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Old 07-29-2012, 03:22 AM   #1
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After much self-help and pondering, trying to find ways to be positive and happy, trying to push myself in certain areas and failing... I've come to the conclusion that life for me is not worth it.

I've seen the human condition in its entirety from great sympathy and empathy for others and my own experiences and study and even though I see the beauty and ugliness to life I feel as though it offers more pain than fulfilment or "pleasure". For example, take a relationship other than family, so fragile and full of want at the beginning then demising into comfortableness and then lastly into contempt.

This isn't a cry for help or anything of the sort but a condensed version of what I have distilled after many years of seeing many sides to different issues as per our human condition. The shit is ugly and I can't handle it any more.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:14 AM   #2
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What do you mean by "you can't handle it any more"? What are your thoughts on your options?

I also see the beauty and ugliness to life, I feel many a times as though life seems to offer more pain than fulfilment or "pleasure", but those very things help spur me to live.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:27 AM   #3
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Get to work lazy boy.

You have important things to do.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:31 AM   #4
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I've often thought similar things, however, sir, you must not remember, or never have experienced true apathy or boredom. As one who has, even pain is an improvement to a lack of any sort of internal reactivity to your environment. Embracing life is a choice that only the individual can decide and thus I cannot find the point of your thread. What exactly is it you wish to gain from this post?
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:34 AM   #5
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Hmm.

You should not commit suicide because... there are probably millions of simple things you haven't tried or considered yet that would vastly help whatever situation you are in. Keep your eyes peeled for them and stick around long enough in life and chances are you will cross their path. Stuff we don't manage to imagine during our darker moments.

Plus it would suck if you died. Live. Be pleasantly surprised by life.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:56 AM   #6
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I think depression is exacerbating your sense of hopelessness, illustrated for instance by your implication of the universality of your example, but I can't fault you for being a bit overwhelmed with this great, gaping void.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:43 AM   #7
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  Originally Posted by cizzo
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After much self-help and pondering, trying to find ways to be positive and happy, trying to push myself in certain areas and failing... I've come to the conclusion that life for me is not worth it.

I've seen the human condition in its entirety from great sympathy and empathy for others and my own experiences and study and even though I see the beauty and ugliness to life I feel as though it offers more pain than fulfilment or "pleasure". For example, take a relationship other than family, so fragile and full of want at the beginning then demising into comfortableness and then lastly into contempt.

This isn't a cry for help or anything of the sort but a condensed version of what I have distilled after many years of seeing many sides to different issues as per our human condition. The shit is ugly and I can't handle it any more.

yeah, like many of the other posters, and even like you, I have been where you are, and can't really disagree or find fault.

One thing that is fact though, is that your brain is a vast network of synapses and chemicals. Your perception can feel extremely real, but could be a trick due to low serotonin levels. I say that because every human knows that life sucks. EVERYONE. But most people have the appropriate balance of serotonin and pleasure chemicals to negate the "self-destruct" button. Possibly you need your happy chemicals topped off?

As a person who even recently considered suicide due to nagging Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, I realize I HAVE to be persistent in my course of treatment, in terms of talking therapy and anti-anxiety medication. Also, unbalanced sleep cycles can make one tremendously depressed. Talk to a doctor immediately. Neither you, nor the posters on the board have medical training and insight to deal with depression, trauma, suicidal desires, or any mental health issue. I recently told my friends I don't give a shit about the world anymore, and I'm literally too exhausted to deal with it, and you know what? That is exactly what they told me.....that they don't have the insight or maturity to fix what is going on, but clearly something is not in balance. They were right.

You MUST understand you CANNOT fix this by yourself. It cannot be fixed by the person suffering. You HAVE to call your health insurance and get them to refer you to both a psycholgist and psychiatrist, to get sorted on what course of therapy is best for your needs. And then commit and implement.

Take care of yourself! Life CAN be better. You are probably an amazing person with many gifts. Possibly many difficulties too? You are doing the right thing by venting here. I would discourage you from venting here, reading the replies, not taking them seriously, and continuing your life the way it currently is.

You HAVE to take control of your own circumstance and provide yourself with the therapy you need to feel better. Brain chemistry is a bitch. It can be fixed.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:44 PM   #8
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Many years.... How old are you?
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:48 AM   #9
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Many years.... How old are you?

I'm in my late 20's, soon approaching 30. I wrote this when I was in a very depressed state, since then my mood has lightened but that nagging thought in my head has been there for a while.

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Old 07-30-2012, 10:39 AM   #10
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  Originally Posted by cizzo
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After much self-help and pondering, trying to find ways to be positive and happy, trying to push myself in certain areas and failing... I've come to the conclusion that life for me is not worth it.

I've seen the human condition in its entirety from great sympathy and empathy for others and my own experiences and study and even though I see the beauty and ugliness to life I feel as though it offers more pain than fulfilment or "pleasure". For example, take a relationship other than family, so fragile and full of want at the beginning then demising into comfortableness and then lastly into contempt.

This isn't a cry for help or anything of the sort but a condensed version of what I have distilled after many years of seeing many sides to different issues as per our human condition. The shit is ugly and I can't handle it any more.

Recommendations:

  • Start exercising. RIGHT NOW. 30 mins of cardio a day until you feel the endorphins kick in.
  • Drink plenty of water.
  • Get plenty of sleep.
  • Get 15-20 minutes of sunshine a day. There is a condition called seasonal affective disorder and its no joke. There is a reason people who live in perpetually rainy/sunless areas have higher rates of suicide than sunny locales.
  • If you are living your life by examining others, get out and experience some new things and hobbies for yourself. If you don't like what you try, keep searching until you find something you do enjoy.
  • If you eat lots of junk food, start eating clean. Eating clean means cut out processed foods (anything that comes in a wrapper, preserved, fried, etc.)
Try a month or two of that and I guarantee things will look different to you. Guarantee it.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:37 AM   #11
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Recommendations:

These.

Lifestyle modifications can be enormously helpful. Try them first, see if your mood improves.

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