[UltraIncredible]

Make a pact with 4 of your friends that you'll all sleep with women by the end of the summer. Make sure one of these friends is a total douche, another is weird and effeminate, still another is a jock with a heart of gold, and the last one has sex with fresh-baked pastries. Wacky coming-of-age hilariousness will ensue, and everyone will end up getting laid.

[anticlimatic]

To get a girlfriend you must first court one. The methods for it have changed over the centuries, but there are still fundamental rituals and processes that must be tended to, to make it happen.


1) Find a girl who catches your interest, and who is interested in you. At this point the only sign of interest you need is a desire to keep talking to you.

2) Scheduled alone time. Doesn't have to be a 'date,' but something you can set up in advance, and do together. More talking should ensue.

3) Repeat #2 as much as possible, and as often as possible.

4) The coup de gras. Where alone time meets physical contact. Balance patience with progression.

5) Repeat #4 as much as possible, and as often as possible.


To get a girlfriend you need to move into her mind, and make yourself as large there as you're comfortable being. This happens with time, and repetition. Good luck!

[KeepItReal]

	Originally Posted by The Dan Keizer To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Jesus Christ, kid, take it easy on yourself. You'll get the pussy as long as you keep trying. And what's with you passing up the fat bitch? Fat bitches are great fun. Pro-Tip: Don't pass up the pussy, kid.

Disagree with all three points.

1) Don't keep trying to get the pussy, you'll come across as a desperate punk who only wants to get laid, girls pick up on that very quickly. They will then either stick around and cock tease you to death or immediately put you in the jerk zone and avoid you like the plague.

2) Fat women may well be fun to be around, but if you're not attracted to them then you will never really connect or have any true passion when having sex, which will diminish the whole experience.

3) Never drop your standards son, it's much better to pass on a dozen 5's and eventually get a perfect 10 that you're crazy about. Always think quality over quantity, besides you can easily make up for all the sex you turned down by doing overtime on your dream girl when you finally hook up with her.

Passing up on pussy is essential. Its a sign of maturity and shows you have good taste. Most guys who bang anything that's offered to them will never get to sleep with a woman of exquisite beauty as they get used to the easy score. Beautiful women are also extremely sharp and street-wise, they won't be impressed with a guy whose previous girlfriends were ugly skanks and will think less of you or even just string you along while making fun of you behind your back.

On to your original question. The traits you mention are typical INTJ'ness, unfortunately I doubt there is any way to 100% 'fix' them. What you can do is find ways to use them to your advantage. Like other people have said, it can come across as you being 'hard to get' which beautiful women always find attractive. The hotter the woman, the higher her suspicion of men and their intentions, remember they are getting hit on by assholes 24/7, so giving the impression that you are almost asexual makes them feel you can be trusted and gives you entry in to their world. Be careful though, once inside you have to make your move before they think of you as just a friend, but don't be too upfront about it, be subtle by taking small steps forward and reading her reactions. The best way is to pretend you are slowly falling for her personality, not her looks. Act almost surprised that you've come to like her so much because you've always thought that gorgeous girls are usually fucked up bitches. Make her feel special and think you are unique.

Now this girl that you like, ask her out to see a movie, but not as a 'date' just yet, say nobody else wants to see it and you'd like some company. Be as relaxed and charming and non-sexual as you can. Go out with her a few more times just like this and she will be fascinated, even infatuated with you and eventually start flirting. Then you find the right moment and humorously say something like 'you know, people are saying we are a couple now, are we?' Gently play off her responses and slowly reel that fish in my boy!

[ModernLit]

you get a very large net... and wait outside in the bushes. when your target approaches, cast your net. viola, you've caught yourself a girl :D

[Solitielor]

	Originally Posted by ModernLit To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	you get a very large net... and wait outside in the bushes. when your target approaches, cast your net. viola, you've caught yourself a girl :D

No! You need a bait! Use something like... banana(??)!!

If all else fails: go caveman.

[Lolwut]

Have you asked out a girl before?

[elpaco]

I think it is time you maximize your chances to get some experience in the dating field. Forget about finding the perfect lover the first time, this is about you learning the trade.

So the first step is to open up all channels to get into contact with a lot of girls, that means the bar on friday, online dating from Monday till Wednesday and Yoga Class on Thursday. Talk to girls, cook for girls, hang out with girls and eventually when it feels right lose your virginity. And when the love of your live comes a long at least you know how to deal with her.

Running out of subjects is bs I think, you are not able to connect and be yourself and therefor display a version of your boring self. We INTJs are in fact never boring and very funny when feeling comfortable. If your are not able to reach your laid back state of mind, you won't be able to show that side. therefore experience and overcoming barriers is vital.

Oh and a little alcohol helps too.

