April 2, 2009- A Great Day in Sports...

**LaoTzu** · 04-02-2009, 07:30 PM

Jay Cutler goes to the Bears.... wOOt wOOt!

The Habs crush... well, they crushed at least
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Cito Gaston (of all people) called Roger Clemens an Asshole in the media!!

Ahhh.... such a great day
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**DewFuel** · 04-02-2009, 08:20 PM

bout time we get a quarterback.

i wanna see orton and simms battle it out in the broncos.

maybe if our defense bucks up this season, we can easily win division.

**LaoTzu** · 04-02-2009, 08:24 PM

Hell...someone egghead on TV already predicted tops in the NFC !lol!

A lil' too presumptuous , even for me
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But damn.... been over 20 years since they had a decent QB. And the D is getting a bit ... er..... old?
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Nice they finally going to take a shot. A real shot, at winning it all.

(that , and what's called 'the easiest schedule in the NFL' next year :P )

**DewFuel** · 04-02-2009, 08:43 PM

LOL i just checked the schedule...

that is damn right embarrassing if you can't win 12 out of that.

i mean you got basically 6 free wins in division as it is.

**Mozzes** · 04-02-2009, 09:22 PM

Cutler is still a bit overrated. Yes, he made the pro bowl but we all know that's just a popularity contest. He was, at most, the 6th best quarterback in the AFC last year behind Cassel, Pennington, Manning, Rivers and Roethlisberger and if he could ever stay healthy I'd put Shaub ahead of Cutler too. Bottom line is that Cutler turned the ball over a lot and has never come through in clutch situation (for example, last season's final game against the Chargers...)

The Bears gave up a lot of picks to get him and even if Hester develops into a decent wide receiver they still need to get a number 1 guy.

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	Originally Posted by LaoTzu To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	(that , and what's called 'the easiest schedule in the NFL' next year :P )

That can be misleading. They have 7 games next year against playoff teams not to mention the 49ers looked much better after Singletary took over coaching and the Bengals will have Carson Palmer back. Schedule strength is calculated based on opponents winning percentage from the previous year so of course it's going to be artificially deflated since they play the 0-16 Lions twice.

**BlackOp** · 04-02-2009, 10:45 PM

I grew up a Chiefs fan....so this is a win/win for me. I live in Chicago and they have never had a QB worth a shit...so painfully boring to watch. Pioli has a charmed way about him....getting Cassel and in doing so removing Cutler from the AFCW. Keeping him from the Vikings and Lions was big too....

**INTJoe** · 04-03-2009, 11:48 AM

I think the Bearce gave up too much to get him though. Not way too much, but too much.

There is a ridiculously long thread on another forum I read about this. 65% think the Bears got the better end of the deal. Some say getting a top 6-ish QB who is 26 years old is worth trading all 7 picks away in one year. I disagree, due to variance.

Even though a young good QB is absurdly valuable, he is still just 1 person who can get injured or forget how to play the position. There is far less risk in 7 different humans.

I'm also worried about the fact that Cutler will play 9 games a year in cold, windy weather. (8 home games + 1 in Green Bay). While Denver gets cold, I don't think it's anything like the upper Midwest combo of coldness + windiness. Some say his strong arm is enough to cut through the wind. We'll see.

**DewFuel** · 04-03-2009, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by INTJoe
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I think the Bearce gave up too much to get him though. Not way too much, but too much.

There is a ridiculously long thread on another forum I read about this. 65% think the Bears got the better end of the deal. Some say getting a top 6-ish QB who is 26 years old is worth trading all 7 picks away in one year. I disagree, due to variance.

Even though a young good QB is absurdly valuable, he is still just 1 person who can get injured or forget how to play the position. There is far less risk in 7 different humans.

I'm also worried about the fact that Cutler will play 9 games a year in cold, windy weather. (8 home games + 1 in Green Bay). While Denver gets cold, I don't think it's anything like the upper Midwest combo of coldness + windiness. Some say his strong arm is enough to cut through the wind. We'll see.

its a mile high, so i think the winds might be comparable?

i think it gets fairly cold in denver.

but i agree with you, giving up so many picks is pretty ridiculous. but the bears have been troubled with a leader for the team. it might be a good change and give the whole team a morale boost. sort of like with what happened to the dolphins & pennington last year.

