[Distance]

	Originally Posted by Booko To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	This assumes the man wears a ring, and if he does, he's wearing it when he sees you, and if he takes it off it isn't obvious that he's done so.

If you take off your ring(s), you'll see the band.
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[Fishism]

	Originally Posted by Booko To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	This assumes the man wears a ring, and if he does, he's wearing it when he sees you, and if he takes it off it isn't obvious that he's done so.

I kind of was using the ring as an exaggerated metaphor. So if the man is lying to his wife about his "side whore" and his side whore about his wife, well, then, he's a prick with a capital P and he deserves all the crap that comes with that situation.

[24601]

	Originally Posted by Distance To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	While I agree the third party isn't wholly responsible, to deny any responsibility in the degeneration of the marriage would be delusional.

It's delusional to place any responsibility on anyone outside the marriage. There are two people in a marriage, and it's their relationship. Hell, I had a woman purposely try to ruin my relationship, but my partner was the moron who went for it. You can't be led astray unless you're willing. Do I hate the bitch? Sure. But ultimately, it was my partner's decision.

Originally Posted by Fishism To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Also, on a primal level, the 3rd party is rarely considered innocent. There's a reason why a lot of 3rd parties end up hospitalized or killed. Whether one likes the idea of it or not, the 3rd party is a threat to the sanctity of marriage/family. The wedding ring says "attached, not for you". Ignore the ring and face the wrath of the jilted and jealous. There are two guilty parties: The cheater and the 3rd party. Many men I know would suggest the initial reaction is to off both of them.

Under this theory, rape victims were "asking for it." Lots of abuse victims, including children, have had their asses jumped for being "little whores." And plenty of marriages are open. The "sanctity of marriage" is just a bunch of crap - You're assuming all marriages here are ran by little perfect straight couples.

People having affairs lie, mislead, and do all kinds of crap. Hell, I've known a man who pretended to be a widower. The third party can only look out for himself or herself, and ultimately, partners in the marriage are the only responsible parties. You're not allowed to assault people just because they slept with someone you slept with. That's barbaric and ignorant.

	Originally Posted by Booko To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	This assumes the man wears a ring, and if he does, he's wearing it when he sees you, and if he takes it off it isn't obvious that he's done so.

Thank you.

[AnnaMolly]

	Originally Posted by 24601 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	How does it make you not decent when you don't even know the spouse of the partner?

This would only make sense, imo, if you said "How does it make you not decent when you don't even know the person is married?"

True, if you don't know whether the person you're hooking up is married or in a relationship, your behaviour isn't indecent.

But as soon as you either know that they are, or have reasonable cause to assume it, your behaviour is of course very much heartless and indecent, and this is -- of course! -- independent of whether you know the person's spouse or not. I don't even understand the thought process of "Well I don't know her / him, so it's not so bad." That's like saying "I don't even know whose house I'm robbing, so it's not that bad." An unethical act is unethical, whether you know the victim and thus personally betray them, or whether you simply do something that you know is very likely to hurt an innocent person.

	Originally Posted by curiousgeorge01 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	A big part of being a man is chasing a woman and sexual variety. When you're married, that part of you doesn't die.

Thanks for saying this! This is one of my major reasons for not wanting anything to do with a guy who can seperate love and sex, had one-night stands or affairs, or is in general someone who enjoys "the game". People very often think I'm being "too strict" in this area. Pffft. I know what I want and why I want it.
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[Fishism]

	Originally Posted by 24601 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	It's delusional to place any responsibility on anyone outside the marriage. There are two people in a marriage, and it's their relationship. Hell, I had a woman purposely try to ruin my relationship, but my partner was the moron who went for it. You can't be led astray unless you're willing. Do I hate the bitch? Sure. But ultimately, it was my partner's decision.

Why do you hate her? According to you, she's done nothing wrong. Ultimately, it was your partner's decision. You should take her to lunch and talk about your ex's shortcomings. I'm sure she's a wonderful person.

	Originally Posted by 24601 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Under this theory, rape victims were "asking for it." Lots of abuse victims, including children, have had their asses jumped for being "little whores." And plenty of marriages are open. The "sanctity of marriage" is just a bunch of crap - You're assuming all marriages here are ran by little perfect straight couples.

Never said any of these things. Thanks though. Stick to the topic I DID say and tell me that 3rd party folks who interfere in relationships do not end up hospitalized for their transgressions? Did I just make up the entire "jealous rage" concept on my own?

	Originally Posted by 24601 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	People having affairs lie, mislead, and do all kinds of crap. Hell, I've known a man who pretended to be a widower. The third party can only look out for himself or herself, and ultimately, partners in the marriage are the only responsible parties. You're not allowed to assault people just because they slept with someone you slept with. That's barbaric and ignorant.

I did not suggest assaulting a significant other's lover was "allowed". I only suggested that it happens. Barbaric and ignorant? Yes, hence my use of the word "primal". Thanks for agreeing with me.

[curiousgeorge01]

Originally Posted by AnnaMolly To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Thanks for saying this! This is one of my major reasons for not wanting anything to do with a guy who can seperate love and sex, had one-night stands or affairs, or is in general someone who enjoys "the game". People very often think I'm being "too strict" in this area. Pffft. I know what I want and why I want it. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Yea a lot of women are ok with it as long as the man is a provider and doesn't leave. Usually it's if he's a really good provider.

[Distance]

	Originally Posted by 24601 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	It's delusional to place any responsibility on anyone outside the marriage. There are two people in a marriage, and it's their relationship. Hell, I had a woman purposely try to ruin my relationship, but my partner was the moron who went for it. You can't be led astray unless you're willing. Do I hate the bitch? Sure. But ultimately, it was my partner's decision.

If you honestly believe that it was your partner's decision, why would you hate the third party? Stop, look and listen.

[Booko]

	Originally Posted by Fishism To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I kind of was using the ring as an exaggerated metaphor.

Oh, it's generally not a bad point even if you didn't mean it metaphorically.

	So if the man is lying to his wife about his "side whore" and his side whore about his wife, well, then, he's a prick with a capital P and he deserves all the crap that comes with that situation.

Yes, though I don't think the Other Woman necessarily deserves to be called a "side whore" since it actually does happen they have no idea the guy is married.