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Who is INTJ's Ideal Partner? ENFP/ENTP? intj and enfp, intj and entp
Old 01-08-2008, 01:34 PM   #26
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  Originally Posted by Laura_Palmer
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I would choose the ENTJ because I think I would like someone just like me but a little more extroverted. I like guys who are decisive, outspoken, and non-conformist. My ex was an INFP (I think) and his indecisiveness and fear of confrontation were things that don't appeal to me at all. I want a guy who isn't afraid to challenge me or anyone else.

Haha, ENTPs/ENFPs are definitely decisive, outspoken, and non-conformist, though they can be flighty. I could imagine an ENFP being amused by an INTJ and trying to make them come out of their shell.

I myself find the types above tiring when interacting with them too much because they have the terrifying combination of being decisive and flighty, and get angry when one of their many visions doesn't work out in reality. The one ENTJ I know works great on a team with me, and we have a kind of mutual respect, but I think that a moderate J INTJ might find an ENXP's antics amusing and charming, while not having to be frustrated by the indecisiveness that naturally characterizes INXPs.

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Old 03-04-2008, 08:21 AM   #27
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I am an INTJ, my husband is an ENTJ, our house is a mess, otherwise everything works
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Old 03-08-2008, 12:43 PM   #28
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The only two girls I've been really attracted to lately were ENFP's. They're some of the few people I really like to be around. I'm not sure why, but I enjoy it when they're chaotic. Perhaps they seem to embody and express parts of what goes on in my mind which I rarely express. It's also relatively easy to connect, because they're contiously expressing ideas which I'm comfortable discussing and playing with. They're relatively quick in talking about their oddities and weaknesses, which (eventually) gets me to open up somewhat. It helps that they're persistent in engaging me. And yeah, their warmth gets to me as well, while I usually dislike the Fe-type of warmth.

Though I never pursued a relationship with these two (for rational reasons), I can certainly image a future with a girl of this type.

ENTP-girls are great fun as well, but the F seems to add an extra dimension.
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:08 PM   #29
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  Originally Posted by Laura_Palmer
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I would choose the ENTJ because I think I would like someone just like me but a little more extroverted. I like guys who are decisive, outspoken, and non-conformist. My ex was an INFP (I think) and his indecisiveness and fear of confrontation were things that don't appeal to me at all. I want a guy who isn't afraid to challenge me or anyone else.

I agree with you, the person I'm talking to know seems to be an ENTJ and I like what I see so far. We compliment each other..
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Old 03-08-2008, 01:09 PM   #30
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"Who is INTJ's Ideal Partner? ENFP/ENTP?"
I'm sorry but why ENFP or ENTP?
Why not ENTJ ? The unique difference would be the I/E part, the other characteristics are the same xNTJ, so I ask why not ENTJ?

Think about it for a second.

INTJ's dominant function is Introverted Intuition, and the auxiliary is Extraverted Thinking. For the ENTP/ENFP the dominant is Extraverted Thinking/Feeling followed by Introverted Intuition. They take our top functions and swap them round (ignoring the possible T/F difference). The ENTJ's dominant function is Extraverted Intuition and the auxiliary is Introverted Thinking.

Personally, I could fall for a beautiful (of value, not necessarily image) INFJ gal any day...

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Old 03-08-2008, 01:16 PM   #31
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I don't know of any ENTP females but ENFP would seem a match to me.

I know my younger sister is and ENFP and I'm guessing her partner might be xNTJ. I think they negate each other very well.
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Old 03-08-2008, 02:58 PM   #32
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All my crushes have been either ENTP or INTJ. But I just can't stand feelers that way. In my mind the feeling stuff is just too pathetic...
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:54 PM   #33
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As you could gather from my other posts, I'd vote ENTP, but OBM says, they can be fickle, not exactly flighty in my experience. But therein lies the problem- my experience with them has been limited to maybe 2 people, and who's to say I've typed them correctly, never mind knowing the percentages of each dimension.

