Typing the Ninja Turtles

**blue tie** · 02-26-2008, 08:47 AM

I've been having trouble nailing down the MBTI types of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Since there are four of them, I figured it would be one of each, but I keep getting stuff on Raphael.

Leo - SJ. He respects tradition and Master Splinter and all that jazz.
Mikey - ESFP. Action. Pizza. Funny. Duhh...
Donatello - I used to jump straight to NT. He's at least a T.
Raph - I have no idea...

I've Googled for other people's opinions. One guy put Raph as INTJ which would explain his hot-headedness. Then Donnie was like an STJ, which made Leo an NFJ, which didn't really sound that accurrate to me. Although, in my original model, Raph would have been the NF, which sounds way off. How do you type someone that's permanently on edge?

**Santana28** · 02-26-2008, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by blue tie
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I've been having trouble nailing down the MBTI types of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Since there are four of them, I figured it would be one of each, but I keep getting stuff on Raphael.

Leo - SJ. He respects tradition and Master Splinter and all that jazz.
Mikey - ESFP. Action. Pizza. Funny. Duhh...
Donatello - I used to jump straight to NT. He's at least a T.
Raph - I have no idea...

I've Googled for other people's opinions. One guy put Raph as INTJ which would explain his hot-headedness. Then Donnie was like an STJ, which made Leo an NFJ, which didn't really sound that accurrate to me. Although, in my original model, Raph would have been the NF, which sounds way off. How do you type someone that's permanently on edge?

i think Donny's an INTP... he never finishes anything unless he has to!
Raph? i could never tell whether he was a true introvert or an unhappy extrovert. Definitely SF. I'd say he's an ISFJ or ISFP. You're right - its hard to type someone whose personality is not exactly baseline.

Leonardo was always my favorite. Well...second to Shredder of course
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i always had a weakness for the bad guys. Was Shredder an INTJ or ESFJ?

**Universe** · 02-26-2008, 07:12 PM

Leo seems like an ISTJ and I'd guess Donatello's an ENTP. Mikey seems like an ESFP.

Raph is unstable and crabby, but I still see him as more of a T than an F. He lacks empathy and just seems more guided by thinking than feeling, so I think he's an ISTP.

**narutofanninja** · 02-26-2008, 07:27 PM

I think Leo is more Extroverted. He doesn't depend on other people, but that is the source of his strength. In a way, he feels liable of protecting others.

**Universe** · 02-26-2008, 08:42 PM

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	I think Leo is more Extroverted. He doesn't depend on other people, but that is the source of his strength. In a way, he feels liable of protecting others.

What type of extrovert do you think he is? I can't see him as an ESTJ.

But I think ISTJ's tend to feel liable. When they see a friend get hurt they might feel guilty, like they could have and should have done something to prevent it. Since they have a need to be perfect.

**Uberfuhrer** · 02-27-2008, 03:47 PM

Leonardo: ENFJ
Donatello: INTP
Raphael: ISTJ
Michaelangelo: ESFP

At least in last year's CG TMNT movie.

**pavman** · 02-27-2008, 04:11 PM

Duh, Splinter is the INTJ!
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Of course, I'm basing it on the first movie, and the cartoon series, not the comic books, so it could be waaay off
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**Lucid** · 02-27-2008, 08:05 PM

Holy crap, I was just thinking about this the other day. Take your listening devices out of my teeth you bastards!
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My favorite was always Raphael because of his sarcasm. I was wondering if he might qualify as an INTJ but decided against it. I think he's definitely an S of some kind.

**Santana28** · 02-27-2008, 11:11 PM

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	Holy crap, I was just thinking about this the other day. Take your listening devices out of my teeth you bastards! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My favorite was always Raphael because of his sarcasm. I was wondering if he might qualify as an INTJ but decided against it. I think he's definitely an S of some kind.

shredder! what is the shredder??

side note: i couldnt stand raphael.

**Lucid** · 02-28-2008, 05:34 AM

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	shredder! what is the shredder?? side note: i couldnt stand raphael.

ENTJ? Isn't that the default evil overlord type?

Or maybe an ESTJ?

**Santana28** · 02-28-2008, 10:17 AM

he seems more an ENFJ to me...but he was always pissed off at the turtles so its not like we ever saw him in a normal state
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but that would make sense.

