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Old 10-11-2009, 11:28 AM   #26
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Yeah, I have actually. The prep time and the inability to control the dose puts me off.

I have seen the strongest, bravest person I know totally broke down and cried like a little girl while on it. Truth.


sidenote:
I like to be in control when I'm sober, but there were times where I just wanted to let go and let the higher powers take over. I wouldn't want a lesser experience otherwise.

I don't know too many personally who have tried it, but I have not once heard a negative experienced shared from ingesting San Pedro. In fact I have only seen a few rare and scare negative reports online.

I've prepped for over 24 hours at a time before, but I found it to be just as effective around 4 hours. I have chopped up a 12''-16'' cutting per person in the past and the results where relativity consistent.

During the peak of experiences I have went for walks around town to look at the beautiful purple tinted plants. Mescaline doesn't disassociate you from the world like many other substances do. It was far from being sober, but I always just feel in complete control.



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What if you were making them yourself?

I make the other substances I take myself. Those ones would still be too harmful to my body and mind even if I made them.

 
Ok, I have to ask, wouldn't hallucinations be, well... scary? I have never even daydreamed yet alone seen/heard something that didn't exist. I have felt things that existed (but that is another story).

I recall a time (on mescaline) where I could hallucinate myself into various cartoon worlds. If I wanted to be in the Simpson's, the entire room would transform into the character. If I wanted to be in King of the Hill, the same thing would happen. Hallucinations are not scary, but delusions can be. At one point my shadow was Bart Simpsons shadow and he would not stop following me around. I became slightly paranoid until I was able to just tell myself it was just my fucking shadow. If they where always scary why would anyone use any psychedelic drugs?

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Professor Feynman's accounts of weed and lsd (taken in isolation tanks) in his book 'Surely you're Joking Mr Feynman,' are very interesting.

Richard is an idol of mine. More so because of his work in physics and cosmology, but I enjoy just listening interviews of him because he is an excellent story teller and teacher. I have not read that book because I didn't even know it existed, but I will check it out!

 
When I did salvia I saw some stuff but I can't say it was any more creative than I'm capable of being anyway, I just don't see the whole 'expanding your mind' argument, only salvia was in any way a different experience but nothing more than could be simulated by various other media, it just subjectifies what would normally be an objective imagination.
I,e; from 'it would be cool if I could see gnomes,' to 'oh cool I can see gnomes,'

Salvia gives me out of body experiences, entire ego loss, and a bunch of other crazy stuff. I can't visualize anything in my mind while sober, but on light doses of Salvia I see sounds as waves. They appear literally like a winamp visualization. The waves on the left of the spectrum are lower in pitch than than ones on the right side of the spectrum. On higher doses I get convinced that the reality I knew before was just a dream state and that the Savlia state is the true state of mind. I also feel as though other people have tricked me into thinking the real world is as it is. I've witnessed portal holes opening that tried to suck me. I've merged with multiple objects at once. The first peak experience I had with Salvia will probably forever be the most profound experience of my entire life. Needless to say I couldn't disagree more that it is possible to reach such levels of "creativity" without aid from substances. The whole thing about gnomes is a part of the brain that is stimulated the produces the presence of entities. Large doses of LSD, shrooms, mescaline, and other substances all ultimately target the same chemical in the brain DMT. The reality is people see whatever they expect to see. Some sense Jesus Christ while others sense Aliens, Elves Gnomes, Ferries, or hell, even real people.

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Old 10-11-2009, 11:59 AM   #27
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Coffee, Alcohol, Music, Hypnosis, Sleep Dep, THC back in the day.

When I'm good and old and retired I plan to spend a decent amount of time playing with LSD and DMT if you can still get it then.

Agree re: Feynman. He is the man.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:19 AM   #28
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LSD likely won't hold many surprises, at this point, but peyote is forever on the list of 'if it crosses my path, it's done'--

And DMT would be very nice, if I felt I could draw/write during, not after--

And that's a very big tentacled if, by all accounts.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:28 AM   #29
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I have a reputation for having a "stick up my ass" because I never get drunk or otherwise inhibited. No illicit drugs here, just caffeine from tea.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:53 AM   #30
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I did develop a pot smoking habit for a couple years. I drank in my youth and still drink on occasion...But other than that.... I've done cocaine 3x, a Peyoteish drug 1x, Ayuasca 1x, mushrooms 2x, I hated cocaine, enjoyed the mushrooms, ayuasca would have been better if I'd taken more, and the peyote drug was interesting....
The thing with the mushrooms is that if you don't eat that day you really can go places. Some people have just reported a heightened sense of this or that, cuddly feeling etc..but I went way out there...The mushrooms are good because you feel safe and you don't freak out like you might on acid or LSD (although I've heard of it happening). But watch out for everything...don't buy stuff from skeez bags (not that you're asking). I tripped out almost every time when I was in Hawaii, which is a much better place than ones apt. in the winter...
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:06 AM   #31
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Caffeine, oh my oldest and truest frined.
Nicotine, i can always rely on you to do the job.
Maryjane, you're not the girl for me.

