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Old 09-18-2009, 12:46 PM   #1
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I wanted to start a recommendation thread for any films that have interesting, intelligent plots or content (or at the very least are exceedingly well done) that may be a bit older, somewhat obscure, etc.

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starring Maggie Smith (a.k.a Miss McGonagall to younger folks).

It's the story of a private school teacher in Edinburgh in 1932. She's very vain, and quite a maniputlative type of person who enjoys her noteriaty and popularity among the staff, with men, and each year she gathers a close knit group of girls from the incoming freshman class there after known as "Brodie's Girls," which for the next four years recieve her special, non-sanctioned, "sensual" education.

She describes herself as an artistic, passionate, bohemian type of person with great intellectual freedom and curiosity, a real adventure seeker when actually she's deeply cynical, controlling, and sexually repressed. She likes to allure and tease men and yet draws away when true intamacy threatens. She's the type that's more in love with the chase then with the capture.

So these girls of hers, they listen to her private lectures on the pleasures of a bohemian, artistic, ideal-driven life, and naive as they are they take her word and example as truth, and she fashions them as she sees fit.

I wont explain any more, as it will give too much of the plot away. In any case, if you've never seen or heard of it, you might like to check it out.
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Old 09-18-2009, 01:22 PM   #2
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The story of Lady Emma Hamilton

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...and her infamous, scandalous affair with Lord Nelson (you know, the guy up on the pole in Trafalgar Square?)

At the risk of annoying several people around here, I'm going to say that the Emma Hamilton character strikes me as a pretty classic ESFJ.
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It's very old school, lots of swoopy romantic moments and music to match, a certain amount of mugging for the camera in close ups. Not a lot of depth, pretty highly fictionalized. But I've always liked this movie... for some reason, it just sticks in my mind. It's beautiful, a glittering B&W costume drama. And Vivien Leigh. Talk about "it" factor. This movie emphasizes how, when certain people are on screen, you can't not look at them. She's one of those people.
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Old 09-18-2009, 01:37 PM   #3
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The story of Lady Emma Hamilton

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...and her infamous, scandalous affair with Lord Nelson (you know, the guy up on the pole in Trafalgar Square?)

At the risk of annoying several people around here, I'm going to say that the Emma Hamilton character strikes me as a pretty classic ESFJ.
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It's very old school, lots of swoopy romantic moments and music to match, a certain amount of mugging for the camera in close ups. Not a lot of depth, pretty highly fictionalized. But I've always liked this movie... for some reason, it just sticks in my mind. It's beautiful, a glittering B&W costume drama. And Vivien Leigh. Talk about "it" factor. This movie emphasizes how, when certain people are on screen, you can't not look at them. She's one of those people.


I love Vivien Leigh. I'm going to have to check this out!

 

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Old 09-18-2009, 04:23 PM   #4
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Let The Right One In

This is a movie that was made in 2008 and based on a book written in 2004 by Swedish writer John Ajvide Lindqvist. The movie is hauntingly beautiful. For me the most important theme had to do with loneliness and isolation from society. Many of the characters deal with this theme in their own ways. I don't want to give too much away. Now this is a vampire flick, just to let you know, but honestly it's so much more than that. Also, it is subtitled. There are two subtitled versions - the American version is not as good a translation.

P.S. Watch their hands...I think they tell a mini version of the story itself.
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:06 PM   #5
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good topic


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I love this Scene

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Old 09-18-2009, 08:18 PM   #6
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Too many for me to list. I love film noir/ foreign films.

1. Le Samourai - a very sexy Alain Delon as hitman; very stylish

2. Rififi - the 1950s heist film upon which many heist films are built on

3. Black Orpheus - Rio De Janeiro, Carnival, and the myth of Orpheus/ Eurydice

4. Diabolique

5. Elevator to the Gallows - murder, Paris, and cool Miles Davis score

6. The Visitor - which I haven't been able to find on DVD - post-WW2 revenge with Ingrid Bergman/ Anthony Quinn

Take a look at the Criterion Collection for ideas.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:56 PM   #7
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Happiness (one of the funniest movie ever! that is if you have a very twisted sense of humor)

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here is the whole movie on youtube

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Old 09-19-2009, 07:19 AM   #8
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Kung Fu Hustle - not old but great

Another slightly odd film but I loved it is Punch Drunk Love
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Old 09-19-2009, 11:49 AM   #9
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good topic


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I love this Scene

Oh, yeah, Touch of Evil. Charlton Heston as a Mexican guy trying to crack a "dope ring", Janet Leigh as his American wife, and an aging Marlene Dietrich as one of the local denizens. Drug wars on the border in the 1950s. This is such a weird, shadowy, seedy movie. I saw this in a theatrical re-release, years ago.

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Old 09-21-2009, 10:30 AM   #10
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"Donnie Darko" is twisted and bizarre meditation on the nature of time and reality.

As is "The Jacket".

Both are relatively recent.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:41 AM   #11
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Again, not a challenging-interesting movie, per se, but I like it. Might be hard to find. It's the story of Gilbert & Sullivan creating The Mikado... great Belle Époque costumes, sets, and (if you don't hate Gilbert & Sullivan) music.
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:43 AM   #12
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  Originally Posted by Reeds
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Kung Fu Hustle - not old but great

Another slightly odd film but I loved it is Punch Drunk Love

I loved Kung Fu Hustle! Excellent choice.





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  Originally Posted by FourWishes
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"Donnie Darko" is twisted and bizarre meditation on the nature of time and reality.

As is "The Jacket".

Both are relatively recent.


Yes, Donnie Darko is one of my favorites. Good choice.

