Blood is thicker than?

**notoppings** · 10-06-2008, 05:37 AM

How strong is your family allegiance? Do you support your family regardless of the situation? If a member of your family were accused of a crime, how would you react? Circle the wagons or leave them out on their own? Knowing the innocence or guilt of that member, would that effect your response?

**Timeless** · 10-06-2008, 06:32 AM

I treat them like anyone else. If they are guilty and there is a reward, I'm turning them in. Being family means nothing to me. Of course, I wouldn't tell them that.
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**bethanygm** · 10-06-2008, 06:45 AM

I wouldn't get involved unless, perhaps, if it were a very serious crime and I knew with 100% certainty that they were responsible. I don't have many close friends, so my family is the closest thing for me.

**PortInStorm** · 10-06-2008, 10:35 AM

Oh man, I would LOVE it if you were to post that on some kind of SJ site. Family is absolutely their lifeline. For some people, blood will ALWAYS be thicker than water.

**blue tie** · 10-06-2008, 01:49 PM

Blood isn't thicker than anything. The institution of a biological family is absolutely ridiculous. Just think of how badly it could unravel (as it did with me). These people are essentially arbitrary. There's nothing in the family model that says you will all get along personality-wise. That's why I put much more value into relationships I've fostered and earned voluntarily as opposed to ones artificially created or forced, or had no basis at all. Or a basis I disagreed with.

A clash of values with parents and under-achievers (peers/adults) are what frustrate me most about "family".

**Avid** · 10-06-2008, 02:49 PM

Most of the people I was loyal to are dead. The ones left I don't have that strong a connection to aside from my brother and some extended family.

**jikin** · 10-06-2008, 02:59 PM

I have a partial allegiance to my immediate family (parents and siblings only). While I can't say that I would automatically believe their side of the story, I will at least try to give them the benefit of the doubt and will not abandon them even if they did something wrong.

As an interesting side note the original meaning of the phrase is opposite of what it is understood to be today. The blood part is actually associated to a blood covenant and the water is associated with the water of the womb.

**Reon** · 10-06-2008, 03:06 PM

I have two 'two' good family members and, other than my dad, my cousin is the 'best' thing I have. Me and my mother aren't on good terms atm, I don't think she 'loves' me, I think she loves my accomplishments, not caring about the 'mundane' things like grades, but absolutely loving me when I win contest at band

**PHS Philip** · 10-06-2008, 03:39 PM

Don't have any loyalty to them, honestly. As far as I can tell, my parents have screwed up royally raising me and so I do well in spite of, not because of them. My brother hasn't done anything negative really, but he hasn't done much positive for me either.

You don't choose your parents, and you don't choose your siblings. My loyalty is earned. That's the essence of my thinking about this.

**gadjitfreek** · 10-06-2008, 03:49 PM

Blood is thicker (more viscous) than methanol or acetone.

**jadefalcon** · 10-06-2008, 10:49 PM

shattered, but hanging on by a couple of crystalline structures.

It is a long story- but a long story put into a sentence.... My dad messed everything up. I detatched myself from that hell and things have actually gotten better with me not being at home. *begins sarcasm* I can't WAIT until Thanksgiving and Winter breaks, they force us to go home from college *end sarcasm*.

"Loyalty and Submittal"? absoloutely NOT.

**greenblob** · 10-07-2008, 04:02 AM

My aunt (ISFJ) asked me who I would support if my mom and my (theoretical) future wife got in an argument. I told her that it would depend on the argument and I would try to be impartial.
She got very upset.

**Andrew Popovici** · 10-07-2008, 04:07 AM

I think because of tradition, I guess there's some bond. Oh and because we're related. That too.

Other than that, there's no strong connection. I think siblings are unfair because we don't get to chose them like we do our closest friends. In my world, blood is as thick as water, just a different color.

**rahdam** · 10-07-2008, 07:20 AM

I'd defend my family and my close friends to the death.

**Queen Mum** · 10-07-2008, 07:44 AM

I think it's a value in families that we don't pick them and they're people we wouldn't necessarily like. There's no more mind-broadening experience than learning to live with people you naturally can't stand.

That said, I would turn in a family member for a serious crime (murder, rape, robbery) if I was sure they did it. I would try to talk them into turning themselves in first, though.

**Fireath** · 10-07-2008, 03:21 PM

I have participated in the incarceration of my own family members. I knew they were guilty. Having a set of double standards for family members and for the rest of society seems irrational.

If it was someone I loved/trusted (not necessarily a family member) and they were either innocent, or the situation was purely subjective, however, I would defend them to my death.

