[MrFlaneur]

I see he's been suspended.

I know hes been venting quite vigorously lately, but on the other hand I deem him to be one of the smartest contributors around here. I would hate for him to have ditched this place because of the suspension. Surely a lesser reprimand would have been in order. I know he had a lot of probs with the admins and moderators but surely suspension is too severe in this case.

Couldnt the mods have just given him a plausible response to his questions and concerns rather than simply brushing him away as though he was a petty irritant.

To coin a phrase "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Is this whats happened here. Its a sad day if it has.

[Webbster]

The policy on suspensions seems to be applied evenly handed, regardless of how active a member is. Which is really how it should be.

Hopefully Causa mortis returns after the suspension as the majority of causa mortis' posts are interesting.

[Synamon]

This morning Cause Mortis reposted flaming/trolling that had previously been deleted by a moderator where no further action had been taken. As that was the second instance of reposting deleted flaming by Causa Mortis in the same thread within 24 hours, an infraction was issued. Continuing to flame forum members and reposting that flaming to do so is something that will get you an infraction since the deletions clearly did not get your attention.

Causa Mortis then spammed the forum with posts like this: "eat my asshole you vapid cunt" which generated 6 Report threads by more than half a dozen forum members. The spamming of the forum with personal attacks resulted in another infraction being issued and two infractions back to back are an automatic one week suspension.

Thank you to all those who reported the posts, we appreciate the assistance and encourage everyone to report posts that violate the forum rules.

[JustMel]

He wouldn't take a reprimand. His continuing complaints seemed to be more of a "conspiracy theory" ideal that the moderators were out to get him or to only moderate certain people who complain.

Some of the members were becoming a little sick of his whining.

I can understand the need for the suspension. Sometimes you have to take it on the chin to see things from the others' perspective.

[MrFlaneur]

Well, if that's the case I hope it gives him sometime to cool off.
His insights are first rate in my opinion. It would be be sad to lose that calibre.
The CausaMortis fan club starts here.

[rahdam]

Originally Posted by Synamon

This morning Cause Mortis reposted flaming/trolling that had previously been deleted by a moderator where no further action had been taken. As that was the second instance of reposting deleted flaming by Causa Mortis in the same thread within 24 hours, an infraction was issued. Continuing to flame forum members and reposting that flaming to do so is something that will get you an infraction since the deletions clearly did not get your attention. Causa Mortis then spammed the forum with posts like this: "eat my asshole you vapid cunt" which generated 6 Report threads by more than half a dozen forum members. The spamming of the forum with personal attacks resulted in another infraction being issued and two infractions back to back are an automatic one week suspension. Thank you to all those who reported the posts, we appreciate the assistance and encourage everyone to report posts that violate the forum rules.

Alright Syn, I give up?

How do 6 report threads get generated from more than half a dozen (ie, 6) members? It seems to me that 6 report threads would require exactly half a dozen members, or LESS if one member reports the same post multiple times.

[SelfMadeBum]

Seems to me that more than one person could report the same post as well.

Or, you could clear up what you mean by "Report thread" because I figured you meant posts.

[rahdam]

but if x people report a post, would that not generate x report threads?
Or did cause post imflammatory material 6 times?

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I don't believe for a second that he would be able to post 6 inflammatory posts before 1 moderator would see it

[stasis]

	Originally Posted by rahdam
	Alright Syn, I give up? How do 6 report threads get generated from more than half a dozen (ie, 6) members? It seems to me that 6 report threads would require exactly half a dozen members, or LESS if one member reports the same post multiple times.

Multiple reports for the same post go into the same report thread. If 200 users report the same post, the result is one report thread, eight pages long.

[rahdam]

ahh, it all makes sense now!
*Jots down more notes about inner workings of forum*

[Synamon]

	Originally Posted by rahdam
	Alright Syn, I give up? How do 6 report threads get generated from more than half a dozen (ie, 6) members? It seems to me that 6 report threads would require exactly half a dozen members, or LESS if one member reports the same post multiple times.

The post I quoted was reported by 4 different forum members.

	Originally Posted by SelfMadeBum
	Seems to me that more than one person could report the same post as well. Or, you could clear up what you mean by "Report thread" because I figured you meant posts.

When you hit the Report button at the bottom of a post, it generates a Report thread for the moderators. Multiple reports on the same post go into the same Report thread.

	Originally Posted by rahdam
	I don't believe for a second that he would be able to post 6 inflammatory posts before 1 moderator would see it

Yes, there were 6 inflammatory posts, hence my choice of the phrase "spammed the forum". Moderators did see the posts and the Report threads, but it takes a few minutes to assess the situation and then issue an infraction in order to stop the spamming.

[rain]

AW! That's too bad. I thought Causa Mortis' particular methodology of schoolyard bullying rather altogether fascinating and an unusual way of attempting to woo someone!

[Aurelia]

	Originally Posted by rain
	AW! That's too bad. I thought Causa Mortis' particular methodology of schoolyard bullying rather altogether fascinating and an unusual way of attempting to woo someone!

I'm glad you have a sense of humor about it Rain lol.

Seriously though...
There are one too many posts from Causa Mortis with unnecessary hostility using vulgar language. Maybe he will come back a bit more reformed... *Here's hoping*

[Blse]

True, CM did make some very good contributions to the forum. Unorthodox, sure. Controversial, sure. Well, except for the politics sub-forum where he represented the more or less consensus opinion among economists. In any case, his post were usually well-thought out, susbstantive and often useful. That being said, the behavior described above does clearly cross the line and I was a little suprised by the calling out of names in the most recent thread (although it's good that none of the people mention seem to have taken offense... they're NTs afterall ). Oh well... let's see if he'll return with the same useful, blunt, and thought-out responses.