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Old 09-21-2009, 11:10 AM   #13
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  Originally Posted by rara avis
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Oh, yeah, Touch of Evil. Charlton Heston as a Mexican guy trying to crack a "dope ring", Janet Leigh as his American wife, and an aging Marlene Dietrich as one of the local denizens. Drug wars on the border in the 1950s. This is such a weird, shadowy, seedy movie. I saw this in a theatrical re-release, years ago.

LOVE this film. And it makes me think of Peter Jackson's Heavenly Creatures because of the two main character's obsession with Orson Welles. Also a very good film.

One more. The black comedy,
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:14 AM   #14
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'The Innocents' and 'Eyes Without a Face'.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:15 AM   #15
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The Creator

It's with Peter O'toole and I LOVE him. About a professor who keeps his dead wife's cells in his garage in the hopes of one day cloning her. It's pretty fascinating, though low on science and high on relationship stuff. I pretty much like anything with O'toole.

Also Fitzcarraldo by Werner Herzog. OK this movie is just weird as hell but somehow makes my heart ache. I'm too scared to watch it again. Same with Aguirre the Wrath of God, also with same actor and directed by Herzog. These two movies I don't so much love as they just make me feel... helpless and frustrated. Lol. Not sure if they belong in this thread as they are foreign films but I thought I would mention them.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:55 AM   #16
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  Originally Posted by Archaic Smile
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Peter Jackson's Heavenly Creatures because of the two main character's obsession with Orson Welles. Also a very good film.

Seconded. I actually own this one on DVD.

And one of the girls the story's based on grew up to be a novelist, Anne Perry.

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Old 09-21-2009, 12:08 PM   #17
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Oooo! Oooo!


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(this is almost an obvious choice)


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(care for a movie w/ zero dialog?)


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(the original w/ Zero Mostel - speaking of zero's)


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(Sean Connery as a monk?? A medieval whodunit?!!)
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:25 PM   #18
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  Originally Posted by Archaic Smile
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One more. The black comedy,
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hahaha yeah such a funny and clever film set in the post apocalyptic world.


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Long Day's Journey into Night (1996) (this is of course one of my favorite plays, and this particular film adaptation is very hard to find, the cast are renowned stage actors from Canada's Stratford Festival. There aren’t really any words to describe such work of art, it is about as perfect as it gets.


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Old 09-21-2009, 12:45 PM   #19
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This one loves the concept question "Does power corrupt or is it might makes right?"
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:25 PM   #20
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The Creator

It's with Peter O'toole and I LOVE him. About a professor who keeps his dead wife's cells in his garage in the hopes of one day cloning her. It's pretty fascinating, though low on science and high on relationship stuff. I pretty much like anything with O'toole.

Also Fitzcarraldo by Werner Herzog. OK this movie is just weird as hell but somehow makes my heart ache. I'm too scared to watch it again. Same with Aguirre the Wrath of God, also with same actor and directed by Herzog. These two movies I don't so much love as they just make me feel... helpless and frustrated. Lol. Not sure if they belong in this thread as they are foreign films but I thought I would mention them.

I will check out The Creator for sure, I am also a fan of Mr O'toole. I am not gay or anything, but I think he is one of the most beautiful gentlemen ever! He still got it, loved him in Venus, another one of his really fine and underrated films, just like Murphy's War.


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this documentary is about the relationship between Herzog and Klaus Kinski, you will see there is every bit of madness both on film and off behind the scene during the making of such films as Fitzcarraldo and Aguirre the Wrath of God.

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  Originally Posted by Extremophile
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Also Fitzcarraldo by Werner Herzog. OK this movie is just weird as hell but somehow makes my heart ache. I'm too scared to watch it again. Same with Aguirre the Wrath of God, also with same actor and directed by Herzog. These two movies I don't so much love as they just make me feel... helpless and frustrated. Lol.

Helpless and frustrated, that's a great description. Herzog is one of the few postwar German filmmakers I really like.

Not sure how obscure it is, but Festen (
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) blew me away when I first saw it. I liked it the second time around, too. It's too bad none of the other Dogma movies were ever as interesting.

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Old 09-23-2009, 04:37 PM   #22
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Helpless and frustrated, that's a great description. Herzog is one of the few postwar German filmmakers I really like.

Not sure how obscure it is, but Festen (
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) blew me away when I first saw it. I liked it the second time around, too. It's too bad none of the other Dogma movies were ever as interesting.

yeah same here, not exactly a fan of the 'Dogme95' minimalist film making style. Festen was one of a kind film, the director did a wonderful job of unfolding such an engaging story, it was pretty much a live play on film.

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Recently I saw Prelude to a Kiss on hulu. I thought it was going to be a romantic comedy and was watching it in order to cure my insomnia. I ended up watching the whole thing. Ebert wrote of this film: "Although it could probably do more with its story, what it does is gentle and moving. The film is fairly hard to categorize, which is one of its strengths . . . Of the dialogue, I'll say how unusual it is for Hollywood characters to talk longingly and thoughtfully about our search for happiness in this world where most assuredly we will die. Prelude to a Kiss is the kind of movie that can inspire long conversations about the only subject really worth talking about, the Meaning of It All."

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Another slightly odd film but I loved it is Punch Drunk Love

Nobody ever talks about this movie! I enjoyed it, too.

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I haven't seen this movie since it was released in the theatres but I remember it to be quite impressive.


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Old 09-23-2009, 06:43 PM   #25
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I haven't seen this movie since it was released in the theatres but I remember it to be quite impressive.


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I can absolutely vouch for this! This is the only movie I have ever seen that has actually moved me deeply. The best movie I have ever seen. It's a highly visual movie, so those who are a bit less artistically inclined may not completely grasp the deeper nuances. Watch this movie.

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