The Intelligence of Our Subconscious

**babsa** · 06-13-2012, 05:28 PM

How intelligent is our subconscious? I have been contemplating this question for quite some time... I can think of many instances where my subconscious has prevailed where my conscious mind had failed.

One instance was when i was in the third grade and i was opening an aluminum can. I cut it open with a can opener and i was unable to take the lid out. I took a butter-knife and slid it into the crack, and as i started to leverage the lid open, my mind flashed to a memory of an infomercial that i saw that was advertising a can opener that made safe-to-handle can lids. I ignored the random recollection and suddenly the can lid popped up and severely cut my thumb open.

This is probably the best example of an incident that i can recall... On numerous occasions i have fallen asleep without setting my alarm, or setting my alarm incorrectly and woken up at the exact time i was supposed to (even at times that were not part of my daily sleep cycle).

What do you guys think about this? Are there any studies on our subconscious intelligence? Is it even possible to reliably test this?

**Grave** · 06-13-2012, 05:48 PM

Depends on what you mean by intelligence, since reasoning is a conscious act it is difficult to say that an un-trained subconscious is any smart. Personally, I feel like the subconscious mind is doubtful to produce more harmful consequences than applying or over-applying our thoughts into actions. So action-wise it may be more effective, though I'm not sure and I'd like to know why it is that many times the subconscious actions seem to be efficacious.

**Distance** · 06-13-2012, 05:51 PM

Si is your tertiary cognitive function (where tert and inferior are unconscious functions) so it will recall accepted axioms and caution you.

**babsa** · 06-13-2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Grave
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Depends on what you mean by intelligence, since reasoning is a conscious act it is difficult to say that an un-trained subconscious is any smart. Personally, I feel like the subconscious mind is doubtful to produce more harmful consequences than applying or over-applying our thoughts into actions. So action-wise it may be more effective, though I'm not sure and I'd like to know why it is that many times the subconscious actions seem to be efficacious.

I could have probably chosen a better word, but i settled with intelligence since it should adequately get my point across with the rest of my post.

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	Si is your tertiary cognitive function (where tert and inferior are unconscious functions) so it will recall accepted axioms and caution you.

I didn't really think about it from an MBTI perspective, i should have figured that our subconscious would differ...

**Zsych** · 06-13-2012, 06:26 PM

I think its the sum total of everything that is being used to maintain your conscious mind at a reasonably effective level. You need something more awesome than a simulation to run the simulation.

**Chameleon** · 06-13-2012, 06:46 PM

It is an ocean that most people can only drink a cup at a time. Any specific questions?

**joeleoj** · 06-13-2012, 08:03 PM

Without it, your "conscious" mind would have nothing to base anything on. The mind is mostly made up more of unconscious "thought" than one would think. For instance, without the limbic system (the emotional center), we would probably never be able to make a decision.

**Sk8ordude** · 06-13-2012, 09:23 PM

It has more processing power and working memory, but it does not conform to the mathematical logic we most often measure intelligence with, there is mathematical logic in it, but its only a drop in the pool.

**stealthfighter** · 06-14-2012, 03:47 AM

It contains much of everything we know that we have lost conscious awareness of. There is also the collective unconscious which contains a universal knowledge about ourselves that has been buried by our adjustment to the current happenings of our world. It is indeed very powerful and pretty much uncanny. However, like Sk8ordude said, it's not something that works in a logical manner. At times, it can only be accessed in random accidental events and in the way it manifests itself in our subconscious actions. Perhaps brain science may shed more light to it in the future.

**Alberto** · 06-14-2012, 04:13 AM

You may probably want to take into accounts two subconscious levels.

(1) One is the limbic level, the most typically psychoanalytic one.
(2) Another one is the one reported by Buddhism (and actually also by Jungian psychoanalysis) namely the one based on the integration of all functions (whose sum is bigger than its addends...)

