[SeaCzar]

I cut the following from a link on another thread:

loner, more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family, not very altruistic, not very complimentary, would rather be friendless than jobless, observer, values solitude, perfectionist, detached, private, not much fun, hidden, skeptical, does not tend to like most people, socially uncomfortable, not physically affectionate, unhappy, does not talk about feelings, hard to impress, analytical, likes esoteric things, tends to be pessimistic, not spontaneous, prone to discontentment, guarded, does not think they are weird but others do, responsible, can be insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others, orderly, clean, organized, familiar with darkside, tends not to value organized religion, suspicious of others, can be lonely, rarely shows anger, punctual, finisher, prepared

My question: Which of the above (let's limit this to 5 each) would you identify with most/least? I'll start.

Most: (in no particular order) not very complimentary, values solitude, analytical, does not tend to like most people, guarded.

Least: (again, in no particular order) unhappy, prone to discontentment, hidden, can be lonely, tends to be pessimistic.

Hmm. Much more difficult to pick the least.

[dandylion]

Most:
Does not talk about feelings
Hard to impress
Does not think they are weird but others do
Observer
Not physically affectionate

Least:
Not spontaneous
Tends to be pessimistic
Can be lonely
Not much fun
Finisher

[AgentofGaming]

Most:
socially uncomfortable
loner
rarely shows anger
detached
observer

Least:
guarded (doubt anyone has anything to do to me)
does not think they are weird but others do (everyone hints this to me, so I guess it finally affected me)
hard to impress (depends on what)
would rather be friendless than jobless (Somehow I'm perfectly fine unemployed)
prone to discontentment (because some things aren't meeting goals)

[eMachine]

Most
Detached
Socially uncomfortable
Not physically affectionate
Analytical
Likes esoteric things

Least
Orderly
Organized
Unhappy
Tends to be pessimistic
Finisher

[Universe]

Most:
does not tend to like most people
analyitical
familiar with the darkside
does not talk about feelings
private

Least:
not much fun (I make people laugh all the time, that make me fun right?)
does not think they are weird but others do(I'm perfectly aware of my strangeness)
socially uncomfortable(despite my strangeness lots of people randomly talk to me anyway)
would rather be friendless than jobless (atm I don't need to have a job)
finisher

argg picking 5 that didn't apply to me was hard.

[Lagawrd]

Most:
observer
rarely shows anger
socially uncomfortable
prepared
perfectionist

Least:
not spontaneous

[INTJoe]

I can't get it down to 5 each....

I've labeled 19 in the "Most" category, and 17 in the "Least", while leaving altruistic, esoteric, and discontentment unranked, as I'm not familiar enough with what they mean.

From this list I wittled it down to 11 Mosts, and 6 Leasts.

Most (no particular order):

Values intellectual pursuits over relationships
Observer
Detached
Private
Skeptical
Doesn't like most people
Doesn't talk about feelings
Hard to impress
Analytical
Guarded
Responsible

Least (no particular order):

Would rather be friendless than jobless. (I'd rather have friends and no job, so long as I've got some hobby or studying to keep me focused).
Values solitude (I like some alone time, and few friends...not SOLITUDE).
Unhappy. (Why do people think we're unhappy!?!??!?!?!?!!)
Orderly/Clean/Organized (I lumped these all together, I'm none of them)
Familiar w/ Darkside (What?......What the hell is this?)
Punctual (lol...not me at ALL. But I get pissed when others are late.)

[Haphazard]

Interesting.

Most:
can be insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others
responsible
detached
hard to impress
socially uncomfortable

Least:
rarely shows anger
finisher
unhappy
not very altruistic
clean

I may not be clean but I am organized. Isn't being able to find things according to the layers of sediment things accumulate in a form of organization?

I'm ambivalent about "does not tend to like most people" because in I do love everybody in theory but in practice I've found that no, I don't tend to like most people.

[asongforgrace]

this was quite difficult to narrow down at all

most
prone to discontentment
not very complimentary
observer
values solitude
perfectionist
detached
private
does not tend to like most people
socially uncomfortable
not physically affectionate
analytical
not spontaneous
organized
tends not to value organized religion
can be lonely
rarely shows anger
prepared

least
more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family (love intellectual pursuits but family is most important)
not very altruistic
would rather be friendless than jobless (perhaps due to having few close friends, I/we value them more highly than someone who has many)
guarded
does not think they are weird but others do (I acknowledge different-ness ..but maintain it is everyone else is ‘weird’. Or at least, I’m hoping so..)

[eMachine]

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	would rather be friendless than jobless (perhaps due to having few close friends, I/we value them more highly than someone who has many)

That could be true, I only have a couple close friends left from my ever-so-slightly more social phase (adolescence) and I can't remember what we used to have in common that made us such good friends in the first place. Never the less, it's good to know they're around to keep me from being a complete hermit.

...Or it could also be that some INTJ's don't mind being unemployed and having all the time in the world for research, study, hobbies, or just to think. It seems like we're always working on something, whether it's a real job or not. I don't think an INTJ is one to just sit around watching daytime television.

(Both are true for me.)

Haphazard

	I may not be clean but I am organized. Isn't being able to find things according to the layers of sediment things accumulate in a form of organization?

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I am organized too then. Everyone else may think my apartment is in disorder, but I usually know just where I put something.