I used to drink like 4 pops a day with energy drinks sprinkled in there too. Those were the days of highschool with allnighters of gaming with friends.

Nicotine is my current drug of choice. I hated it growing up because my dad smokes. Now I'm a pack a day smoker. I love the buzz I get, the slight lightheadedness.

Weed if only tried a few times. I've had different experiences. My first time was by far the most fun "trip," I experienced astral projection of sorts. Where I could see my body but I was laggin about 5 seconds behind it. There was also a part during that trip where I closed my eyes and was listening to music. I felt as if I was flying over a jungle in an orange sky. I could see, with amazing vision, the leaves grow to tendrils and start spiraling inward to which I flew into and at that point I opened my eyes.

Alcohol, last year I had a tough time addapting to college life and so I got into a heavy drinking phase where I would literally drink a 750ml bottle of southern comfort whiskey by myself. Different things happened from me feeling on top of the world, saying random things such as, "i'm spider man!"(while i was hanging in a tree) to completely blacking out and not remembering hours of the night before.
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:35 AM   #32
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Hey hey hey hey..

Smoke weed every day.


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Old 10-12-2009, 07:34 AM   #33
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Caffeine - (Bean)Makes me very moody and stops me eating properly. Cant sleep for approx four hours after drinking standard mug.
Alcohol - (distilled mouldy shit) I only binge drink and not very often. I get very open towards everyone. I have quite high tolerance so no throwing up, pouring my heart out or frantically calling random people, but i feel it for days after. I dont like alcohol.
Weed - (Plant) I smoked for four years (age 18-22). Definately affects your short term memory. I enjoyed smoking alot, method of choice: Hash (resin) in bongs (Alot healthier although it does look alot filthier). It can help sleep and is INCREDIBLE with stomach/ period/ head pain.
Salvia - (Plant) I didnt like this so much, i had a bad experience. It kind of takes you out of reality in a very strange, distubing way. I interpreted things around me very irrationally and with a hell of alot of paranoia. It only lasts for a minute or so.
Ecstasy - (Pill) Pure form of ecstasy. This makes you kind of jump out of your body, you HAVE to be active, either running, dancing, talking at train speed or shaking uncontrollably. You love everyone and everything..... and you profess this to everyone. I tend to bite my lips and grind my teeth on this drug. You cant sleep for a good sixteen hours or so.
MDMA - (Crystals) A cleaner buzz than ecstasy, i can happily sit and calmly listen to music or talk rationally about most things. You still love everyone and everything, but not in such a hyperactive way (mainly because it isnt mixed with speed etc the way ecstacy is). I can usually sleep after a few hours.
Cocaine - (Powder) This would have to be my favourite drug and the one i miss most. Its waaaaay more expensive per gram than any other drug i have taken. It pretty much makes you feel like a Don. You are the most amazing thing to have hit this century, everything you say is fascinating and magical. Every experience is hightened, music is amazing, i tend to become very considerate of people and their feelings. Buzz last about an hour or so depending on quality.

I now do none of this, except the occassional drinking and a hit here and there. I think i might be getting too dependant on hash again, but i suppose i just enjoy it way to much.
For about two years i was taking alot of cocaine, ecstasy and MDMA and have not hallucinated even once, to dispel the myths that these drugs cause you to see things. I would like to take shrooms but they arent so easy to get hold of, plus ive heard crazy stories.
The most important thing about trying drugs is to do it with someone who genuinly cares about you and is not ''taken'' by the drug.

EDIT: ALso tried a drug similar to cocaine. I tried it in a different country and it was called Chagigat there, but im not sure what it is, whats in it, or where it originally comes from, ide not be surprised if all it was is a cocktail of rat poison, speed, cocaine and household cleaning products. It alsob takes form in a powder but is relatively cheap in comparison to cocaine which it is most similar to.

 

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Old 10-12-2009, 08:56 AM   #34
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i'm interested in hearing how INTJ's think and act while fucked up. what do you like to do and what does it do to you? [/SPOILER]

I am fucked up in my natural condition, and I like that...