**Lucid** · 02-28-2008, 10:43 AM

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	he seems more an ENFJ to me...but he was always pissed off at the turtles so its not like we ever saw him in a normal state To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. but that would make sense.

Yeah, it's difficult to tell a personality type if someone's always pissed off. Although, maybe he was just pissed off all the time. What type is most likely to be pissed off all the time because a bunch of anthropomorphized reptiles were constantly thwarting your attempts to do evil with an army of easily controlled, yet highly skilled martial artists?
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I see your point about the ENFJ typing. I looked the profile up and found:
"They have tremendous charisma by which many are drawn into their nurturant tutelage and/or grand schemes. Many ENFJs have tremendous power to manipulate others with their phenomenal interpersonal skills and unique salesmanship."
So maybe he's a broken ENFJ.

**Santana28** · 02-28-2008, 03:15 PM

you have to remember that Shredder was not always the most careful planner and tended to do things out of fits of anger... Krang, remember Krang? When it came to actual operational planning, Krang was king. But Shredder was better at organization, motivation, and willpower! I don't see him as much of a functional thinking type so much as a megalomaniacal leader!

**vanidence** · 10-24-2008, 06:25 PM

Woooow...you Guys are awesome! It's great you also labeled "non Real" Chars! I LOVE the TMNT so I am even more happy to see this Thread! >//<
While we are at it...what about annoying April of the earlier Comics, compared to smart, cool April of the 2003 Series? Or Casey? And what about the two Dumbsters Rocksteady and Beebop?

Hm, actually...Raph IS kinda tough to label. He is pretty hot-headed, straight, somehow always "on his own" and also he tends to act before thinking because of his Temperament. So...hm. =/

Oddly...I always really liked them all, but mostly Leo. Then with the new Series in 2003 it kinda changed and Raph / Leo were somehow sharing the Top, followed by Mikey (Fun Guy) and Donnie. Weird. ^^°

**brian1625** · 04-10-2013, 08:45 PM

Leo ISTJ
Ralph ISFJ
Mikey ESFP
Donny ISTP

Look at negative traits of ISFJ for Ralph. And you'll also notice the two Js are at each other throats. This is common when two similar personalty types occupy the same space. I notice on a lot of MBTI websites, they tend to focus on the female type personalities with "F" types. It's not just the "Nurturer type" With Ralph it's a masculine ISFJ "The Defender" (Also fits his weapon choice, a defending weapon)

When Splinter gets kidnapped. Ralph goes on his own to recharge (i) and takes it the hardest. That's what he values most. Helping others, especially those close to him.

Leo is also an introvert. He goes off and meditates.

Makes sense that Ninjas would value alone time and measured results. (Hence the IJ combo like INTJ) Mikey is the exception, he's always been the exception. But he remains an extroverted S. He shadowed his brother Ralph. (Sibling type shadowing as mention in Jung's Psychological types)

Makes sense they would all be "S" types. They're brothers.

**9272** · 04-10-2013, 08:50 PM

Michaelangelo-ESFP for sure
Leo-ESTJ
Don-ENTP???
Raph-ENFP......or INFP.....I guess INFP makes more sense as there would be a Te struggle where he blasts everyone with his thoughts.

Splinter INFJ
Shredder-ENTJ
Krang-INTJ

**brian1625** · 04-10-2013, 09:01 PM

Fe and Te are practically the same functions. F is just peppered with people in the equation. Fe and Te in the same room it can get nasty.

I'm going to need arguments for your "N" types. I don't see examples of "N" types. They don't really see the big picture, they tend to about what things are as oppose to what things mean or what things are going to mean. They often focus on the here and now and Splinter handles the big ideas.

Here's negative traits for ISFJ. See Ralph?
May find difficulty expressing their feelings without fear or anger.
May be unable to correctly judge what really is for the best
May wrongly suspect others of having hidden motives or agendas
May be unable to shrug off feelings impending disaster
May be unable to acknowledge or hear anything that goes against their certainty about the "correct" or "right" way to do things
May have a tendency to blame particular persons for disturbing or upsetting "their world" by simply being who they are
May come across to others as cold and insensitive to anything but another's ability to fit in with and support their own judgments
May be unnecessarily harsh or strict about appropriate social behaviour
May be oblivious to what others think about them
May come across as rigid, inflexible or even cold and uncaring to others, without being aware of it
May be unable to understand verbal logic, and quickly cut off other's explanations
May value their own certainties about the world and its problems far above others
May be quite falsely certain of their influence upon, and understandingof others
May be extremely vulnerable to tricks, con men, false hopes, religious cults and conspiracy theories
May react with anger or distress when someone expresses disagreement with their view of the world, or disapproval of their judgements
May favour their judgements to the degree that they are unable to notice the pain or difficulty such judgements might cause others
Under great stress, are likely to make outrageously harsh and uncaringly selfish survival oriented decisions

