[zeroemission]

i originally wanted to do a comprehensive survey with a bunch of questions like this then figured it'd be too much to ask 50 questions in one thread, so i'll just go through topics that interest me. i'll as this one now as i was reminded about it in a dating thread.

seeing just how much variation there is even here among other INTJs, i'm curious too see how much of an outsider i am even here as i've noticed that i might be the only person here that loves hip-hop (not gangsta rap either, but positivity inspiring dance music)

what do you consider yourself, a wreckless hedonist, an uptight prude, or something in between. rate your "hedonism level 1-10 with 10 being a total 24/7 party animal and 1 being a fussbudget of a party poopin' prude and 5 being neutral.

i'd say i'm a 5 or maybe even a 4. i have a couple minor vices and i'm POSITIVE porn & masturbation is a commonly shared one amongst INTJ males at least. really though, i lean towards being a goody goody and am happy with the simple things in life like music, cooking, bicycling and a bit of mood altering substances. as much as i've turned down sex with some amazingly beautiful women in my life and refused to go with the flow on anything kinky, i have to say i lean towards being a prude, but my philosophy is let consenting adults do their thing as long as it doesn't affect others. i don't like being around drunken orgies (or worse), but if i'm nowhere near them, they don't bother me either.

yeah... i'm a 4

what are you? mother theresa or snooky? mick jagger or al gore?

[Scrotus]

I don't feel like using your scale because it's restrictive.

As far as I am concerned with others: Stick what yee want in whatever yee want, as frequently as yee want so long as "whatever" is consenting and of age (or have whatever yee want stuck in yee etc etc...). I say consenting age because I don't support pedophiles acting on their innate attraction to children (aka sure u were born that way, but that doesn't mean you get to fuck kids. Sorry.) but I don't feel like going into the lengthy explanation, so I'm settling with 17 is okay for sexing. Forgive my laziness.

As far as for myself: I'm strange in that I don't want to mess around unless I'm in a relationship with that person. In my mind, a big component of the sexing has to do with the person caring about me and wanting to have said experience with me out of their own free will. The options to sleep around have been present, but I just don't get off on that. The pure physical satisfaction doesn't seem to drive me entirely. However, should I ever finally date, I'm pretty sure me and whomever will be at it like rabbits. The idea of participating in orgies doesn't excite me. This is all subject to change upon actually having sex.

I ate a weed brownie once. It made me have amplified sensations (including feelings (internal sensations)). I don't do drugs now because I didn't enjoy that. No desire to either. Altered perception isn't necessary because I'm already enthused by the complexity of nature and the universe. I also just really don't want to experience amplified sensations again lololol. You know that feeling when something is so cold it feels hot? I was laying on the kitchen floor and it cooled off my back, then suddenly my back felt like it was on fire. Fuck no. Never again.

Who knows what the future holds, but this is just how my mind is currently.

[Bullwinkle]

I vacillate wildly between the 2 extremes depending on how much bourbon I have consumed

[Tactical Panda]

I think I'm pretty much a "2".

I know my kryptonite, and thats what motivates me in that regard.
Plus I'm not a big fan of wasting health on something I'll regret more than I'd enjoy.

[zeroemission]

i tend to think that at least SOME here are way more indulgent than others. i wasn't just referring to sex & drugs either. i meant the entire "rock & roll lifestyle" thing... speeding, betting on pit bull fights, shoplifting for the adrenalin rush, overeating... anything basically that's "more than what you need" of anything.

i did have some lower impulse control when i was drinking, but i'm happy to report that i never hurt anyone in any way. that goes against my nature.

USUALLY whenever i get in trouble, someone else is egging me into it. i ESPECIALLY hate the piece of crap types that take pleasure in setting people up for some kind of trouble or another like talking someone into shoplifting and dropping a dime on them. that's hedonistic too.

i guess i view that concept as kind of a wreckless... eff it, i'm going to do whatever the eff i want and screw whoever gets in my way more than a measure of "how much of a substance you consume"

i'm taking the lack of answers to be a sign that some in here have a lot to be ashamed of. i know someone mentioned a gore collecting member. they're unlikely to come in here and openly admit that they have absolutely no impulse control.

not that she's an INTJ, i have a PURE HEDONIST neighbor that knows no shame and is impervious to guilt. other than that though, she's actually a nice gal that's kind to strangers. it takes all kinds, right?