10-06-2008, 05:37 AM	#1
notoppings Veteran Member [53%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,128	How strong is your family allegiance? Do you support your family regardless of the situation? If a member of your family were accused of a crime, how would you react? Circle the wagons or leave them out on their own? Knowing the innocence or guilt of that member, would that effect your response?
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10-06-2008, 06:32 AM	#2
Timeless Member [05%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 230	I treat them like anyone else. If they are guilty and there is a reward, I'm turning them in. Being family means nothing to me. Of course, I wouldn't tell them that. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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10-06-2008, 06:45 AM	#3
bethanygm Member [02%] MBTI: INTx Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 95	I wouldn't get involved unless, perhaps, if it were a very serious crime and I knew with 100% certainty that they were responsible. I don't have many close friends, so my family is the closest thing for me.
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10-06-2008, 10:35 AM	#4
PortInStorm Veteran Member [74%] MBTI: INfJ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,963	Oh man, I would LOVE it if you were to post that on some kind of SJ site. Family is absolutely their lifeline. For some people, blood will ALWAYS be thicker than water. Last edited by PortInStorm; 10-06-2008 at 04:33 PM.
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10-06-2008, 01:49 PM	#5
blue tie Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 108	Blood isn't thicker than anything. The institution of a biological family is absolutely ridiculous. Just think of how badly it could unravel (as it did with me). These people are essentially arbitrary. There's nothing in the family model that says you will all get along personality-wise. That's why I put much more value into relationships I've fostered and earned voluntarily as opposed to ones artificially created or forced, or had no basis at all. Or a basis I disagreed with. A clash of values with parents and under-achievers (peers/adults) are what frustrate me most about "family".
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10-06-2008, 02:49 PM	#6
Avid Member [10%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 423	Most of the people I was loyal to are dead. The ones left I don't have that strong a connection to aside from my brother and some extended family.
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10-06-2008, 02:59 PM	#7
jikin Member [26%] MBTI: ENFJ Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,079	I have a partial allegiance to my immediate family (parents and siblings only). While I can't say that I would automatically believe their side of the story, I will at least try to give them the benefit of the doubt and will not abandon them even if they did something wrong. As an interesting side note the original meaning of the phrase is opposite of what it is understood to be today. The blood part is actually associated to a blood covenant and the water is associated with the water of the womb.
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10-06-2008, 03:06 PM	#8
Reon Member [09%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 379	I have two 'two' good family members and, other than my dad, my cousin is the 'best' thing I have. Me and my mother aren't on good terms atm, I don't think she 'loves' me, I think she loves my accomplishments, not caring about the 'mundane' things like grades, but absolutely loving me when I win contest at band
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10-06-2008, 03:39 PM	#9
PHS Philip Veteran Member [91%] MBTI: iNtP Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,660	Don't have any loyalty to them, honestly. As far as I can tell, my parents have screwed up royally raising me and so I do well in spite of, not because of them. My brother hasn't done anything negative really, but he hasn't done much positive for me either. You don't choose your parents, and you don't choose your siblings. My loyalty is earned. That's the essence of my thinking about this.
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10-06-2008, 03:49 PM	#10
gadjitfreek Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 111	Blood is thicker (more viscous) than methanol or acetone.
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10-06-2008, 10:49 PM	#11
jadefalcon Member [12%] MBTI: InTJ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 500	shattered, but hanging on by a couple of crystalline structures. It is a long story- but a long story put into a sentence.... My dad messed everything up. I detatched myself from that hell and things have actually gotten better with me not being at home. begins sarcasm I can't WAIT until Thanksgiving and Winter breaks, they force us to go home from college end sarcasm. "Loyalty and Submittal"? absoloutely NOT.
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10-07-2008, 04:02 AM	#12
greenblob Member [03%] MBTI: INTP Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 135	My aunt (ISFJ) asked me who I would support if my mom and my (theoretical) future wife got in an argument. I told her that it would depend on the argument and I would try to be impartial. She got very upset.
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10-07-2008, 04:07 AM	#13
Andrew Popovici Member [05%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 216	I think because of tradition, I guess there's some bond. Oh and because we're related. That too. Other than that, there's no strong connection. I think siblings are unfair because we don't get to chose them like we do our closest friends. In my world, blood is as thick as water, just a different color.
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10-07-2008, 07:20 AM	#14
rahdam Core Member [219%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8,771	I'd defend my family and my close friends to the death.
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Queen Mum Member [02%] MBTI: ENTP Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 84	I think it's a value in families that we don't pick them and they're people we wouldn't necessarily like. There's no more mind-broadening experience than learning to live with people you naturally can't stand. That said, I would turn in a family member for a serious crime (murder, rape, robbery) if I was sure they did it. I would try to talk them into turning themselves in first, though.
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10-07-2008, 03:21 PM	#16
Fireath New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 70	I have participated in the incarceration of my own family members. I knew they were guilty. Having a set of double standards for family members and for the rest of society seems irrational. If it was someone I loved/trusted (not necessarily a family member) and they were either innocent, or the situation was purely subjective, however, I would defend them to my death.
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