As for (1) we have many books about the intelligence of emotions:

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Cannot find the books right now, but some speak of intelligence of the heart
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(aside from the famous Blaise Pascal's statement that the heart has its reasons that reason doesn't understand)

Fundamentally, this level is based on emotional coherence: emotions coagulate around nuclei that attract them because they are composed of similar traits.
You have a love or hate or fear (or whatever) issue with something, whatever may involve hate or love or fear may begin cooperating with that something and build up a bundle.
Since this is pulsional power, it may deflect and thwart your cognitive functions from behind the scenes (pulsions are sort of magnets, and may disarray thoughts and cortical processes, or tax them) - what may seem totally logical to you may simply be coherent with your inner script, but not logical in itself.

Level (2) is a bit weirder. Fundamentally, it seems to say that most of us have no idea of what logic is. Whatever we do is enormously illogical - you are here writing and you deem this a logical process, however it is not. There is something mysterious behind it which escapes us - it is our familiarity with this absurd that persuades us it would be normal, but we don't really understand what we do.

For once, everything is liable to ignite a metaphorical level, and we don't know why, and we are often unaware of it (a face in a crowd - you draw conclusions on that person, but why? Why some traits suggested those conclusions? it must be a metaphor, that we perceive into the traits).

Secondly, nothing is truly logical. Science may explain how the universe started, how planets rotate, how stars are born and die - but there remains the metaphorical level, that is: the fact that in the sky we have huge marble balls that rotate around lighted matches is not logical at all, though with hidnsight we may find explanations that are usable within the absurd frameset assuming its premises as not absurd (= huge marble balls in the sky are normal, there is nothing unusual with them...).

The fact something absurd can be given reason of by keeping ourselves within the frameset of its absurdities, has not redeemed absurdity yet from its «absurdness», amd certainly it has not explained it.

Now Buddhism predicates that this feeling of inherent absurdity is something that belongs to our own perceptual level. There is something in the doors of perception that seems to hint to something else, to further processes and judgment, but we do not master those processes at all - the best we can do is to ignore them pretending that our fictions that explain the inherent absurdity of the universe are enough to redeem its absurdity - which they are (and do) not.

Buddhism says it is possibile to attain something they call Illumination, after which the doors of perception become clear to us in all their implications. But as long as one is not aware of these metaphorical levels in our perception, or refuses to accept their presence as problems that are indeed there, one cannot even begin talking about it.

**thod** · 06-14-2012, 04:13 AM

A comprehensive sensor system is best built in parts. The routine data picked up by each sensor is processed by a fast yet unsophisticated sub processor. All this has the intelligence for is 'spot the difference'. When it picks up something it doesn't understand, it passes the info on to a more sophisticated engine for interpretation. If this can't make sense of it, it passes it on up yet again to an even more sophisticated engine. At the top of this heap is the executive, our concious mind. It can handle every sort of problem, but is really slow at doing it.

Thus the bulk of our processing power may be down in our subconcious. However the engines down there can only handle certain things well. They are not intelligent in general sense. Their main purpose is to act as a filter passing along only interesting information to the concious. I would cite as an example driving a car. If asked to recall the journey, the driver cannot recall most of the trip because he was driving 'on automatic'. Its like comparing the supreme court with the far greater regional court system.

psykhe · 06-14-2012, 04:20 AM

The question "How Intelligent is Your Subconscious" should be answered with exact measurement.

Subconscious is something spiritual rather than scientific.

Wait, how do we measure intelligence -- again?

**annaelizabeth** · 06-14-2012, 07:32 AM

Look into reading The Power of Your Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy for a different view on the topic. It puts a spiritual spin on it, and involves the Law of Attraction. He wrote several books on the topic years ago. It's not anything new but it was new to me.

**spect** · 06-14-2012, 11:18 AM

i've no idea. i think psychology tends to treat the unconscious as a
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, where you study its inputs and outputs to gain an understanding of what it supposed to do, without really knowing enough how it does it inside the box.

**TheStranger** · 06-14-2012, 01:00 PM

Supposedly, much of human behavior is a result of subconscious processing. In addition, more recent research claims that higher thinking typically attributed to conscious cognition is heavily determined "below the level of explicit knowing".

