Lessons you've learned from another type

**ButterflyPsyche** · 07-08-2012, 03:42 PM

For example, I've learned from INTJs:

- To be more direct

- That not everyone has to like me so I'm better off just being myself.

From my ISTJ father, I learned:

- The importance of schedules

And from my ESFJ Mother:

- How to value other people's time.

- Manners

**Tactical Panda** · 07-08-2012, 10:51 PM

Some of the lessons I have learnt over the years.

ENFP - the connectedness of people and the finiteness of concrete awareness.

ENFJ - some paths to relatively selfless consideration.

INFP - examples of depths to valuing people.

INFJ - empathy for the other worlds of people.

ENTP - the socratic lessons - from questionings of everything to the observation of the role of love.

ENTJ - taking a greater interest in the world and the practical applications of rational thought.

INTP - the role that learning plays for people and examples of the struggles of human nature with pride in the face of intelligence.

INTJ - development inbalances (great development in some areas, questionable development in others) and their unexpected advantages to people, and learning of the impact of Ni Te upon lifestyle.

ESFP - the world of Se that is right before us all within the moment.

ESFJ - the other side to stategic organizational considerations and an element of distance paired with responsibility.

ISFP - the world of perceptions of identity and the challenges that face that sort of lifestyle.

ISFJ - the element of responsibility within the arena of social considerations and the sort of character that it helps forge.

ESTP - the nature of the unfamiliar functions and the appreciation and understanding of that which is the path I prefer not to take.

ESTJ - the possibility of the ability to creatively wield cultural norms to great effect.

ISTP - the potential of combining Ni with Ti and the difficulty that arises from living and dealing with Fe.

ISTJ - the line that seperates reasonably duty from unhealthy, self-destructive dedication.

**thecase** · 07-08-2012, 11:07 PM

I'm going to get more specific

From an ISTJ- How to ride a motorcycle and be more mechanically literate

From an ENTJ- How to place importance of playing inside the system. The ability to be more free, in a way if you are perceived to play by the rules.

From an INFJ- How to show more emotion in a romantic relationship

From an ESFJ- Umm? How to live a life I would never want to live. (this is my mother)

From an ENFP- At one point I learned how to relax and have fun. But that reached a peak and after realizing how directionless her life was, I actually grew to totally resent that lifestyle choice. Now, I relax even less than I used to. Go figure.

**ButterflyPsyche** · 07-10-2012, 02:16 PM

Huh. I'm an ENFP, and I'm pretty busy all the time. I don't think my life is directionless, I'm working hard to pave my way to my ideal career. Then again, maybe she was just unhealthy?

My mom is also an ESFJ, and I have also had to learn that her ways are not mine.

**UKsplendid** · 07-10-2012, 02:23 PM

I learned to stop seeing the worst in everyone at all times because of my ENFP friend, all she had to do was be her lovely self and I was snapped out of misanthropy. I tell her shes human sunshine.

**thecase** · 07-10-2012, 02:48 PM

	Originally Posted by ButterflyPsyche To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Huh. I'm an ENFP, and I'm pretty busy all the time. I don't think my life is directionless, I'm working hard to pave my way to my ideal career. Then again, maybe she was just unhealthy? My mom is also an ESFJ, and I have also had to learn that her ways are not mine.

Yes, she is an unhealthy ENFP, but I believe her traits are quite common of unhealthy insecure ENFPs.

I'll add that when she takes the tests she gets a P of 80%-90%. I'm not sure what yours is, but she is so extremely passive she lacks the ability to make any decisions.

**ButterflyPsyche** · 07-10-2012, 06:16 PM

My P is quite high, about 70%, but I come from very strong SJ parents, so I tend to be very reliable (other than being 5-10 minutes late sometimes, but even then I'll give heads up). I very much value people's time because it's rude to do so otherwise.

I do find it difficult to decide on menus, but that's why I often break out the menu ahead of time online or ask for help ordering.

Also, I have been working very hard to develop structure in my life - I have a bedtime and study almost every day instead of waiting for the last minute to do things. I've found that working on the weaknesses presented by MBTI has helped me immensely improve myself as a person.