[wolfyx]

What elpaco said. Be social or be alone. The chances of a hot girl knocking at your door and asking you out are close to none (even if you look like Brad Pitt).

[zibber]

	Originally Posted by Kadadj To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	(she was fat though) the problem lies with my personality faggot

I think the problem lies with your personality.

[Dix]

Most of all - keep calm. When I was 18 I was also still a virgin, but I was engaged in many other interesting activities (imo better then having sex) such as traveling. Anyway, sooner or later you will get laid - just be patient. My firrst girlfriend was very attractive, but it took about 6-7 months for us to end up in bed together. The clue is, that girls like to talk a lot, and are constantly seeking attention, so it is a good idea to listen to them carefully (you shoudn`t have a problem with this) and give them advices on their problems. Just remember to be delicate - it takes a few weeks to develop a diplomatic way to give such advices.

[Kadadj]

	Originally Posted by Lolwut To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Have you asked out a girl before?

No. I've been asked out before though.

---------- Post added 08-08-2012 at 04:35 PM ----------

	Originally Posted by zibber To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I think the problem lies with your personality.

1: What's wrong with having standards? If I put on 50kg, should I expect women to want to have sex with me?
2: Agreed.
3: What's wrong with using that word? I'm not using it to offend people who classifies themselves as faggots, I'm using the word for it's connotations.

[ntwady]

	Originally Posted by Kadadj To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	3: What's wrong with using that word? I'm not using it to offend people who classifies themselves as faggots, I'm using the word for it's connotations.

When you grow up, you're going to cringe that you used hateful language in casual language. It's totally unacceptable, unless --of course-- you never change.

[sunitaishot]

be confident, and other associated contemporary buzzwords lol..

I don't think there is a singular means to get a gf. Just be yourself, since there are a multitude of tastes.

[Jade333]

	Originally Posted by Kadadj To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Sure, but then again, it's disgusting. I might do it if I got drunk as hell or something, but even then I doubt it. I also tend to think stupid people are uglier, and she's a fucking retard.

So is the point getting laid or is the point in connecting with someone who isn't, by your standards, stupid?
If the point is to get lost on virginity, then you take the opportunity on this girl. If the point is to find a connection, you've got some pretty good advice here with above posts. You're going to first have to find some type of social etiquette regarding your choice of words. The hand holding idea is a good tactic.

[RedN]

take classes? some say its BS but I got a date on the 3rd day.

go out! stop hunting for them online!

get in the current trend. observe people, see what the women want, see how the flow goes. just basically get familiar with the scene, you cant excel at anything without knowing anything about it - in this case, make a woman choose to go with you instead of other guys - and if shes nice, there WILL be other guys.

the more you do it the more you get used to it. its like first day of class, youre so all crazy and shit til next day comes and the next and its just another day... whatever chicken shit feeling youd feel, just swallow it and say 'fuck this, lets make this happen, who cares if i fail theres a ton other women out there'.

try to build some character, i mean even for yourself you know. women dont want some brooding, self loathing guy who does nothing but sit in his couch or bed all day... you have to show theyre gonna like and enjoy actually being with you, not suffer. you have to show you may have flaws but you have good stuff too - no one is perfect, and it makes you more human, more sincere in the approach.

compliment, but not excessively. just one line a date. take her out, OFFER to take her out! ask what she likes, what shes into, again do research by talking to her then get her one of those things shes been wanting. be it to go to the beach in my case, when the guy took me there a few hours after I said it... i thought it was sweet as hell.

stop the BS in your mind that i'll forever gonna be alone and im a fuckin loser and no girl would want me! thats BS, BS man! be a freakin man for gods sake, and just be honest with yourself and fuck the probabilities you know... if you want a woman, you want one and thats IT, and so you get one for yourself eh.

this is not jsut for you but for some others out there.

if you have nothing nice to say, just get physically affectionate. hug her, massage a part of her a little or kiss her a bit.

youre a guy, a GUY OK!!! not a chicken shit wuss!!! women want men! not farm animals, unless theyre fucked up in the head! try to think that if youre getting cold and you know worried or whatever... if youre gonna act like a girl, find a guy to fuck you instead! is that what you want??? NO RIGHT?!.. i ehm.. then again... like i said just take it as some mantra hahahaha

[Kadadj]

Originally Posted by Jade333 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

So is the point getting laid or is the point in connecting with someone who isn't, by your standards, stupid? If the point is to get lost on virginity, then you take the opportunity on this girl. If the point is to find a connection, you've got some pretty good advice here with above posts. You're going to first have to find some type of social etiquette regarding your choice of words. The hand holding idea is a good tactic.

The point isn't losing my virginity. But rather developing a connection, which then might lead to sex, but also interesting conversations and so on.
Just because I'm thirsty, I'm not going to drink mud water.

