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Old 09-26-2007, 06:40 PM   #1
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I was contemplating this on my way to work today. A big reason why people start smoking is because of peer pressure, which I don't think INTJs would suffer alot from. Also, I would think we'd be able to rationlize 'this doesn't make sense' and stop. Just a theory :o
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Old 09-26-2007, 06:45 PM   #2
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Agreed. INTJs do not commonly pick up habits out of peer pressure.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:06 PM   #3
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I smoke marijuana, and even I find tobacco to be silly :-p
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:40 PM   #4
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It's obvious that I'm the minority in this one, I smoke marijuana and cigarettes too! "Trying to quit smoking cigarettes"...Really,...I am!...Marijuana is another topic.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:43 PM   #5
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  Originally Posted by Jack S
It's obvious that I'm the minority in this one, I smoke marijuana and cigarettes too!

What was your reason for starting to smoke?

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Old 09-26-2007, 09:46 PM   #6
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A few months after my grandma died of cancer, my mom and I spent two whole days scrubbing the walls of grandma's bedroom. The amount of brown stuff that came off of them was enough to convince me that smoking was a stupid idea. [smiley=wreck.gif]
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:47 PM   #7
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That's...bad. Sorry about any emotional connection you may have, but that's really gross.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:47 PM   #8
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I do smoke too. The question as to why is simple - even addiction to substances effect intj's.

Why did I begin to smoke? Because there was a question as to why others smoke and a question of what side of life will I not capture if I exclude them from understanding, so in a sense yes it was peer pressure but nobody ever pushed me into it and for that matter nobody ever called me out on it I started because I wanted to know why people smoke. Even today people look at me and see me smoking and say "Qwerty, I didn't know you were a smoker"
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:54 PM   #9
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I tried smoking when I was a teenager. I can honestly say that my reasons had nothing to do with peer pressure. I only did it alone and didn't tell anyone. I was curious, and I was sensitive to it... it felt good. I realized it was stupid of me though and I quit before my addiction got bad.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:33 PM   #10
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i smoke. been smoking for a long time now too. i have limited my habit, and have plans to quit, and reasons why i don't want to try until my work situation changes.

ever see the movie trainspotting? yeah. it won't be like "dead babies on the ceiling" but it is very likely that i won't be very pleasant to be around. i'll probably just stay stoned for a month.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:39 AM   #11
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I have not smoked in 25 years, but I used to.
I went to college for one semester when I was 18.
I tried marijuana while I was there.
I ended up smoking it occasionally if it was offered to me.
(I didn't buy it.)
A couple of years later, someone offered me a cigarette and I accepted it.
It reminded me of the feeling I got from pot.
Within a week I was addicted.
I was smoking a pack a day at the end.
It took me about 30 tries,
but I finally quit after about 4 years of smoking.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:30 AM   #12
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I smoked while in college; smoking and drinking (coffee in the AM, alcohol in the PM) were how I got through engineering school - intense pressure. I kept smoking until I broke up with my son's mother - that was 15 years later. I decided one day that I would quit, and haven't smoked since.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:21 AM   #13
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it said in the mb profile that intjs are driven to abuse certain substances when put under great amounts of pressure.
It's weird, because i never actually feel pressure. I won't say, "damn, i am NERVOUS," but, if i am writing something i realy care about, i'll drink and smoke weed much more heavily than normal for me until i am satisfied with my work. My thoughts become obsessive, too. It's crappy!
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:35 AM   #14
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  Originally Posted by lollercancer
it said in the mb profile that intjs are driven to abuse certain substances when put under great amounts of pressure.
It's weird, because i never actually feel pressure. *I won't say, "damn, i am NERVOUS," but, if i am writing something i realy care about, i'll drink and smoke weed much more heavily than normal for me until i am satisfied with my work. *My thoughts become obsessive, too. *It's crappy!

Yeah, abuse was imminent. I was in a co-dependant relationship with an alcoholic. It was only after she wrecked my car for the second time and her sister's boyfriend died at 35 from alcohol poisoning that the bell rang in my head and said, "Get out and dry up!"

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Old 09-27-2007, 01:08 PM   #15
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  Originally Posted by lollercancer
it said in the mb profile that intjs are driven to abuse certain substances when put under great amounts of pressure.