**spect** · 06-14-2012, 06:17 PM

^ i like the concept of intuition being a bridge between the two, that kinda makes sense about nt's being able to make those advances in logic or planning with rational thinking in the conscious part, intuition being the output of the unconscious. but i guess that also means understanding how intuition works, and i dont other than function descriptions of Ne/i.

**Chameleon** · 06-14-2012, 09:38 PM

Alrigh' le's get h'our han's dirty folks:

Lets start with the mind of thought, as we all scoll upon; and say that it is our station in this world. Opposite lay a world that may be as such that you find it; ever changing, as you are. Call, believe, disregard it as you like; heavens, consciousness, snuffing of a candle, etc. All is the same and even nothing is clearly something to speak upon. Now let us loose ourselves unto the universe between; where all may make sense in this place of dream; though into worlds it be pulled not for loss of its being. I travel this map for many timeless times and venture back, older than I left; but body, nor mind be of change, and only wise of understanding my thoughts remain. Yes, it could be (should be) my imagination; oh, but it is rapped, warped, and twisted with intuition. The beyond you hear me speak; well it is there shall we have a peek? Let not the change of my written word deter you from this course; for my mind transfers back unto its usual and comforting ways:

It is a universe I created in the dawn of my time. It holds the keys to my mind, and my mind the gateway unto its wonder. Rules and law would hold one back in its twist, turns, and knotted halls. Broken through it I have; not a feat, not a power of wills, nor a journey saught for. Compelled it would seem by the mighty presents that stare back upon me. Silly trials of boring and consuming tales; I move on before my mind rails. H D

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In this place of places that few others dare go, nay are restricted to know, all links, and is far more vast than one mind can handle. It is into the unknown I venture, each time I go, and there is a constant shadow that haunts. You ask me if it is powerful? Is this the thing you wish to know? My friend there is no end. With the simple tricks of intuitive whips, we merely expel what is is already understood by a machine that has seen as far as it has been. Alighting new knowledge as one opens up knew doors to its understanding; not just imprinted with the new. But, when you travel and cheat the laws, there will always be a marshalling; because one must always pay its dues. Deep, deep, deeper I go into this for which I know, and rest assured that I know the risk if I were to just let go. Madness I would spin into, trapped forever, in this thing I do. Be warned of the monsters that reach out for you. There are things I have seen forbidden to be seen, and I bare the mark of my ignorance in the blessings I receive; for now it calls me, lures me, and binds me between. I will always live with this, I will always go back, and perhaps on day I shall never return. Oh it is powerful my friend, it has always been powerful, and you will do better not to dig past that core that it is you are searching for.

**PlatoHagel** · 06-14-2012, 10:02 PM

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I find a lot of truths as I have come to see it in this post.

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	But as long as one is not aware of these metaphorical levels in our perception, or refuses to accept their presence as problems that are indeed there, one cannot even begin talking about it.

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I guess in a sense one could practise this by understanding the metaphorical language? Dream recall.

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Jung dreamt a great deal about the dead, the land of the dead, and the rising of the dead. These represented the unconscious itself -- not the "little" personal unconscious that Freud made such a big deal out of, but a new collective unconscious of humanity itself, an unconscious that could contain all the dead, not just our personal ghosts

Dream analysis at it's best to understand the interpretations we give in meaning and insight?

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**BuShinJu** · 06-14-2012, 10:16 PM

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	Without it, your "conscious" mind would have nothing to base anything on. The mind is mostly made up more of unconscious "thought" than one would think. For instance, without the limbic system (the emotional center), we would probably never be able to make a decision.

Haven't they done studies where the intent to do something, the thought to physically do something and the physical action itself were timed.

My recollection is that they found some interesting timing issues where the conscious though "I'm going to pick up that can, right arm go do it" came after the arm had already received a signal from further down the chain.

Here is the wiki page with references, not sure if this is what y'all are getting at:

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**deckard** · 06-14-2012, 10:42 PM

I heard it once said, "The human brain is like a raging gorilla with a midget on it's back trying to steer it"

I think the lower functions are powerful, but not necessarily intelligent. Of course if it's the baseline, it ought hold some primordial intelligence. They aren't the governing factors, but the trained ones. Prone to suggestion, they take in information without bias and destroy it, re-create it as well, without bias.

