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Old 04-04-2009, 10:57 AM   #26
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:35 AM   #27
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  Originally Posted by Bobert
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Ok.
Am I going to harrassed on the road for out of state plates?
Is it considered a racist 'city'?
Average of 16 inches of rain per year, doesn't sound like an area with lawns.
Do they offer free gun racks with vehicle purchases?
What is the animal/insect pest situation like.


I only care because I have young, intelligent kids and am concerned about the environment they'll being growing in, etc.

I can look up schools, taxes, codes, etc. I'll do a google street view, too.

All in all, I guess I'm concerned with a family oriented lifestyle.
Nightlife? C'mon, I'm an INTJ. I haven't had a nightlife in 20 years.

it's not considered a racist city no part of washington is. I can't imagine anyone harrassing you for out of state plates.
they do have lawns but they require heavy watering. if you're willing to commute a little I would really consider living in cour d'elaine over spokane though. I don't think they offer free gun racks with car purchase. What do you mean what is the animal/pest situation like? I've never heard anyone talk about this. spokane is a hick town but still a washington state hick town which is going to be very different from the Midwest and southern hick towns.

here's a link to a couple local news stations.

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I think you guys really need to come visit washington state before you make your decision. spokane has a good part of town and a not so good part. most notable on the bad side convicted killer yates came from here and for the ho hum side, bing crosby went to college at gonzaga university here.

if I can ask, how much does your wife stand to make in spokane?

here's a list of housing


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for the kids there are a lot of water activities,


heres the web site for cor de alene


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Personally, if this were me the biggest questions I'd have other than what's the area like? would be what is the health and stability of the company that wants to hire me? Why are they hiring me? you have to estimate the odds that she might be laid off or let go as a bad fit in a few months. that would be disastrous and it does happen.

 

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Old 04-04-2009, 03:23 PM   #28
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Bobert, your kids are intelligent. they will adapt. i did...it was a little tough in some cases, but, nonetheless, smart kids who are reasonably tough can do it. everyone is more flexible than they think they are...

the only place i have been harassed for out of state plates was wyoming...and i had a good rifle on me at the time.....i fit right in.
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Old 04-04-2009, 03:37 PM   #29
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Thanks everyone for all your input.
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Very much appreciated.

"I can't imagine anyone harrassing you for out of state plates."
I lived in the deep south with "northern" plates. The war is still going on down there.

Animal/pest situation. I like to garden. Animals grazing through it is a problem. Is there a heavy mosquito problem?
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:39 PM   #30
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  Originally Posted by Bobert
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Thanks everyone for all your input.
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Very much appreciated.

"I can't imagine anyone harrassing you for out of state plates."
I lived in the deep south with "northern" plates. The war is still going on down there.

Animal/pest situation. I like to garden. Animals grazing through it is a problem. Is there a heavy mosquito problem?


If you lived in the pacific part of the state we have skeeters, I don't think they are much of an issue over there though. there might be deer but we have serious crop lands over there so I think the gardening is good. Personally over on this side of the state I've been attempting to grow tomatoes for years now. I usually get a few before the rot sets in from the heavy rain
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the best part is that you only would live an hour away from walla walla where the best wine in the world is grown. walla walla is a seriously neat place. you have the old fashioned farmer types and a serious french culture. when I was there last there were french men sitting in side walk cafe's talking disparagingly against the farmers. it was very amusing.

the wine.. omg!

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we don't approach anything like the deep south over here. Seriously the only way to really decide if you like the area is to hop on the plane. take a weekend vacation over in spokane. you can also go to google pictures and search for spokane, you'll get a feel for the lay of the land that way too.

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Old 04-04-2009, 05:04 PM   #31
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I'm originally from Washington - (the Seattle area) - and one thing I miss is the lack of pests. Spokane seems to me like it'd be a fine place to raise kids - a relatively quiet little city in the agricultural part of the state. Very much like Idaho, if that means anything to you. The countryside can be very beautiful... they might have the occasional rattlesnake, out in the countryside... not sure. I know they do a little further south- but not like they do in the Southwest. But Washington does not have pests like back East or the South, bug-wise.

It's always seemed pretty boring to me, but that might be the lack of water, I prefer to be near water. They definitely have lawns - they're just brown for a lot of the year.