I don't have any substances that I'm willing to abuse, so I end up clenching my jaws in my sleep and getting insane migraines when I'm dealing with too much stress. lol Maybe I should take up drinking...it probably hurts less.

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Old 09-27-2007, 01:14 PM   #16
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Alcohol is a chemical solution to a real problem, or so someone said. You can do what you want, but I prefer shooting zombies or something to work my frustrations out. Or writing sometimes works for me too. Not a journal, mind you. Fiction.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:33 PM   #17
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the problem comes in when writing is less for the love of it and more as a means to an end.

the goal is so far off
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:55 PM   #18
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  Originally Posted by qwerty
I do smoke too. The question as to why is simple - even addiction to substances effect intj's.

Why did I begin to smoke? Because there was a question as to why others smoke and a question of what side of life will I not capture if I exclude them from understanding, so in a sense yes it was peer pressure but nobody ever pushed me into it and for that matter nobody ever called me out on it I started because I wanted to know why people smoke. Even today people look at me and see me smoking and say "Qwerty, I didn't know you were a smoker"

Could I correctly say it was curiosity driven then?
And, your name is ACTUALLY Qwerty?

  Originally Posted by Tarrick
You can do what you want, but I prefer shooting zombies or something to work my frustrations out. Or writing sometimes works for me too. Not a journal, mind you. Fiction.

I agree with that one. *WHOOT HEAD SHOT! *WHOOT I SHOT YOU IN THE ASS!


I must say though... maybe it really depends on the generation.
Seems like the older folks of the forum has a higher smoker pop... (though it might just be because we're don't have that many older people here *:-/)
But there's definately a trend in society in general...


My dad was a smoker. He quit when my mother got pregnant.
Some friends I really care about are smokers and it bugs me all the time. In fact as Qwerty mentioned, it really makes me want to try it to see what's so great about smoking. Only thing stopping me is that I really REALLY hate smoking.

Drinking is another matter... alcohol for pleasure, I don't drink to get drunk.

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Old 09-27-2007, 09:38 PM   #19
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I do not.

I never tried, nor did I have any inclination to do so. I didn't even try alcohol until I was fairly old, and even consuming that is rare.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:43 PM   #20
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I smoked cigarettes my entire freshmen year in college, but quit after I saw a cancerous lung displayed at the Body World Exhibit at a nearby museum.

I do still smoke weed, though only to sleep. Not that I believe in excuses, but I basically do it because I have insomnia and the medicine I'm prescribed doesn't work as well as it should.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:51 PM   #21
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  Originally Posted by wolf
I do not.

I never tried, nor did I have any inclination to do so. I didn't even try alcohol until I was fairly old, and even consuming that is rare.

Whenever anyone asks me, I tell them I'm already too inebriated to drink anything...Just imagine what I would say if I lost my last shred of self-restraint.

Will I ever drink? Probably wine sometime, but so far I've never really wanted to.

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Old 09-28-2007, 05:16 AM   #22
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  Originally Posted by Rei
...And, your name is ACTUALLY Qwerty?...

I actually almost chose this username for myself when I signed up!
It's just the first 6 letters across the top of the keyboard.

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Old 09-28-2007, 08:10 AM   #23
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  Originally Posted by The Rose

  Originally Posted by Rei
...And, your name is ACTUALLY Qwerty?...

I actually almost chose this username for myself when I signed up!
It's just the first 6 letters across the top of the keyboard.

oh d'oh
*smacks forhead*
I knew I've seen that somewhere.
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Qwerty is fun to pronounce though.

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Old 09-28-2007, 09:39 AM   #24
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I just wanted to add...
The girl sitting next to me in the lecture I was in just now had probably just finished a cigarette. And oh man... the smell was horrendous. I got this huge headache through the whole lecture and my nostrils are still burning.
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:45 PM   #25
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  Originally Posted by Rei
I just wanted to add...
The girl sitting next to me in the lecture I was in just now had probably just finished a cigarette. And oh man... the smell was horrendous. I got this huge headache through the whole lecture and my nostrils are still burning.

You're in Canuckistan, right? They have some really harsh cigarettes up there. They're so bad that I'll have allergic reactions to the areas where they are smoked...outside. Horrible.

There are few things I hate more than inconsiderate smokers (every damned one of them) and Canadian cigarettes.

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