The trick to training the unbiased parts is to introduce rational bias. To convince our hominid selves that say, defecating in public is not going to be happening, if the conscious mind has anything to say about it. But, looking at our biology and closest relatives in the animal kingdom, defecating in public would be the ideal course. When nature calls..

It's the bias of the conscious mind that suggests intelligence. It's like the tabs on the files, telling you the contents. Whereas the subconscious is the filing drawer and the unconscious the whole filing cabinet. Though, it's a poor metaphor because the functions aren't segregated but engage each other - suggesting the necessity for all parts to take notice of the other in order to optimize our world effectively.

When the conscious mind wins out, advertisers will have trouble. Geopolitical stakes will lessen. I think peace will reign when our 'on' minds refuse to be governed by our baser desires, instincts, fears and drives. The trouble is, we're all in different developmental stages, so the world as we know it slowly resembles intelligence but is only scratching the surface of what could be. The world is clumsy, and also tends to slice it's thumb open.

06-13-2012, 05:28 PM	#1
babsa Veteran Member [67%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,681	How intelligent is our subconscious? I have been contemplating this question for quite some time... I can think of many instances where my subconscious has prevailed where my conscious mind had failed. One instance was when i was in the third grade and i was opening an aluminum can. I cut it open with a can opener and i was unable to take the lid out. I took a butter-knife and slid it into the crack, and as i started to leverage the lid open, my mind flashed to a memory of an infomercial that i saw that was advertising a can opener that made safe-to-handle can lids. I ignored the random recollection and suddenly the can lid popped up and severely cut my thumb open. This is probably the best example of an incident that i can recall... On numerous occasions i have fallen asleep without setting my alarm, or setting my alarm incorrectly and woken up at the exact time i was supposed to (even at times that were not part of my daily sleep cycle). What do you guys think about this? Are there any studies on our subconscious intelligence? Is it even possible to reliably test this?
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Grave Member [07%] MBTI: INFP Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 305	Depends on what you mean by intelligence, since reasoning is a conscious act it is difficult to say that an un-trained subconscious is any smart. Personally, I feel like the subconscious mind is doubtful to produce more harmful consequences than applying or over-applying our thoughts into actions. So action-wise it may be more effective, though I'm not sure and I'd like to know why it is that many times the subconscious actions seem to be efficacious.
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Distance Core Member [410%] MBTI: eNTj Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 16,408	Si is your tertiary cognitive function (where tert and inferior are unconscious functions) so it will recall accepted axioms and caution you.
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Zsych Core Member [309%] MBTI: XNTX Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,366	I think its the sum total of everything that is being used to maintain your conscious mind at a reasonably effective level. You need something more awesome than a simulation to run the simulation.
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Sk8ordude Veteran Member [59%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,385	It has more processing power and working memory, but it does not conform to the mathematical logic we most often measure intelligence with, there is mathematical logic in it, but its only a drop in the pool.
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stealthfighter Veteran Member [84%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,370	It contains much of everything we know that we have lost conscious awareness of. There is also the collective unconscious which contains a universal knowledge about ourselves that has been buried by our adjustment to the current happenings of our world. It is indeed very powerful and pretty much uncanny. However, like Sk8ordude said, it's not something that works in a logical manner. At times, it can only be accessed in random accidental events and in the way it manifests itself in our subconscious actions. Perhaps brain science may shed more light to it in the future.
