[Arcanist]

I think Obama would steer the country towards destruction just a little bit faster than a Romney or Santorum, but without the added entertainment of seeing women stripped of their contraceptive rights (blah blah will of the people. Dun liek it then git out). So do you prefer a quick demise or a drawn out one where you get to laugh at certain people getting a taste of their own medicine.

[Feral]

I just don't know any more. Being a wiminfolk myself, I could never stomach Santorum or Gingrich, or Romney... beside being a step back for society and civil rights, their entire foreign policy is 'point a gun at it, and if it doesn't listen, start shooting'. Paul is... not much better, but enough to be at least considered. Obama... I just don't know any more. Even with the stuff going on, he still seems to be a better pick that our other options. I just can't figure out if he's spineless, or some sort of evil villain.

Which is really the least of these 5 evils?

[Noble]

You would be best off voting for Vermin Supreme.

1) Vermin Supreme is the only candidate that advocates a "Free Pony Platform" welfare system, where every citizen of the United States of America receives a free pony. These ponies will help fuel our economy with the energy content of their fecal matter, provide excellent private transportation, and serve as an identification tag for all citizens. You must have your pony with you at all times when outside in public, but it's for your own good.

Do any other candidates believe in the Free Pony Platform? No, because they are too narrow-minded to recognize the innate benevolent (and easily exploitable) qualities of these lovely little animals. Also, what better way to discipline your upcoming workforce than to have your children care for their own training pony?

2) Vermin Supreme is the only politician who understands the importance of preparing for the zombie apocalypse. After it comes and we round them up in government labor camps, FEMA will deploy giant turbines to be spun by captive zombies attracted to brains dangled in front of them, perpetuating a new and giant workforce capable of turning this economy around. Would you really feel safe awaiting the zombie apocalypse if [insert opponent's name here] were elected?

3) Vermin Supreme has stated outright that almost every statement he has made is likely only in order to win the unpopular vote, and that he is sure to swiftly break every promise he made on the campaign trail when he is elected to office. Wow! That's what I, for one, call transparency! And before he's even elected to office, too.

I do not advocate Vermin Supreme for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, this is only my personal opinion and in no way, shape, or form, meant as an ideological or commercial advertisement.

[Autumnleaf]

I prefer leaving things alone that I have no control over.

[LaoTzu]

Obummer's not the worst option.

He's no progressive, but then.... who could be in this political climate....

[Traverser]

	Originally Posted by Arcanist To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	So do you prefer a quick demise or a drawn out one where you get to laugh at certain people getting a taste of their own medicine.

I think the only good reason to vote for anyone is if you're absolutely convinced that they are for individual liberties. Tough luck finding any politician that fulfills that criteria, other than Ron Paul of course!

Otherwise, I'd much rather earn money.

[VF1J]

I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says, however he's the only candidate talking common sense and addressing actual problems during debates. And he's being censored by the media, that's always a plus.

That said, it's quite obvious he's a prime target for assassination in the unlikely event he wins.

[The Frozen One]

Personally, I'm doing a write in candidate. I'm voting for Foamy the Squirrel.

He makes more sense than most of the real life options.

[topquark]

This is a no-brainer. Obama is the only one who isn't completely insane and wanting to strip half the population of their basic human rights. You wanna send the country back to the dark ages, vote republican; I'm sure you'll hardly notice the economic crisis because you'll be distracted by all the women being carted off to prison for miscarrying or using contraception. Sure, Obama's term in office hasn't gone great, but since the financial meltdown that's been building up for decades happened a couple of months after he get elected, that's hardly surprising. It could have gone a lot worse.

[sevans]

Ron Paul, let me have my freedom to choose weed. The Obama administration has repeatedly ignored the fact that over 70% of Americans are in favor of legalization for medical use by treating the people asking the questions as though they are children by denying conversation. The government has forgotten that they are ALL public servants; when that happens it is time for revolution.

