[Kisai]

	Originally Posted by SShack To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Yeah, I found it striking in absurd way that they completely erased a gay character out of existence for the purpose of youthenizing his dad for whatever fucking reason (there isn't a reason that's going to make sense) so they just made dad gay to even it out. Honor us for maintaining our status quo!

Obsidian, the character in question, was mentally ill for most of his storylines, then after he was cured, he then revealed himself to be gay (he still has tendencies to lose his temper and act violently). So, ummm.., under the continuity carpet.

Also DC reboots its continuity every so often with a 'Crisis' event. Complete rewrites of characters are not unheard of.

[SShack]

	Originally Posted by Kisai To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Obsidian, the character in question, was mentally ill for most of his storylines, then after he was cured, he then revealed himself to be gay (he still has tendencies to lose his temper and act violently). So, ummm.., under the continuity carpet. Also DC reboots its continuity every so often with a 'Crisis' event. Complete rewrites of characters are not unheard of.

Heh, kind of like how Northstar is no longer a French-Canadian separatist terrorist. (Does that ever come up anymore?)

Gay characters must be boring so that nobody is offended! (except the bigots)

I miss Danny the Street.

Edit: I wish they made Guy Gardner the gay one. That would have been hilarious.

[Autumnleaf]

	Originally Posted by eagleseven To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Is it strength or weakness to abandon your family and children so you can fight a foreign war? Soldiers have much reduced life expectancy than civilians. Would their children turn out differently if they had never joined the military?

Lots of people work jobs that require them to be away in order to put food on the table.

[Booko]

	Originally Posted by curiousgeorge01 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Wonder Woman is a pretty big A-lister.

Sure, but Wonder Woman is as seriously stacked as old-fashioned Barbie, so no wonder she stays on the A-list.

[Autumnleaf]

	Originally Posted by larkin To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	The same as with Bristol Palin/ teen pregnancy/ abstinence pledges - the worst path to making responsible sexual choices is refusing to acknowledge your sexuality, in this case by refusing to acknowledge your sexual orientation/ living the closet. They probably would have lived longer if they had never been forced to live the lie.

By acknowledging their sexual orientation and acting on it those guys I know got themselves an early death sentence, literally, by catching AIDS/HIV. Do you think that would not have happened if they had chosen to act on homosexuality earlier in their lives? Wouldn't that have increased their risk of catching that even earlier than they did?

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	Originally Posted by Sk8ordude To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I never really thought of the Green Lantern as gay, but I did prefer him as a black man.

The Joker would be a good gay villain.

[JTG]

	Originally Posted by Autumnleaf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	By acknowledging their sexual orientation and acting on it those guys I know got themselves an early death sentence, literally, by catching AIDS/HIV. Do you think that would not have happened if they had chosen to act on homosexuality earlier in their lives? Wouldn't that have increased their risk of catching that even earlier than they did?

Are drugs against the law because all drug dealers are shady, criminal types... or are all drug dealers shady, criminal types because drugs are against the law?

Repression creates dysfunction. HIV is not a "gay disease."

[CaelestisPeste]

I'm a bit surprised it wasn't Batman and Robin.

[Ray9]

I'm still struggling with the new, non violent Popeye cartoons. I expect any day now to see Popeye getting it on with Bluto.

[LaoTzu]

Originally Posted by Autumnleaf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

"Alan Scott - formerly a married father of two who first appeared in 1940 - tips readers off to his sexuality early on in the comic when he gives his boyfriend a welcome home kiss." To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Talk about art imitating life. I know two formerly married guys who left their wives and children to come out. One has AIDS and the other has HIV. Nice guys. Will they have lived longer if they had chosen to live the lie? Would their children turn out different than if they had stayed? The choices we make affect lots of other people. Is it strength or weakness to come out or live the lie? I hope they keep the Green Lantern's past as a married father in the script.

It's not like HIV is a death sentence anymore. Current treatments seem to be effective.

If you can afford them.
And a
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is close.


As for Green Lantern... originally, He was something of a Ladies-Man.
Although, originally He was white too, and then they went to a Black dude.
It's just marketing and promotion, for the same tired ideas.


DC blows.

[JTG]

	Originally Posted by Ray9 To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I'm still struggling with the new, non violent Popeye cartoons. I expect any day now to see Popeye getting it on with Bluto.

Nothing of value would be lost. Popeye was one of the worst cartoons ever, and i'm surprised they're still making new ones

[larkin]

	Originally Posted by Autumnleaf To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	By acknowledging their sexual orientation and acting on it those guys I know got themselves an early death sentence, literally, by catching AIDS/HIV. Do you think that would not have happened if they had chosen to act on homosexuality earlier in their lives? Wouldn't that have increased their risk of catching that even earlier than they did?

JTG put it well, but they didn't "catch" HIV/AIDS because of a "gay lifestyle," much less their acknowledgement of it. It certainly doesn't sound like they were acknowledging it if they're sleeping with other men while they were married, does it? No, the more likely reason is because of an irresponsible sexual lifestyle. (Not to judge; acknowledging the fact, on a personal level, that sometimes people contract any number of communicable diseases regardless of lifestyle choice, i.e. not everyone who catches cholera drinks dirty water or doesn't wash their hands, etc.)

People who live in the closet make irresponsible, ill-considered sexual decisions, just as teens who take abstinence pledges do. How can you make a responsible sexual decision when any decision regarding acknowledging sexuality is wrong? When you think the urge is abnormal and makes you deficient in the first place?

*Any* time people are ashamed to acknowledge their basic human drives and thus their basic humanity, and think it's immoral to act on them, they act in the same way - they put on one face 99% of the time and to the public, and then secretly engage in that forbidden drive the other 1% of the time. And the 1% of the time that they engage in it will not be conducted with any reflection, judgment, or foresight. They will do whatever is necessary to satisfy it in the quickest way possible. This often involves behavior that's disordered in a variety of ways: shockingly passive/dissociative (teenage girls who describe not even remembering making a decision to lose their virginity), non-risk-averse (Larry Craig looking for a blowjob in an airport bathroom), or gluttonous (bulimia - no one has the market cornered on shame like a teenage girl).

In short: in a context of shame, responsible, active decision making is simply not possible. Shame and secrecy are poisonous like that.

[raimius]

I can see why parents who do not approve of homosexuality would be opposed to their kids' heroes being recast as homosexuals.

That said, DC is free publish comics with whatever characters, and parents are free to not buy them for their kids, should they so desire.

[Betamax]

Cool. For the sake of sounding like an INTJ, the best way to progress homosexual acceptance, is to not spread around articles pointing out gay characters. If you're pointing something out, it's out of the ordinary. This thread, although everyone is responding receptively, makes homosexuality a topic of discussion as if we need to discuss it.

Watch some BBC, most of their shows from 2005 on, have had gay characters that aren't dwelled upon because it's not important to their character. This thread should have been about if a reboot was needed or how we can view the character in our economic times. His homosexuality shouldn't even be mentioned, because it doesn't define the character.

EDIT: Not saying they shouldn't show it in the comic though, they should. The problem is acting like it's something crazy new.

[True Rune]

So is it the "gay version" or "Green Lantern" is gay?