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Old 02-22-2009, 12:00 PM   #1
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There's a lot of - crap - about ruling the world on this forum, but the only reason I can begin to care about for ruling the world is to change things... So what would you change? And how would you implement your change?
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:55 PM   #2
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I'd wipe out the human race..... no.... but seriously.... yes.... well, maybe.
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:57 PM   #3
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What are the parameters of my powers, here? I need more details. Can I tell anyone to do anything, and they'll do it? I assume this is limited to what is actually possible?
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:08 PM   #4
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What are the parameters of my powers, here? I need more details. Can I tell anyone to do anything, and they'll do it? I assume this is limited to what is actually possible?

You have no super powers - the question is addressed to those who write of taking over the world - you must have something you intend to accomplish - what is it?

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Old 02-22-2009, 07:23 PM   #5
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I'd like to implement a one child policy for all countries - I think a drastic reduction in the world population would change a lot of things for the better. I'd also like to get rid of all the legislation which protects idiots from harming/killing themselves - a few less morons in the gene pool cannot be a bad thing (anyone else think the human race has already peaked and is now devolving?). And equality between genders in all countries.

To help reduce the population and improve the gene pool, violent and repeat offenders would be executed.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:17 PM   #6
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I keep my world domination plans for when i need to use them its all about being prepared for ANYTHING and i know im not sharing my plans for lunar base to be HQ for my world takeover.

im just really waiting for a good reason to use these said plans. till then ill have fun toying with the locals.
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:33 PM   #7
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  Originally Posted by Brittle
I'd like to implement a one child policy for all countries - I think a drastic reduction in the world population would change a lot of things for the better. I'd also like to get rid of all the legislation which protects idiots from harming/killing themselves - a few less morons in the gene pool cannot be a bad thing (anyone else think the human race has already peaked and is now devolving?). And equality between genders in all countries.

To help reduce the population and improve the gene pool, violent and repeat offenders would be executed.

How People's Republic of China meets the Third Reich of you.
Charming, really.

I would prefer a world that had a humanist spirit, with specific emphasis on a strong respect for human rights. I would encourage a pragmatic approach to solving problems (financial crisis, ecological preservation, energy efficiency). While I would encourage science heartily, I would stress an anti-reductionist stance in terms of philosophy. I would promote global health care, which includes birth control and downsizing population, naturally.
My methods would include incentives for keeping a small family unit (none of that "the more kids you have, the more money you could get back on taxes" nonsense) and lowering the cost of college education considerably, while maintaining a standard of excellence. I think it would be easier with a smaller population and fewer governing bodies to go through to achieve the aforementioned ends.
/end naive envisioning.
*returns to being a cynic*

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Old 02-22-2009, 10:26 PM   #8
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Crocs and velour sweatpants with writing across the rear would forever be banned under penalty of ... well ... I would have thought that was a penalty...
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Old 02-22-2009, 10:57 PM   #9
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If I had super powers, I doubt I`d care about much, to be completely honest. I`d probably pull an Iron Man and save some oppressed or impoverished people. Might do some things for my own self interest as well.. I doubt I`d do much other than that, though.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:21 PM   #10
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Sustainable, clean energy and education are two areas I would target to change the world. The first is for short-term growth, and the second is for long-term progress. I would implement both through investment of money, time, and energy in varying doses.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:42 PM   #11
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  Originally Posted by Brittle
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I'd like to implement a one child policy for all countries - I think a drastic reduction in the world population would change a lot of things for the better. I'd also like to get rid of all the legislation which protects idiots from harming/killing themselves - a few less morons in the gene pool cannot be a bad thing (anyone else think the human race has already peaked and is now devolving?). And equality between genders in all countries.

To help reduce the population and improve the gene pool, violent and repeat offenders would be executed.


War reduces population quicker and is more popular...





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How People's Republic of China meets the Third Reich of you.
Charming, really.