[Vivid]

Yes: more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family, values solitude, observer, socially uncomfortable, not spontaneous

Untrue: does not tend to like most people, can be insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others, clean, rarely shows anger

[Xeraii]

Choosing 5 for least is hard.
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Most

• Not very complimentary
• Hard to impress
• Perfectionist
• Observer
• Analytical

Least

• Not very altruistic
• Not much fun
• Not spontaneous
• Would rather be friendless than jobless
• Suspicious of others

[vaguely dissatisfied]

My god (just an expression)!!!! Everything fits absolutely perfectly except for the anger part.

[PRBori]

Is very hard to only pick 5, so here is my list

Most:

detached
Private
hard to impress
analytical
does not think they are weird but others do
responsible
can be lonely
rarely shows anger
prepared
skeptical

Least:

does not talk about feelings
Tend to be pessimistic
more interested in intellectual pursuits
would rather be friendless than jobless
guarded
insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others

I think I need to explain this one a little further: more interested in intellectual pursuits

I'm extremely interested in intellectual pursuits, but will not put it above my immediate family. Although, it is essential for me in order to keep the family going, so I'll say 50/50 on it.

[Zilal]

Cool thread.

I'm all of those things to some degree... yeah, there are big parts of me that rely more on my work than on my friendships for my daily fulfillment... but I'm not really that extreme.

Identify with most:
Skeptical
Guarded
Does not think they are weird but others do
Responsible
Prepared

Identify with least:
Not much fun
Does not tend to like most people
Not physically affectionate
Can be insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others
Orderly

[Jgib5328]

Most:
Perfectionist
Does not tend to like most people
Hard to impress
Analytical
Can be insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others
Familiar with the Dark Side

Least:
Not much fun
Socially uncomfortable
Unhappy
Does not think they are weird but others do
Not spontaneous
Prone to discontentment

I chose to do 6..

[vkut79]

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	Unhappy. (Why do people think we're unhappy!?!??!?!?!?!!)

This bugs me too, I'm pretty sure we're happy and unhappy about as often as other personality types, on average. Other people probably think we're unhappy because when they imagine themselves in our shoes, they recognize that they would be unhappy doing the things we do. I could say the same about them. Its also the case that the popular notion of happiness applies more to EF type personalities, and so those people imagine that we are unhappy because we don't tend to experience that type of happiness. Our kind of happiness is usually on a more deeper level, and is difficult to see from the outside.

[Santana28]

hmmmm....

Most: (in no particular order) values solitude, does not tend to like most people, socially uncomfortable, would rather be friendless than jobless, can be insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others

Least: (again, in no particular order) not very altruistic, tends to be pessimistic, organized, punctual, not physically affectionate

[ArchonAlarion]

Most:
more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family
not very altruistic
detached
skeptical
not physically affectionate
analytical
can be insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others
clean
tends not to value organized religion
orderly
familiar with darkside

Least:
not much fun
would rather be friendless than jobless
not spontaneous
does not think they are weird but others do
finisher

[SeaCzar]

Originally Posted by vkut79 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

This bugs me too, I'm pretty sure we're happy and unhappy about as often as other personality types, on average. Other people probably think we're unhappy because when they imagine themselves in our shoes, they recognize that they would be unhappy doing the things we do. I could say the same about them. Its also the case that the popular notion of happiness applies more to EF type personalities, and so those people imagine that we are unhappy because we don't tend to experience that type of happiness. Our kind of happiness is usually on a more deeper level, and is difficult to see from the outside.

I completely agree with this. Just because I am not laughing out loud all the time and not "touchy-feely" (the latter makes my skin crawl), I consider myself very happy and content with my life.

[AliciaS2R]

Most, in no particular order

Observer
Hard to impress (most of us put our pants on the same way, one leg at a time
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)
Tends not to value organized religion (Some feel a need to belong, I do not)
Rarely shows anger
Does not talk about feelings


Least, in no particular order

Not much fun (I have a sarcastic and warped sense of humor, if you can't laugh at yourself... blah blah blah)
Orderly (I am a terrible pack rat)
Does not tend to like most people (I like most until they give me reason not to)
Can be lonely
Does not think they are weird but others do (I know I am a bit different, that's part of my charm
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)

[Tokey41]

Most: perfectionist, analytical, can be lonely, skeptical, more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family

Least: not very altruistic, unhappy, tends to be pessimistic, does not tend to like most people, would rather be friendless than jobless

[DeadSpace]

Most: not very complimentary, observer, analytical, does not think they are weird but others do, familiar with darkside, tends not to value organized religion.

Not very complimentary is what bugs me the most, have to remind myself to compliment people when they do something well.

Least: not very altruistic, not much fun, not physically affectionate, tends to be pessimistic, suspicious of others.

[thod]

	Typical Beliefs I feel like an alien in a frightening environment. Since the world is dangerous, you have to watch out for yourself at all times. There are reasons for everything. Things don't happen by chance. Sometimes my inner feelings are an indication of what is going to happen. Relationships are threatening. I am defective.

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[ginandsour]

Most:

would rather be friendless than jobless
observer
values solitude
detached/private
hard to impress

Least:

does not think they are weird but others do
can be insensitive or ambivalent to the misfortunes of others
orderly
rarely shows anger
finisher