[Shahira]

I'd say 7 for me. I do like to go out and party a bit, but I do enjoy having some time for myself. Now that I am going to uni after the summer I am going to go a bit mental.
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I love being in parties its just the whole atmosphere. Everyones having fun and having a great time and its just so contagious. You just can't help having fun too. I gave myself a 7, because I can be a bit hedonistic, but I do have a limit and I do like being by myself sometimes otherwise I'll just get really cranky and I wouldn't enjoy myself at all.

[NiTe Visor]

Holy shit Scrotus. Back on fire from smoking weed. I'm sorry, brah.

I guess I'm a 9. I'm not a 'party animal,' though. I used to drink and party when I was 19-21. It's become boring and alcohol is the most overrated drug imaginable. I'm pretty experimental with drugs. Up until 2 months ago I was a regular pot smoker. I was on a job hunt and found one. Still awaiting my drug test then it's back to smoking again! I've also tried tobacco, ecstasy, MDMA, cocaine, salvia, shrooms, xanax, vallum, klonopin, vicodin, DxM/robitussin/cough syrup, codeine, ritalin, vyvanse, adderall and JwH (synthetic THC).

I stick what I want, where I want, when I want, when my body tells me to (if there's consent and it appears that she's clean) with protection, of course. I have no remorse for 'sinning' when there's no one harmed. No victim, no crime. And the only time any remorse could even logically be expressed for something that strays away from the 'no victim, no crime' philosophy is if you do something that puts people at a high risk for being victimized, i.e. drunk driving.

Here's a story...a girl messaged me online a month ago. When I got back to her she gave me her number. We texted for a while and I ended up fucking her 10 hours later. She was 8 months and 3 weeks pregnant. Hedonist enough for ya?

[nashburn8]

8 right here

[peppersasen]

heathen (11).

[zeroemission]

too much hedonist for my tastes, but it's your life, and you aren't hurting anyone, have at it. your brutal honesty is appreciated.

me, i'll be the first to admit i dodge questions i don't want to answer as the alternative is lying which i hate to do. don't EVER play "follow my lead" with a lie. i'll eff it up every time, usually, without even speaking, trying to figure out why you're acting funny all of a sudden and tipping off the 3rd party that reads body language better than me

	Heathen (11).

i don't want to know

[endless]

It's been a while since my days of over-indulgence, but thats not to say I don't contemplate a return every so often.

No drugs for a while but I've been giving serious thought to a modafinil addiction.

Currently a 3 or a 4 perhaps, a girl recently asked me if I'd buy her gay friend a drink, I declined, she then asked if I'd buy her one instead, where once I'd have answered "why I don't I buy you both a drink and we will see what happens," I simply declined.

[AlfredSchnittke]

Basically I am a pure hedonist. If I am not doing something hedonistic I start thinking about death, or the absurdity of life, and become suicidal.

[Oros Ull]

I’m neutral I guess. I’ll try anything once and I love to find myself in weird places and situations. But I’m not reckless and I plan my actions pretty well, I’m more just curious then indulgent. But I’m very reserved about sex and careful about what I put in my body.

So 0 I suppose.

[AlfredSchnittke]

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	I’m neutral I guess. I’ll try anything once and I love to find myself in weird places and situations. But I’m not reckless and I plan my actions pretty well, I’m more just curious then indulgent. But I’m very reserved about sex and careful about what I put in my body. So 0 I suppose.

Wait, if you research your hedonistic activities then you aren't a hedonist?

I guess I'm a 0 as well then, as I meticulously research all of my hedonistic activities.

[Lilie]

I'm like a 2, on a scale where hedonism is all about sex and drugs. (And hip-hip, I guess.)

If we use the definition of hedonism where it's about pursuing pleasure and doing what you like to do, I'd be about an 8.

