[valkyrie88]

I was reading this new book I ordered from amazon today, its called Jesus(a story of enlightenment) It basically explains how baby Jesus grew into the messiah. As I read the first few chapters I had a thought, Was Jesus an INTJ? Some examples of why he might be are; he liked to be alone and often wandered around, was a natural-born leader, was very intelligent at a young age and always seemed to have a thirst for knowledge, also had a very strong internal drive. I just wanted to know if anyone else had ever come to the same conclusion.

[Cocoa]

Hmmm, I'd say more ENTJ. I mean c'mon...12 apostles! Sides, ENTJs are the natural leaders, we're the natural scientists.

Jesus also feels like and F tho. ENFJ? ENFP?

[Tsukasa]

He reminds me more of an INFJ. Very dedicated to his cause, more introverted (small number of apostles and was much better in one on one, withdrew at times from large crowds), and had a strong J function (ex. response to markets in the temples).

[Hatsumomo1]

I'm kind of going with xNFJ. E or I, I'm not sure. I really don't think he's any kind of NT though.

[Deadgod]

INFx....INFJ being the most likely.

[PeterIMC]

What ever he was, he was most certainly an E.

And besides that a big time narcissist as well.

[Vagrant]

I'd think ENFP, considering his views.

I'd consider the God of the Old and New Testament an INTJ, and Jesus seems to be the ENFP compliment.

	had a strong J function (ex. response to markets in the temples).

Most of the time he was mild mannered. That was a rare exception to what he was usually doing, because the markets in the temple really managed to piss him off. When the Jews thought of a "King sent from on high" they thought of a knightly figure riding a stallion with a sword to conquer the Jews' enemies. What they got was a man riding a donkey preaching peace and love.

Here's what I think of the various N types:

INTJ: Unlikely, considering how great of a people person he was. His concern first and foremost was people. I suspect why he might appear as an INTJ was that I consider God to be the ultimate INTJ -- and since Jesus was within obvious communication with him, God's INTJ'ness would come through Jesus.
INTP: Hah. Hah. No.
INFJ: Plausible, although I question how well an INFJ would do preaching in front of a crowd of thousands.
INFP: Unlikely, he seemed both a realist and idealist at the same time, not something typically observed in INFPs.
ENTJ: Possible, although I suspect he would've gotten on a lot more people's nerves than just the pharisees.
ENTP: Unlikely, given ENTP's tendencies towards hedonism and self-service.
ENFJ: Possible.
ENFP: Seems most likely to me, considering his unusually different views and strength of conviction, as well as the long periods of meditation and introspection. Not to mention how much the people loved him, and how he shone in crowds, considering that he was surrounded by them almost constantly when he was in a town.

I find it highly unlikely that Jesus was an S, given his unusual views, and his willingness to speak about them against established authorities' wills.

[bdz]

	Originally Posted by Cocoa To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hmmm, I'd say more ENTJ. I mean c'mon...12 apostles! Sides, ENTJs are the natural leaders, we're the natural scientists. Jesus also feels like and F tho. ENFJ? ENFP?

i'd say ENFJ. They are also natural leaders and can look exactly like an ENTJ when promoting their cause (which they are very good at due to their fine-tuned social skills)





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	Originally Posted by Vagrant To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I'd consider the God of the Old and New Testament an INTJ

LOL I love it! What MBTI type does everyone think God is? INTJ right? :P

[Storm]

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[Kisai]

ENFJ. He was a cult leader through and through and did what he could to gather as many followers as possible, even accepting women (shudder) and known sinners (double shudder) and probably the quadrupedly shuddered woman sinner. Going to Jerusalem during Pasach and trying to rouse the Jews against the Romans is a very ENFJ (and incredibly stupid) thing to do.

The book of Luke numbers 70 (or 72) disciples.

John the Baptist strikes me more as an introvert.

[Sly]

I/E - I think he was an E because he was around so many people so often with little difficulty. He did need time to recharge though. I think for sure he was an E with a well developed I.