My issue with NFs may be that they could 'read' into what I'm saying because of their N, but react with their F. a) that may not be what I'm saying and b) if it is, I'd feel a little exposed that I couldn't control others' perception of me by what I say. That is, most everyone I know are Ss, and so mostly have to take whatever I say at face value, giving me the ability to hide my emotions/attitudes/thoughts if I so choose. The ENTP I know has only once reacted badly to what he correctly perceives (regardless of what I say) due to his T, and I can hide what I wish (of myself) from my S husband, for the most part.
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Old 03-18-2008, 06:59 PM   #34
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I've often thought that there should be a dating service based on the MBTI. Seems like it'd save a lot of time.


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Old 03-18-2008, 11:09 PM   #35
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Don't know any ENTP's (I think) and I know one ENFP who's cool but has terrible mood swings that get really annoying. I also hate how he's on "everyone's" side and sometimes he'll support me and other times he'll pick on me. I need a friend who stands by me and I have many who do that because I'm so awesome.

I think I get along with ISTJ's the most, I love how they're loyal, fun, and able to comply with my ideas without argument. I'm pretty sure most INTJ's would agree with me on that. Also, INTP's can be pretty cool, and I feel very relaxed around ISTP's for some reason (I think they're nice)

I hate pretty much all E types though.
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:22 AM   #36
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I definitely find ENFP's are usually the perfect match for me. My ENFP best friend and I could talk to hours and hours and have fun no matter where we are whether it's stuck in nasty traffic or surrounded by boring/weird people or situations. I find that ENFP's are INTJ's inside-out, vice versa.

I actually prefer my girlfriends to be E's than I's on the whole since women I's tend to creep me out if they're too introverted but I prefer I's as a romantic interest as long as they're not the creepy-quiet kind of I's. However, I'm curious as to how I'd be attracted to an ENFP male as I'm not sure what they're like.
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:38 AM   #37
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Well I dated an INTP - she was very interesting to talk to, despite lacking much of a formal education (she was a sociopath as well). While we thought similarly, it bothered me that she didn't do anything much in life. Also I helped clean out an apartment she had lived in before and it was... the single most disgusting thing I have ever seen in my life.

I also dated an ISFP, and I really can't stand the touchy-feely ness. She was into astrology! What is funny is that if I believed in psychic powers, she would have them - she had an uncanny ability to appear exactly when she needed to. That said, she was good enough at reading other people to notice when I was holding back a smirk about her beliefs. She also didn't care about my academic work at all.

So I guess when I think of a long-term mate, it is probably somebody TJ - the rest I think I can live with. While I prefer introverts, I think it INTJ and ISTJ would make an optimal family unit. They could instruct children in just about any subject, and produce a team of academic elites... and have the awesomest board game nights ever.
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:31 AM   #38
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Be careful about throwing around terms like sociopath, there is a LOT of misunderstanding about them, yet very specific criteria to be met before they are categorized as such.





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I think I get along with ISTJ's the most, I love how they're loyal, fun, and able to comply with my ideas without argument. I'm pretty sure most INTJ's would agree with me on that.

Arggggh! Not ISTJs! While they've got a good head on their shoulders, they are firm, solid and immovable as a rock about tradition and whatever they think is best! Sure, they're able to talk about planning into the future and current events, but not necessarily much theory. They're decent to get along with, but I hate their oftimes parental attitude.

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Old 03-19-2008, 08:19 AM   #39
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Besides INTJ, which I'm clearly interested in, I also find myself drawn to ENTJ's and ISTJ's.

My wife is an ISTJ. My best friend is an INTJ, and his wife is an ISTJ. Our wives are best friends.

I was introduced to my wife by a friend of 15+ years. Second marriage (first one was to an ENFP/J; can you say DISASTER?).

I had no intention of getting married when I met her. She is AWESOME and OH SO HOT!!!!

She understands my particular brand of crazy, and more importantly, has an uncanny way of orchestrating my return from the Stratosphere when I "Go there."

She is OH SO HOT!!!

She is logical, more so than me from time to time(those of you INTJ males that may not have reached your 35th year on the planet may not understand the weight of that statement)!

She is OH SO HOT!!!

Her way of thinking helps me to organize my thoughts (she is extremely organized). She doesn't mind listening while I work things out, AND she makes significant, meaningful contributions to the conversation.

Did I mention that she is OH SO HOT???!!!

ISTJ female is the bomb for an INTJ male... or at least this one.