[MrFlaneur]

	Originally Posted by rain
	AW! That's too bad. I thought Causa Mortis' particular methodology of schoolyard bullying rather altogether fascinating and an unusual way of attempting to woo someone!

Ha! Yeah im sorry rain, seeing that i sort of set that train in motion. Oh well!

[admittedheretic]

	Originally Posted by rain
	AW! That's too bad. I thought Causa Mortis' particular methodology of schoolyard bullying rather altogether fascinating and an unusual way of attempting to woo someone!

That is directly in line with what a narcissist would see which is what he found fascinating.

[Anhedonic Lake]

OooH, I hope he comes back now. All the hype and drama is turning me into a Causa Mortisphile.(Time to read his old threads and find out what the fuss is all about. Oh, I remember now,he used to have a gorrilla as his avatar.)

[azelismia]

	Originally Posted by admittedheretic
	That is directly in line with what a narcissist would see which is what he found fascinating.

Why, she's being realistic. He admitted that the thread was created because she turned him down and he was bullying her. Do you think that thread was not a form of Harassment?

I can't comment on if she is or is not a narcissist, but this was not an example of it.

[admittedheretic]

	Originally Posted by azelismia
	Why, she's being realistic. He admitted that the thread was created because she turned him down and he was bullying her. Do you think that thread was not a form of Harassment? I can't comment on if she is or is not a narcissist, but this was not an example of it.

Could you please show me where he explicitly said that? I would find it hard to believe if he felt that way that he would reveal it. He sure admitted she is an example of what would probably have been best described as his target. Without a doubt it borderlines on harassment, but what he really was upset with are the ideals and he made good cases for them. The thread might have been created in spur of such an event, but his expressions where not spontaneously solely caused by the event.

Honestly I didn't even remotely read everything what was said so maybe I missed some things. I can't confirm or even care if she has narcissist personality disorder either, I'm just saying what was said was in line with the behavior I've observed. . Narcissist even when given negative attention somehow perceive it positively to feed their ego. That is all I was saying.

[Anhedonic Lake]

	Originally Posted by admittedheretic
	Narcissist even when given negative attention somehow perceive it positively to feed their ego. That is all I was saying.

I always thought it was the histrionics who thrive on any form of attention,while the narcissist craves only positive attention,and reacts to negative attention with either narcissistic rage or narcissistic decompensation.

[azelismia]

Originally Posted by admittedheretic

Could you please show me where he explicitly said that? I would find it hard to believe if he felt that way that he would reveal it. He sure admitted she is an example of what would probably have been best described as his target. Without a doubt it borderlines on harassment, but what he really was upset with are the ideals and he made good cases for them. The thread might have been created in spur of such an event, but his expressions where not spontaneously solely caused by the event. Honestly I didn't even remotely read everything what was said so maybe I missed some things. I can't confirm or even care if she has narcissist personality disorder either, I'm just saying what was said was in line with the behavior I've observed. . Narcissist even when given negative attention somehow perceive it positively to feed their ego. That is all I was saying.

it was edited out as being off-topic.

[EL Gato]

I thought some of his observations were very insightful and incisive and I thoroughly enjoyed how he dared to face the music. However, he also has the unfortunate tendency of getting his ego involved and acting on his emotions, resulting in unproductive exchanges. That makes his posts as narcissistic as the narcissism he perceived. It does not matter one bit whether or not you accept you are a narcissist, as he did. If you still act upon your tendencies, your actions have the same consequences as those who can't see their own narcissism, maybe worst. It reminds me of many revolutionaries with a worthy cause, that end up hurting the cause because they cannot separate themselves from it.

[JohnDoe]

All I can say is it is a damn shame he wasn't banned. All he ever does is flame and rant in my general directions when I try to make constructive posts

[Blse]

	Originally Posted by azelismia
	Why, she's being realistic. He admitted that the thread was created because she turned him down and he was bullying her.

I think he was being sarcastic.

[Aurelia]

	Originally Posted by admittedheretic
	Narcissist even when given negative attention somehow perceive it positively to feed their ego. That is all I was saying.

No, that's not true at all.

( Show Spoiler )

Narcissists are (a) extremely sensitive to personal criticism and (b) extremely critical of other people. They think that they must be seen as perfect or superior or infallible, next to god-like (if not actually divine, then sitting on the right hand of God) -- or else they are worthless. There's no middle ground of ordinary normal humanity for narcissists. They can't tolerate the least disagreement.

http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/traits.html#critic

( Show Spoiler )

Narcissistic injury (or wound) is any threat (real or imagined) to the narcissist's grandiose and fantastic self-perception (False Self) as perfect, omnipotent, omniscient, and entitled to special treatment and recognition, regardless of his actual accomplishments (or lack thereof).

The narcissist perceives every disagreement – let alone criticism – as nothing short of a threat. He reacts defensively. He becomes indignant, aggressive and cold. He detaches emotionally for fear of yet another (narcissistic) injury. He devalues the person who made the disparaging remark.

http://samvak.tripod.com/faq73.html

	Originally Posted by Anhedonic Lake
	I always thought it was the histrionics who thrive on any form of attention,while the narcissist craves only positive attention,and reacts to negative attention with either narcissistic rage or narcissistic decompensation.

Yes.

Side note:
If CM wants to attack the subject of female sexual narcissism, he can do it without personally attacking another member of the forum. Although he is very intelligent, an active member and has posted thoughtful comments, that does not mean his behavior should go unchecked.