I fear for our next 20 years, I think the government is going to continue to gain power, suffocate the middle class to extinction, and further divide the country into educated/wealthy/powerful and socially engineered under-educated/poverty stricken/proletariat/pawns. It's completely evident to me that the general American public has become stupid enough that no longer does the republican party have to hide behind masks and curtains to control them, they just have to say to do the party's bidding. I grew up in a military household, the manipulation has always been pretty clear to me since I saw all the pawns on a daily basis until the age of 8, post 9/11 the government can say whatever the fuck they want and you will have somebody agreeing with them.

[PRBori]

I hate politics, but I always wonder why the presidents are always blame when the real individuals passing the laws impacting us are in congress. Granted, there have been some pretty insane and nutty presidents but Obama is not one of them. His inability to come up with the promises is outside of his hand, besides you can't truly expect an economy that was impacted for years by previous presidents to turn around over night.

I think he needs more time to get things done, none of the other ones appeal to me. So far the few items he has been able to get done have improve the economy, maybe slowly, but steady. I say he deserves another chance. Now whether or not he can successfully put in place the right regulations is dependent in congress getting their act together. Both parties have to work together not be divided. At the end we still need some freedom and I don't see the republicans fully separating themselves from religion. Meaning they will always do their best to limit and/or eliminate issues that go against their religious belief without regards for others belief. Right now republicans = close minded individuals worried about making money for themselves, make the richer richer, in this case themselves and to hell with those below middle class.

But that's my view from what I see and what I sense from the few things I have followed.

[titi monkey]

This is a no-brainer. Obama is the one whose policies are completely insane, wanting to strip the entire population of their basic human rights. You wanna send the country back to the dark ages, vote Democrat; I'm sure you'll hardly notice the economic crisis because you'll be distracted by all the lies and sleight of hand. Sure, Obama's term in office hasn't gone great, but since the financial meltdown that's been building up for decades happened a couple of months after he got elected, that's hardly surprising. It's just that he made it a lot worse.

Hyperbole works both ways.

[Arcanist]

Isn't it funny? We live in such a queer little society, don't we? A mere fraction of a fraction determine the "leaders" and the vast majority of us automatically comply. As if the subservience is an inevitability...Such cowardice!

Think about it. Most believe that simply being born within the area known as the "United States" permanently binds you to some silly archaic contract drafted centuries ago. As if I signed such a contract or had a choice in where I was born. How absurd!

Someone mentioned the drug war. You do realize this is merely a jobs program for the parasitic underclass? I mean, what else would all of these lawyers, judges, and "law" enforcement officers do if they couldn't brutalize and jail people who indulge in substances they personally disapprove of?

Ho, ho, ho, how ODD! I hope for a Santorum win. I have nothing to fear since I'm a white asexual (passed off as nerdgasm) male who can feign being "Christian" enough. How about you women? Or others of differing persuasions? Will you simply lie back and except the legitimacy of government? Of course not. You'll complain in an effort to make all of your dreams come true. And revel in utter hypocrisy, as you only open your mouths when government doesn't go your way. All the while, happily playing along, as long as YOU'RE not the ones getting screwed by FedGov.

[topquark]

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This is a no-brainer. Obama is the one whose policies are completely insane, wanting to strip the entire population of their basic human rights. You wanna send the country back to the dark ages, vote Democrat; I'm sure you'll hardly notice the economic crisis because you'll be distracted by all the lies and sleight of hand. Sure, Obama's term in office hasn't gone great, but since the financial meltdown that's been building up for decades happened a couple of months after he got elected, that's hardly surprising. It's just that he made it a lot worse. Hyperbole works both ways.

Obama has been in office for 4 years. What human rights have you lost so far?

[eagleseven]

	Originally Posted by topquark To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	You wanna send the country back to the dark ages, vote republican; I'm sure you'll hardly notice the economic crisis because you'll be distracted by all the women being carted off to prison for miscarrying or using contraception.

Because abortion and the public funding of condom use are the most important issues of 2012?

I think you should pull your head out of your vagina and smell the economy.

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	Obama has been in office for 4 years. What human rights have you lost so far?