Here's positive traits for ISTJ Leo
Their desire to execute known systems against concrete facts makes them happy to chunk through large amounts of routine work.
With their respect for rules and order, they value honesty and integrity and seek to live with these ideals.
An ISTJ has a "stick to it" attitude. They're not afraid of hard work, and will put forth a great deal of effort towards something that they are interested in. This persistence will help the ISTJ to achieve any identified goal.
The ISTJ's value for social structure makes them more interested in being social than is true for many Introverts.

*Edit
INFJ Shredder
I may go with INFP for Splinter.

**9272** · 04-10-2013, 09:16 PM


	Fe and Te are practically the same functions

........................................

No wonder some people have no idea what they are, wow.Most of the qualities you list just scream Te and Fi outloud.


	May be unnecessarily harsh or strict about appropriate social behaviour

?? Never remember this happening...maybe with leo, which is why he's an SJ.

His names not even "ralph". Yeah i'll get into all of this later.

**brian1625** · 04-10-2013, 09:26 PM

I'll give an actual example to please your Te.

"May be unnecessarily harsh or strict about appropriate social behavior"

Example.

Raphael to Leo
"Why are we down here in the sewers looking for a place to stay, shouldn't we be out finding the Foot?" Without consulting the team further with his argument, he pouts and goes off and does it himself.

**9272** · 04-10-2013, 09:30 PM


	"Why are we down here in the sewers looking for a place to stay, shouldn't we be out finding the Foot?" Without consulting the team further with his argument, he pouts and goes off and does it himself.

Dominant Si is all about acting on feelings and ignoring security?


	"May be unnecessarily harsh or strict about appropriate social behavior"

Socially appropriate to look towards revenge and ignore security?

Te examples may include flowers and bows.

**davai** · 04-10-2013, 09:41 PM

Which version?

**brian1625** · 04-10-2013, 09:47 PM

Dominant Si is about "knowing" what's right. He fought the foot before (Si) then it's followed up by Fe; God damn it he's going to do something about it.

As for your second point. What's socially appropriated is relative. It's not a fixed thing as you have mentioned. Real world example. Gays not being allowed to marry may seem socially appropriate to one person, but not the other.

Now what's unfortunate here, is that if you are INTJ. (I don't know you, so I won't speculate) As is common with INTJs is you -may- want to "Win" this argument as oppose to coming ton a consensus. Well, if you plan on winning this argument. I'm going need you to defend your arguments of your choices. As I have defended mine, at least to some extent.

*Edit. The Movies are what I'm referring too. Good question.

**davai** · 04-10-2013, 10:05 PM

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	*Edit. The Movies are what I'm referring too. Good question.

Haven't watched those in forever. Mikey is probably the same in any version.
Donny IxTP.
Leo maybe ISTJ, and Raph dunno. In that more recent anime film he was possibly ISTP.
Shredder is an emotive T, or a messed up F.
Splinter INFJ sounds right.
Krang is too awesome to be typed.
Rocksteady and Bebop are probably 2 two dumb SPs.

**brian1625** · 04-11-2013, 05:35 AM

Donny as IxTP I tend to go with. Ti as his first trait.

Also notice Raph the first movie. He takes it the HARDEST when Splinter was captured. The core of his being is protecting his family, but it causes a lot of emotional turmoil (See Negative ISFJ traits above)

Splinter INFJ. Explain?

**Subtotal** · 04-11-2013, 06:53 AM

I'm not sure how to type Raph, but I will say that he's either an inferior Fe or a underdeveloped Fi type (oblivious to others feelings)...

Given how there's an ongoing thread that Raph thinks he should be in charge (Te?) I would say that he's probably an xxTJ type, he could actually be a maladjusted ENTJ...

