[John F Kennedy]

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	The physical, mental, and emotional isolation. I'm so tired of being alone.

That is the worst of it.

I was once quite surprised that I am quite social--but around people that "get" me and are intellectually inclined. That kind of environment is difficult to find.

[Karchx]

I hate wanting to fit in but knowing I never truly will. As people get to know the real me, they become nervous and keep their distance. It is a struggle to constantly be someone I am not.

[nashburn8]

I hate not being able to appreciate a walk in the park. I try and reconstruct the forest in my mind. Pathetic.

[AureliaSeverina]

I hate that bossy bitch that makes me do work! ............. oooops, that's me.
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[T1000]

The inability to convey my feelings of closeness or wanting closeness to others for the fear of letting people in and be completely vulnerable. I am so use to keeping everyone at a distance, that I don't even know how to get close to them now.

[Purplelightbulb]

I don't hate, but strongly dislike:

-Feeling so isolated and alone.
-People assuming I'm mean.
-People misinterpreting what I say and my lack of body language.
-How hard and awkward it is to socialize.
-People telling other people that I'm weird behind my back; I know it's nice that they aren't saying it to my face but why do I always have to over-hear them?
-Trying to make friends with people only to find out we have nothing in common so we'll never get past being aquaintances (99% of the time).

[Polymath20]

I can't think of anything about myself that I regret specifically related to being INTJ except the I part. I am sociable and outgoing, but it's very taxing.

[painfulltruf]

	Originally Posted by Jiskya To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I'm confident that I'm an INTJ, and there are just a lot of things I really don't like about our personality types. I hate being awkward (maybe just me).

- Yep Just you.

	I hate how we seem so cold and insensitive to everyone else.

- Yep Just you.

	I hate how rare our personality type is.

- So what.

	I hate how often others judge us (again maybe just me) and never take the time to get to know us.

- So what.

	I hate how I hate a lot of stuff.

- Your hatting on being a hater. lol.

	Lately, I've been blaming my personality for a lot of things (relationship status, poor social skills, depression, depression, depression, etc.). I just want to drink....badly. Feel free to tell me if some of these things are just me, though.

- Yep, just you.

	But my problems aside, what do you hate most about being an INTJ? Do you hate anything? If you're not an INTJ, what do you hate most about us? Is it okay to just blame your personality?

Probably the biggest thing I hate about being an INTJ is that everyone and their brother is jumping onto the personality type and giving it a bad name.

[GoldBoost]

I actually don't really hate anything about myself. There -are- areas I wish I was better in. Musical creativity and being able to date girls
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[Income]

Little more than a year ago I had to go on a journey with my school for 3 days. The last day I heard a girl call me wierd 3 times! I wonder how many times I was called wierd during those 3 days that I didn't hear. Maybe 10 times. And how many people called me wierd during the 2 years I went to school? 3,3*365*2=
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maybe not that much since it gets harder to hide who I really am when I spend every second with people like on that trip, but still it hurts...

[Miryr]

The lack of more people with similar personality.

[Idiotes]

I hate not being understood correctly, by most people. This has led to me being a generally quiet person to avoid conversations that will just go nowhere. I could be just as vocal as everyone else if I could deliberate in such a way that everyone could understand where I am coming from without confusion.

[Clicka]

When I was an INTJ, I hated my loneliness so badly that I broke into becoming an E through persistence. Now I'm the leader or whatever the fuck.

I just laughed.

[RyanShirley]

Personally, I think the strengths of being an INTJ outweigh the weaknesses. It is harder to obtain the joys of the social life that the other types boast, but it's not out of reach.

At least your aren't a senseless baboon!

[Income]

	Originally Posted by Clicka To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	When I was an INTJ, I hated my loneliness so badly that I broke into becoming an E through persistence. Now I'm the leader or whatever the fuck. I just laughed.

Is that even possible? I think you just became more social, all can do that. Still INTJ.

[MacheteGeek]

Anxiety.

[Cozzine]

	Originally Posted by UKsplendid To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I dislike that you people are so hard to find, I want INTJ friends. My little brother and my aunt are INTJ but it's not enough! MORE.

We aren't that hard to find. What you may have trouble with is getting past our cold shoulder, our lack of emotional expression, our cold logic, our insensitive behavior, and our isolation.
In all 20, and more, years, I've only really had a couple true friends. Everyone else have been acquaintances I may or may not socialize with on a frequent basis. I never understood why until I found out I was an INTJ, and that they were extremely picky with friends.
You also have that roadblock: Friendship.


To the OP: I occasionally succumb to lethargic periods where I realize that the price of my personality, the cold logic I exhibit, and my being unable to tolerate the pathetic behaviors of whining and irrationality a significant other would exhibit, means I will undoubtedly be lonely all my life.
I don't believe in love at first sight, or love suddenly pouncing on you (it is a chemical change, and all chemical changes can be modified and/or cancelled out), therefore logic determines loneliness.
I also dislike the lack of intellectual compatability, the arrogance I exude, and other shortcomings. I value being an INTJ, but I am still coming to terms with my shortcomings.