N/S - Definitely an N. The pharisees were the extreme S types and Jesus was their antithesis with his N big picture thinking. One of the things I love most about Christ (who I personally believe IS God himself) (I believe in God as a Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)

T/F - I know most people disagree with me on this one but I see Jesus as a T. When the mob dragged the prostitute out and asked Jesus if it was OK to stone her, he knelt down and started drawing on the ground why he collected his thoughts. He did not respond out of feeling. He was extremely rational and gave the iconic "Whosoever is without sin may cast the first stone." That is not very a very F thing to say but rather a very T thing to say.

J/P - Jesus mapped out his plan of heading to the cross to save the world. He followed through with that plan to fruition. Very J. Christ did not leave a lot of things up in the air, so I see little room for debate when it comes to his Jness.

[Phoenix rising]

What ever he was, he was most certainly an E.

And besides that a big time narcissist as well.

[Solus]

I can't imagine Jesus as INTJ. As an INFJ yes, but not as an INTJ. I mean there is no way an INTJ would suffer humilation, psychological and physical torture and then honestly ask that his tormentors be forgiven while at the same time showing understanding for their behaviour.

There is, however, one group of people in the gospels where INTJs were probably the dominant type - the pharisees. They were smug, self-righteous, spent an inordinate amount of time on futile quasi-intellectual masturbation. Talked/contemplated much, achieved preciously little.

[Vagrant]

Originally Posted by Solus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I can't imagine Jesus as INTJ. As an INFJ yes, but not as an INTJ. I mean there is no way an INTJ would suffer humilation, psychological and physical torture and then honestly ask that his tormentors be forgiven while at the same time showing understanding for their behaviour. There is, however, one group of people in the gospels where INTJs were probably the dominant type - the pharisees. They were smug, self-righteous, spent an inordinate amount of time on futile quasi-intellectual masturbation. Talked/contemplated much, achieved preciously little.

I'm pretty sure that the pharisees fit more of the role of ISTJ's, considering how ridiculously strongly they followed the rabbinic laws.

[Benzebub]

He seems to have a high sense of values (Fi) and a "big picture" view of the world (Ne) so I would definitely say xNFP with INFP the most likely since it has been mentioned on few occations that he needed some time alone.

[Solus]

	Originally Posted by Vagrant To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I'm pretty sure that the pharisees fit more of the role of ISTJ's, considering how ridiculously strongly they followed the rabbinic laws.

I can agree with that. I will admit that I'm more focused on those who put trick questions to Jesus although an alternative explanation is conceivable, namely that they merely wanted to get a clearer insight into his theology. It could also be argued that they didn't deviate from their teachings because of the ISTJ tendency to observe traditions, laws and conservatively stick to them while expecting others to do the same. But if you see them as arrogant scholars or even as hypocrites who felt threatened and whose questions had the sole intent of disgracing Jesus, catching him off-guard, and diminishing his reputation in order to safe-guard their position within the Jewish community then I don't see ISTJ who are sticklers for morality and legality but INTJs.

[bdz]

	Originally Posted by Solus To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	There is, however, one group of people in the gospels where INTJs were probably the dominant type - the pharisees. They were smug, self-righteous, spent an inordinate amount of time on futile quasi-intellectual masturbation.Talked/contemplated much, achieved preciously little.

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Benzebub--I agree with your assessment of N and F, but as someone mentioned before, he carried out and stuck to a lot of complicated plans--not very P. Plus, I'm not sure an INFP could stand up for themselves or withstand all the opposition. The only other type I could envision Jesus being is an INFJ, cause they are martyrs, but I think he was really people-oriented so probably not.

[LPM]

I vote INFJ with borderline on E/I and J/P.

I'm also borderline on the E/I and J/P. I can operate very well socially, lead an organization, speak and lead in meetings, use groups when I need to. But it's not my preference, and it doesn't energize me it's draining. I get a similar feeling when it comes to Jesus' interactions with people in the New Testament.

[Benzebub]

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To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Benzebub--I agree with your assessment of N and F, but as someone mentioned before, he carried out and stuck to a lot of complicated plans--not very P. Plus, I'm not sure an INFP could stand up for themselves or withstand all the opposition. The only other type I could envision Jesus being is an INFJ, cause they are martyrs, but I think he was really people-oriented so probably not.

