Book publication

**Ricardo Diaz** · 07-26-2012, 04:47 PM

Any authors on here who got their books on the shelves?

How do you aggressively get it out there? Best seller list.

**mieu** · 07-26-2012, 07:52 PM

"How to bed 100 women in six months" is really catchy. I mean if 'Fifty Shades of Grey' is any indication...make sure it has numbers in it.

EDIT: Oh but I wouldn't follow their lead for cover art. I think the book would have done much better with some thigh gap.

**Ricardo Diaz** · 07-26-2012, 08:36 PM

I want to push it really hard. Like get it on the shelf of every book store and best seller list out there. How does that happen? Can't be quality.

**Paul Siraisi** · 07-27-2012, 08:58 AM

Thank you Google:

To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

**Still Standing** · 07-27-2012, 09:53 AM

Get with the 2000s. Opt for a
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Moxiie · 07-27-2012, 12:46 PM

I lived with a published novelist for years, he spent about a year procuring an agent who then got him published. You have to send out 100's of letters and writing sample (chapter or so) to agents until one asks you to send the whole manuscript. Then it's onto them trying to sell you to a big publishing house which also amounts to dozens of rejections.

Takes patience and the ability to withstand brutal rejection.

Another friend just self published and has cleared about 30k in his first year book sales. It's expensive but you get all the profits. The bitch there is that you MUST be an ace and shameless self promoter or you won't sell books. You are your own marketing department.

My original friend is now going to self publish - and will be using all his extrovert friends to work on his marketing campaign (He's an ISFP, with 100% I and 100% F - needless to say, he sucks at self marketing)

**Ricardo Diaz** · 07-27-2012, 01:23 PM

So you need to make a publisher fear you.

**ummon** · 07-27-2012, 02:00 PM

	Originally Posted by Ricardo Diaz To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Any authors on here who got their books on the shelves? How do you aggressively get it out there? Best seller list.

I believe the biggest market out there is for advice books. One possible topic is "How to publish a best-seller."

**Feral** · 07-29-2012, 09:47 AM

Do you already have it fully written, edited, rewritten, and proofed?

**Ricardo Diaz** · 08-01-2012, 02:38 AM

	Originally Posted by Feral To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Do you already have it fully written, edited, rewritten, and proofed?

No, that isn't as important.

**Saggita** · 08-01-2012, 03:55 AM

So you want to sell the book, but you don't have the book, and think it's not important? Good luck with that, mate.Wanting to have a best seller and not even caring to put your butt on the chair and writing is the very first mistake.

You can't have a best seller if you don't have the book.

**Ricardo Diaz** · 08-01-2012, 10:19 PM

Well, obviously, we are working with the assumption that the book is done. Then what?

**UltraIncredible** · 08-01-2012, 10:50 PM

	Originally Posted by mieu To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	"How to bed 100 women in six months" is really catchy. I mean if 'Fifty Shades of Grey' is any indication...make sure it has numbers in it.

	Originally Posted by Saggita To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	You can't have a best seller if you don't have the book.

	Originally Posted by Ricardo Diaz To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Well, obviously, we are working with the assumption that the book is done. Then what?

Step 1: Make money.
Step 2: Find a woman.
Step 3: Ask if she will have sex for money.
Step 4: If she says no, repeat steps 2 and 3 until you get a yes.
Step 5: Repeat to Step 4 100 times over six months.

The End.

Now it is no longer an assumption. YOU'RE WELCOME

**Phaze228** · 08-01-2012, 11:28 PM

	Originally Posted by Ricardo Diaz To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Well, obviously, we are working with the assumption that the book is done. Then what?

Business perspective says, is it worth it? If it's not apparent, make up some false statistics about why it would be great.
Or you could make friends with someone in the publishing company to give you a leg up. Or better yet, make a good fucking book.

**Grimace** · 08-02-2012, 01:23 AM

Honestly, you'll find more lasting success as a writer (not to mention fulfillment) if you focus on the writing first.

Not to say a shill can't shill, but that this is often short lived.

