Israeli deadline?

**Krazy P** · 10-10-2009, 07:56 PM

Is or will Israel set a deadline re Iran?

Lots of chatter I am reading - especially in the last week or so.

What say you?

(War by March?)

**Malkavia** · 10-10-2009, 10:00 PM

This is why I love the Middle East and why I am going to college to be a part of it. It is complete chaos and constantly changing, a perfect world for an ENFP.

Out of all my research however, I honestly don't know whats going to happen. It truly is unpredictable. I do not find either Iran or Israel completely rational.

Of course this semester has been my worst and most busy semester in college so far so I havent read ALL the news I usually read.

**rickster** · 10-10-2009, 10:07 PM

	Originally Posted by Krazy P To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Is or will Israel set a deadline re Iran? Lots of chatter I am reading - especially in the last week or so. What say you? (War by March?)

Oh yes it's getting interesting!

Since Israel efficiently knocked out Saddam Hussein's nuclear capability with no apologies to anyone, there's little chance they won't do exactly the same to Iran. I'm certain that's why the fuckers are treading very carefully.

**Pandemonium** · 10-10-2009, 10:17 PM

Because of the recent circumstances I am in support of Iran (disregarding my dislike of their government). The USA has had their eyes on Iran ever since the Iranians kicked out the pro-USA dictator they had. This is going to be Iraq all over again. Have people forgotten the media and the government blatantly lying in the lead up and aftermath of the Iraq war?

I hope there is not a conflict. If there is I hope they give the antagonists (USA, Israel) hell.

PS. I don't support violence for means of conflict resolution.

**Night Runner** · 10-11-2009, 01:54 AM

If and when it happens, it will be two theocracies fighting one another. Regardless of the outcome, there will be less religious zealots on both sides. Should be fairly entertaining to watch...
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**Profit** · 10-11-2009, 09:03 AM

	Originally Posted by Krazy P To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Is or will Israel set a deadline re Iran? Lots of chatter I am reading - especially in the last week or so. What say you? (War by March?)

God I hope not. The best thing that Israel could do for the entire situation is to stay on the side lines. Setting a deadline that Iran will not abide by will only force the regime further into a corner. I can't imagine the Iranians (especially the Republican Guard) not responding to an attack by Israel on their nuclear facilities. At that point you have an escalating air war as both sides bomb the crap out of the other. Iran also still has a lot of resources in Iraq that they could use to stir up the sh*t there. Depending on the rhetoric of the Iranian regime and how the Iranian people respond you could have the makings of an extended conflict. If the west tries to support Israel, Iran responds by bombing oil tankers causing the price of oil to sky rocket, screwing us all. So yeah, Israel jumping the gun has a good chance of sparking a wider war in the Middle East. Even if the US attacked (please god/allah no), Iran is not Iraq, the military is not going to collapse in a matter of weeks.

**Mader** · 10-12-2009, 04:44 PM

I don't know what will happen.

I do think that both sides are saying what they think, tho.
If Israel feels threatened, it will strike.
Iran, that nutcase, if he is truly in charge, hopes to destroy Israel. Now, the question is, is that nutcase truly in charge?

Why the US doesn't do more to become less dependant on the Middle East for energy, I just don't get, cause there is no way in hell we can get out of this if we need their oil.

larkin · 10-12-2009, 04:53 PM

As awesome as it would be to be fighting a third war in the country directly in between the previous two, it's simply not feasible for the U.S. to support Israel in any military action. And for the most part, it's not feasible for Israel to take action without at least the tacit support of the U.S.

So this is hopefully all talk. The only thing worse than talking loudly and carrying a tiny stick is talking loudly and thinking you carry a big one.

**SeaCzar** · 10-12-2009, 05:28 PM

I read somewhere that Israel needs the IFF (identify friend or foe) codes from the United States in order to carry out an attack of Iran's nuclear facilities due to the heavy presence of the US military in Iraq & Afghanistan. The US certainly has enough of a mess on its hands in the region NOT to want to inflame the area any more. I can understand Israel's fears and insecurities over Iran. I have also read that the Gulf Cooperation Council would not mind seeing Israel taking these facilities out. Yet, Israel's attack would unite Iran's citizens under the very government that needs to be reformed and replaced (remember June's stolen elections). I am certainly no admirer of the current Iranian regime, but if Israel did attack, all Hell would break loose, and there would be a lot of unanticipated consequences which would almost certainly make the situation worse than it is today.

