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Old 06-23-2012, 06:22 AM   #1
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Here are my ramblings about the aspect of emotions and thoughts and I was wondering about how other members here go about their everyday lives in this regard.
I just came to a conclusion that I'm not going to worry whatsoever about anything because it is of no benefit for me - it puts me into a bad mood, bad thoughts start popping into my mind etc etc. This is an observation I've been doing over the last few months which concluded in this post.
Why worry if you don't know something for certain, and if you do, why worry about it anyway? You either know you can do something about or you can't - it's as simple as that, and in either case you can avoid the feeling of anxiety, stress and other unwanted "effects" associated with the worry. For myself I decided it's just not worth it, however it may be different for others who might get a "boost" in terms of other emotions that empower you to take action or other "patterns" that may be of benefit which outweigh the negative ones.
I guess this all comes down to the aspect of "thought over heart" where I've decided which emotions are of benefit to me and which ones aren't based purely and solely on my own continuous observations rather than speculation and abstract thinking.
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:28 AM   #2
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Well if you don't worry about anything at all, that's a recipe for becoming depressed and suicidal.

You should probably just care about things that you can actually physically do things about (which is probably more than you think), and view the rest as you would the blowing wind.

You become happier when you use your efforts to change things for the better, it gives you a sense of efficacy.
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:59 AM   #3
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Why do you associate, link worry with care, they are not even close enough. When you care about something you are "feeling and exhibiting concern and empathy for other(s)", worrying is "thoughts, images and emotions of a negative nature in which mental attempts are made to avoid anticipated potential threats". Concern, again, is not worrying - "to relate to; be connected with; be of interest or importance to". I come to an agreement with the rest though Dan. Rightfully so you can choose whether the negative aspects of worrying are worth it for you personally, however for myself they are not.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:49 AM   #4
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Kind of hard to just stop worrying, you worry for a reason. I can somewhat see what you're getting at though it may be easier said than done.
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:52 AM   #5
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Hmm, I treat emotions as data and attempt to find what is causing said emotions/why they're being emitted. Once a sufficient conclusion is formulated, I begin to tinker with solutions to fix whatever it is my mind seemingly doesn't like. If it's something that is beyond fixing, I have to rationally talk it outloud to myself about how there isn't anything I can do and literally go through every possibility so that I'm consciously and subconsciously aware that I have no other options. Then the feeling either goes away (if I hit the root cause) or it doesn't (if I didn't hit the root cause). If it does go away, I continue on with life. If it doesn't, I go back into the examination phase and try to figure out what the root cause is.

I feel like this is the only real method to long term handling of emotions. Like, I dunno about you, but I don't "control" my emotions. I can control acting upon them, but I can't control feeling/experiencing them. Some people claim they can, and that's fine. However, for the rest of us, facing our problems and dissecting them is seemingly the only way to become at peace with them.

I agree with you on the worrying part. I'll list out the possibilities and once I have and there is no new data to come up with new possibilities, the worrying subsides. There is that point where you can or cannot do something, so I absolutely agree with ya there. I guess the difference is that I dabble with the theoretical to shut my mind up and also bring inner peace in a strange way.

I guess I'd augment your phrase and say "thought with heart --> freedom"
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Old 06-23-2012, 10:54 PM   #6
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I feel like this is the only real method to long term handling of emotions. Like, I dunno about you, but I don't "control" my emotions. I can control acting upon them, but I can't control feeling/experiencing them. Some people claim they can, and that's fine. However, for the rest of us, facing our problems and dissecting them is seemingly the only way to become at peace with them.

I guess I can control feeling/experiencing the emotions, however this is subjective because sometimes I get the feeling that I'm actually suppressing them instead of controlling. I'm usually at peace with myself which sometimes sucks as switching between the state of "being normal" and asking totally odd questions takes significant amount of time.
Having found my inner peace and finally the freedom to express myself without worrying about what others may think or say about it, it's the observation of the world that lead me creating this topic after all - i.e. when people are not conscious, present or aware enough to understand themselves well enough, rambling about something they have no clue whatsoever besides briefly hearing, reading or watching about it.
Being empty inside, even if that emptiness is a collection of random facts, figures, stories, impressions, emotions etc etc where the integral aspect is missing can be likened to building a skyscraper on a six inch slab of concrete. I won't go into detail here as it's already off-topic.

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Old 06-23-2012, 11:17 PM   #7
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Acolyte, you're giving a lot of good suggestions to INTJs. Relax and let go. Fix the things you can and stop obsessing about the things you can't.
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