I just don't get that much out of sex and drugs, and (important for the definition of prude) am suspicious of people who do.

[Oros Ull]

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	Wait, if you research your hedonistic activities then you aren't a hedonist? I guess I'm a 0 as well then, as I meticulously research all of my hedonistic activities.

I guess, IDK. I'm not the athority.

I’ll do crazy stuff but I make sure I know what’s happening and prepare for it. I don’t just recklessly start shoveling drugs into my body while banging strange women. But I’m not against doing those things so long as they are done responsibly. Although I am extremely selective when it comes to both drugs and sex so while I enjoy them I’m not a fiend. I might just set aside a weekend every other month or so and cut loose a little.

[AlfredSchnittke]

So hedonism only applies to indulging in drugs and/or sex?...

I didn't realize that either.

Well shit, I guess I don't know what hedonism is then.

[Tocsin]

You need to allow for subtle variations between the disdain for pleasure and the pursuit of pleasure.

To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. is a system of philosophy based upon the teachings of Epicurus, founded around 307 BC. Epicurus was an atomic materialist, following in the steps of Democritus. His materialism led him to a general attack on superstition and divine intervention. Following Aristippus—about whom very little is known—Epicurus believed that pleasure is the greatest good. But the way to attain pleasure was to live modestly and to gain knowledge of the workings of the world and the limits of one's desires. This led one to attain a state of tranquility (ataraxia) and freedom from fear, as well as absence of bodily pain (aponia). The combination of these two states is supposed to constitute happiness in its highest form. Although Epicureanism is a form of hedonism, insofar as it declares pleasure as the sole intrinsic good, its conception of absence of pain as the greatest pleasure and its advocacy of a simple life make it different from "hedonism" as it is commonly understood. In modern popular usage, an epicure is a connoisseur of the arts of life and the refinements of sensual pleasures; epicureanism implies a love or knowledgeable enjoyment especially of good food and drink—see the definition of gourmet at Wiktionary. This can be attributed to a misunderstanding of the Epicurean doctrine, as promulgated by Christian polemicists. Because Epicureanism posits that pleasure is the ultimate good (telos), it is commonly misunderstood as a doctrine that advocates the partaking in fleeting pleasures such as constant partying, sexual excess and decadent food. This is not the case. Epicurus regarded ataraxia (tranquility, freedom from fear) and aponia (absence of pain) as the height of happiness. He also considered prudence an important virtue and perceived excess and overindulgence to be contrary to the attainment of ataraxia and aponia. In modern times Thomas Jefferson referred to himself as an Epicurean. Other modern-day Epicureans were Gassendi, Walter Charleton, François Bernier, Saint-Evremond, Ninon de l'Enclos, Diderot, and Jeremy Bentham. Christopher Hitchens referred to himself as an Epicurean. In France, Michel Onfray has been developing a post-modern approach to Epicureanism.

[Eyedears]

I'm 4ish or so: booze, drugs & fornication have never been part of my lifestyle, but pigging out (on chocolate, cookies, ice cream, donuts, cake or pie) is unfortunately constantly a source of "Battle of the Bulge" for me.
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[sunitaishot]

More of a hedonist. I think a liberal worldview is more realistic, as prudishness is too prescriptive.

[Othesemo]

Well, it depends. I don't think that your scale is terribly useful- for example, I hate parties with more than four or five other people. So if I were to go to one, it wouldn't be hedonism, it would be the equivalent of whipping myself. However, if we alter the scale to simply be a matter of pleasure, then I'd be about a 9.

[Bluestreak]

When it comes to things of a hedonistic nature, my belief is simple: If it won't get me hurt or arrested, it might be worth a try. I'm probably something like a 9.5/10.

[Majom]

I'm about a two.

[OhComeON]

I am an observer. So in public I may be considered like a 3. In the privacy of my own home, It's GAME ON! What I do is my business, but the definition of hedonism I am using in this context is: Pursuit of or devotion to pleasure, especially to the pleasures of the senses.

[JYFly]

I'm a hedonist who looks like a prude. I wouldn't be surprised if my acquaintances think that I'm an uptight Christian.