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Old 08-03-2009, 11:50 AM   #1
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Since some years ago, when I started develop my Fi function, my life became more difficult, I am more tormented and sometimes fearful in choice and action.
What a good life with only Ni-Te!!
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:14 PM   #2
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How did your life become more difficult?
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:29 PM   #3
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  Originally Posted by Night Runner
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How did your life become more difficult?

A lot of things that Fi confusion can lead, especially when somehow unhealthy:
Good/bad belief system, existential choice, remain true in motivation and identity, recognize feeling inside.

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Old 08-03-2009, 12:56 PM   #4
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Fi is not easy, if you have a strong preference for T. I understand.
It's not rational at all, it's shapeless, it's more liquid than solid, sometimes it's warm and cosy, some other is rough and dangerous, and it changes constantly, without warning...

I'm not here to teach, cause I'm still learning how to master mine!
But one thing I can tell you, allow a little extra time, give it some trust, don't spend too much energy fighting against it but float on its surface instead and see where it takes you... sometimes it leads to unexpected, wonderful places.

You have your strong anchor of your T, you will never get lost.

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Old 08-03-2009, 01:35 PM   #5
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  Originally Posted by SimplyOtter
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Fi is not easy, if you have a strong preference for T. I understand.

But one thing I can tell you, allow a little extra time, give it some trust, don't spend too much energy fighting against it but float on its surface instead and see where it takes you... sometimes it leads to unexpected, wonderful places.

Thank you, fellow italian. I will try.

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Old 08-03-2009, 08:47 PM   #6
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Otter is very much on the money, except in one respect.

You don't "master" your Fi. Or rather, that's what INTJs generally try to do and screw up big time.
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She is, however, very much right about "float" and "see where it takes you". Fi isn't to be mastered, but rather it will teach you things about yourself that you do not know. Yes, as an INTJ that seems kind of ... um ... odd ... we already know ourselves all to well. And, well, yes, we do ... but we don't know our feelings that well.

The one thing I see to beware about Fi, is that it can be rather narcissistic. It's about how YOU feel. It's YOUR happiness, YOUR sadness, YOUR loneliness, and so on. It's very biased, and it has none of the Fe concern for others. This may be where you're encountering your perceived troubles with Fi. So, don't indulge it, but do follow it. You'll eventually find oases of internal balance, where you find a healthy way to fulfill your Fi needs.

Let your Fi move you. Let your Te steer you. Let your Ni absorb the experience and learn from it. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:00 PM   #7
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*huggles my Fi*

My Fe is so pitiful that if I couldn't use Fi it would be very, very bad.

Fi shapes my identity and provides meaning to my life because it reflects my core values. It seeks common ground with people. It helps me understand others by putting myself in their shoes. It's the gut feeling I get about someone, it protects me from those who want to use me.

edit: After typing that in I realize that I'd rather give up Te than Fi. Hmmmm, interesting.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:31 PM   #8
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I think that perhaps your inner feelings are trying to communicate something to you. No, they are not easy to understand by someone guided by logic, but, with perseverance, you can incorporate Fi into your life and gain a greater understanding of your own motives and drives.
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:25 PM   #9
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  Originally Posted by BreathofLife
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I think that perhaps your inner feelings are trying to communicate something to you. No, they are not easy to understand by someone guided by logic, but, with perseverance, you can incorporate Fi into your life and gain a greater understanding of your own motives and drives.

Very much. And others - Synamon, jndii, otter - have pointed out it's not something you master, only understand better. It's a different kind of understanding than logic, but ultimately the same understanding - kind of the way saying 2+2=4 is the same thing as saying "Farmer Gray has 2 apples, Farmer White has 2, if Farmer Gray gives Farmer White his apples how many does Farmer White have?" One is more direct, the other is more metaphorical, but they're saying the same thing. Some people are better at understanding one more than the other, but if you learn how to work with both your chances improve.

And the body doesn't lie. Along those lines, your Fi is very much your body; it's impossible to separate what you feel from how you experience the feeling of it. (And unfortunately, very easy to separate what you think from your experience of feeling.) So in some ways, ultimately the Fi might be a more valuable anchor than the Te.

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Old 08-05-2009, 01:57 PM   #10
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My Fi's fine and developed. I suggest chi exercises and bodywork, not existential philosophy.
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