Male birth control pills, sounds pretty cool to me.

**Ranya** · 08-19-2012, 11:16 PM

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so what do you guys think? Are you willing to take the responsibility instead of relying on your partner? Just thought of the ultimate pregnancy prevention.. male birth control + female birth control + condom

**Arcanist** · 08-19-2012, 11:33 PM

Of course. Females have legal privilege and the ability to enslave men at will, with the birth of a child. I would take this pill and hamstring the female's legal power.

**Vermillion** · 08-19-2012, 11:38 PM

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	Of course. Females have legal privilege and the ability to enslave men at will, with the birth of a child. I would take this pill and hamstring the female's legal power.

I plan on getting a vasectomy, there is no logical reason to have a child. I don't want to pay for it myself, though. Maybe I should become an infamous troll and start a blog then have a donate button for my vasectomy fund. I'm sure I could convince plenty of people to pay me to never reproduce.
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**Arcanist** · 08-19-2012, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Vermillion
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I plan on getting a vasectomy, there is no logical reason to have a child. I don't want to pay for it myself, though. Maybe I should become an infamous troll and start a blog then have a donate button for my vasectomy fund. I'm sure I could convince plenty of people to pay me to never reproduce.
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Well, fortunately I'm ace, so I probably never have to worry about this shit. But on the off, off, chance I find a female that is not completely repugnant, I would def take male birth control. No surgery though. Just not comfortable with that, but if you are, more power to ya.

Eridal · 08-19-2012, 11:53 PM

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You do realize that most polls done on this question tend to show very strong support for such a pill so I'm not sure where the seemingly accusatory tone towards men comes from.

**Ranya** · 08-20-2012, 12:46 AM

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	You do realize that most polls done on this question tend to show very strong support for such a pill so I'm not sure where the seemingly accusatory tone towards men comes from.

I'm not accusing anyone, its just that some men are a little funny about their manhood. I was just curious what peoples response is. The tone that I get from men is that birth control is mainly the womens responsibility. I know this is not representative of the general population, so im just curious how men would react if they would suddenly expected to remember to take a pill everyday, dealing with side effects etc. So far, men have had it pretty easy with regard to contraceptive methods.

I know several women that have had a really rough time getting adjusted to birth control while their men refused to wear condoms. So if a man had a choice of wearing condoms or taking birth control, which would they prefer?

**thod** · 08-20-2012, 12:52 AM

Even amongst married couples it is common for the man to wish to delay childrearing. Lots of women so desire to be mothers than they will 'forget to take the pill'. They will even do this when unmarried in order to obtain the motherhood life. If men could control their own fertility this option is removed and there will be a lot more frustrated women out there. I reckon male birth control will be a big hit with men.

**Distance** · 08-20-2012, 01:16 AM

It's a great idea, particularly if they both use contraceptives. This will help to ensure that no unwanted pregnancies occur.

**Silverity** · 08-20-2012, 01:45 AM

I think it's a positive development, I personally don't know any guys who would actually use it, but I'm sure there are plenty out there. My only hope/concern is that people don't think they are suddenly invincible and forego condoms. A pill might save you from a baby but now that we have drug resistant STIs out there.... condoms definitely aren't going anywhere.

**ModernLit** · 08-20-2012, 02:30 AM

i don't think most men would remember to take a pill everyday. maybe some really responsible, organized men. hopefully in any serious relationship a lot has been talked through and gone over and a mutual decision is made to satisfy everyone and also keep everyone STI safe. i agree condoms aren't going anywhere, though. they are definitely still needed.

**themuzicman** · 08-20-2012, 04:40 AM

I think a lot of guys are going to think of this as an alternative to a condom.

**Zsych** · 08-20-2012, 05:04 AM

The stopped sperm production seems to be an unexpected side-effect of people trying to do something else. Who can say what the long term side-effects of this thing on a human are.

That said, I think the man should take responsibility and use a condom or whatever.

**topquark** · 08-20-2012, 05:29 AM

Great news, gives men more options to control their fertility. If I were a man, I would get a vasectomy out of fear of being made into a father against my will (at least as a woman, I have abortion as a last resort), but it must be very difficult for men who want children one day to protect themselves, if for some reason they can't use condoms. I hope it becomes available soon.