Lastly, I am anything but passive. I'm incredibly assertive and upfront, especially considering my background where the concept of being a "submissive game-playing Christian girl" was beaten into me. I am currently working on being even more direct than I already am, as I mentioned in the OP.

**darniem** · 07-10-2012, 09:45 PM

ISTJ - How to pay attention to details in regard to things like body language and word choice and how to subtly redirect unwanted behavior after making said observations. How to cultivate dependability and self-presentation well.

INFP - How to be in touch with my emotions, know what they are, know why I am feeling them, and understand what actions to take to become more in-tune with my soul and heart instead of focusing 100% on what's in my head.

**JC22** · 07-12-2012, 01:47 PM

I don't get

Sensors. I can manipulate them, but I still don't get them...

**Ender** · 07-12-2012, 02:42 PM

INFJ - learned not to devalue my intuition and feelings

ENFP - learned to enjoy the nonsensical and all the humor that it can entail

ESFJ - learned to value the facts and not forget the little things that make life enjoyable

ENFJ - learned to let feelings fly sometimes and be unafraid to look at the perspective of others

ENTJ - learned how to lead, smoothly but firmly

Dancingqueen · 07-12-2012, 07:38 PM

I've learned:

ISFJ-the little things matter, think about other peoples comfort, show you care

ESFJ-Duty to those you love. People take power dynamics seriously

ISFP-Accept others as they are, revel in the moment...look at the beauty that's all around. Be kind and generous

ESFP-Let loose, have fun, let go of your self consciousness

ISTJ-Boundaries are important. Details can make or break you. Keep a cool head for good results. Duty and loyalty are essential.

ESTJ-How to get the job done here and now. Logistics.

INFJ-Trust your intuition, care deeply and truly, take care of those you love

ENFJ-hmmm manipulation doesn't work on me no matter how much wishful thinking you utilize. Don't try to control others through guilt, it will backfire. Take good care of your friends. Don't take them for granted.

ENTJ-How to steamroll people. How to state it without the BS. How to lead well.

ESTP-NA (don't know any)
ISTP-NA (don't know any)
INFP-NA (don't know any)
ENTP-NA (don't know any)
ENFP-NA (don't know any)

INTP-delve deeper for the answers, patience, diplomacy, vulnerability, how to love

INTJ-I'm not alone. I am not an alien. It's okay to be this way. Basically self acceptance.

**Doggzilla** · 07-17-2012, 11:18 PM

	Originally Posted by UKsplendid To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I learned to stop seeing the worst in everyone at all times because of my ENFP friend, all she had to do was be her lovely self and I was snapped out of misanthropy. I tell her shes human sunshine.

Isnt this so true? ENFPs just make me feel all warm and fuzzy. I hate it lol. If it wasnt for ENFPs I would be ruler of the world by now. ^^

Its funny, I gauge people much more harshly on how they treat ENFPs than how they treat me. I just dont understand how so many people tend to walk all over their feelings.

**catzmeow** · 07-19-2012, 07:34 AM

From my INTJ: If you want something, be clear and specific. Slow down and make a plan rather than just flying by the seat of your pants through life.

Good stuff, truly.

**sircockburn** · 07-22-2012, 11:24 PM

My husband's (god it feels weird to say that, newlywed) an ISTJ.

- Orderliness really does make life easier, except during orderlying.
- Stick to commitments
- Stop laughing at his Fi moments
- Sometimes some zen and tranquility is just what the doctor ordered
- Earth: you live on it.

**Havoc313** · 07-22-2012, 11:35 PM

INFJ (brother)
- learned to be kind to other
ESTP (mother)
- learned to be fun
ESTJ (father)
- responsibility
- patience
ISTP (brother)
- nothing

**Mohammad** · 07-23-2012, 05:07 AM

ENTJ: sometimes creating noise works.
INTP: long-winded sentences are still objective.
ESFJ: materialism sucks.

**Rexus** · 07-29-2012, 09:15 AM

ISTJ (one of my friends): stay devoted, and shit happens

ESFJ (my GF): KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)

INTP (one of my friends): Who gets to decide whether an idea is stupid or not? The one who comes up with it, or the one who puts it to work?