**Cthulhu** · 04-03-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mozzes
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Cutler is still a bit overrated. Yes, he made the pro bowl but we all know that's just a popularity contest. He was, at most, the 6th best quarterback in the AFC last year behind Cassel, Pennington, Manning, Rivers and Roethlisberger and if he could ever stay healthy I'd put Shaub ahead of Cutler too. Bottom line is that Cutler turned the ball over a lot and has never come through in clutch situation (for example, last season's final game against the Chargers...)

I agree. The guy has a strong arm but beyond that I just don't see what the big deal is.

**INTJoe** · 04-03-2009, 06:34 PM

Cutler also had a ridiculously good LT last year in Ryan Clady.

Supposedly he drinks and parties a lot with Type 1 diabetes, which may hamper his career. Although I think Brett Michels did this while fronting Poison so maybe it won't.

**Cthulhu** · 04-05-2009, 09:02 AM

	Originally Posted by INTJoe To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Cutler also had a ridiculously good LT last year in Ryan Clady.

As a former defensive tackle, I'm programmed to hate all offensive linemen and to view quarterbacks as pretty boys who should be sacked on every play. Clady's a great young LT, though, and that makes a big difference in how good a QB seems to be. Cutler may not look so good when he has half a second less protection on his blind side.

**Lateralus** · 04-08-2009, 01:22 AM

Vikes will take the central!

I do like Cutler a lot and wish the Vikes woulda got him. They did pay a high price to get him but if I were the Vikes GM I woulda done the same deal throwing in TJax instead of Orton, and hopefully coulda thrown in Childress in the deal for a pack of 6 single ply toliet rolls. To get a potential franchise QB the price was worth it in my mind. Jay wont put up numbers in the windy city so he goes way down the rankings in fantasy, outside the top 10.

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04-02-2009, 08:20 PM	#2
DewFuel Member [19%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 761	bout time we get a quarterback. i wanna see orton and simms battle it out in the broncos. maybe if our defense bucks up this season, we can easily win division.
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04-02-2009, 08:24 PM	#3
LaoTzu Core Member [106%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4,263	Hell...someone egghead on TV already predicted tops in the NFC !lol! A lil' too presumptuous , even for me To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. But damn.... been over 20 years since they had a decent QB. And the D is getting a bit ... er..... old? To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Nice they finally going to take a shot. A real shot, at winning it all. (that , and what's called 'the easiest schedule in the NFL' next year :P )
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04-02-2009, 08:43 PM	#4
DewFuel Member [19%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 761	LOL i just checked the schedule... that is damn right embarrassing if you can't win 12 out of that. i mean you got basically 6 free wins in division as it is.
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04-02-2009, 10:45 PM	#6
BlackOp Veteran Member [78%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,154	I grew up a Chiefs fan....so this is a win/win for me. I live in Chicago and they have never had a QB worth a shit...so painfully boring to watch. Pioli has a charmed way about him....getting Cassel and in doing so removing Cutler from the AFCW. Keeping him from the Vikings and Lions was big too....
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04-03-2009, 11:48 AM	#7
INTJoe Veteran Member [75%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,009	I think the Bearce gave up too much to get him though. Not way too much, but too much. There is a ridiculously long thread on another forum I read about this. 65% think the Bears got the better end of the deal. Some say getting a top 6-ish QB who is 26 years old is worth trading all 7 picks away in one year. I disagree, due to variance. Even though a young good QB is absurdly valuable, he is still just 1 person who can get injured or forget how to play the position. There is far less risk in 7 different humans. I'm also worried about the fact that Cutler will play 9 games a year in cold, windy weather. (8 home games + 1 in Green Bay). While Denver gets cold, I don't think it's anything like the upper Midwest combo of coldness + windiness. Some say his strong arm is enough to cut through the wind. We'll see.
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04-03-2009, 06:34 PM	#10
INTJoe Veteran Member [75%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,009	Cutler also had a ridiculously good LT last year in Ryan Clady. Supposedly he drinks and parties a lot with Type 1 diabetes, which may hamper his career. Although I think Brett Michels did this while fronting Poison so maybe it won't.
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04-08-2009, 01:22 AM	#12
Lateralus New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 15	Vikes will take the central! I do like Cutler a lot and wish the Vikes woulda got him. They did pay a high price to get him but if I were the Vikes GM I woulda done the same deal throwing in TJax instead of Orton, and hopefully coulda thrown in Childress in the deal for a pack of 6 single ply toliet rolls. To get a potential franchise QB the price was worth it in my mind. Jay wont put up numbers in the windy city so he goes way down the rankings in fantasy, outside the top 10.
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