However, and I will not get into my past, bores me now, presently I would not exist without weed. I have to use it medicinally, I don't use pills, without weed I would not be able to sleep the pain would take over, my mind would not shut down, I will die without it, either from slowly waning or by my own hand. Oh and it is fucking wonderful... that is all!

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Old 10-12-2009, 02:53 PM   #35
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Old 10-12-2009, 03:15 PM   #36
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I have a reputation for having a "stick up my ass" because I never get drunk or otherwise inhibited. No illicit drugs here, just caffeine from tea.

Inhibited, or uninhibited?
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:56 PM   #37
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I've widely experimented. Been addicted. Quit. New addictions.

Current usage/time used: adderall (10 months) and cigarettes(5 years). [All legal, for once]

Also probably important to note I easily become addicted to things, not necessarily drugs. [For example: Altoids.] I feel like I always have to have some kind of "drug" to push me through. If I quit certain addictions, they must be replaced.

Things I've noticed:
1. Even when highly intoxicated due alcohol, and my movements and speech are disoriented, my mind does not stop working. I do not lose control to the point that I'd do something I would regret. Besides the two times I've blacked out, which has no memory. I am either in control(mentally), black out, or puking. I have even been to the point where I couldn't see, being carried up the stairs, totally coherent to what was being happening, but unable to move for myself. [Note: I no longer drink. It is no longer pleasurable to me.]

2. I do not smoke Marijuana anymore because of odd reactions. I definitely partook in my fair share, but it was never enjoyable. I just couldn't let myself go. (This being similar to alcohol intoxication) But the really bizarre thing was that after about 3 years of occasional use, I found that every time I would smoke, my vision would momentarily go dark, my hearing would be greatly reduced and when my vision came back I saw hallucinations. To say the least, it's isn't worth it anymore.

3. I've been on ADHD stimulants daily for the past year. Brilliant stuff. It really ironed out a lot of the mental frustrations knotting that has plagued me. Not a complete fix, but getting there.

4. When I was in high school I had a long, dangerous relationship with (aerosol) inhalants, something I am quite ashamed of. At that point in my life I felt like I was rotting, without potential, and trapped. Inhalants are completely and utterly dangerous and stupid, but to this day produced the most profound states of mind. The thoughts I experienced were ridiculous and meaningless, but it felt like it was some cut off corner of my brain, which didn't process outside stimuli. It was a short-lived complete internalization. But that isn't worth the danger or brain damage. After a series of near-death experiences I swore inhalants off.

Various:
Mushrooms had little effect.
Coke not as good as Adderall.
Oxycotin makes me fall asleep without trying (I have difficulties with sleep, so this is rare. I have never fallen asleep with out trying to.)
Codeine gives me the spins.
I have hallucinated on large quantities of caffeine.
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:25 AM   #38
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Hey hey hey hey..

Smoke weed every day.

What's a cake like compared to smoking a joint?

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Old 10-13-2009, 11:48 AM   #39
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mushroom experience: Body starts to vibrate (not convulsing), you feel like you are vibrating quickly. The world starts to breathe (literally) and it looks fundamentally different, but in a consistent way. Hear music (not pop=), hear buzzing, close your eyes and you see a different world... thses beings that have very little detail and you feel that you have spider webs on your face (which is what happens when people go into 'the other world', that I know is a common symptom).
Same thing happened when I took this other stuff, but it was very brief...with the people and the music. However, the second time I took it I saw my body die, which wasn't that pleasant. So, I decided I was being greedy (not taking it in good spirit) ,or for whatever reason , was responding differently and so I gave the rest away..

Cocaine is the worst thing ever.. it's so addictive, you feel like you want to shoot yourself when you're coming down...omg.. the worst, but it's so fun when you're on it...not worth it, not.

Pot- used to do something for me. But I was taking it when I was going through the worst time in my life.And now when I take it I get so depressed and freaked out by every little thing. Relationships, civilization, everything I feel becomes so clear and there is no happiness anywhere....So, I stay away=)
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:34 PM   #40
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Is pure meth big in your countries? It's definitely big in NZ.

Meths a big problem over here. More than people know...

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Old 10-13-2009, 01:44 PM   #41
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I like to smoke pot. (I also like to keep it casual, which is why I don't use formal words like "cannabis" or "marijuana". Blame that on the pot...)