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Old 03-19-2008, 09:46 AM   #40
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If you are looking for balance and the perfect tag team I would go with the compliment, ESFP...(according to Socionics anyway) be warned though I think they might have ESP


What exactly are you refering to? I am curious, my g/f (and intj) says I can read her so well, to the point she doesn't tell me things because she assume I just know. Makes for some aggrevating scenerios.

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Old 03-20-2008, 05:54 AM   #41
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The only two girls I've been really attracted to lately were ENFP's.

Recently, I'm attracted to ENTPs and ESTPs. Not sure why. I was never attracted to an 'F' type though. It could be due to the fact that my male friends are either ENTP or ESTP. From what I can discern, two of my closer male friends are ENTP and two of them are ESTP. All great people and I wouldn't choose one over another. We, of course, don't go around saying: "Oh, he/she's my friend", but I think we can find pleasure in bickering and putting the other down. We never go 'over the line' (in fact, we go out of our way to start an argument. Pure joy, outwitting each other) and we somehow like it when were were 'insulted', and our arguments would usually end up with one or all of us in a fit of hysterics, choking from laughter. I guess that's what draws me to them; they're outgoing, witty, rational, intellectual and exciting. A laugh, really.

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Old 03-20-2008, 08:14 AM   #42
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See, me too! That's exactly the relationship I love with ENTPs- my friends always were so cranky about our bickering "You two fight like an old married couple"- and we loved it!
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:32 AM   #43
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My g/f in an intj, and I am an ExFP - the s and n are pretty close, and flip flop depending on my mood.

As to the relationship, there is a lot of plus'. We both hate dealing with lazy or stupid people, we both get annoyed with slow people in our way. We have a lot of the same hobbies and interests. I like the fact that she is not overly needy and depamnding, doesn't tell me what to do. I like the fact that she doesn't ask for help doing things she can easily do. I love her intelligence and the fact that she can hold a conversation about a range of topics.

There are a lot of minus' also, and I think in the end will probably kill the relationship for me. I can't stand the fact she needs so much alone time. I think she'd be perfectly happy if we saw each other 1-2 times a week. It drives me crazy when I try to hold her hand in public she pulls away from me. I wish the hell just once she'd wear something other than black. While I like that she can be out the door without 2 hours of prep time, a little makeup etc to remind me she's a girl would be nice. The real killer for me is her lack of communication. The manor in which she says things makes her seem as though she's hiding something.
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:47 PM   #44
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My best friend is an ENFP who thinks he is an INFP. LOL.

We compliment each other in almost every way. It is pretty cool. Sometimes I get annoyed at his impulsiveness, and sometimes he gets hurt by my insensitivity, but we deal with each other.
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:10 PM   #45
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I'm an ENTP dating an INTJ.

I agree with what was said previously, a little F would help out at times but my obsessive workaholicism (which occurs in spurts like a gran mal seizure) doesn't support emotional mates. They start thinking that I'm cheating on them (and if work is cheating then yes, guilty as charged) or think that I'm wasting my energy (and if goofing off is wasting my energy, well, you get the picture).

I really got into an INFJ but that's kind of unrelated.

I would say ENFP or ISTJ for the INTJ.
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:28 PM   #46
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The following is about male-female romantic relationhips according to my experience. ENTPs are entertaining to talk to, but I've never been interested romantically in them. I would not want to live with an ENFP. They are ok mentally, but their life is a mess. I can't connect to S types profoundly. I was interested in INT/FJs, but there was too much conflict. It must have been a control/competition thing. I tend to develop crushes on INTPs and INFPs, mostly on the latter ones. I connect to INTPs rationally, but what next? I connect to INFPs emotionally rather quickly, but I don't know how it works in the long run...
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:47 PM   #47
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well i'm married to an Esfj,whom i love, but xNTx's make more sense to me and i make more sense to them. go figure.
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:15 PM   #48
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Well, only two of my close friends have taken the test so far, one came out ENTP and the other ENFP.

Not sure about my other friends though.





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I would also prefer girls who are E's as well. Having an I girlfriend would be awkward.
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:49 PM   #49
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One of my friends is an INTJ, and I sometimes think I overwhelm him when we work together, lol.

So if you can handle extroverted intuition, I think either ENFP or ENTP could work out very well.

But ultimately there are way bigger factors than type.
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:45 PM   #50
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I'm trying to find out my girlfriends type, but I think I'd go well with an INFJ..
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