Washington State is a great place to grow up, sociologically speaking, in my experience. I've been to other parts of the country as an adult and have been surprised at the lingering historical tensions - racial and otherwise. I'd always thought of them as historical, anyway; stuff I'd only read about in books as a kid. I never saw much of that kind of thing growing up... though I'll grant you that I was a middle class white girl in the burbs, I always thought of it as a NW thing, too.

What's that old quote about the West Coast - something about someone turning the country on end so all the loose people tumbled on over there. WA & OR have a lot of quirk to them. Eastern Washington is definitely more conservative, culturally, than the other side of the Cascades, but it's still the PNW, which is a good thing, in my book.



I'll also say, WA is a fun state to explore with kids, if you're into road trips. Lots of camping and a variety of landscapes and odd little towns to visit.
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:17 PM   #32
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  Originally Posted by rara avis
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I'm originally from Washington - (the Seattle area) - and one thing I miss is the lack of pests. Spokane seems to me like it'd be a fine place to raise kids - a relatively quiet little city in the agricultural part of the state. Very much like Idaho, if that means anything to you. The countryside can be very beautiful... they might have the occasional rattlesnake, out in the countryside... not sure. I know they do a little further south- but not like they do in the Southwest. But Washington does not have pests like back East or the South, bug-wise.

It's always seemed pretty boring to me, but that might be the lack of water, I prefer to be near water. They definitely have lawns - they're just brown for a lot of the year.

Washington State is a great place to grow up, sociologically speaking, in my experience. I've been to other parts of the country as an adult and have been surprised at the lingering historical tensions - racial and otherwise. I'd always thought of them as historical, anyway; stuff I'd only read about in books as a kid. I never saw much of that kind of thing growing up... though I'll grant you that I was a middle class white girl in the burbs, I always thought of it as a NW thing, too.

What's that old quote about the West Coast - something about someone turning the country on end so all the loose people tumbled on over there. WA & OR have a lot of quirk to them. Eastern Washington is definitely more conservative, culturally, than the other side of the Cascades, but it's still the PNW, which is a good thing, in my book.



I'll also say, WA is a fun state to explore with kids, if you're into road trips. Lots of camping and a variety of landscapes and odd little towns to visit.


oh you're just spoilt to ocean, Spokane has a ton of lakes and rivers. just no bay or ocean.
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Port townsend will kick the butt of spokane any day of the year but it does have water sport.

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Old 04-04-2009, 05:27 PM   #33
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oh you're just spoilt to ocean, Spokane has a ton of lakes and rivers. just no bay or ocean.
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Port townsend will kick the butt of spokane any day of the year but it does have water sport.

It's true. And look at me now, living in the freaking desert.
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I'd consider moving to Spokane right now... let me know if you guys get something with a guest house...

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Old 04-04-2009, 08:07 PM   #34
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Standard of Living is much higher in Spokane than Pittsburgh. My initial results were incorrect.

I think, that to justify moving to such a degree (distance, esp. income vs standard of living, and for me another f@ckin move), that her income would have to more than double (slightly) to be compared to a raise with promotion.

But with a college called Gonzaga U...

 

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Old 04-04-2009, 09:15 PM   #35
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The list of pros and cons might help and if you have ever sat together and done vision casting for your family that would help too, to create some clear goals that you can hold this opportunity against.

The only 2 things I can add without more info from you is:
If her job is not in a bullet-proof industry (like the medical industry) I would add that being the new employee might put her in a more vulnerable position if there are layoffs. And if they are not paying relocation fees, this can really get expensive.

How long do you have to decide?

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Old 04-06-2009, 03:48 PM   #36
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  Originally Posted by loosefanbelt
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How long do you have to decide?

We will go with you where ever you go!
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IDK how long we have, actually. Hmm.

We're leaning against the move at the moment. Although it would be an adventure (again).

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Old 04-08-2009, 06:20 AM   #37
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I keep forgetting to edit my OP, it's an 80% raise.
Spokane has 9% sales tax, but can be thwarted by going to Idaho or Oregon.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:09 AM   #38
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Well, you'd lose any tax savings with the cost of gas on the long drive to Oregon, but doing large purchases in Idaho is certainly a viable option. You might still want to have your residence in Washington, though, as there's no state income tax.
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