I would prefer a world that had a humanist spirit, with specific emphasis on a strong respect for human rights. I would encourage a pragmatic approach to solving problems (financial crisis, ecological preservation, energy efficiency). While I would encourage science heartily, I would stress an anti-reductionist stance in terms of philosophy. I would promote global health care, which includes birth control and downsizing population, naturally.
My methods would include incentives for keeping a small family unit (none of that "the more kids you have, the more money you could get back on taxes" nonsense) and lowering the cost of college education considerably, while maintaining a standard of excellence. I think it would be easier with a smaller population and fewer governing bodies to go through to achieve the aforementioned ends.
/end naive envisioning.
*returns to being a cynic*

You lost me at "...anti-reductionist stance..." I like a reductionist approach, in fact the lack of a reductionist approach is usually the problem in my world.

So are you a cynic, or is that just your armor?





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Crocs and velour sweatpants with writing across the rear would forever be banned under penalty of ... well ... I would have thought that was a penalty...

Well yes, after all spandex is a privilege not a right, and any advertising should be in braille...





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Sustainable, clean energy and education are two areas I would target to change the world. The first is for short-term growth, and the second is for long-term progress. I would implement both through investment of money, time, and energy in varying doses.

Rational, but you'd have to take over by force - no chance of being elected...

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Old 02-23-2009, 04:44 PM   #12
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Talking about taking over the world on an internet forum is akin to bragging about winning a naval war by crashing toy boats into one another in the bathtub.

To institute real change, I try to take whatever steps are available to me, even if I have to create opportunities for myself. For more than year I have held three volunteer jobs and still hold two while I work to pay the bills, but even my work directly assists the low income, homeless, and indigent. I will also be entering the Peace Corps soon as I have been invited to serve. This will allow me to help an individual community in a poor third world country to become more self-sufficient for the future. Post Peace Corps, I hope to work in some sort of international aid capacity in USAID, the UN, Crisis Corps, etc., possibly heading towards a diplomatic route. I choose to walk the lines of which I speak. I'm done with playing in bath tubs.
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:14 PM   #13
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"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Lord Acton

Talking about taking over the world on an internet forum is akin to bragging about winning a naval war by crashing toy boats into one another in the bathtub.

To institute real change, I try to take whatever steps are available to me, even if I have to create opportunities for myself. For more than year I have held three volunteer jobs and still hold two while I work to pay the bills, but even my work directly assists the low income, homeless, and indigent. I will also be entering the Peace Corps soon as I have been invited to serve. This will allow me to help an individual community in a poor third world country to become more self-sufficient for the future. Post Peace Corps, I hope to work in some sort of international aid capacity in USAID, the UN, Crisis Corps, etc., possibly heading towards a diplomatic route. I choose to walk the lines of which I speak. I'm done with playing in bath tubs.

And the world will live as one... - John Lennon

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Old 02-23-2009, 10:01 PM   #14
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  Originally Posted by laserist
You lost me at "...anti-reductionist stance..." I like a reductionist approach, in fact the lack of a reductionist approach is usually the problem in my world.

So are you a cynic, or is that just your armor?

I meant reductionism in terms of philosophy and philosophy of the mind. I disagree with the purely scientific view of the mind and emotions. I.E. Thoughts only occur because of this or that chemical reaction within the brain. I think scientific advances are extraordinary, obviously, but I disagree with points similar to the one I illustrated.

And I'm horribly cynical, but I'm rather sure it stems from disappointment, now that I've considered a question another forum member asked me. So perhaps my cynicism began as armor years ago and has become incorporated more fully.

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Old 02-23-2009, 10:03 PM   #15
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1. Hostile takeover of all world governments.
2. Selection and testing of governing bodies for different regions based upon cultural boundaries.
3. Imposition of mandatory testing for genetic defects that reduce fitness as well as testing for general intelligence(not an IQ test, something more comprehensive), this will be done to issue licenses in order for people to breed. I realize this sounds harsh, but really, I would gladly sacrifice some of my personal freedoms(as I have a genetic defect myself, Celiac disease) in order to better the genetic data of the human race.
4. Criminal offenders will be subject to therapy/rehabilitation on first and second offenses. On the third offense mandatory sterilization/termination. This would of course have allowances for extenuating circumstances.
5. Environmental standards would be *very* strictly enforced in any area that has the possibility of mass effect on the rest of the world or the world immediately around it(read: coastlines, dense forests, mines, wells).

