Dream Recording

**SirJac** · 07-12-2012, 11:42 AM

I remember news this coming out months ago and while I did originally intend to share it here I was busy and forgot about it. Anyways, it doesn't seem like anyone has brought it up yet so better late then never.

Anyways, a group from Berkeley developed a way to recreate the images being veiwed by a person based on their brain activity measured by a fMRI. The youtube link shows a side by side comparison between what the person was actually watching and the reconstructed image.

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While the technology is obviously in it's infancy, I expect that a high quality recording of a person's dreams will be achievable with our lifetime.

**davai** · 07-12-2012, 11:53 AM

Very cool. I've been dreaming of this technology for some time now and here is the beginning. Hopefully in time all the other nuances of dreams can be recorded too, and possibly transferred to a chip in our brain. One day all children shall be born with a microchip in their brain.

**Typhon** · 07-12-2012, 01:39 PM

Sure beats my attempts with Microsoft Word.

**darniem** · 07-12-2012, 03:36 PM

Two things:

1. Absolutely amazing. If/When this tech becomes refined and able to produce even better images (and those are nothing short of impressive), I hope to have the privilege of using it to record my own dreams for the sheer entertainment of it.

2. I've always wondered how blind people dream, so this tech would give insight to that for sure.

**Sk8ordude** · 07-12-2012, 08:14 PM

Stoked

I hope to have a handheld in 15 years

**Straylight** · 07-15-2012, 04:52 AM

Why do you say 'dream recording' surely all this research is done while the person is awake observing pictures in an MRI scanner, then the MRI scans are compared to a prior database of MRI scans of observed images.

I suppose an interesting spin off will be that you can reconstruct dreams but ultimately it'll be a mind reading machine. Make a similar database of MRI scans while people are thinking certain words and you will be able to make a recording of their thoughts. Interestingly the accuracy of the machine will probably be directly correllated to the size of the comparative database - so it should be possible to make it very accurate.

Maybe in 20 or 30 years we'll all be controlling machines and communicating with each other through thought alone.

**SarcasticVlad** · 07-15-2012, 06:13 AM

Dream recording is still a distant future IMO, but this is amazing nonetheless.

Give me a call when someone makes a machine that will allow me to have lucid dreams whenever I want. That's what I'm waiting for.

**RBM** · 07-15-2012, 06:26 AM

	Originally Posted by SarcasticVlad To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Dream recording is still a distant future IMO, but this is amazing nonetheless. Give me a call when someone makes a machine that will allow me to have lucid dreams whenever I want. That's what I'm waiting for.

Hmmm, that machine would have to function, at least, as an Awareness Tuner, I'd guess.

Using existing radio technology concepts is an adequate template.

That is also on the market, actually, but the concept isn't highly sophisticated at the technical level. It's labeled as 'biofeedback'.

**UKsplendid** · 07-15-2012, 06:44 AM

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**SirJac** · 07-15-2012, 09:08 AM

	Originally Posted by Straylight To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Why do you say 'dream recording' surely all this research is done while the person is awake observing pictures in an MRI scanner, then the MRI scans are compared to a prior database of MRI scans of observed images.

True, I really only said dream recording to generate interest as it was the first thing that came to mind for potential application of this technology once it matures. I'm certian that there will be many more potential applications I havn't thought of since the underlying technique seems fairly robust and as you said accuracy is primarily determined by the size of the comparative database.

**PlatoHagel** · 07-15-2012, 09:15 AM

	Originally Posted by RBM To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hmmm, that machine would have to function, at least, as an Awareness Tuner, I'd guess.

(bold added for emphasis)

Is this an actual device you have seen elaborated on?

**RBM** · 07-15-2012, 09:30 AM

	Originally Posted by PlatoHagel To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	(bold added for emphasis) Is this an actual device you have seen elaborated on?

Does this notational edit clarify, 'Awareness Tuner' ?

