Tired of being an INTJ

**evoviiigsr** · 05-01-2009, 07:25 AM

I'm tired of seeing what others don't see. Knowing what others don't know. Knowing what I shouldn't know. Knowing what I don't want to know. Knowing what will happen before it happens. I just want to be naiive again. I'm tired of being right, especially about things that I don't want to be right about. Sick of always traveling the road less traveled by.

My openmindedness and indeliberate quest for the truth is really becoming a burden..I mean I'm a pretty normal guy in most aspects and function well socially, but many times it's hard or worthless to even express many of my thoughts to others because they simply don't think as objectively and out of the box that I do, so I'm hoping that some INTJs will know how I feel!

**Antagonist** · 05-01-2009, 08:51 AM

Before I learned about MBTI I agreed with you 100%, but once I found out there was nothing wrong with me and that I was just different from the norm, I learned to embrace it. Sure, sometimes I do revert back to these old feelings, but if you view being an INTJ as more of a gift than a burden, you may start to appreciate it more.

**Cincinnatus** · 05-01-2009, 08:55 AM

No, I will never tire of being an INTJ. I have my problems interacting and communicating with people, however I would rather be the man on the mountain when a levee breaks.

**Vagrant** · 05-01-2009, 09:29 AM

I only tire of being INTJ in social scenarios.

I think the thing here is that you don't want to be different. You want a fairly normal life, like everybody else? Here's where your INTJ insight should cue in again -- there is no "normal" life, regardless of your type. Everybody presents a mask, not just us. The truth is, with insight about your type, you can learn to improve yourself.

**evoviiigsr** · 05-01-2009, 10:16 AM

Honestly I've been there done that...I love being an INTJ..waking up in the morning feeling superior to most of the world is a pretty good feeling, I didn't mean to sound unappreciative...I didn't mean to imply that I want to be any other type..my insights have just became extreme recently I guess and it's somewhat frustrating and I just needed to vent...

for example, using sound economic reasoning I predicted YEARS ago with confidence that the economy will crash HARD...it's finally just starting to happen (sorry if I'm the bearer of bad news on that one) but most of the world will deny it until it is staring them directly in the face...kind of frustrating to be 5 years ahead of the rest of the world

I can also predict outcomes of important football games down to the T based on my completely logical theory of Vegas manipulation...yet everyone else is oblivious to what is going on...I guess I can't complain too much about this since it wins me a lot of money haha

And now this swine flu...let's just say something is fishy about it..

I guess I'm just saying that it'd be a little less stressful if I honestly believed that the economy will soon rise thanks to Obama AKA Lord Almighty with healing powers, that the most talented team wins the game, and that everything adds up with this whole pandemic crap

**music221** · 05-01-2009, 12:22 PM

You should be happy and appreciate who you are. You are fortunate to be part of a select group of individuals. Embrace it and the rest will fall into place. If you're having trouble communicating ideas to people try to start it off small and feed the little bits into their feeble minds until they get it. It can quite frustrating... but learn patience from it and continue feeding the bits until they see the picture. I know at times the world is full of morons and we're constantly surrounded by them but we have to cohabitate the same planet.

**True Rune** · 05-01-2009, 12:33 PM

I did brood about it a little yesterday, not so much that I'm INTJ, but that others will never understand me or even want or know how to. But, I am who I am..I can do this.

I don't mind being different. Not better, not worse, just different.

**4sakentears** · 05-01-2009, 01:41 PM

I like being an INTJ, however sometimes I wish I could think less and feel more instead of just pointing the misconceptions, prejudices and hypocrisies in other people.

I sometimes wish I could just go with the stream instead of trying to question everything and feeling bad because I can't change people for the better.

**Henry** · 05-01-2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by evoviiigsr
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I'm tired of seeing what others don't see. Knowing what others don't know. Knowing what I shouldn't know. Knowing what I don't want to know. Knowing what will happen before it happens. I just want to be naiive again. I'm tired of being right, especially about things that I don't want to be right about. Sick of always traveling the road less traveled by.