Few more things, I know I have this written down somewhere...Oh the things I think of at 4am.
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Old 02-23-2009, 10:42 PM   #16
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I meant reductionism in terms of philosophy and philosophy of the mind. I disagree with the purely scientific view of the mind and emotions. I.E. Thoughts only occur because of this or that chemical reaction within the brain. I think scientific advances are extraordinary, obviously, but I disagree with points similar to the one I illustrated.

And I'm horribly cynical, but I'm rather sure it stems from disappointment, now that I've considered a question another forum member asked me. So perhaps my cynicism began as armor years ago and has become incorporated more fully.

Actually I think the scientific view is that we don't know how thoughts occur. It's even been suggested that the brain on some level is a quantum computer, but since we haven't managed to build one of those it's hard to compare or contrast. I'll grant there are a number of paths to knowledge, but if the result is "knowledge" reductionist understanding should follow. Unless Bohr was right and there's no deep reality...

I'm often cynical about people, but still I hope.





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1. Hostile takeover of all world governments.
2. Selection and testing of governing bodies for different regions based upon cultural boundaries.
3. Imposition of mandatory testing for genetic defects that reduce fitness as well as testing for general intelligence(not an IQ test, something more comprehensive), this will be done to issue licenses in order for people to breed. I realize this sounds harsh, but really, I would gladly sacrifice some of my personal freedoms(as I have a genetic defect myself, Celiac disease) in order to better the genetic data of the human race.
4. Criminal offenders will be subject to therapy/rehabilitation on first and second offenses. On the third offense mandatory sterilization/termination. This would of course have allowances for extenuating circumstances.
5. Environmental standards would be *very* strictly enforced in any area that has the possibility of mass effect on the rest of the world or the world immediately around it(read: coastlines, dense forests, mines, wells).

Few more things, I know I have this written down somewhere...Oh the things I think of at 4am.
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Why would people follow you? And do you really think that you can improve the genetic potential of the human race by reducing diversity? Eventually we'll be able to fix those genetic issues - well, unless we kill off those motivated enough to come up with the answers...

 

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Old 02-24-2009, 02:42 AM   #17
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Why would people follow you? And do you really thing that you can improve the genetic potential of the human race by reducing diversity? Eventually we'll be able to fix those genetic issues - well, unless we kill off those motivated enough to come up with the answers...

Note the use of the word "hostile".

Do you really think that having a significantly larger proportion of less intelligent people breeding than people of more than average intelligence is a good thing? By introducing more and more less fit people into the gene pool(thanks modern medicine...) we are not contributing to fitness at all, just lowering overall fitness.

If I am remembering correctly from some of my readings, avoiding genetic disorders is possible now*. Ethics issues are currently the thing keeping science from going forward into more complex genetic issues, in my opinion. Even with that restriction, "designer babies" will probably come into being sometime in my lifetime, for better or worse, hopefully it will not end in a scenario like Gattaca where there are two distinct groups, enhanced and non-enhanced...

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Old 02-24-2009, 05:26 AM   #18
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Note the use of the word "hostile".

Do you really think that having a significantly larger proportion of less intelligent people breeding than people of more than average intelligence is a good thing? By introducing more and more less fit people into the gene pool(thanks modern medicine...) we are not contributing to fitness at all, just lowering overall fitness.

If I am remembering correctly from some of my readings, avoiding genetic disorders is possible now*. Ethics issues are currently the thing keeping science from going forward into more complex genetic issues, in my opinion. Even with that restriction, "designer babies" will probably come into being sometime in my lifetime, for better or worse, hopefully it will not end in a scenario like Gattaca where there are two distinct groups, enhanced and non-enhanced...