**Straylight** · 07-15-2012, 09:58 AM

	Originally Posted by SirJac To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	True, I really only said dream recording to generate interest as it was the first thing that came to mind for potential application of this technology once it matures. I'm certian that there will be many more potential applications I havn't thought of since the underlying technique seems fairly robust and as you said accuracy is primarily determined by the size of the comparative database.

They had an article in New Scientist about this last year. Sometimes it seems like technology is creeping along then something like this happens and it feels like you are glimpsing the future.

**Dung** · 07-15-2012, 12:24 PM

This would also mean you could play dreams and the prospect offers a wide range of evil / commercial applications. Therefore it will likely happen.

**PlatoHagel** · 07-15-2012, 01:03 PM

	Originally Posted by RBM To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Does this notational edit clarify, 'Awareness Tuner' ?

Perhaps if taken to mean that it is possible by
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**RBM** · 07-15-2012, 03:35 PM

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	Perhaps if taken to mean that it is possible by To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ?

Sure, hardware is essential at a foundational level. Tom Campbell says in his book, that AIGuy ( a machine that develops consciousness) is a matter not of 'if' but a matter of 'when' - with a couple of qualifications.

07-12-2012, 11:42 AM	#1
SirJac Member [23%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 959	I remember news this coming out months ago and while I did originally intend to share it here I was busy and forgot about it. Anyways, it doesn't seem like anyone has brought it up yet so better late then never. Anyways, a group from Berkeley developed a way to recreate the images being veiwed by a person based on their brain activity measured by a fMRI. The youtube link shows a side by side comparison between what the person was actually watching and the reconstructed image. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Gizmodo has a good article on the specifics here: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. While the technology is obviously in it's infancy, I expect that a high quality recording of a person's dreams will be achievable with our lifetime.
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07-12-2012, 11:53 AM	#2
davai Core Member [177%] MBTI: Infp Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 7,107	Very cool. I've been dreaming of this technology for some time now and here is the beginning. Hopefully in time all the other nuances of dreams can be recorded too, and possibly transferred to a chip in our brain. One day all children shall be born with a microchip in their brain.
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07-12-2012, 01:39 PM	#3
Typhon Member [33%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,359	Sure beats my attempts with Microsoft Word.
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07-12-2012, 03:36 PM	#4
darniem Member [11%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 445	Two things: 1. Absolutely amazing. If/When this tech becomes refined and able to produce even better images (and those are nothing short of impressive), I hope to have the privilege of using it to record my own dreams for the sheer entertainment of it. 2. I've always wondered how blind people dream, so this tech would give insight to that for sure.
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07-12-2012, 08:14 PM	#5
Sk8ordude Veteran Member [59%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,392	Stoked I hope to have a handheld in 15 years
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07-15-2012, 04:52 AM	#6
Straylight Veteran Member [62%] MBTI: INtj Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,496	Why do you say 'dream recording' surely all this research is done while the person is awake observing pictures in an MRI scanner, then the MRI scans are compared to a prior database of MRI scans of observed images. I suppose an interesting spin off will be that you can reconstruct dreams but ultimately it'll be a mind reading machine. Make a similar database of MRI scans while people are thinking certain words and you will be able to make a recording of their thoughts. Interestingly the accuracy of the machine will probably be directly correllated to the size of the comparative database - so it should be possible to make it very accurate. Maybe in 20 or 30 years we'll all be controlling machines and communicating with each other through thought alone.
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07-15-2012, 06:13 AM	#7
SarcasticVlad Veteran Member [63%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,520	Dream recording is still a distant future IMO, but this is amazing nonetheless. Give me a call when someone makes a machine that will allow me to have lucid dreams whenever I want. That's what I'm waiting for.
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07-15-2012, 06:44 AM	#9
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07-15-2012, 12:24 PM	#14
Dung Veteran Member [92%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,687	This would also mean you could play dreams and the prospect offers a wide range of evil / commercial applications. Therefore it will likely happen.
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