I like to smoke pot because it makes me feel good. I could give you a huge list of reasons that are more eloquent or elaborate...but that is the simplest and most genuine answer I can give. I have a 3.8 GPA after 3 years of working on an economics degree, and I write programming for database queries at a research institute....and I've been smoking pot on a daily basis for 6 years. (<-- authors attempt to establish his credibility as a productive member of society, albeit a pot-smoking one)

What do I act like when I smoke pot? Well, for starters, you wouldn't even know I was using it. I don't talk about crazy, irrational things, I don't get the giggles or the munchies or the paranoia. I don't veg out on the coach and watch Family Guy reruns (ok, well maybe on occasion). I do all the normal, boring stuff everyone else does...I just do it on pot. Furthermore, as an introverted personality, I really, really, really enjoy my private time in my head and smoking pot increases this pleasure/need exponentially.

Will I stop using pot? Probably. Most likely. I'm not gonna fight the damn system over recreation. But the only reason I'm gonna have to quit is 'cause everyone else seems to think that cannabis usage is counter-productive to my life and my society. And I suppose it is. But only 'cause you said it was and made everyone else think that too. (<---royal "you")





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Old 10-13-2009, 02:20 PM   #42
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marijuana or adderall, by far. i've done other stuff but those are the only two i really liked. i did coke a few times in a bar when people offered me a line or two. i didn't see what the big deal was. coke is totally overrated. i've done X a couple times. that was an awesome drug. i remember dancing to music i hate like fruity techno stuff. i've tried shrooms, they're alright. i've never done heroin nor will i ever. too addictive, i hear plus the whole needles things.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:31 PM   #43
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I've abused adderall quite often (not lately though) It's the best feeling!
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:51 PM   #44
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i would not recommend 'shrooms to anyone. just in case. i had a hellish experience the one time i tried them and i would never do them again.
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Old 10-13-2009, 08:55 PM   #45
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i would not recommend 'shrooms to anyone. just in case. i had a hellish experience the one time i tried them and i would never do them again.

I did too, I had a horrible trip.

It was all negative, and I was so distracted by negative thoughts and thinking I would remain in that state forever that I couldn't appreciate anything visual.

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Old 10-13-2009, 09:13 PM   #46
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For those Addherall people...don't you get addicted. I took those once when I was waitressing and oh, they worked, but I was like 'I want more...'! Seriously!? How do they make you feel?

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I did too, I had a horrible trip.

It was all negative, and I was so distracted by negative thoughts and thinking I would remain in that state forever that I couldn't appreciate anything visual.

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i would not recommend 'shrooms to anyone. just in case. i had a hellish experience the one time i tried them and i would never do them again.

hmmm okay, ya, I don't know, I bought them from a really great guy...I dunno if it's the kind you took or whatever...or you..hmmm

 

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Old 10-14-2009, 12:34 PM   #47
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For those Addherall people...don't you get addicted. I took those once when I was waitressing and oh, they worked, but I was like 'I want more...'! Seriously!? How do they make you feel?

fuck yeah, they do. i space my "use" of them out. whatever i do seems awesome when i'm on them. i can do nothing for hours and have a blast. i have to make myself eat something when i do use them though or make myself try to get some sleep. i like to use them for maybe a day or two and then for the next 5 days or so play catch-up on my sleep and eating. they definitely make you want to abuse the shit out of them.

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Old 10-14-2009, 02:18 PM   #48
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:50 PM   #49
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For those Addherall people...don't you get addicted. I took those once when I was waitressing and oh, they worked, but I was like 'I want more...'! Seriously!? How do they make you feel?

Adderall is very addictive. I do have ADD, something I finally found out at age 20. Adderall and Ritalin have changed my life. They make me feel great, normal, even. It provides motivation and a peace that I have been desiring all my life. I don't feel the need to use any other drugs when I am on Adderall besides cigarettes. That is the real reason I quit drinking. I would rather be up than down. It also works great for depression. Side effects that are the most bothersome to me are the difficulties with sleep and eating becomes a chore. Food becomes generally undesirable and tasteless.

I don't take adderall recreationally, but I have in the past. The first time I did it I was already very drunk and took a large dose of adderall. I sobered up and kept drinking to regain intoxication. I ended up staying up all night. The next day was absolute hell. Coming down, I was in terrible pain with vivid hallucinations and temporary tourettes-like symptoms. I couldn't get "adderall" out of my head. I wanted more. That feeling passed. That was three years ago and I would definitely warn against mixing it with alcohol. It's really dangerous and generally unpleasant.

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Old 10-14-2009, 07:38 PM   #50
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i was prescribed adderall (20 mg/2x day) and it had no effect on me. i even tried taking 2 20mg at once and still nothing. maybe it's cos i got generic.
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