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I did note the word "Hostile". You're going to stage hostile takeovers of all world governments BY YOURSELF... OK let's pretend you've got a shot in hell of doing that. I'll even give you that you can maintain control of all those governments too. Seeing that your intelligence is so superior. So in this episode of "Pinky & the Brain", the Brain's plan for world dominion comes crashing down when the people revolt.

Stupid people litter, smart people strip mine. Hmm, which one do I prefer...

I think Heinlein wrote about society with wide spread genetic engineering and "control normals" way before Gattaca...

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Old 02-24-2009, 05:34 AM   #19
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I'd impose freedom and liberty on everyone. That'd show 'em.

Meaning: You have the right to your life and to whatever you can do with it (move about freely, accumulate wealth, property, etc.) as long as you don't interfere with the rights of others.

I'd abolish all government except that necessary to regulate commerce, keep the peace (i.e., protect and defend the rights of individuals as mentioned above), and defend from foreign aggression.

Hey, that sounds pretty much like the U.S. constitution!

 

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Old 02-24-2009, 05:47 AM   #20
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Global free trade.
More free movement.
Lower taxes as much as reasonable (and spending to match).
Get rid of all those infringements of civil liberties (even the politically correct ones like gun restrictions or hate speech).
Get some great scientific advancement.
I would say teach people to use their brains but I can't think of a practical, non-totalitarian way to do this so at the very least get rid of
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efficiency.
I would evaluate everything and streamline it all, make sure it was working to a much higher standard with less effort.
You'd have never seen such an efficient planet.
Reproductive success would be restored to the intelligent, rapists and paedophiles would be castrated/neutered, murderers would get life in a walled-off country, allowed to roam free within a more appropriate environment, scrap and such would be discarded in there also...lets say if we walled off north africa, escape would be out of the question entirely.
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Rational, but you'd have to take over by force - no chance of being elected...

No, absolutely no chance of being elected, but I would hate to stand for election so I don't depend on that route. I plan to use the force of indoctrination. Education does this, as it can be used to shape the world view and attitude of the students, who will then go out into the world and make their fortune wherever they find it and in the process carry my influence with them. The increasing need for energy will help me gain an entry into various countries with my energy investments, and my students will soon follow.

The concept itself is not original, think of how much power was wielded by Popes a long time ago using clergy and followers who were indoctrinated to accept their authority. The present day equivalent could be the way top tier management consultants work, the consultants are groomed by the firm, then sent on assignments to clients and are encouraged to eventually occupy C-level posts in the client, from where they will refer the firm for still more consulting assignments, leading to the consultancy exercising still greater influence on the functioning of the client, and the world.

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I'd like to implement a one child policy for all countries - I think a drastic reduction in the world population would change a lot of things for the better. I'd also like to get rid of all the legislation which protects idiots from harming/killing themselves - a few less morons in the gene pool cannot be a bad thing (anyone else think the human race has already peaked and is now devolving?). And equality between genders in all countries.

To help reduce the population and improve the gene pool, violent and repeat offenders would be executed.

Are you the 1st born?

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There's a lot of - crap - about ruling the world on this forum, but the only reason I can begin to care about for ruling the world is to change things... So what would you change? And how would you implement your change?

Socialized education for all with an excellent budget.

Change would be implemented through my army of airships and cyberninjas, of course.

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Note the use of the word "hostile".

Do you really think that having a significantly larger proportion of less intelligent people breeding than people of more than average intelligence is a good thing? By introducing more and more less fit people into the gene pool(thanks modern medicine...) we are not contributing to fitness at all, just lowering overall fitness.

If I am remembering correctly from some of my readings, avoiding genetic disorders is possible now*. Ethics issues are currently the thing keeping science from going forward into more complex genetic issues, in my opinion. Even with that restriction, "designer babies" will probably come into being sometime in my lifetime, for better or worse, hopefully it will not end in a scenario like Gattaca where there are two distinct groups, enhanced and non-enhanced...

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Lets hope that everything you have to offer is on the desirability menu.

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