**Profit** · 10-12-2009, 08:31 PM

	Originally Posted by Mader To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Iran, that nutcase, if he is truly in charge, hopes to destroy Israel. Now, the question is, is that nutcase truly in charge?

Ahmadinejad is president but thankfully he doesn't have the authority to launch a war against Israel. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the Supreme Leader, he's actually in charge of the military and foreign policy.

larkin · 10-13-2009, 05:55 AM

	Originally Posted by Profit To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Ahmadinejad is president but thankfully he doesn't have the authority to launch a war against Israel. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the Supreme Leader, he's actually in charge of the military and foreign policy.

Also, I wouldn't overestimate what Arab (or in this case, Persian) leaders say about Israel because it's politically beneficial to do so, as frustrating as it might be. Both Egypt and Jordan refused to recognize Israel before Camp David.

10-10-2009, 07:56 PM	#1
Krazy P Member [17%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 703	Is or will Israel set a deadline re Iran? Lots of chatter I am reading - especially in the last week or so. What say you? (War by March?)
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10-10-2009, 10:00 PM	#2
Malkavia Core Member [235%] MBTI: ENXP Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9,432	This is why I love the Middle East and why I am going to college to be a part of it. It is complete chaos and constantly changing, a perfect world for an ENFP. Out of all my research however, I honestly don't know whats going to happen. It truly is unpredictable. I do not find either Iran or Israel completely rational. Of course this semester has been my worst and most busy semester in college so far so I havent read ALL the news I usually read.
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10-10-2009, 10:17 PM	#4
Pandemonium Veteran Member [53%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,120	Because of the recent circumstances I am in support of Iran (disregarding my dislike of their government). The USA has had their eyes on Iran ever since the Iranians kicked out the pro-USA dictator they had. This is going to be Iraq all over again. Have people forgotten the media and the government blatantly lying in the lead up and aftermath of the Iraq war? I hope there is not a conflict. If there is I hope they give the antagonists (USA, Israel) hell. PS. I don't support violence for means of conflict resolution.
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10-11-2009, 01:54 AM	#5
Night Runner Core Member [148%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,931	If and when it happens, it will be two theocracies fighting one another. Regardless of the outcome, there will be less religious zealots on both sides. Should be fairly entertaining to watch... To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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10-12-2009, 04:44 PM	#7
Mader Member [36%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,475	I don't know what will happen. I do think that both sides are saying what they think, tho. If Israel feels threatened, it will strike. Iran, that nutcase, if he is truly in charge, hopes to destroy Israel. Now, the question is, is that nutcase truly in charge? Why the US doesn't do more to become less dependant on the Middle East for energy, I just don't get, cause there is no way in hell we can get out of this if we need their oil.
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10-12-2009, 04:53 PM	#8
larkin Core Member [144%] MBTI: ENxP Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 5,785	As awesome as it would be to be fighting a third war in the country directly in between the previous two, it's simply not feasible for the U.S. to support Israel in any military action. And for the most part, it's not feasible for Israel to take action without at least the tacit support of the U.S. So this is hopefully all talk. The only thing worse than talking loudly and carrying a tiny stick is talking loudly and thinking you carry a big one.
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10-12-2009, 05:28 PM	#9
SeaCzar Veteran Member [66%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,668	I read somewhere that Israel needs the IFF (identify friend or foe) codes from the United States in order to carry out an attack of Iran's nuclear facilities due to the heavy presence of the US military in Iraq & Afghanistan. The US certainly has enough of a mess on its hands in the region NOT to want to inflame the area any more. I can understand Israel's fears and insecurities over Iran. I have also read that the Gulf Cooperation Council would not mind seeing Israel taking these facilities out. Yet, Israel's attack would unite Iran's citizens under the very government that needs to be reformed and replaced (remember June's stolen elections). I am certainly no admirer of the current Iranian regime, but if Israel did attack, all Hell would break loose, and there would be a lot of unanticipated consequences which would almost certainly make the situation worse than it is today.
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