**UKsplendid** · 07-29-2012, 11:19 AM

ENFJ and ESFP - Direct emotion isn't weak and it isn't perceived as weak. Still trying to apply this though.

07-08-2012, 03:42 PM	#1
ButterflyPsyche Member [21%] MBTI: eNFP Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 863	For example, I've learned from INTJs: - To be more direct - That not everyone has to like me so I'm better off just being myself. From my ISTJ father, I learned: - The importance of schedules And from my ESFJ Mother: - How to value other people's time. - Manners Last edited by ButterflyPsyche; 07-08-2012 at 04:02 PM.
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07-08-2012, 10:51 PM	#2
Tactical Panda Core Member [133%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,328	Some of the lessons I have learnt over the years. ENFP - the connectedness of people and the finiteness of concrete awareness. ENFJ - some paths to relatively selfless consideration. INFP - examples of depths to valuing people. INFJ - empathy for the other worlds of people. ENTP - the socratic lessons - from questionings of everything to the observation of the role of love. ENTJ - taking a greater interest in the world and the practical applications of rational thought. INTP - the role that learning plays for people and examples of the struggles of human nature with pride in the face of intelligence. INTJ - development inbalances (great development in some areas, questionable development in others) and their unexpected advantages to people, and learning of the impact of Ni Te upon lifestyle. ESFP - the world of Se that is right before us all within the moment. ESFJ - the other side to stategic organizational considerations and an element of distance paired with responsibility. ISFP - the world of perceptions of identity and the challenges that face that sort of lifestyle. ISFJ - the element of responsibility within the arena of social considerations and the sort of character that it helps forge. ESTP - the nature of the unfamiliar functions and the appreciation and understanding of that which is the path I prefer not to take. ESTJ - the possibility of the ability to creatively wield cultural norms to great effect. ISTP - the potential of combining Ni with Ti and the difficulty that arises from living and dealing with Fe. ISTJ - the line that seperates reasonably duty from unhealthy, self-destructive dedication.
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07-08-2012, 11:07 PM	#3
thecase Member [09%] MBTI: InTJ Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 379	I'm going to get more specific From an ISTJ- How to ride a motorcycle and be more mechanically literate From an ENTJ- How to place importance of playing inside the system. The ability to be more free, in a way if you are perceived to play by the rules. From an INFJ- How to show more emotion in a romantic relationship From an ESFJ- Umm? How to live a life I would never want to live. (this is my mother) From an ENFP- At one point I learned how to relax and have fun. But that reached a peak and after realizing how directionless her life was, I actually grew to totally resent that lifestyle choice. Now, I relax even less than I used to. Go figure.
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07-10-2012, 02:16 PM	#4
ButterflyPsyche Member [21%] MBTI: eNFP Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 863	Huh. I'm an ENFP, and I'm pretty busy all the time. I don't think my life is directionless, I'm working hard to pave my way to my ideal career. Then again, maybe she was just unhealthy? My mom is also an ESFJ, and I have also had to learn that her ways are not mine.
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07-10-2012, 02:23 PM	#5
UKsplendid Member [09%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 379	I learned to stop seeing the worst in everyone at all times because of my ENFP friend, all she had to do was be her lovely self and I was snapped out of misanthropy. I tell her shes human sunshine.
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07-10-2012, 06:16 PM	#7
ButterflyPsyche Member [21%] MBTI: eNFP Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 863	My P is quite high, about 70%, but I come from very strong SJ parents, so I tend to be very reliable (other than being 5-10 minutes late sometimes, but even then I'll give heads up). I very much value people's time because it's rude to do so otherwise. I do find it difficult to decide on menus, but that's why I often break out the menu ahead of time online or ask for help ordering. Also, I have been working very hard to develop structure in my life - I have a bedtime and study almost every day instead of waiting for the last minute to do things. I've found that working on the weaknesses presented by MBTI has helped me immensely improve myself as a person. Lastly, I am anything but passive. I'm incredibly assertive and upfront, especially considering my background where the concept of being a "submissive game-playing Christian girl" was beaten into me. I am currently working on being even more direct than I already am, as I mentioned in the OP.