Obama established legal precedent for both the indefinite detention and assassination of US citizens without civilian trial. NDAA signed three months ago.

And just this past week, Obama's
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gives him massive emergency economic powers. While it enables too many things for me to list here...in short, the President can personally commandeer almost any sector of the American economy should it be deemed necessary for national security.

Included in this executive order is the ability for the President to enact a military draft without congressional approval, and the ability to control all civilian energy and transportation resources (as an example, restricting or banning private transportation during an oil crisis).

Both are huge power-grabs that were unthinkable just a decade ago. And are far more critical to the future of the United States than fucking abortion.

	Originally Posted by topquark To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Obama is the only one who isn't completely insane and wanting to strip half the population of their basic human rights.

That's because he has already stripped the ENTIRE population of basic human rights. Wake up.

[titi monkey]

	Originally Posted by topquark To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Obama has been in office for 4 years. What human rights have you lost so far?

CIFTA, Executive Order 13502, Executive Order 13524, Executive Order 13547, and Executive Order 13575 for starters.

[Noble]

	Originally Posted by topquark To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	Obama has been in office for 4 years. What human rights have you lost so far?

The right to a trial. NDAA style. But he promised to eliminate the "habeas corpas" clause.
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He really isn't that bad, though. We haven't had that right for a while.

[mieu]

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	Do any other candidates believe in the Free Pony Platform?

I believe in freedom for all ponies.

[Paul Siraisi]

Romney, for a little more freedom.

You may not like his looks, but facts are facts.

[Electric Head]

I'd vote Green.

[Purgatid]

Why would you participate in a game where you will not be the winner?

[JGordon]

Ron Paul is really the only politician running for president who is not completely corrupt in 2012. I'm voting Green/Libertarian/independent all the way down the ballot like I did in 2010, and leaving any spots without those options blank.

The problem with voting for the lesser of two evils is that the guy you are voting for is still evil.

[sevans]

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	Why would you participate in a game where you will not be the winner?

My family has this thing we say, "If you didn't vote, you don't get to bitch."

[Purgatid]

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	My family has this thing we say, "If you didn't vote, you don't get to bitch."

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[sevans]

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It may be silly but the sad fact is that the American general public has no role in politics anymore. Voting for president is as completely ornamental a tradition as the Queen of England being in charge of her country. In modern elections and politics in the US politicians are merely the puppets and faces used by shadowy corporations, lobbyists, organizations, and previous men of power. Our system is so completely fucked that it's starting to look normal, it's starting to become less and less of a democracy and slowly and surely it's becoming something else. But I guess it's our fault, I mean the people of the united states, just look at us. A vast majority of us seem to place those fucking modestly devolved homo sapiens on Jersey Shore at a level high above much more talented people with the certification to back it up IE Julliard trained musicians, artists, performers, and actors. Not just that, but elections are no longer about asking questions like "Who is going to fix the governmental travesties that are currently taking place; who's got a legitimate plan to fix the economy; who has the best plan to end current wars/conflicts with minimal loss of soldier life on our side; and the final most important question I feel that has not been asked at all for this election, "Who has the best plan to improve our country's image with the rest of the world; How will we achieve global unification?"" No, the questions asked of the general public are more like, "Who would you rather have a beer with after work?"; "Which candidate has the best sounding name for their plan to economic reform?"; and "What are your next steps in this current war?"

Granted, I may not be an expert on politics, nor do I claim to be anything more than an interested party of the downfall of the current system, but this is what I see, on a daily basis mind you. People watching FOX news and HLN like Glen Beck, Bill O'Riley, and Nancy Grace have one fucking clue what they're talking about even an eighth of the time. No, I'm not democrat, not republican, not libritarian (sp), not green... I go by no labels and vote for the guy who is going to kill or harm the least americans.

So, yeah any of you guys from other countries, that feel like Americans are just ignorant pieces of shit; I see where you're coming from, I really do, I just want you to know that we're not all that stupid. I'm sorry for the rest of us though.