My openmindedness and indeliberate quest for the truth is really becoming a burden..I mean I'm a pretty normal guy in most aspects and function well socially, but many times it's hard or worthless to even express many of my thoughts to others because they simply don't think as objectively and out of the box that I do, so I'm hoping that some INTJs will know how I feel!

I suck at going with the flow and sitting with bullshitting to maintain important professional relationships, both of which are probably fairly common for INTJs and both of which I wish I could change.

**SmileyMan** · 05-01-2009, 04:12 PM

Ugh. A lot of arrogance in this thread.

Chemist · 05-01-2009, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by evoviiigsr
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I'm tired of seeing what others don't see. Knowing what others don't know. Knowing what I shouldn't know. Knowing what I don't want to know. Knowing what will happen before it happens. I just want to be naiive again. I'm tired of being right, especially about things that I don't want to be right about. Sick of always traveling the road less traveled by.

My openmindedness and indeliberate quest for the truth is really becoming a burden..I mean I'm a pretty normal guy in most aspects and function well socially, but many times it's hard or worthless to even express many of my thoughts to others because they simply don't think as objectively and out of the box that I do, so I'm hoping that some INTJs will know how I feel!

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm in grad school now surrounded by other scientists and I still feel the same way. Funny I thought it would go away once I finally found people like me. I'm new to the MBTI thing but I'm starting to think that many scientists are actually ISTJs from what I can tell.

**JohnDoe** · 05-01-2009, 05:42 PM

	Originally Posted by Chemist To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Yeah I know what you mean. I'm in grad school now surrounded by other scientists and I still feel the same way. Funny I thought it would go away once I finally found people like me. I'm new to the MBTI thing but I'm starting to think that many scientists are actually ISTJs from what I can tell.

No. Its that education trains the intuition out of you.

Chemist · 05-01-2009, 05:46 PM

	Originally Posted by 4sakentears To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I like being an INTJ, however sometimes I wish I could think less and feel more instead of just pointing the misconceptions, prejudices and hypocrisies in other people. I sometimes wish I could just go with the stream instead of trying to question everything and feeling bad because I can't change people for the better.

I'm curious why you feel the need to point out the shortcomings that you perceive in others...

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	Originally Posted by JohnDoe To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	No. Its that education trains the intuition out of you.

They certainly do try. I've found that this is something that frustrates my PI about me on a daily basis...

**Undead Bonzi** · 05-01-2009, 06:12 PM

I personally am glad that I’m not an INTJ. It is much more fun to study martyr complexes rather than to participate in them.

**llBradll** · 05-01-2009, 06:32 PM

The only thing I don't like is having very few connections with people. While I'm introverted, I enjoy being around others. I am taking steps to improve this like learning how to communicate with emotion, rather than logic. I'm uncertain as to whether this will pay off much in the end though.

Chemist · 05-01-2009, 06:41 PM

	Originally Posted by Undead Bonzi To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I personally am glad that I’m not an INTJ. It is much more fun to study martyr complexes rather than to participate in them.

I find it interesting that you associate being an INTJ with being a martyr. I have to admit that on occasion I've felt like an alien... and even that is relative to my surroundings...
but martyr?.. nope...

I doubt the majority of these posts are bordering martydom... I think at some point it is natural to half-heartedly wish or desire alternative traits if certain aspects of one's personality frequently prove to be somewhat troublesome when attempting to exist in the varying situations associated with life in the real world...

and like I said before I'm new to this MBTI thing but... personally, I've yet to find the ideal personality type.

There are certain situations where being an INTJ can be difficult at best... IMO there are times when being an INTJ is an advantage...
depending on how much time one spends in either of the aforementioned situations he or she may feel very unlucky to be an INTJ or very lucky to be one...