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07-10-2012, 09:45 PM	#8
darniem Member [11%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 445	ISTJ - How to pay attention to details in regard to things like body language and word choice and how to subtly redirect unwanted behavior after making said observations. How to cultivate dependability and self-presentation well. INFP - How to be in touch with my emotions, know what they are, know why I am feeling them, and understand what actions to take to become more in-tune with my soul and heart instead of focusing 100% on what's in my head.
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07-12-2012, 01:47 PM	#9
JC22 Core Member [112%] MBTI: xxxx Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,509	I don't get Sensors. I can manipulate them, but I still don't get them...
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07-12-2012, 02:42 PM	#10
Ender Veteran Member [71%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,857	INFJ - learned not to devalue my intuition and feelings ENFP - learned to enjoy the nonsensical and all the humor that it can entail ESFJ - learned to value the facts and not forget the little things that make life enjoyable ENFJ - learned to let feelings fly sometimes and be unafraid to look at the perspective of others ENTJ - learned how to lead, smoothly but firmly
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07-12-2012, 07:38 PM	#11
Dancingqueen Core Member [126%] MBTI: iNTJ Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,060	I've learned: ISFJ-the little things matter, think about other peoples comfort, show you care ESFJ-Duty to those you love. People take power dynamics seriously ISFP-Accept others as they are, revel in the moment...look at the beauty that's all around. Be kind and generous ESFP-Let loose, have fun, let go of your self consciousness ISTJ-Boundaries are important. Details can make or break you. Keep a cool head for good results. Duty and loyalty are essential. ESTJ-How to get the job done here and now. Logistics. INFJ-Trust your intuition, care deeply and truly, take care of those you love ENFJ-hmmm manipulation doesn't work on me no matter how much wishful thinking you utilize. Don't try to control others through guilt, it will backfire. Take good care of your friends. Don't take them for granted. ENTJ-How to steamroll people. How to state it without the BS. How to lead well. ESTP-NA (don't know any) ISTP-NA (don't know any) INFP-NA (don't know any) ENTP-NA (don't know any) ENFP-NA (don't know any) INTP-delve deeper for the answers, patience, diplomacy, vulnerability, how to love INTJ-I'm not alone. I am not an alien. It's okay to be this way. Basically self acceptance.
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07-19-2012, 07:34 AM	#13
catzmeow Core Member [148%] MBTI: ENFP Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5,949	From my INTJ: If you want something, be clear and specific. Slow down and make a plan rather than just flying by the seat of your pants through life. Good stuff, truly.
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07-22-2012, 11:24 PM	#14
sircockburn Veteran Member [79%] MBTI: ENTP Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,170	My husband's (god it feels weird to say that, newlywed) an ISTJ. - Orderliness really does make life easier, except during orderlying. - Stick to commitments - Stop laughing at his Fi moments - Sometimes some zen and tranquility is just what the doctor ordered - Earth: you live on it.
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07-22-2012, 11:35 PM	#15
Havoc313 Member [03%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 130	INFJ (brother) - learned to be kind to other ESTP (mother) - learned to be fun ESTJ (father) - responsibility - patience ISTP (brother) - nothing Last edited by Havoc313; 07-22-2012 at 11:36 PM. Reason: spelling mistake
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07-23-2012, 05:07 AM	#16
Mohammad Veteran Member [58%] MBTI: INxJ Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,330	ENTJ: sometimes creating noise works. INTP: long-winded sentences are still objective. ESFJ: materialism sucks.
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07-29-2012, 09:15 AM	#17
Rexus Member [08%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 331	ISTJ (one of my friends): stay devoted, and shit happens ESFJ (my GF): KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) INTP (one of my friends): Who gets to decide whether an idea is stupid or not? The one who comes up with it, or the one who puts it to work?
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07-29-2012, 11:19 AM	#18
UKsplendid Member [09%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 379	ENFJ and ESFP - Direct emotion isn't weak and it isn't perceived as weak. Still trying to apply this though.
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