Why is it wrong to hit women?

**sunitaishot** · 07-09-2012, 08:34 PM

Is it something descended from chivalrous society?

Is it truly "inherently" wrong to attack a weaker person? Can a stronger man attack a weaker man in that case?

**ari** · 07-09-2012, 08:38 PM

It hurts, ouch!

**24601** · 07-09-2012, 08:38 PM

It's wrong to put your hands on anyone for any reason except self-defense or defending someone who can't defend themselves. Don't hit people.

**sunitaishot** · 07-09-2012, 08:41 PM

	Originally Posted by 24601 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	It's wrong to put your hands on anyone for any reason except self-defense or defending someone who can't defend themselves. Don't hit people.

Is this just modern morality, or some "absolute"?

**pure potential** · 07-09-2012, 08:44 PM

Why attack anyone? Deal with your issues, do your work. Leave others alone. The more you put it on them, the more you have to deal with in the end.

If you are feeling threatened, I would recommend reaching out to people you trust rather than reacting to your anxieties.

**sunitaishot** · 07-09-2012, 08:46 PM

	Originally Posted by pure potential To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Why attack anyone? Deal with your issues, do your work. Leave others alone. The more you put it on them, the more you have to deal with in the end. If you are feeling threatened, I would recommend reaching out to people you trust rather than reacting to your anxieties.

excuse me? All I am asking is why it's wrong to hit women. this is the philosophy forum, after all.

**plotthickens** · 07-09-2012, 08:47 PM

Stronger person attacking weaker person better have a damn good reason or is an asshole. Or ready to be a criminal. Or both.

Women have usually been seen as the weaker sex. Title IV is catching up, though; once gender stereotypes have as well, women like Sarah Robles will let you know exactly why hitting other people, regardless of gender or size, is a damn stupid idea. That is: skill is not visible.

**sunitaishot** · 07-09-2012, 08:51 PM

	Originally Posted by plotthickens To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Stronger person attacking weaker person better have a damn good reason or is an asshole. Or ready to be a criminal. Or both.

Why is this wrong?


	Women have usually been seen as the weaker sex. Title IV is catching up, though; once gender stereotypes have as well, women like Sarah Robles will let you know *exactly* why hitting other people, regardless of gender or size, is a damn stupid idea. That is: skill is not visible.

Yes, people respond to attacks, and?

Human nature aside (which doesn't exist), I don't see why asking this question is offensive.

**Autumnleaf** · 07-09-2012, 08:57 PM

Its just wrong. Like its wrong to hit a guy who is wearing glasses.

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**24601** · 07-09-2012, 09:00 PM

	Originally Posted by sunitaishot To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Is this just modern morality, or some "absolute"?

Obviously it's not an absolute universal thing. Are you familiar with the "rule of thumb?"

Just my personal opinion, which I am sure is right in this situation.
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**True Rune** · 07-09-2012, 09:01 PM

Better to ask why we do things rather than why we shouldn't do them.

**pure potential** · 07-09-2012, 09:02 PM

	Originally Posted by sunitaishot To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	excuse me? All I am asking is why it's wrong to hit women. this is the philosophy forum, after all.

Pardon, I wasn't attacking you. I was expressing my opinion that "attacking women = attacking". Even though it happens frequently, it's unnecessary. If anyone attacks another, it's due to their inability to effectively deal with an issue they are having. Yes it is common, but not constructive to anyone involved.

**painfulltruf** · 07-09-2012, 09:03 PM

Men don't hit women, pussies do.

**The Dan Keizer** · 07-09-2012, 09:07 PM

It is wrong to make the choice to hit anybody regardless of sex.

**JC22** · 07-09-2012, 09:12 PM

You shouldn't put your hands on anyone period.

**Autumnleaf** · 07-09-2012, 09:16 PM

	Originally Posted by The Dan Keizer To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	It is wrong to make the choice to hit anybody regardless of sex.

Even if they have it coming to them?

**BuShinJu** · 07-09-2012, 09:22 PM

You can do whatever you want.

You can go around hitting women until your knuckles bleed.

But others can do whatever they want, and some other people will want to stop you.

It's a cultural thing. In Viking times they used to walk around with an axe in their hand, because you could get jumped at any time. The women used to carry a small knife, a sax, specifically for defence against rape.

Now it's, we have to get along so here are the rules, if you don't want to follow them keep moving out to the fringes of society until it's culturally acceptable to do what you want to do, but even then someone will come and get you it just may take longer, hey Osama.

**The Dan Keizer** · 07-09-2012, 09:24 PM

	Originally Posted by Autumnleaf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Even if they have it coming to them?

What do they have coming that requires an assault?

**pure potential** · 07-09-2012, 09:34 PM

To clarify..

If you are a man.. why hit a woman? Why hit a child? Why hit another full grown man? When you are frustrated, and have a physical upper-hand, why hit anyone in reaching distance? Why??

Because you're pissed and you can. I recommend restraint, for all. Deal with your issues as best you can and ask for support if you need to.

ManWithNoName · 07-09-2012, 09:41 PM

Generally the use of violence in the manner you have listed is used when there is a disagreeance.

Just because you can back up your opinion, idea, or want, with violence dosen't make it any more sound or logical. I could state that the sun is blue not orange or yellow, and kill any who apposes me.

This is kind of one of the reasons why violence and the use of it is seen as unacceptable in terms of resolving arguments.

psykhe · 07-09-2012, 09:49 PM

My answer boils down to self-defence.

Anyone can attack anybody regardless of gender, but mostly I am of the opinion that such action can only be justified morally.

We're talking about the physical aspect, aren't we people? I think it's just wrong to physically attack someone who didn't lay a finger on you.