[curiousgeorge01]

Originally Posted by Kadadj To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I tried finding a title that didn't sound stupid, and I failed. I'm 18, male. I've never had a girlfriend, and I'm also a virgin (as the header of this page accurately pointed out). There's a girl in my class (I feel like a faggot for writing this), that is really attractive, and we share a lot of personality traits and opinions, which is rare for me. She's also pretty sexual, which I obviously like, but at the same time makes me uncomfortable. She has flaws, but then again, everyone does. Can any fellow INTJ's help?

What's the big deal? I didn't date until I was 22.

So what's keeping you from asking this girl out?

[dubyuh]

	Originally Posted by curiousgeorge01 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	What's the big deal? I didn't date until I was 22. So what's keeping you from asking this girl out?

Exactly. It sounds like you and this girl you mentioned already have been introduced and are compatible. So all that is left is for you is to pull out your tampon, grow a pair, and ask her out. Don't go to the movies; I always think it is better to do something physical (like a walk) since humans tend to bond when they do physical activities together.

[Espadrille]

	Originally Posted by Kadadj To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I didn't mean to come across as self loathing, I actually like who I am, I just don't know how to get close to people. That's probably the main issue here.

If this is the case then maybe you are too young to have a girlfriend. If you have trouble with closeness then you aren't really going to appreciate having sex with someone.

Keep masturbating and have fun being around people until you feel more comfortable.

[zeroemission]

	Fat women may well be fun to be around, but if you're not attracted to them then you will never really connect or have any true passion when having sex, which will diminish the whole experience.

or, the gal will turn fatal attraction on you and you don't want that.

one tip that would help a lot, especially in the exuding an air of confidence is to practice making and holding eye contact. just being looked at turns some women on. when a woman sees you sizing her up and smiling, or maybe even thinking how bad you want to climb on it, they can't help but respond. a gorgeous, but flirty game playing, gal with glasses i worked with lost her mind over my shy smiling at her when i saw i'd be working with a hottie. she claimed love at first sight, but i'd call it drama. oh well, that's another story.

then there was another nerdy gal that grinned from ear to ear every time i glanced in her direction after she caught me smiling too.

there's your best in with the ladies, a friendly smile that you really mean.

[Kearley65]

I you want a girlfriend you are going to have to break out of your INTJ shell a little and open yourself to vulnerability. Now this is nothing an INTJ wants to do but they sort of have to do. Also, Be Yourself. Women can read fake. Most women want someone that is them self and comfortable with who they are.

[Vocal]

A-ssssssss-k.....

[80085]

Two things,

1.) In my experience women are like bees, they can smell fear. If you show fear there is a good chance you're going to get stung... Thus, confidence and a thick skin will give you the best probability of honey. My fiance told me I had a mysterious, humorous confidence which compelled her to want to know me better. Its funny because when we met I was thinking "holy shit, I can't talk to you. You're way out of my league".

2.) After dating her awhile there were times when I felt like I was in Vietnam in that I would try to help this little kid and grenade would go off in my face. For instance, one morning I was brushing my teeth and all of a sudden there was a melt down happening in the room I had left not 5 minutes ago. From what I'm told this is normal and its best to lay low for awhile unit it runs its course. In other words, if things seem fine then out of the blue she's cold, just lay low and let it blow over. Over eagerness to help is not rewarded.

That's all I got, I can't say it works for everyone.

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I probably don't need to tell you this because you're an INTJ, but confidence does not equal cocky.

[laican]

	Originally Posted by Kadadj To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	so the problem lies with my personality, my lack of initiative, my difficulty expressing emotion, and my general lack of to get out of my comfort zone. I can talk to people, but generally run out of subjects to talk about quickly. Though, I am good with witty remarks/observations, and sarcasm.

Openly expressing emotions isn't necessary. You can show that you care in other ways such as spending time with her, demonstrating that you are interested in what she has to say, making her laugh, buying her small gifts, and so on.

You will benefit from showing more initiative. If you are interested in a girl, then try to pursue her with some more focus. Let her know about your intentions, then it will be up to her to decide whether to reciprocate or not.

[Collide]

	Originally Posted by Kadadj To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	No. I've been asked out before though. ---------- Post added 08-08-2012 at 04:35 PM ---------- 1: What's wrong with having standards? If I put on 50kg, should I expect women to want to have sex with me? 2: Agreed. 3: What's wrong with using that word? I'm not using it to offend people who classifies themselves as faggots, I'm using the word for it's connotations.

The problem with #1 is that you may be assessing yourself as a catch. You could have some horrible defect that you are unaware of. Anyway, I wouldn't consider dating a guy who uses "faggot" for negative connotations...