Well, I wouldn´t say that just because your perceiving function is extraverted you have a hard time following through. I have an INFP friend who is one of the most determined persons I know in terms of goals. He still has his sense of what he want´s and want´s it done.
Since Jesus had a few followers he may very well have been assisted in implementing his ideas. INFJ also seem like a reasonable preferense. One of the hardest things about typing someone like Jesus is that he didn´t write so much himself so his ideas might have become so distorted by his followers that it makes him hard to type.

[bdz]

	Originally Posted by Benzebub To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	One of the hardest things about typing someone like Jesus is that he didn´t write so much himself so his ideas might have become so distorted by his followers that it makes him hard to type.

Good point!
It's hard to type people who lived that long ago, since history is often rewritten.

[potsic]

I do not know about putting Jesus into any personality category. Maybe some god category or something, who knows

[Challenge Me]

according to that which was written, here are some traits:

*he used logic not feeling to get through to people (example, he is without sin cast the first stone)

*he used parable for the people to understand. In other words, he had the ability to teach his concepts in laymen's terms

*people loved him and he was charismatic

*he needed his alone time

*I don't think he was narcissistic. From what I know, he never actually said he was God. He merely asked "Who do men say that I am?"

*he had the ability to withstand immense amount of pain to achieve his goal.

*he had a different way of thinking. Instead of tackling the symptoms of illness, he would tell those he healed to "go and sin no more". So, perhaps he knew of effects that psychology and emotion have on healing and recovery, that even the medical community today cannot fully understand. (the whole "happier people tend to survive cancer more often)

*a lot of the rules about uncleanliness was not just to make rules. A majority was about cleanliness. For example, women on their period were unclean. Why? Because they are bleeding, and stuff can transmit through blood. Same with people who are sick, have rashes, and what not. priests served the same function as judges and doctors back then. but anyways back to Jesus....

[Vagrant]

	*I don't think he was narcissistic. From what I know, he never actually said he was God. He merely asked "Who do men say that I am?"

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By claiming to be the Son of God, he also therefore claims to be divine, or God.

	he had a different way of thinking. Instead of tackling the symptoms of illness, he would tell those he healed to "go and sin no more". So, perhaps he knew of effects that psychology and emotion have on healing and recovery, that even the medical community today cannot fully understand. (the whole "happier people tend to survive cancer more often)

Most of the time in a Bible, an affliction was considered to be the result of somebody's sin (but that's not always the case, as seen in the Book of Job). That said, Jesus was also aware that all people were sinners.

	a lot of the rules about uncleanliness was not just to make rules. A majority was about cleanliness. For example, women on their period were unclean. Why? Because they are bleeding, and stuff can transmit through blood. Same with people who are sick, have rashes, and what not. priests served the same function as judges and doctors back then. but anyways back to Jesus....

Those rules were established before Jesus. Some of them are visible in the Books of Law (Numbers, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, etc), some have to be found in the Talmud.

[childofprodigy]

I'd vote for ENFJ with well developed introverted intuition function....when he was chilling alone in the desert for 40 days...that's when he finally matured his introverted intuition function...after that it's mostly extraversion

	Originally Posted by Sly To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	T/F - I know most people disagree with me on this one but I see Jesus as a T. When the mob dragged the prostitute out and asked Jesus if it was OK to stone her, he knelt down and started drawing on the ground why he collected his thoughts.

What if that was an attempt to manipulate the crowd....ENFJs are masters at manipulating the crowd....

[Sly]

I could list example after example of Jesus' Tness. The only F trait I see in Jesus is his extreme empathy for humans. Externally he showed empathy, but I fully believe that it was out of a T internally. He empathized, but will still send those to Hell who do not heed his gospel message of faith in him. For another example, when Peter was trying to convince Jesus that he didn't have to go to the cross because he was the son of God, Jesus could have folded like an F probably would have done (they are very susceptible to having their ego stroked). However, he rebuked Peter and said "Get behind me Satan". Jesus was a T all the way!





Sly added to this post, 3 minutes and 42 seconds later...

I'm also starting to think that it's highly possible that Jesus was an I. Perhaps he was willing to stop living in his head to accomplish the mission at hand...???