**Yardy** · 07-09-2012, 10:19 PM

	Originally Posted by Autumnleaf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Its just wrong. Like its wrong to hit a guy who is wearing glasses. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

If you're hitting someone, you've failed somewhere.

I wasn't going to post, but I hate that hair.

**Ender** · 07-09-2012, 11:22 PM

Like some others have said, or hinted at, woman are generally less muscular overall. I don't know how true that is now, but there's probably some genetics to it. Hitting someone who is physically weaker than you is generally considered bullying. Ergo, male hitting female = bad.

However, if you really want to get into the base morality of it all, no one should really be hitting anyone outside of: Training, Self-defense, or Combat (e.g. war, which is sometimes a form of self-defense). None of these are gender relevant.

In the case of something like a bar fight, not hitting women likely goes back to chivalry's popularity and could also be based in the fact that women are the ones who can reproduce, and are therefore more "precious" or "fragile" than men in terms of physical harm.

Seablue · 07-09-2012, 11:26 PM

	Originally Posted by sunitaishot To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Is it truly "inherently" wrong to attack a weaker person?

Yes, except when they're your kids, of course.

**N0c7urn3** · 07-10-2012, 01:16 AM

It's wrong to hit a defenseless innocent. If a woman is about to slap you because she thinks you won't respond, feel free to twist her arm off.

07-09-2012, 08:34 PM	#1
sunitaishot Banned MBTI: ENTJ Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3,572	Is it something descended from chivalrous society? Is it truly "inherently" wrong to attack a weaker person? Can a stronger man attack a weaker man in that case?
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07-09-2012, 08:38 PM	#2
ari New Member [01%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 54	It hurts, ouch!
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07-09-2012, 08:38 PM	#3
24601 Member [48%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,926	It's wrong to put your hands on anyone for any reason except self-defense or defending someone who can't defend themselves. Don't hit people.
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07-09-2012, 08:44 PM	#5
pure potential Member [41%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,672	Why attack anyone? Deal with your issues, do your work. Leave others alone. The more you put it on them, the more you have to deal with in the end. If you are feeling threatened, I would recommend reaching out to people you trust rather than reacting to your anxieties.
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07-09-2012, 08:47 PM	#7
plotthickens Core Member [677%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27,098	Stronger person attacking weaker person better have a damn good reason or is an asshole. Or ready to be a criminal. Or both. Women have usually been seen as the weaker sex. Title IV is catching up, though; once gender stereotypes have as well, women like Sarah Robles will let you know *exactly* why hitting other people, regardless of gender or size, is a damn stupid idea. That is: skill is not visible.
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07-09-2012, 08:57 PM	#9
Autumnleaf Core Member [234%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 9,399	Its just wrong. Like its wrong to hit a guy who is wearing glasses. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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True Rune Core Member [201%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8,062	Better to ask why we do things rather than why we shouldn't do them.
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The Dan Keizer Core Member [115%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 4,601	It is wrong to make the choice to hit anybody regardless of sex.
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JC22 Core Member [112%] MBTI: xxxx Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,509	You shouldn't put your hands on anyone period.
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07-09-2012, 09:22 PM	#17
BuShinJu Member [43%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,734	You can do whatever you want. You can go around hitting women until your knuckles bleed. But others can do whatever they want, and some other people will want to stop you. It's a cultural thing. In Viking times they used to walk around with an axe in their hand, because you could get jumped at any time. The women used to carry a small knife, a sax, specifically for defence against rape. Now it's, we have to get along so here are the rules, if you don't want to follow them keep moving out to the fringes of society until it's culturally acceptable to do what you want to do, but even then someone will come and get you it just may take longer, hey Osama.
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07-09-2012, 09:34 PM	#19
pure potential Member [41%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,672	To clarify.. If you are a man.. why hit a woman? Why hit a child? Why hit another full grown man? When you are frustrated, and have a physical upper-hand, why hit anyone in reaching distance? Why?? Because you're pissed and you can. I recommend restraint, for all. Deal with your issues as best you can and ask for support if you need to.
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07-09-2012, 09:41 PM	#20
ManWithNoName Core Member [209%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 8,374	Generally the use of violence in the manner you have listed is used when there is a disagreeance. Just because you can back up your opinion, idea, or want, with violence dosen't make it any more sound or logical. I could state that the sun is blue not orange or yellow, and kill any who apposes me. This is kind of one of the reasons why violence and the use of it is seen as unacceptable in terms of resolving arguments.
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07-09-2012, 09:49 PM	#21
psykhe Core Member [238%] MBTI: iNfJ Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 9,539	My answer boils down to self-defence. Anyone can attack anybody regardless of gender, but mostly I am of the opinion that such action can only be justified morally. We're talking about the physical aspect, aren't we people? I think it's just wrong to physically attack someone who didn't lay a finger on you.
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07-09-2012, 11:22 PM	#23
Ender Veteran Member [74%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,975	Like some others have said, or hinted at, woman are generally less muscular overall. I don't know how true that is now, but there's probably some genetics to it. Hitting someone who is physically weaker than you is generally considered bullying. Ergo, male hitting female = bad. However, if you really want to get into the base morality of it all, no one should really be hitting anyone outside of: Training, Self-defense, or Combat (e.g. war, which is sometimes a form of self-defense). None of these are gender relevant. In the case of something like a bar fight, not hitting women likely goes back to chivalry's popularity and could also be based in the fact that women are the ones who can reproduce, and are therefore more "precious" or "fragile" than men in terms of physical harm.
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07-10-2012, 01:16 AM	#25
N0c7urn3 Member [17%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 691	It's wrong to hit a defenseless innocent. If a woman is about to slap you because she thinks you won't respond, feel free to twist her arm off.
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