[Universe]

It's an excellent series, especially for NT's.
For those of you who haven't heard of this series you must look it up or watch at least the first episode
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Do any of you other INTJ's feel strongly connected with Light?

I'm not as ruthless as he is, maybe not quite as smart either, but we still share the same ideals and if I found a Death Note my actions would be very similar to Light's but I wouldn't hesitate to test the book on a horrible person who I hate with good reason.
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[AgentofGaming]

	Originally Posted by Universe To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do any of you other INTJ's feel strongly connected with Light?

From what I've seen I think most [people here] like L more.

It's quite interesting in fact, I wouldn't mind watching it if it were dubbed. (but not while the school semester is in)

So far I watched up to where that guy pretends to be drunk and fakes his death.

[Haphazard]

I didn't feel strongly connected with Light's motives, mainly because from personal experience systems based on fear with harsh, draconian punishments for transgressions don't work. Just from news reports, that have a tendency to sensationalize anyway, it's difficult to grasp the full extent of the story behind a crime and therefore a person shouldn't be judged on solely what is said about them on the news. On morality I sympathize with L, though for other reasons I still sympathize with Light. Even though he has this power to kill anybody with just a name, he's still the little guy and he still struggles his damndest.

That said, I thought the series declined after the 7th manga volume. Light vs. L was very exciting, but after that volume with the successors it seemed like a lot of the passion that fueled the original feud was gone, and everyone had lost sight of their motives. This may have been the point, but if that was the point I would have rather them made short work of it rather than stretch it through 5 more volumes. Augh.

[Universe]

	Originally Posted by AgentofGaming To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	From what I've seen I think most of like L more. It's quite interesting in fact, I wouldn't mind watching it if it were dubbed. (but not while the school semester is in) So far I watched up to where that guy pretends to be drunk and fakes his death.

I see, I have a few things in common with L.

I stay up too late all year, so I usually watch it Saturdays.

Originally Posted by Haphazard To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I didn't feel strongly connected with Light's motives, mainly because from personal experience systems based on fear with harsh, draconian punishments for transgressions don't work. Just from news reports, that have a tendency to sensationalize anyway, it's difficult to grasp the full extent of the story behind a crime and therefore a person shouldn't be judged on solely what is said about them on the news. On morality I sympathize with L, though for other reasons I still sympathize with Light. Even though he has this power to kill anybody with just a name, he's still the little guy and he still struggles his damndest. That said, I thought the series declined after the 7th manga volume. Light vs. L was very exciting, but after that volume with the successors it seemed like a lot of the passion that fueled the original feud was gone, and everyone had lost sight of their motives. This may have been the point, but if that was the point I would have rather them made short work of it rather than stretch it through 5 more volumes. Augh.

I don't see why L was so discusted with Kira's killings after seeing what he was willing to go through to catch Kira. It kind of made me wonder if he hated Kira for being difficult to catch more than for killing "innocent people".

Light also goes through a lot of change in volume 5.

[Haphazard]

	Originally Posted by Universe To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I don't see why L was so discusted with Kira's killings after seeing what he was willing to go through to catch Kira. It kind of made me wonder if he hated Kira for being difficult to catch more than for killing "innocent people". Light also goes through a lot of change in volume 5.

Yes, there's that, but then there's also the rationale that L had to have because so many people were being killed by Kira every day. Throughout the entire story there's the whole rationale that the ends justify the means. If it means a utopia, then so what if a few innocent people are killed along with the criminals? So what if we go against the Geneva Conventions to catch this mass murderer?

The entire story seemed to be less about building a utopia and killing criminals but rather a duel to the death between L and Light. Light soon jumped off the slippery slope by killing people that had blatantly not done anything criminal but could have caught him, and L exhausting the patience and resources of those around him and doing extremely sketchy things to catch Kira. So, a secondary motivation of L would have been that he's frustrated that Kira is so difficult to catch, but wasn't a secondary motivation of Light that he wanted to be God of a new world order?

Both of them are questionable, but that's a part of what makes it so interesting. Aside from these things going on a grand scale, there's also intimacy in the conflict, and that's part of what made the first half of Death Note so great.

[Gabrielle]

I remember trying to kill L before Light while watching EVERY SINGLE DAMN EPISODE. Personally I thought Light was a little slow - I mean, come on, be a little cleverer will ya?

I would also like to have a Death Note. Too bad Ryuk isn't around to give me one.

[DeadSpace]

Identified most with L, Light was quite simply, a user, used Misa, and anyone else he could to achieve his ends. Can't identify with someone like that. or really even cheer for them

[Universe]

Originally Posted by Haphazard To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Yes, there's that, but then there's also the rationale that L had to have because so many people were being killed by Kira every day. Throughout the entire story there's the whole rationale that the ends justify the means. If it means a utopia, then so what if a few innocent people are killed along with the criminals? So what if we go against the Geneva Conventions to catch this mass murderer? The entire story seemed to be less about building a utopia and killing criminals but rather a duel to the death between L and Light. Light soon jumped off the slippery slope by killing people that had blatantly not done anything criminal but could have caught him, and L exhausting the patience and resources of those around him and doing extremely sketchy things to catch Kira. So, a secondary motivation of L would have been that he's frustrated that Kira is so difficult to catch, but wasn't a secondary motivation of Light that he wanted to be God of a new world order? Both of them are questionable, but that's a part of what makes it so interesting. Aside from these things going on a grand scale, there's also intimacy in the conflict, and that's part of what made the first half of Death Note so great.