Storm · 05-01-2009, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by evoviiigsr
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I'm tired of seeing what others don't see. Knowing what others don't know. Knowing what I shouldn't know. Knowing what I don't want to know. Knowing what will happen before it happens. I just want to be naiive again. I'm tired of being right, especially about things that I don't want to be right about. Sick of always traveling the road less traveled by.

My openmindedness and indeliberate quest for the truth is really becoming a burden..I mean I'm a pretty normal guy in most aspects and function well socially, but many times it's hard or worthless to even express many of my thoughts to others because they simply don't think as objectively and out of the box that I do, so I'm hoping that some INTJs will know how I feel!

	Originally Posted by Undead Bonzi To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I personally am glad that I’m not an INTJ. It is much more fun to study martyr complexes rather than to participate in them.

The INFJs are the martyrs, not us. We're just plain arrogant (see above).

Chemist · 05-01-2009, 06:46 PM

	Originally Posted by llBradll To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	The only thing I don't like is having very few connections with people. While I'm introverted, I enjoy being around others. I am taking steps to improve this like learning how to communicate with emotion, rather than logic. I'm uncertain as to whether this will pay off much in the end though.

Me too... let me know how that works out for you... I'm quite certain that I will fail at it.

**llBradll** · 05-01-2009, 06:54 PM

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	Me too... let me know how that works out for you... I'm quite certain that I will fail at it.

The newest thing I've been learning is that we need to improve peoples moods more to make them like us rather than pushing our intelligence on them, and hoping they will be dazzled.
Being rational bores most people, so we need to find different ways to get to different people.

**Xanthippe** · 05-01-2009, 06:55 PM

I don't mind it that much. I'm almost never bored, because I always have my own thoughts.

I do struggle in social situations, and flirtation is a royal nightmare. I envy and admire those who are talented at small talk, and those who manage to keep up with the volume of Saturday Night Live skits, Youtube videos, TV shows and mainstream bands that fill 'normal' conversations. Also, I've been working on my filter, since I tend to say blunt or sarcastic things that accidentally hurt others.

More rarely, I end up predicting something that surprises non-INTJs. (Oddly enough, this happens most often in social situations; the dynamics seem very obvious to me because I am detached from them.) This makes things awkward if I'm directly involved in the situation, but it doesn't bother me otherwise.

Frankly, being an INTJ is lonely and difficult at times, but I wouldn't change it for the world.

ETA: Me too on the whole being less know-it-all-ish in public thing. It's a challenge, but 90% of the people I know seem to be E*F*s.

Chemist · 05-01-2009, 07:10 PM

	Originally Posted by llBradll To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	The newest thing I've been learning is that we need to improve peoples moods more to make them like us rather than pushing our intelligence on them, and hoping they will be dazzled. Being rational bores most people, so we need to find different ways to get to different people.

I definitely agree with you about that.

I've really been trying to dial it back whenever people strike up conversations with me... I never mean to get going down the hardcore (theoretical / philosophical) road but eventually it always happens.

Rudy · 05-01-2009, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by evoviiigsr
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I'm tired of seeing what others don't see. Knowing what others don't know. Knowing what I shouldn't know. Knowing what I don't want to know. Knowing what will happen before it happens. I just want to be naiive again. I'm tired of being right, especially about things that I don't want to be right about. Sick of always traveling the road less traveled by.

My openmindedness and indeliberate quest for the truth is really becoming a burden..I mean I'm a pretty normal guy in most aspects and function well socially, but many times it's hard or worthless to even express many of my thoughts to others because they simply don't think as objectively and out of the box that I do, so I'm hoping that some INTJs will know how I feel!

I get pretty tired of being an INTJ sometimes. Like when I have to be grouped with people who honestly think they are superior to the vast majority of humanity because they think in a certain way, or who have deluded themselves into thinking that they have some quasi-supernatural prescience about the world, or who are blind to their own failings.

Things like that.