**AltoidaMintera** · 08-20-2012, 05:34 AM

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	Of course. Females have legal privilege and the ability to enslave men at will, with the birth of a child. I would take this pill and hamstring the female's legal power.

Sounds like the rant of a man that doesn't take accountability for his own sperm.

**thod** · 08-20-2012, 07:46 AM

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	i don't think most men would remember to take a pill everyday. maybe some really responsible, organized men.

Like brushing one's teeth or combing one's hair, heck I even forget to tie my shoelaces. Like, I drink a black coffee every single morning. How much harder can it be to add one more thing.

**Arcanist** · 08-20-2012, 10:41 AM

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	Sounds like the rant of a man that doesn't take accountability for his own sperm.

::sound of privilege imploding::

Your body, your choice, your responsibility toots! Just because you decide to play at being a mommy doesn't mean you get to ensnare a third party into what was ultimately YOUR decision. In fact, you should probably be compensating the man for his sperm if he decides to walk. What, do you think you get a child for free?

**24601** · 08-20-2012, 10:53 AM

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	::sound of privilege imploding:: Your body, your choice, your responsibility toots! Just because you decide to play at being a mommy doesn't mean you get to ensnare a third party into what was ultimately YOUR decision. In fact, you should probably be compensating the man for his sperm if he decides to walk. What, do you think you get a child for free?

Men are just as responsible for birth control as women.

**AltoidaMintera** · 08-20-2012, 10:55 AM

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	::sound of privilege imploding:: Your body, your choice, your responsibility toots! Just because you decide to play at being a mommy doesn't mean you get to ensnare a third party into what was ultimately YOUR decision. In fact, you should probably be compensating the man for his sperm if he decides to walk. What, do you think you get a child for free?

I hesitate to even respond to this, but it has me laughing so hard I can't resist.

I'm going to assume you have an intimate relationship with your right hand, seeing that you are so frightened of sexual relations with scary preying mantis-like females. You can't be too careful!! Us scary women can't wait to ensnare men for their sperm. My life revolves around thinking of horrifically awesome ways to entrap a man into a lifetime of responsibility. Men should beware, my skills in the sack are honed only for the purpose of procreation and making men miserable - my little eggs need fertilizing!

**Silverity** · 08-20-2012, 11:00 AM

Yeah I don't really have a lot of sympathy. You can choose to wear a condom, regardless if she's on the pill or not, and if she says no, walk away. Oh so difficult.

**Arcanist** · 08-20-2012, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by AltoidaMintera
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I hesitate to even respond to this, but it has me laughing so hard I can't resist.

I'm going to assume you have an intimate relationship with your right hand, seeing that you are so frightened of sexual relations with scary preying mantis-like females. You can't be too careful!! Us scary women can't wait to ensnare men for their sperm. My life revolves around thinking of horrifically awesome ways to entrap a man into a lifetime of responsibility. Men should beware, my skills in the sack are honed only for the purpose of procreation and making men miserable - my little eggs need fertilizing!

Actually, my dear, I'm ace. Cute shaming attempt though.

Even though I don't have a stake in this game, I'm still concerned about the ethical implications. Just as a woman has the right to her own body through the concept of self-ownership, the same right extends to the man. Which means he should not be forced to serve the needs of another. That doesn't change just because it's a helpless baby.

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	Men are just as responsible for birth control as women.

I agree. Which is why this is a great development.

**AltoidaMintera** · 08-20-2012, 11:09 AM

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Actually, my dear, I'm ace. Cute shaming attempt though.

Even though I don't have a stake in this game, I'm still concerned about the ethical implications. Just as a woman has the right to her own body through the concept of self-ownership, the same right extends to the man. Which means he should not be forced to serve the needs of another. That doesn't change just because it's a helpless baby.

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I agree. Which is why this is a great development.

I don't disagree that a male birth control pill would be awesome. One more tool in the toolbox, so to speak. However, laying all the responsibility on ONE party when clearly it takes TWO... fallacy, fallacy, fallacy.