[EchosofChange]

I used to want to have more friends and be more social but there's to much drama and stupid people who come along with it. When i found out I was an INTJ it became easier to accept the emotionless, loner, dick that people have accused me of being.

[leafylampshade]

Being so picky about what people I associate with that I have trouble associating with much of anyone. Most people think occasional bad things about their friends and just keep their mouth shut, but it seems they stay friends with them anyway and do their best to either ignore or embrace the quirks as long as they're not destructive to them. I certainly know I have my own quirks and faults, as faultless as I try to be.

I do have a few friends that I truly like, quirks and all, and I've grown to be a lot more empathetic and compassionate in general over the years - at least from a distance - but really I just wish I were more of a people person, including the ability to be more comfortable networking. I feel so uncomfortable doing this. The whole networking thing strikes me so strongly as being false, even though who gives a shit? Everybody else does it because it's just a fact of life, how you move up in the world. I am generally always polite, but I hate being insincere and ingratiating myself to people merely for personal gain.

I admire the trait some people seem to have for being everybody's friend, although the idea of having that many people liking me and vying for my attention seems exhausting. It's that general disconnectedness I feel from people that catches up with me a lot, the feeling like I'm an alien.

Relaxing is hard, too. It's so funny to read this thread and see that so many people have this same problem. I feel guilty when I'm not "accomplishing" something. It gets to the point sometimes where I have to tell myself that kicking back and watching that movie I saved in my Netflix queue counts as an accomplishment, so it's really okay to do that. Probing my thoughts to make a post like this on a message board apparently counts as more of an accomplishment than watching a movie. I guess watching a movie seems too passive an activity.

[The Dan Keizer]

I think for me as well it is the feeling of isolation, even among other people including friends.

I went through depression as well, but today I do much better with it.

A lot of times I just feel like the things I have on my mind would not be understood by others, and if they would understand they probably would not be interested. I have become friends with a few otherwise repulsive people in my life simply because they could take certain topics to the depth that I will in conversation. It's not like you can pick and choose when it comes to finding fellow INTJs.

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Also there is this annoying habit I have where if I read anything my mind goes into dream mode almost instantly. If I read about physics, I am imagining theories and atoms and whatnot. If I read Tolkien, I'm making up my own adventures with my hobbit friends. If I read political theory I instantly begin imagining a debate between me and the author. I read the sports page, I imagine the coach giving the player a pep talk or I imagine trade deals going down and stuff like that. It takes me forever to read anything.

[Roier]

Fear of not fitting even at INTJf.

Which wears of each time I read each post, that sounds a lot like something I would have write.

[ThingInItsSelf]

	Originally Posted by Jiskya To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I hate how I hate a lot of stuff. Lately, I've been blaming my personality for a lot of things (relationship status, poor social skills, depression, depression, depression, etc.). I just want to drink....badly.

Jiskya, sometimes the very best thing anyone of any personality type can do when they feel this way is talk to someone. Not randoms on the web, but someone who's entire job is to better understand and help you like a councillor. You will find that just talking (and I know that can sound daunting) can do wonders. Also the desire to drink is a real problem, this is how people lose them selfs and become addicts. There is really nothing wrong with you, but if there are things you do want help changing there are a lot of people out there with the expertise to help you.

Please think about it
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[Jiskya]

Originally Posted by ThingInItsSelf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jiskya, sometimes the very best thing anyone of any personality type can do when they feel this way is talk to someone. Not randoms on the web, but someone who's entire job is to better understand and help you like a councillor. You will find that just talking (and I know that can sound daunting) can do wonders. Also the desire to drink is a real problem, this is how people lose them selfs and become addicts. There is really nothing wrong with you, but if there are things you do want help changing there are a lot of people out there with the expertise to help you. Please think about it To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I know this will probably be hard to believe (which is fine if you don't, people don't believe a lot of what I say), but I really can't talk to either of my 2 close friends about this for reasons that would take far too long to explain. In all honesty, I'm only 18 and finding a counselor is just out of the question. That's why I go to randoms, though. I don't have anyone else (as cliche as that sounds). It's not something I would recommend, but it is one way to live. I don't drink hardly ever. I thought if I only drink when I'm depressed, it would never become a problem. It has worked out thus far. I didn't mean to turn this into a sappy reply, sorry.

Thank you for your concern, though. I really do appreciate it.

[ThingInItsSelf]

	I thought if I only drink when I'm depressed, it would never become a problem. It has worked out thus far.

Hmmm, ok. Keep in mind most schools and universities offer free counselling. Look after your self
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[Roland Strong]

I like who I am now....but it has taken a long time to understand that. Mostly it has to do with accepting who I am when others seem to think I am peculiar. Now I find that a strength that pushes me to excel.

I suppose that is an INTJ trait that I have found challenging in the past.