[Free2Think]

I've been told at times that I was a brat and that I had to have things my way. I guess this is something people notice from the outside looking in. Honestly yea, I prefer to have things a certain way if I can control them especially if they're people who let me somewhat control them, even though I do my BEST not to take advantage of a kind heart. Anyway are INTJs known for being brats? And is this something you've noticed from another INTJ?

[blatant]

I'm pretty chill. People can think and do what they want and I can just not care (unless it's on the internets, then it is ON!). You know where people end up if they try to control everything?

The hospital. Hehe.

[Free2Think]

Thats what Im sayin. I feel Im pretty laid back myself. But I dont knw

[Sqdn]

People only do things differently to how I would because theyre stupid.

I dont particularly care if they do things teh stupid way. That is thier problem not mine. I sincerely hope they learn from the mistake they made and come to understand my way is superior.

Im an INTJ *shrug*


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"What was that? oh your going to try it that way? How exciting, let me know how you get on with that."

[sinuous]

I wasn't a brat as a child, though the term smartass was frequently used.
I consider myself to be fairly laid-back now.

[Samoan Corleone]

Yes, I get told that I'm an "all or nothing" guy and that I can't compromise. When going out with friends affected my grades a few years ago, instead of simply cutting down, I just stopped going out altogether, much to their anger. Strong J (not a drug pun).

[Theaetetus]

I get that once in a while. I also get called stubborn on occasion. So, when the rare and trembling person comes up to me with a suggestion that they've spent all day working up the confidence for, and I say "Hey, good idea, it looks like it'll work. I'll put it into use now." it looks as if the guy's soiled himself.

I think it's a problem of people usually getting their imperfect ideas shot down, and they get used to it so that they don't even try. Little does a person know that an INTJ will assimilate all quality theories.

[dead]

I don't care what others do for themselves. Fine by me if they're making poor choices. But if I'm somehow invested in something with them and the results will impact my life, I'm an absolute control freak and won't compromise any of my personal standards and quirks. I make all the decisions. I consider it a virtue.
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[Wock]

	Originally Posted by Samoan Corleone To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Yes, I get told that I'm an "all or nothing" guy and that I can't compromise. When going out with friends affected my grades a few years ago, instead of simply cutting down, I just stopped going out altogether, much to their anger. Strong J (not a drug pun).

For sure, I get told this all the time. It's only when something directly affects me though, I could care less about controlling other people and their way of doing things. "Stubborn" is how it's often put, if I decide I want to try something in a particular way or that the best way of doing something seems to be *this* then I'll stick with it. Usually because I've thought it through fully, something the majority of other people don't seem to do too often - not to come off as a pompous asshole or anything.
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[cannotseethe]

INTJs are known for not seeing the irony in creating a thread titled "My Way or the Highway" with a username like Free2Think.

And for being sarcastic.

What I mean is, at least in my experience INTJs have a tendency to demand freedoms for themselves that they are less than willing to extend to others (because they're "dumb" or Ss or common or ...)

[vash]

I get called selfish a lot. Usually this is when I won't do something that someone else wants me to do. Just the other day a relative screamed at me, "It's always about you, never anybody but you." Of course this was after I had helped her out financially just a few weeks earlier. Still, I thought she was crossing a boundary and I said no, so she freaked out. Guess who just wore out her welcome?

In most conflict situations, I don't look at my behavior as "my way or the highway" (sounds like trying to control the other person). I know I am not happy with compromise, so I tend to think both parties would be happier elsewhere.

[t3hrubikscube]

I really hate when things don't go my way, but I think that's mostly because I don't like when things don't go according to plan. I don't like when things mess up or have to be changed for whatever reason. I don't think it's necessarily because I'm a 'brat' or anything. I just have certain expectations, ideas, plans, structures, etc., and I get really uncomfortable and upset when they are ruined or have to be changed.

[Blse]

Te tends to make people tenacious and determined. That can translate into exhibiting "my way or the highway" behavior. INTJs and ENTJs are often described as exhibiting this kind of behavior (isn't the ENTJ catchphrase "I'm sorry but you have to die?"). It's an exaggeration if you ask me, but those of us with a strong Te (be it INTJ or ENTJ) may be prone to being perceived as stubborn and overly determined.