**eternaltriangle** · 05-01-2009, 08:28 PM

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	I get pretty tired of being an INTJ sometimes. Like when I have to be grouped with people who honestly think they are superior than the vast majority of humanity because they think in a certain way, or who have deluded themselves into thinking that they have some quasi-supernatural prescience about the world, or who are blind to their own failings. Things like that.

Your opinion is different mine so you are really an S.

**amyleanne** · 05-01-2009, 08:52 PM

Being an INTJ has its advantages but I do often find myself wishing I was more emotional/less calculating. My ENTP boyfriend will sometimes say things like "I wish I were smart like you" but more often than not he is disgusted with me because I am "cold, reserved, and robotic." My ESFP cousin will get very upset because she "can't understand how to make Leanne excited" and I genuinely wish I could feign normalcy to put them at ease. I hate that I can't provide something that the people I love most seem to need from me.

The worst thing about being an INTJ in a non-INTJ world is that others don't seem to understand the point of arguing. I'll calmly try to make my mother understand something and she will immediately get offended and throw back an insult rather than refute my claim. I may very well not always be right, but how will I ever know it if no one bothers to challenge what I actually say?

**llBradll** · 05-01-2009, 08:56 PM

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	The worst thing about being an INTJ in a non-INTJ world is that others don't seem to understand the point of arguing. I'll try to calmly try to make my mother understand something and she will immediately get offended and throw back an insult rather than refute my claim. I may very well not always be right, but how will I ever know it if no one bothers to challenge what I actually say?

I hate how people just see arguments as something that they have to win.