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Alberto Member [11%] MBTI: intj Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 468	You may probably want to take into accounts two subconscious levels. (1) One is the limbic level, the most typically psychoanalytic one. (2) Another one is the one reported by Buddhism (and actually also by Jungian psychoanalysis) namely the one based on the integration of all functions (whose sum is bigger than its addends...) As for (1) we have many books about the intelligence of emotions: To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Cannot find the books right now, but some speak of intelligence of the heart To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (aside from the famous Blaise Pascal's statement that the heart has its reasons that reason doesn't understand) Fundamentally, this level is based on emotional coherence: emotions coagulate around nuclei that attract them because they are composed of similar traits. You have a love or hate or fear (or whatever) issue with something, whatever may involve hate or love or fear may begin cooperating with that something and build up a bundle. Since this is pulsional power, it may deflect and thwart your cognitive functions from behind the scenes (pulsions are sort of magnets, and may disarray thoughts and cortical processes, or tax them) - what may seem totally logical to you may simply be coherent with your inner script, but not logical in itself. Level (2) is a bit weirder. Fundamentally, it seems to say that most of us have no idea of what logic is. Whatever we do is enormously illogical - you are here writing and you deem this a logical process, however it is not. There is something mysterious behind it which escapes us - it is our *familiarity* with this absurd that persuades us it would be normal, but we don't really understand what we do. For once, everything is liable to ignite a metaphorical level, and we don't know why, and we are often unaware of it (a face in a crowd - you draw conclusions on that person, but why? Why some traits suggested those conclusions? it must be a metaphor, that we perceive into the traits). Secondly, nothing is truly logical. Science may explain how the universe started, how planets rotate, how stars are born and die - but there remains the metaphorical level, that is: the fact that in the sky we have huge marble balls that rotate around lighted matches is not logical at all, though with hidnsight we may find explanations that are usable within the absurd frameset assuming its premises as not absurd (= huge marble balls in the sky are normal, there is nothing unusual with them...). The fact something absurd can be given reason of by keeping ourselves within the frameset of its absurdities, has not redeemed absurdity yet from its «absurdness», amd certainly it has not explained it. Now Buddhism predicates that this feeling of inherent absurdity is something that belongs to our own perceptual level. There is something in the doors of perception that seems to hint to something else, to further processes and judgment, but we do not master those processes at all - the best we can do is to ignore them pretending that our fictions that explain the inherent absurdity of the universe are enough to redeem its absurdity - which they are (and do) not. Buddhism says it is possibile to attain something they call Illumination, after which the doors of perception become clear to us in all their implications. But as long as one is not aware of these metaphorical levels in our perception, or refuses to accept their presence as problems that are indeed there, one cannot even begin talking about it.
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thod Core Member [162%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,492	A comprehensive sensor system is best built in parts. The routine data picked up by each sensor is processed by a fast yet unsophisticated sub processor. All this has the intelligence for is 'spot the difference'. When it picks up something it doesn't understand, it passes the info on to a more sophisticated engine for interpretation. If this can't make sense of it, it passes it on up yet again to an even more sophisticated engine. At the top of this heap is the executive, our concious mind. It can handle every sort of problem, but is really slow at doing it. Thus the bulk of our processing power may be down in our subconcious. However the engines down there can only handle certain things well. They are not intelligent in general sense. Their main purpose is to act as a filter passing along only interesting information to the concious. I would cite as an example driving a car. If asked to recall the journey, the driver cannot recall most of the trip because he was driving 'on automatic'. Its like comparing the supreme court with the far greater regional court system.
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psykhe Core Member [236%] MBTI: iNfJ Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 9,452	The question "How Intelligent is Your Subconscious" should be answered with exact measurement. Subconscious is something spiritual rather than scientific. Wait, how do we measure intelligence -- again?
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annaelizabeth Member [31%] MBTI: INFJ Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,248	Look into reading The Power of Your Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy for a different view on the topic. It puts a spiritual spin on it, and involves the Law of Attraction. He wrote several books on the topic years ago. It's not anything new but it was new to me.
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spect Veteran Member [56%] MBTI: inxx Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,246	i've no idea. i think psychology tends to treat the unconscious as a To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , where you study its inputs and outputs to gain an understanding of what it supposed to do, without really knowing enough how it does it inside the box.
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TheStranger Core Member [148%] MBTI: intp Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 5,943	Supposedly, much of human behavior is a result of subconscious processing. In addition, more recent research claims that higher thinking typically attributed to conscious cognition is heavily determined "below the level of explicit knowing".
