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Last week I just had a check up with my doctor. She took down my weight and measured my height. I weigh 80kgs (176 pounds) and I am 5ft 4. She then said according to BMI I am obese which I knew straight away was ridiculous. I go to the gym three times a week and do generally eat healthily. Then she went on further to say I am at risk of getting heart disease and I am probably diabetic. Anyway, I had a blood test and everything was normal and that I'm anaemic. I don't eat meat. I see on the news that apparently like 1/3 of people are overweight ect then I was like are they actually REALLY overweight? I'm really heavy but I don't know where the weight actually comes from so I'm confused as fuck. Anyone has similar stories or thoughts?
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BMI is not always accurate. Those with very low body fat and high lean mass are not accurately predicted by BMI.
If your blood test says you're normal, I'd find a better doctor.
Need moar info. Body fat % would be the most useful, because at 5'4" and 176, frankly, that sounds heavy. I am 5'6", around 10% body fat, and I weigh 146-148 lbs. depending on what I ate the day before. |
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Well, number 1, the BMI is not very useful as it fails to consider muscle mass, metabolism or genetic factors. Any body builder probably has a BMI that shows them to be overweight or obese but they aren't. So keep that in mind
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BMI charts are skewed against people that are athletic, body fat % is a better indicator of health. However, at 5'4" and 175lbs you're too skewed to be an athletic outlier and are in the range where you're carrying multiple risk factors.
Not eating meat doesn't say much about your diet, you can easily consume 3K calories a day without ever eating meat. |
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Yes. It has high value for populations but very little for individuals. Sure, if you weigh 500lbs at a height of 5'--giving you a BMI of 97.6, you are certainly obese. But was INTJ Dorian Yates, with a BMI of @37 (5'10" & 257lbs)...FAT???? |
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I don't know my body fat percentage but I do know my measurements.
Thank you. |
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You're just over the 'obese' line at 30, but unless you're squatting 200 lbs it might be your diet working against you. If your waist is 27 inches and your hips 42, then you're jacked with an extremely flat stomach, and there is no way that your doctor could tell you you're obese with a straight face. If you're not eating meat, you probably aren't sporting as much muscle as you think unless you have a stranglehold on your nutrition. You might not be obese, but for the BMI to be so wrong that you've completely missed the 'overweight' range (BMI of 25–29.9) would put you in the same mis-category as professional body builders.
I'm 5'2", 120 lbs (which is on the thicker side) and my waist is 26 inches, my hips 38, thighs 20. My BMI is smack-dab in the middle of 'normal' range (though I know my BF% is around ~26%, too high for my liking). I'd have to be 40lbs heavier to have the same BMI as you (5 lbs per inch difference in height), and I don't know where I'd put it. With those measurements I'd guess you're one of those extreme outlier women with the bodacious lower half, but your bust measurements make me wonder how you could manage a 27 inch waist unless it's all titties. Mybodygallery has some real-life visuals of different women at particular height/weight ratios, which is what the BMI is based on, To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. , but they all look different. For another perspective, To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. measurements are 36-26-40 at 5'2" (the waist and hips I think would be comprarable to yours at 5'4") but she is only about 125 lbs. You said that your health checks out (blood test = cholesterol measurements?), so I wouldn't worry about it unless you're worried about what you see in the mirror. For what its worth, no one gets out of life alive, if you know what I mean. I personally would rather not spend my last years in a hospital bed, or sticking myself with needles multiple times per day, but I know the only way I can guarantee that'll never happen would be to jump into traffic right now. |
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The posters above me covered that BMI isn't always accurate.
You also have to consider that your doctor needs money to live, so they have an interest in making you think you're unhealthy. Go learn all you can about health, but not by studying health books, because the book authors need money to live too, and have an interest in selling a marketable book that delivers results that aren't always safe. Study anatomy, the science, and infer what your health is based on your own observations. It could make the difference of extending your life by a decade, so consider it an investment in longevity. |
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My figure is defined. I gained weight over like four years. I managed to lose most of it. I was a UK size 6 before but now I'm a size 14. I gained the weight on the hips and chest but hardly any on my stomach. That's exactly why I was so shocked I knew that there is no way that I am obese. Most of the women in my family do have a bit extreme bodies. Most are pears some are hourglasses. I really don't know why I'm that heavy. It confuses the fuck out of me. |
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From what I've noticed, waist size and areas where women gain tends to be genetic. I gain all of my weight in my hips and thighs, slightly on my waist and almost none in my upper half. Unless someone is an apple-type, fat seems to stay away from the waist in the lower weight ranges, and likewise anyone looking to 'trim fat' from their waist usually isn't able to do so without lowering their BF% overall (no such thing as 'spot reduction' in weight loss). That your waist is so small means you're very genetically gifted in terms of body shape. I'd still keep an eye on your cholesterol and sugar intake, though. I'm not sold on the popular credo that 'as long as your waist is under 30 inches, you're fine.' |
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There are lots of body fat calculators online. The more measurements they ask for, the more accurate they are. The only sure way to measure body fat is to a water immersion test, but that's obviously hard to do. Sounds like you might want to find a different doctor though. A bad BMI is an indication to do more measurements. Although she was probably right to make sure you didn't have diabetes - better to check and you're healthy than not check and you die of insulin shock. Might also want to keep a journal of what you're eating and what kind of exercise you're doing. Also, check out side-effects of any drugs you're taking, some make you gain weight. Another possibility is that you have some kind hormone imbalance. People with thyroid conditions can exercise hard everyday, eat hardly anything and still gain weight. Again, these are all things a doctor should be able to help you find out.