05-01-2009, 07:25 AM	#1
evoviiigsr Member [02%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 83	I'm tired of seeing what others don't see. Knowing what others don't know. Knowing what I shouldn't know. Knowing what I don't want to know. Knowing what will happen before it happens. I just want to be naiive again. I'm tired of being right, especially about things that I don't want to be right about. Sick of always traveling the road less traveled by. My openmindedness and indeliberate quest for the truth is really becoming a burden..I mean I'm a pretty normal guy in most aspects and function well socially, but many times it's hard or worthless to even express many of my thoughts to others because they simply don't think as objectively and out of the box that I do, so I'm hoping that some INTJs will know how I feel!
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05-01-2009, 08:51 AM	#2
Antagonist Member [05%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 206	Before I learned about MBTI I agreed with you 100%, but once I found out there was nothing wrong with me and that I was just different from the norm, I learned to embrace it. Sure, sometimes I do revert back to these old feelings, but if you view being an INTJ as more of a gift than a burden, you may start to appreciate it more.
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05-01-2009, 08:55 AM	#3
Cincinnatus Core Member [178%] MBTI: ENTJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 7,144	No, I will never tire of being an INTJ. I have my problems interacting and communicating with people, however I would rather be the man on the mountain when a levee breaks.
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05-01-2009, 09:29 AM	#4
Vagrant Core Member [155%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,225	I only tire of being INTJ in social scenarios. I think the thing here is that you don't want to be different. You want a fairly normal life, like everybody else? Here's where your INTJ insight should cue in again -- there is no "normal" life, regardless of your type. Everybody presents a mask, not just us. The truth is, with insight about your type, you can learn to improve yourself.
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05-01-2009, 10:16 AM	#5
evoviiigsr Member [02%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 83	Honestly I've been there done that...I love being an INTJ..waking up in the morning feeling superior to most of the world is a pretty good feeling, I didn't mean to sound unappreciative...I didn't mean to imply that I want to be any other type..my insights have just became extreme recently I guess and it's somewhat frustrating and I just needed to vent... for example, using sound economic reasoning I predicted YEARS ago with confidence that the economy will crash HARD...it's finally just starting to happen (sorry if I'm the bearer of bad news on that one) but most of the world will deny it until it is staring them directly in the face...kind of frustrating to be 5 years ahead of the rest of the world I can also predict outcomes of important football games down to the T based on my completely logical theory of Vegas manipulation...yet everyone else is oblivious to what is going on...I guess I can't complain too much about this since it wins me a lot of money haha And now this swine flu...let's just say something is fishy about it.. I guess I'm just saying that it'd be a little less stressful if I honestly believed that the economy will soon rise thanks to Obama AKA Lord Almighty with healing powers, that the most talented team wins the game, and that everything adds up with this whole pandemic crap
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05-01-2009, 12:22 PM	#6
music221 Member [46%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,848	You should be happy and appreciate who you are. You are fortunate to be part of a select group of individuals. Embrace it and the rest will fall into place. If you're having trouble communicating ideas to people try to start it off small and feed the little bits into their feeble minds until they get it. It can quite frustrating... but learn patience from it and continue feeding the bits until they see the picture. I know at times the world is full of morons and we're constantly surrounded by them but we have to cohabitate the same planet.
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05-01-2009, 12:33 PM	#7
True Rune Core Member [200%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8,028	I did brood about it a little yesterday, not so much that I'm INTJ, but that others will never understand me or even want or know how to. But, I am who I am..I can do this. I don't mind being different. Not better, not worse, just different. Last edited by True Rune; 05-01-2009 at 06:08 PM.
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05-01-2009, 01:41 PM	#8
4sakentears New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 62	I like being an INTJ, however sometimes I wish I could think less and feel more instead of just pointing the misconceptions, prejudices and hypocrisies in other people. I sometimes wish I could just go with the stream instead of trying to question everything and feeling bad because I can't change people for the better.
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05-01-2009, 04:12 PM	#10
SmileyMan Member [08%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 331	Ugh. A lot of arrogance in this thread.
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05-01-2009, 06:12 PM	#14
Undead Bonzi Member [44%] MBTI: ESFP Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,765	I personally am glad that I’m not an INTJ. It is much more fun to study martyr complexes rather than to participate in them.
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05-01-2009, 06:32 PM	#15
llBradll Veteran Member [73%] MBTI: XNTj Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,920	The only thing I don't like is having very few connections with people. While I'm introverted, I enjoy being around others. I am taking steps to improve this like learning how to communicate with emotion, rather than logic. I'm uncertain as to whether this will pay off much in the end though.
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05-01-2009, 06:55 PM	#20
Xanthippe Member [15%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 603	I don't mind it that much. I'm almost never bored, because I always have my own thoughts. I do struggle in social situations, and flirtation is a royal nightmare. I envy and admire those who are talented at small talk, and those who manage to keep up with the volume of Saturday Night Live skits, Youtube videos, TV shows and mainstream bands that fill 'normal' conversations. Also, I've been working on my filter, since I tend to say blunt or sarcastic things that accidentally hurt others. More rarely, I end up predicting something that surprises non-INTJs. (Oddly enough, this happens most often in social situations; the dynamics seem very obvious to me because I am detached from them.) This makes things awkward if I'm directly involved in the situation, but it doesn't bother me otherwise. Frankly, being an INTJ is lonely and difficult at times, but I wouldn't change it for the world. ETA: Me too on the whole being less know-it-all-ish in public thing. It's a challenge, but 90% of the people I know seem to be EFs.
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05-01-2009, 08:52 PM	#24
amyleanne Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 110	Being an INTJ has its advantages but I do often find myself wishing I was more emotional/less calculating. My ENTP boyfriend will sometimes say things like "I wish I were smart like you" but more often than not he is disgusted with me because I am "cold, reserved, and robotic." My ESFP cousin will get very upset because she "can't understand how to make Leanne excited" and I genuinely wish I could feign normalcy to put them at ease. I hate that I can't provide something that the people I love most seem to need from me. The worst thing about being an INTJ in a non-INTJ world is that others don't seem to understand the point of arguing. I'll calmly try to make my mother understand something and she will immediately get offended and throw back an insult rather than refute my claim. I may very well not always be right, but how will I ever know it if no one bothers to challenge what I actually say?
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