[Hatsumomo1]

Eh, any J can be controlling I guess.

But yeah I've been told I'm overbearing at times.

[Antares]

I prefer not to call us "brats", but hey, if that's the term for a determined, single minded and independent thinker, then so be it :D My mother doesn't know about my "brat" doings. When I was young, they'd make me do all sorts of things I didn't want to do, like make me practice piano. Or stop surfing the net. I figured that I couldn't reason with them, so I lied. If I get caught lying and punished, I'd get smart, until a time comes when they just don't catch me anymore. My dad bought a software (Cyberpatrol, namely) that monitors what site I go to and cut me off when time is up, so over time, I figured out his password (as he uses variations of the same password for every software he tried, it wasn't even hard), and he still hasn't caught on to this day (he doesn't try to restrict me anymore). I even learned a lot about computers as I tried to break the software.

As a child, I was resourceful, clever and incorrigible. If I want to do something, I will do it, and no one can really stop me. Somewhere along the line, I fell in love with the piano, and it became apparent that I would only truly be productive on that bench if I was there on my own free will. If I don't want to do something, no one can make me do it. I had to lie because ultimately, it's futile trying to reason with parents. I have some years left under their legal power over me yet, but I have started demanding to have things my way, and that has led to conflict at times. I suspect not many people notice that about me, and I don't know any confirmed INTJs, so I can't tell you if I notice that about other INTJs.

[urglefloggah]

As dead said, I do not care about the efficiency of another's actions, unless they relate to me. The minute I believe that I am going to be negatively affected by the inefficiency of another's approach, I will attempt to drive the activity or action in whatever way seems most effective. But if I feel that another person is more effective than me, I hesitate to involve myself. I only care if I have strong reason to believe my involvement will benefit my situation. If my skill set is the greatest, and the incident will affect me, I go totalitarian.

[Takeru]

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I prefer not to call us "brats", but hey, if that's the term for a determined, single minded and independent thinker, then so be it :D My mother doesn't know about my "brat" doings. When I was young, they'd make me do all sorts of things I didn't want to do, like make me practice piano. Or stop surfing the net. I figured that I couldn't reason with them, so I lied. If I get caught lying and punished, I'd get smart, until a time comes when they just don't catch me anymore. My dad bought a software (Cyberpatrol, namely) that monitors what site I go to and cut me off when time is up, so over time, I figured out his password (as he uses variations of the same password for every software he tried, it wasn't even hard), and he still hasn't caught on to this day (he doesn't try to restrict me anymore). I even learned a lot about computers as I tried to break the software. As a child, I was resourceful, clever and incorrigible. If I want to do something, I will do it, and no one can really stop me. Somewhere along the line, I fell in love with the piano, and it became apparent that I would only truly be productive on that bench if I was there on my own free will. If I don't want to do something, no one can make me do it. I had to lie because ultimately, it's futile trying to reason with parents. I have some years left under their legal power over me yet, but I have started demanding to have things my way, and that has led to conflict at times. I suspect not many people notice that about me, and I don't know any confirmed INTJs, so I can't tell you if I notice that about other INTJs.

I think it is called being stubborn
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(not to be taken negatively please.) Though it was clever though. I tend to be a good boy, but I can drive my people crazy when I become stubborn/persistent about something.

When I was little I often did take/did things in secret.

[liquidzilla]

I get called stubborn quite alot because I wont back down on my point until someone can prove it wrong (happens alot in debates and very few people have ever had the evidence to prove my idea wrong). I haven't been called a brat, but I do advise people from the sidelines in hope of them changing what they do to help themselves and others (i.e. advising my friend to revise more for our exams a while back, while advising another to cut down so she didn't stress out. It made them both feel better to take the advice and made the environment more relaxed).
I would say INTJs in general seem like a stubborn type (know it alls at times too I guess). I wouldn't say INTJs were brats, that's the wrong word.

[Pachystima]

I think that the lack of being willing to compromise is not so much an INTJ thing as it is a human thing. Being stubborn or inflexible is certainly not exclusive to INTJ's. Extreme "my way or the highway" behavior just signals immaturity.