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Old 10-23-2007, 08:54 PM   #1
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A contaminant found in rivers and estuaries the world over can "rob" fish of their ability to sense each other and stay in a tight, cohesive shoal, say researchers.
The chemical, 4-nonylphenol, does this by overpowering the fish's natural smell-signatures, say researchers. And because these signatures are critical to helping the fish form in groups, the chemical effectively weakens their "strength in numbers" defence against predators.

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Old 10-24-2007, 06:20 PM   #2
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that sucks... for the fish.

Hum... while we're talking about fish and soap.
I came across a product that claims to get rid of the smell of fish/garlic etc on hands etc.
It's in the form of a steel?? elliptical sphere.

I figured it probably has something to do with a chemical reaction that happens b/w the aromatic compounds and the metal or something. But I haven't been able to find out what it is.
So now I pose this question to the resident chemistry genie.
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:50 PM   #3
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when we go camping for weeks, we use a so called fish friendly soap which can also be used as a body soap... well they say it's fish friendly. it doesn't create bubbles in freshwater. but i still doubt it's fish-friendliness we camp as hermits - side a side b clothes
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:35 PM   #4
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  Originally Posted by Rei
O________o
that sucks... for the fish.

Hum... while we're talking about fish and soap.
I came across a product that claims to get rid of the smell of fish/garlic etc on hands etc.
It's in the form of a steel?? elliptical sphere.

I figured it probably has something to do with a chemical reaction that happens b/w the aromatic compounds and the metal or something. But I haven't been able to find out what it is.
So now I pose this question to the resident chemistry genie.

racks orgo brain - remembers metal complexes do black magic to organic compounds, especially double bonds, now what do they do? That is the question... I *believe* if my memory serves me correctly, metals can hydrogenate(??? I'm forgetting my terminology! But I remember the reaction) double bonds, therefore if an aromatic met a metal, its double bonds would essentially disappear and turn into hydrogens. ie CH2=CH2 --> CH3-CH3 => C6H6 --> C6H12

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