On another note, does anyone have a type for April? (And possible Casey Jones)

02-26-2008, 08:47 AM	#1
blue tie Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 108	I've been having trouble nailing down the MBTI types of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Since there are four of them, I figured it would be one of each, but I keep getting stuff on Raphael. Leo - SJ. He respects tradition and Master Splinter and all that jazz. Mikey - ESFP. Action. Pizza. Funny. Duhh... Donatello - I used to jump straight to NT. He's at least a T. Raph - I have no idea... I've Googled for other people's opinions. One guy put Raph as INTJ which would explain his hot-headedness. Then Donnie was like an STJ, which made Leo an NFJ, which didn't really sound that accurrate to me. Although, in my original model, Raph would have been the NF, which sounds way off. How do you type someone that's permanently on edge?
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02-26-2008, 07:12 PM	#3
Universe New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 56	Leo seems like an ISTJ and I'd guess Donatello's an ENTP. Mikey seems like an ESFP. Raph is unstable and crabby, but I still see him as more of a T than an F. He lacks empathy and just seems more guided by thinking than feeling, so I think he's an ISTP.
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02-26-2008, 07:27 PM	#4
narutofanninja New Member [01%] MBTI: intp Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 38	I think Leo is more Extroverted. He doesn't depend on other people, but that is the source of his strength. In a way, he feels liable of protecting others.
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02-27-2008, 03:47 PM	#6
Uberfuhrer Member [39%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,568	Leonardo: ENFJ Donatello: INTP Raphael: ISTJ Michaelangelo: ESFP At least in last year's CG TMNT movie.
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02-27-2008, 04:11 PM	#7
pavman Member [10%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 401	Duh, Splinter is the INTJ! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Of course, I'm basing it on the first movie, and the cartoon series, not the comic books, so it could be waaay off To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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02-27-2008, 08:05 PM	#8
Lucid Core Member [147%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,900	Holy crap, I was just thinking about this the other day. Take your listening devices out of my teeth you bastards! To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My favorite was always Raphael because of his sarcasm. I was wondering if he might qualify as an INTJ but decided against it. I think he's definitely an S of some kind.
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02-28-2008, 10:17 AM	#11
Santana28 Member [31%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,247	he seems more an ENFJ to me...but he was always pissed off at the turtles so its not like we ever saw him in a normal state To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. but that would make sense.
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02-28-2008, 03:15 PM	#13
Santana28 Member [31%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,247	you have to remember that Shredder was not always the most careful planner and tended to do things out of fits of anger... Krang, remember Krang? When it came to actual operational planning, Krang was king. But Shredder was better at organization, motivation, and willpower! I don't see him as much of a functional thinking type so much as a megalomaniacal leader!
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10-24-2008, 06:25 PM	#14
vanidence Member [06%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 257	Woooow...you Guys are awesome! It's great you also labeled "non Real" Chars! I LOVE the TMNT so I am even more happy to see this Thread! >//< While we are at it...what about annoying April of the earlier Comics, compared to smart, cool April of the 2003 Series? Or Casey? And what about the two Dumbsters Rocksteady and Beebop? Hm, actually...Raph IS kinda tough to label. He is pretty hot-headed, straight, somehow always "on his own" and also he tends to act before thinking because of his Temperament. So...hm. =/ Oddly...I always really liked them all, but mostly Leo. Then with the new Series in 2003 it kinda changed and Raph / Leo were somehow sharing the Top, followed by Mikey (Fun Guy) and Donnie. Weird. ^^°
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04-10-2013, 08:45 PM	#15
brian1625 New Member [01%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25	Leo ISTJ Ralph ISFJ Mikey ESFP Donny ISTP Look at negative traits of ISFJ for Ralph. And you'll also notice the two Js are at each other throats. This is common when two similar personalty types occupy the same space. I notice on a lot of MBTI websites, they tend to focus on the female type personalities with "F" types. It's not just the "Nurturer type" With Ralph it's a masculine ISFJ "The Defender" (Also fits his weapon choice, a defending weapon) When Splinter gets kidnapped. Ralph goes on his own to recharge (i) and takes it the hardest. That's what he values most. Helping others, especially those close to him. Leo is also an introvert. He goes off and meditates. Makes sense that Ninjas would value alone time and measured results. (Hence the IJ combo like INTJ) Mikey is the exception, he's always been the exception. But he remains an extroverted S. He shadowed his brother Ralph. (Sibling type shadowing as mention in Jung's Psychological types) Makes sense they would all be "S" types. They're brothers.
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04-10-2013, 08:50 PM	#16