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spect Veteran Member [56%] MBTI: inxx Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,246	^ i like the concept of intuition being a bridge between the two, that kinda makes sense about nt's being able to make those advances in logic or planning with rational thinking in the conscious part, intuition being the output of the unconscious. but i guess that also means understanding how intuition works, and i dont other than function descriptions of Ne/i.
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Chameleon Veteran Member [92%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3,698	Alrigh' le's get h'our han's dirty folks: Lets start with the mind of thought, as we all scoll upon; and say that it is our station in this world. Opposite lay a world that may be as such that you find it; ever changing, as you are. Call, believe, disregard it as you like; heavens, consciousness, snuffing of a candle, etc. All is the same and even nothing is clearly something to speak upon. Now let us loose ourselves unto the universe between; where all may make sense in this place of dream; though into worlds it be pulled not for loss of its being. I travel this map for many timeless times and venture back, older than I left; but body, nor mind be of change, and only wise of understanding my thoughts remain. Yes, it could be (should be) my imagination; oh, but it is rapped, warped, and twisted with intuition. The beyond you hear me speak; well it is there shall we have a peek? Let not the change of my written word deter you from this course; for my mind transfers back unto its usual and comforting ways: It is a universe I created in the dawn of my time. It holds the keys to my mind, and my mind the gateway unto its wonder. Rules and law would hold one back in its twist, turns, and knotted halls. Broken through it I have; not a feat, not a power of wills, nor a journey saught for. Compelled it would seem by the mighty presents that stare back upon me. Silly trials of boring and consuming tales; I move on before my mind rails. H D ---------- Post added 06-15-2012 at 12:59 AM ---------- In this place of places that few others dare go, nay are restricted to know, all links, and is far more vast than one mind can handle. It is into the unknown I venture, each time I go, and there is a constant shadow that haunts. You ask me if it is powerful? Is this the thing you wish to know? My friend there is no end. With the simple tricks of intuitive whips, we merely expel what is is already understood by a machine that has seen as far as it has been. Alighting new knowledge as one opens up knew doors to its understanding; not just imprinted with the new. But, when you travel and cheat the laws, there will always be a marshalling; because one must always pay its dues. Deep, deep, deeper I go into this for which I know, and rest assured that I know the risk if I were to just let go. Madness I would spin into, trapped forever, in this thing I do. Be warned of the monsters that reach out for you. There are things I have seen forbidden to be seen, and I bare the mark of my ignorance in the blessings I receive; for now it calls me, lures me, and binds me between. I will always live with this, I will always go back, and perhaps on day I shall never return. Oh it is powerful my friend, it has always been powerful, and you will do better not to dig past that core that it is you are searching for.
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06-14-2012, 10:42 PM	#20
deckard Member [46%] MBTI: IsTJ Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,840	I heard it once said, "The human brain is like a raging gorilla with a midget on it's back trying to steer it" I think the lower functions are powerful, but not necessarily intelligent. Of course if it's the baseline, it ought hold some primordial intelligence. They aren't the governing factors, but the trained ones. Prone to suggestion, they take in information without bias and destroy it, re-create it as well, without bias. The trick to training the unbiased parts is to introduce rational bias. To convince our hominid selves that say, defecating in public is not going to be happening, if the conscious mind has anything to say about it. But, looking at our biology and closest relatives in the animal kingdom, defecating in public would be the ideal course. When nature calls.. It's the bias of the conscious mind that suggests intelligence. It's like the tabs on the files, telling you the contents. Whereas the subconscious is the filing drawer and the unconscious the whole filing cabinet. Though, it's a poor metaphor because the functions aren't segregated but engage each other - suggesting the necessity for all parts to take notice of the other in order to optimize our world effectively. When the conscious mind wins out, advertisers will have trouble. Geopolitical stakes will lessen. I think peace will reign when our 'on' minds refuse to be governed by our baser desires, instincts, fears and drives. The trouble is, we're all in different developmental stages, so the world as we know it slowly resembles intelligence but is only scratching the surface of what could be. The world is clumsy, and also tends to slice it's thumb open.
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