Well since Light felt he had to destroy all who stood in his way it to some degree sidetracted him. In the ending though he does mention that since Kira has been around violent criminals had practically died out, but the world still rots.

Perhaps Kira was inspired to become god as well, but I doubt he would ever announce that he was Kira the new god. So, I think that motivation is less personal and intense than L's. But yes these hidden motives did add to the story I suppose.

	Originally Posted by hurricanereno20 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I remember trying to kill L before Light while watching EVERY SINGLE DAMN EPISODE. Personally I thought Light was a little slow - I mean, come on, be a little cleverer will ya? I would also like to have a Death Note. Too bad Ryuk isn't around to give me one.

I really liked episode 25, the one where L died. Not just because he died but because of the over all feel of the episode. Ryuzaki's just so sad and weak, and we learn how he admires but envies Light.

Maybe if we put out fresh juicy apples Ryuk will find us.

	Originally Posted by DeadSpace To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Identified most with L, Light was quite simply, a user, used Misa, and anyone else he could to achieve his ends. Can't identify with someone like that. or really even cheer for them

The way he used people was what made me feel different from him. He didn't have any feelings of happiness or sadness, except for briefly in the end which is the other thing that separtates us.

[lordrrr]

I totally connected with Light from the beginning, even before I found out I was an INTJ. He really lives the life, strategizing and slowly building a utopia for the greater good.

[Lei Yang]

Damn, now you got me hooked. I really should be doing chemistry, but I'm watching episode 3 now...

[lordrrr]

I love the manga but I havn't watched a single episode of the anime lol.

I'm only up to number 8 on the manga too :/


I need to get crackin'

[Vortex]

Great topic for a great anime \o/

I haven't finished it yet (got to the imprison Light forever part and lost interest, haven't had time to get back into now :\ ), but it was really good. I had a strong love/hate relationship with Light: he was a brilliant thinker and made some excellent "moves". However, his narcissism as Kira and his user personality are a great affront to me.

L on the other hand was never quite as clever as Light IMHO, but had a seriously ridiculous amount of resources to compensate (unrealistically large amount of resources... unrealistic situations bother me..).

Thanks for reminding me to finish this series... But first I've got to finish ergo proxy.

[Universe]

I'm glad you guys are enjoying Death Note.

I just bought the third english DVD today.

[vkut79]

Yeah this is cool! Its great to see an INTJ as a main character. I definitely do see myself being in common with Light in ways.





vkut79 added to this post, 9 minutes and 45 seconds later...

Although he's very naive....





vkut79 added to this post, 4 minutes and 18 seconds later...

How much of an INTJ is Light?

[Haphazard]

	Originally Posted by vkut79 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Yeah this is cool! Its great to see an INTJ as a main character. I definitely do see myself being in common with Light in ways. vkut79 added to this post, 9 minutes and 45 seconds later... Although he's very naive.... vkut79 added to this post, 4 minutes and 18 seconds later... How much of an INTJ is Light?

What episode are you watching? At the beginning, he's very naive, but he learns. He definitely learns...

[vkut79]

I'm at episode 5. He is so cruel and ruthless by then, it seems. He is just trying to get power, not achieve justice.

[Universe]

	Originally Posted by vkut79 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	How much of an INTJ is Light?

moderately Introverted
highly iNtuitive
extremely Thinking
extremely Judging

He has to be fairly image conscious though, so the police don't catch him, and as far as I know that's not usually an "intj" trait.

[vkut79]

How many episodes have you seen?

[Universe]

37, all of them.
and I read the last book so I could know the other ending.

[cielo market]

Hmn... I found I was cheering for both L and Light while watching the show. But I have to admit, I was a bit disheartened that Light ultimately lost in such an embarrassing way.

	Originally Posted by Universe To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	37, all of them. and I read the last book so I could know the other ending.

Have you seen the Live Action movies, as well? It was quite different than the original story. If I had to pick, I'd say the manga was the best, followed by the anime, then the movies.

On a side note, I love how nobody's worried about spoilers here *cough*LAWLIET*cough*
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[Universe]

The manga had the best storyline, it was the most detailed and it was the original, I love the anime too though since you get voices/music, and well I couldn't sit through the movies, because they're terrible in my opinion.

[paradanmellow]

so who can tell me what personality does L have?

[Universe]

L's definitely an intp.

[paradanmellow]

	Originally Posted by Universe To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	L's definitely an intp.

yaaaaaay!!!! I knew it! I am such a big fan. sweets too, 40% more efficiency if fetal position, barefoot, analytical, whiteness, high goals, mellowness, obstinate (my E is actually 53%)
guess that's why I was so disappointed when L died, and I refused to watch the end. it dragged in inertia if you ask me. M,N suck. Light went out of control... the story became dull and meaningless without L. it was the personal conflict between L and Light which made the story worth every second of it. they really kept me on the verge lol good job L!
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[Lei Yang]

I just thought of something...
If anyone on this board is Light, I am so vulnerable... I am the only one using my real name, AND I posted my pics on the private section part...