9272 Member [41%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,673	Michaelangelo-ESFP for sure Leo-ESTJ Don-ENTP??? Raph-ENFP......or INFP.....I guess INFP makes more sense as there would be a Te struggle where he blasts everyone with his thoughts. Splinter INFJ Shredder-ENTJ Krang-INTJ
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04-10-2013, 09:01 PM	#17
brian1625 New Member [01%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25	Fe and Te are practically the same functions. F is just peppered with people in the equation. Fe and Te in the same room it can get nasty. I'm going to need arguments for your "N" types. I don't see examples of "N" types. They don't really see the big picture, they tend to about what things are as oppose to what things mean or what things are going to mean. They often focus on the here and now and Splinter handles the big ideas. Here's negative traits for ISFJ. See Ralph? May find difficulty expressing their feelings without fear or anger. May be unable to correctly judge what really is for the best May wrongly suspect others of having hidden motives or agendas May be unable to shrug off feelings impending disaster May be unable to acknowledge or hear anything that goes against their certainty about the "correct" or "right" way to do things May have a tendency to blame particular persons for disturbing or upsetting "their world" by simply being who they are May come across to others as cold and insensitive to anything but another's ability to fit in with and support their own judgments May be unnecessarily harsh or strict about appropriate social behaviour May be oblivious to what others think about them May come across as rigid, inflexible or even cold and uncaring to others, without being aware of it May be unable to understand verbal logic, and quickly cut off other's explanations May value their own certainties about the world and its problems far above others May be quite falsely certain of their influence upon, and understandingof others May be extremely vulnerable to tricks, con men, false hopes, religious cults and conspiracy theories May react with anger or distress when someone expresses disagreement with their view of the world, or disapproval of their judgements May favour their judgements to the degree that they are unable to notice the pain or difficulty such judgements might cause others Under great stress, are likely to make outrageously harsh and uncaringly selfish survival oriented decisions Here's positive traits for ISTJ Leo Their desire to execute known systems against concrete facts makes them happy to chunk through large amounts of routine work. With their respect for rules and order, they value honesty and integrity and seek to live with these ideals. An ISTJ has a "stick to it" attitude. They're not afraid of hard work, and will put forth a great deal of effort towards something that they are interested in. This persistence will help the ISTJ to achieve any identified goal. The ISTJ's value for social structure makes them more interested in being social than is true for many Introverts. *Edit INFJ Shredder I may go with INFP for Splinter.
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04-10-2013, 09:26 PM	#19
brian1625 New Member [01%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25	I'll give an actual example to please your Te. "May be unnecessarily harsh or strict about appropriate social behavior" Example. Raphael to Leo "Why are we down here in the sewers looking for a place to stay, shouldn't we be out finding the Foot?" Without consulting the team further with his argument, he pouts and goes off and does it himself.
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04-10-2013, 09:41 PM	#21
davai Core Member [177%] MBTI: Infp Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 7,088	Which version?
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04-10-2013, 09:47 PM	#22
brian1625 New Member [01%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25	Dominant Si is about "knowing" what's right. He fought the foot before (Si) then it's followed up by Fe; God damn it he's going to do something about it. As for your second point. What's socially appropriated is relative. It's not a fixed thing as you have mentioned. Real world example. Gays not being allowed to marry may seem socially appropriate to one person, but not the other. Now what's unfortunate here, is that if you are INTJ. (I don't know you, so I won't speculate) As is common with INTJs is you -may- want to "Win" this argument as oppose to coming ton a consensus. Well, if you plan on winning this argument. I'm going need you to defend your arguments of your choices. As I have defended mine, at least to some extent. *Edit. The Movies are what I'm referring too. Good question.
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04-11-2013, 05:35 AM	#24
brian1625 New Member [01%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 25	Donny as IxTP I tend to go with. Ti as his first trait. Also notice Raph the first movie. He takes it the HARDEST when Splinter was captured. The core of his being is protecting his family, but it causes a lot of emotional turmoil (See Negative ISFJ traits above) Splinter INFJ. Explain?
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04-11-2013, 06:53 AM	#25
Subtotal Member [06%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 251	I'm not sure how to type Raph, but I will say that he's either an inferior Fe or a underdeveloped Fi type (oblivious to others feelings)... Given how there's an ongoing thread that Raph thinks he should be in charge (Te?) I would say that he's probably an xxTJ type, he could actually be a maladjusted ENTJ... On another note, does anyone have a type for April? (And possible Casey Jones)
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