But, that said, yes, get an agent; they take about 15%, which, seeing as they do a lot of hard industry work that you likely suck at, is fair. Self marketing is a more recently viable thing with the internet, but short of you being either very clever or very good, may not amount to much.

**ModernLit** · 08-02-2012, 01:33 AM

	Originally Posted by Ricardo Diaz To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	No, that isn't as important.

um, false.

**Aeon** · 08-03-2012, 10:33 AM

	Originally Posted by Ricardo Diaz To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I want to push it really hard. Like get it on the shelf of every book store and best seller list out there. How does that happen? Can't be quality.

Given the nature of your threads as of late, this made me LOL.

07-26-2012, 04:47 PM	#1
Ricardo Diaz Member [19%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 788	Any authors on here who got their books on the shelves? How do you aggressively get it out there? Best seller list.
Ricardo Diaz is offline post a comment

07-26-2012, 07:52 PM	#2
mieu Core Member [183%] $/)^3^(\$ MBTI: xNTx Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,344	"How to bed 100 women in six months" is really catchy. I mean if 'Fifty Shades of Grey' is any indication...make sure it has numbers in it. EDIT: Oh but I wouldn't follow their lead for cover art. I think the book would have done much better with some thigh gap.
mieu is offline post a comment

07-26-2012, 08:36 PM	#3
Ricardo Diaz Member [19%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 788	I want to push it really hard. Like get it on the shelf of every book store and best seller list out there. How does that happen? Can't be quality.
Ricardo Diaz is offline post a comment

07-27-2012, 08:58 AM	#4
Paul Siraisi Veteran Member [65%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,600	Thank you Google: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Paul Siraisi is offline post a comment

07-27-2012, 09:53 AM	#5
Still Standing Core Member [138%] MBTI: Isfp Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,543	Get with the 2000s. Opt for a To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Still Standing is offline post a comment

07-27-2012, 12:46 PM	#6
Moxiie Core Member [209%] MBTI: eNfP Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8,394	I lived with a published novelist for years, he spent about a year procuring an agent who then got him published. You have to send out 100's of letters and writing sample (chapter or so) to agents until one asks you to send the whole manuscript. Then it's onto them trying to sell you to a big publishing house which also amounts to dozens of rejections. Takes patience and the ability to withstand brutal rejection. Another friend just self published and has cleared about 30k in his first year book sales. It's expensive but you get all the profits. The bitch there is that you MUST be an ace and shameless self promoter or you won't sell books. You are your own marketing department. My original friend is now going to self publish - and will be using all his extrovert friends to work on his marketing campaign (He's an ISFP, with 100% I and 100% F - needless to say, he sucks at self marketing)
Moxiie is online post a comment

07-27-2012, 01:23 PM	#7
Ricardo Diaz Member [19%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 788	So you need to make a publisher fear you.
Ricardo Diaz is offline post a comment

07-29-2012, 09:47 AM	#9
Feral Veteran Member [59%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,376	Do you already have it fully written, edited, rewritten, and proofed?
Feral is offline post a comment

08-01-2012, 03:55 AM	#11
Saggita Member [17%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 705	So you want to sell the book, but you don't have the book, and think it's not important? Good luck with that, mate.Wanting to have a best seller and not even caring to put your butt on the chair and writing is the very first mistake. You can't have a best seller if you don't have the book.
Saggita is offline post a comment

08-01-2012, 10:19 PM	#12
Ricardo Diaz Member [19%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 788	Well, obviously, we are working with the assumption that the book is done. Then what?
Ricardo Diaz is offline post a comment

08-02-2012, 01:23 AM	#15
Grimace Member [12%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 486	Honestly, you'll find more lasting success as a writer (not to mention fulfillment) if you focus on the writing first. Not to say a shill can't shill, but that this is often short lived. But, that said, yes, get an agent; they take about 15%, which, seeing as they do a lot of hard industry work that you likely suck at, is fair. Self marketing is a more recently viable thing with the internet, but short of you being either very clever or very good, may not amount to much.
Grimace is offline post a comment