And thanks -- I thought it was cute too
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**JC22** · 08-20-2012, 11:14 AM

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**Arcanist** · 08-20-2012, 11:16 AM

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	I don't disagree that a male birth control pill would be awesome. One more tool in the toolbox, so to speak. However, laying all the responsibility on ONE party when clearly it takes TWO... fallacy, fallacy, fallacy. And thanks -- I thought it was cute too To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Well, you have all the choice when you're pregnant, correct? The man doesn't get any input, and rightfully so, because it's your body and your fetus.

**Distance** · 08-20-2012, 11:21 AM

Whoah people. The who's the biggest victim game!

Two-way accountability can only be a step forward, even though condoms and birth control have been around for a long time. Irresponsible people will always find an excuse to blame others for personal choice to either not wear a condom and/or to not use some form of female birth control.

The other problem with birth control of any form is cost and access. Since cost is a barrier for entry (ha ha) it really is cheaper on taxpayers to supplement birth control, than the cost of 18 years of child/parent(s) support. Religious beliefs can also be a barrier for entry, in how religion stigmatises the entire concept of sex, making it shameful so people secretly do crazy shit to get some. This includes being ashamed to purchase or use birth control.

**Seriously** · 08-20-2012, 11:23 AM

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	Well, you have all the choice when you're pregnant, correct? The man doesn't get any input, and rightfully so, because it's your body and your fetus.

Get off the fucking cross and buy some damn condoms.

Jesus.

And thank god hopefully it will stop this kind of whining.

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Arcanist Core Member [132%] MBTI: xxxx Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,282	Of course. Females have legal privilege and the ability to enslave men at will, with the birth of a child. I would take this pill and hamstring the female's legal power.
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thod Core Member [162%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,508	Even amongst married couples it is common for the man to wish to delay childrearing. Lots of women so desire to be mothers than they will 'forget to take the pill'. They will even do this when unmarried in order to obtain the motherhood life. If men could control their own fertility this option is removed and there will be a lot more frustrated women out there. I reckon male birth control will be a big hit with men.
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Distance Core Member [410%] MBTI: eNTj Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 16,433	It's a great idea, particularly if they both use contraceptives. This will help to ensure that no unwanted pregnancies occur.
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Silverity Core Member [274%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 10,995	I think it's a positive development, I personally don't know any guys who would actually use it, but I'm sure there are plenty out there. My only hope/concern is that people don't think they are suddenly invincible and forego condoms. A pill might save you from a baby but now that we have drug resistant STIs out there.... condoms definitely aren't going anywhere.
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ModernLit Core Member [181%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 7,278	i don't think most men would remember to take a pill everyday. maybe some really responsible, organized men. hopefully in any serious relationship a lot has been talked through and gone over and a mutual decision is made to satisfy everyone and also keep everyone STI safe. i agree condoms aren't going anywhere, though. they are definitely still needed.
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themuzicman Core Member [284%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,364	I think a lot of guys are going to think of this as an alternative to a condom.
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Zsych Core Member [309%] MBTI: XNTX Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,367	The stopped sperm production seems to be an unexpected side-effect of people trying to do something else. Who can say what the long term side-effects of this thing on a human are. That said, I think the man should take responsibility and use a condom or whatever.
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08-20-2012, 05:29 AM	#13
topquark Member [21%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 840	Great news, gives men more options to control their fertility. If I were a man, I would get a vasectomy out of fear of being made into a father against my will (at least as a woman, I have abortion as a last resort), but it must be very difficult for men who want children one day to protect themselves, if for some reason they can't use condoms. I hope it becomes available soon.
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Silverity Core Member [274%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 10,995	Yeah I don't really have a lot of sympathy. You can choose to wear a condom, regardless if she's on the pill or not, and if she says no, walk away. Oh so difficult.
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Distance Core Member [410%] MBTI: eNTj Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 16,433	Whoah people. The who's the biggest victim game! Two-way accountability can only be a step forward, even though condoms and birth control have been around for a long time. Irresponsible people will always find an excuse to blame others for personal choice to either not wear a condom and/or to not use some form of female birth control. The other problem with birth control of any form is cost and access. Since cost is a barrier for entry (ha ha) it really is cheaper on taxpayers to supplement birth control, than the cost of 18 years of child/parent(s) support. Religious beliefs can also be a barrier for entry, in how religion stigmatises the entire concept of sex, making it shameful so people secretly do crazy shit to get some. This includes being ashamed to purchase or use birth control.
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