[catzmeow]

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Clearly, this hits on some key reasons why men should not be allowed to serve in a pastoral role. They just aren't biologically suited for it.

[AlfredSchnittke]

If you care about such things I guess so.

I would love to see the muslim version of this heh

[John01]

This is pretty funny. The tables have turned. I like reason number six.

[curiousgeorge01]

Frankly I don't think any job should deprive a man of sex in his personal life.

[catzmeow]

I love that INTJs are able to detect and appreciate satire. Some personality types, not so much.

[Zephyranthes]

ETA til someone think it's legit: 5...4...3...

[Polymath20]

Ordain eunuchs!

Did I miss the point?

[themuzicman]

	Originally Posted by catzmeow To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I love that INTJs are able to detect and appreciate satire. Some personality types, not so much.

INTJs must be immune to bad satire.

[Samoan Corleone]

Hatin'-ass bitch ain't got no man in her life; that's what her problem is!

[Antares]

Haha. Some men are handsome. We should have 3-CPO instead. Unless you have a droid fetish, then I can't help you.

[Polymath20]

	Originally Posted by Antares To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Haha. Some men are handsome. We should have 3-CPO instead. Unless you have a droid fetish, then I can't help you.

Especially if you have Sorayama design your droid-minister

[Booko]

I've seen some men involved in pastoral work where I bet ELIZA would've given the parishioner more benefit, so Antares, maybe you have the right idea!

Great list, btw. I'm going to have fun on my religion forums today. :D

[akairo no kuma]

This is hilarious, if you're not anal-retentive and/or abusing your Se.

Some of the responses... Wow, guys. Really? I'm not sure whether to laugh or shake my head, so I guess I'll do both.

[Othesemo]

Looks reasonable. I fully support this. With any luck, this will crush the dreams of hundreds of 20 year old religious studies majors.

[jawa]

This seems to be based on Christianity, in which case their leaders (Jesus specifically) never ordained anyone and so it's blasphemous to consider any single group as somehow worthier than the next. This is about the same for almost all other religions, so really ordination should be removed.

[Latro]

I realize they're being satirical, but #1 is not funny, even in jest. That's basically the same as the whole "blame the Jews, they killed Jesus!" thing.

Several of the others are pretty funny, however.

[Hydro]

11. Men love to eat steaks; they wouldn't endure the fasting period without inventing a "legal" work around.

[firebee]

	Originally Posted by Latro To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I realize they're being satirical, but #1 is not funny, even in jest. That's basically the same as the whole "blame the Jews, they killed Jesus!" thing. Several of the others are pretty funny, however.

If it's not funny to say it "even in jest", what would it be to say such a thing in complete seriousness?

... would it be different if the story of Eve was substituted for the story of Judas?

[Latro]

	Originally Posted by firebee To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	If it's not funny to say it "even in jest", what would it be to say such a thing in complete seriousness?

Even worse, but in particular it would indicate that you can pretty much take any flaw in any individual in any group and propagate that flaw to all members of the group. This could be used to hate pretty much any group, but in particular it could be used to fuel anti-Semitism. It's especially disturbing because that story has been used to fuel anti-Semitism.

	... would it be different if the story of Eve was substituted for the story of Judas?

Not really; that story has been used to fuel misogyny in the same way as (albeit, I think, to a lesser extent than) the story of Judas has been use to fuel anti-Semitism.

[firebee]

	Originally Posted by Latro To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Not really; that story has been used to fuel misogyny in the same way as (albeit, I think, to a lesser extent than) the story of Judas has been use to fuel anti-Semitism.

Hmm, do you think that this might have been the point of the article?

[catzmeow]

	Originally Posted by firebee To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hmm, do you think that this might have been the point of the article?

No way. The article was clearly written by a woman, so it's entirely frivolous.

[Latro]

	Originally Posted by firebee To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Hmm, do you think that this might have been the point of the article?

This general theme was the point of the article, yes. That doesn't make #1 funny. Nor would the misogynist version of #1 be funny.

[akairo no kuma]

	Originally Posted by Latro To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Not really; that story has been used to fuel misogyny in the same way as (albeit, I think, to a lesser extent than) the story of Judas has been use to fuel anti-Semitism.

To a lesser extent? You wouldn't happen to be a Jew, would you? A little biased? Your profile claims that you are male, so assuming that you're not lying, we already can infer that you are biased, simply because men rarely if ever understand what society/religion inflicts upon women. If they do understand, it is because something has forced them to open their eyes.

From the perspective of a female who grew up in the Christian church, the story of Adam and Eve is used to intensely shame, invalidate, and degrade women within the church, and to justify them being controlled by their husbands and/or men in the church. I'm not talking about a crazy cult church; I'm talking about your normal, everyday, completely average Christian church. There was no overt abuse, and yet, it was considered fair and even right that women be reminded, often, that they bear the blame for original sin, and can never be as worthy as a man can be.

I have literally NEVER heard anyone use Judas' betrayal in an anti-Semitic way; if anything, I've heard it explained as displaying how anyone, even those with the closest bonds with Christ, can be tempted by secular interests, and drawn away from the Saviour. I've never even heard the Roman persecution of Jesus cast as anti-Semitic; again, I've seen it cast as anti-secular, displaying how non-Christians will persecute Christians, but how like Jesus, Christians ought to stay strong and true in the face of persecution.

[Latro]

Originally Posted by akairo no kuma To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To a lesser extent? You wouldn't happen to be a Jew, would you? A little biased? Your profile claims that you are male, so assuming that you're not lying, we already can infer that you are biased, simply because men rarely if ever understand what society/religion inflicts upon women. If they do understand, it is because something has forced them to open their eyes. From the perspective of a female who grew up in the Christian church, the story of Adam and Eve is used to intensely shame, invalidate, and degrade women within the church, and to justify them being controlled by their husbands and/or men in the church. I'm not talking about a crazy cult church; I'm talking about your normal, everyday, completely average Christian church. There was no overt abuse, and yet, it was considered fair and even right that women be reminded, often, that they bear the blame for original sin, and can never be as worthy as a man can be. I have literally NEVER heard anyone use Judas' betrayal in an anti-Semitic way; if anything, I've heard it explained as displaying how anyone, even those with the closest bonds with Christ, can be tempted by secular interests, and drawn away from the Saviour. I've never even heard the Roman persecution of Jesus cast as anti-Semitic; again, I've seen it cast as anti-secular, displaying how non-Christians will persecute Christians, but how like Jesus, Christians ought to stay strong and true in the face of persecution.

Our experiences differ, but no, I am not Jewish. But yes, I definitely acknowledge that the story of Eve is used in a shaming way towards women. It's a bit silly for either of us to try to "win" here, since both of these usages are obviously horrible, which was my entire point in the first place.

[Shadizar]

	Originally Posted by catzmeow To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	[hide=link image] To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. [/hide] Clearly, this hits on some key reasons why men should not be allowed to serve in a pastoral role. They just aren't biologically suited for it.

Ahhh what? Cat, you're sexist!!!