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Yeah, I worked out my body fat percentage. I got 26.49% which is average. Guess I'm not obese then.
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Mmm... I'm 5'1 and 115lb. My BMI is 21.73. However my body fat is 21% and I'm trying to go a lot lower.
I am also anemic. before I started to consume 130g of protein and lifting heavy weights, I used to weight 115lb but because no muscle (of you are anemic, you have issues building muscle) I was a size 7 women. Now I'm a size 2-4 in jeans, same weight. You might not be obese, but you need more protein in your diet and some muscle. Anemic people tend to have a higher body fat too. I'd switch doctors and talk to a fitness trainer, since you go to the gym you might be able to get a consult. The ideal body fat for a woman should be no more than 25%, so you might benefit from losing weight. Also, from your measurements I can see that you don't have a lot of fat on your mid section, that's not a sign of heart disease at all. I'd change doctor. ETA: The body fat % calculators are not very accurate, the best one is to have your doctor do it. |
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Definitely gonna change doctors. I know I should take more protein. I just hate meat. I find it disgusting. Might take supplements for it. I focus mainly on cardio. Hardly ever lift weights. Might take up on that. Thanks |
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Online BF% calculators are a joke, it's probably working mostly off of your waist measurement and not much else. Even a caliper measurement is better. |
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I am 6'3'' and weigh 195ish lbs with a body tape BMI of 20%. The person who did the tape was a retard and taped around the fattiest part of my waist, instead of the navel.
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Being fat or skinny, high or low BMI etc doesn't make anyone a good or bad person unless they are trying to achieve a particular outcome. Like an athlete.
But from any analysis if a 1/4 of you is fat doesn't that suggest something? Female athletes are all sub 10%. Some are so low that their monthly cycles cease. That is generally seen as unhealthy. Somewhere in the teens is probably a good place to be for most people, women tend to be a bit higher than men. For what its worth. |
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It sounds to me like you may be overly concerned about the label "obese".
That said, if they only took into account height and weight and started giving you medical advice based on some number they calculated without taking your individual case into consideration you may want to follow BlueStreak's advice and change doctors... |
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Hello Samia. I am a certified fitness trainer from an accredited organization and whole heartedly agree with this approach. The single most important thing that you can do to help your metabolism and maintain your weight is strength training. Keep in mind that the most important number is your lean body mass. The BMI is only a rough estimate of this number. You can ask the gym for a skin fold measurement which will give you a better idea of where your lean mass is. However, based on your activity, I would expect the lean mass % number to be on the low side. Cardio burns fat but only if you are performing the exercise for more than 20 minutes (i.e. at least 30 minutes). If you aren't doing anything to protect your lean mass (i.e. lifting weights) as we get older the lean mass number goes down and we gain fat. If you send me a message with your workout schedule, I would be happy to provide a strength training protocol if you're interested. I would want to ask you some specific questions about which exercises you enjoy, hate, etc. and tailor something for you to try so that you can get started. |
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Another benefit of strength training is body shape. You really see your body change.
If you want more protein in your diet but don't want to eat meat, take whey protein right after your workout. Look for one that acts as a recovery too, and you'll see you won't be as sore the next day To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. . And you can put it in a bottle and just shake it. Fast acting protein helps recover and build lean muscle mass, you can get protein Isolate in Walmart. You can do resistance at home too I lost a lot of weight doing To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. videos (I'm on her before and after wall photos on her facebook) instead of cardio. I'm a Plyo junkey, I have ADHD so doing the same movement for 30+ minutes is hell. Plyo is cardio plus strength, and usually it's a heck of a lot shorter. Something you could look into. |
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Any doctor that looks a chart to say "You're obese" without look at YOU should be fired. |
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Get your body fat percentage checked. Much more accurate.
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Meat and protein supplements aren't the only way to get protein. A comparison list: |
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You also get a very significant EPOC from plyo (and HIIT and weight resistance training) and a hormonal effect as well. I don't like plyo or HIIT, but the positives are huge. |
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