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Old 10-21-2011, 03:22 AM   #51
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Do you know that for any field, any specialty, any aspect, you need at least 10 years of endeavor to attain mastery and brilliance?
If there is anything useful I learned from studying psychology, it is the fact that numerous researches have pointed out that the key to "genius" is not "talent", something inborn, per se. You may be [insert field name] inclined, but to reach the level of mastery, you need at least 10 years of toil, for "talented" or "non-talented" alike.

There is a wide misconception that if you are not [insert field name] inclined, you are doomed to be unyielding in that field, which is dead wrong. The only drawback is that you may not enjoy what you do. There is also another wide misconception which is common for INTJ, as I am a previous victim as well, is that for those who are [insert field name] inclined, they are tempted to think that they don't need practice or effort or input to attain mastery, which is again dead wrong. Of course, for some of the cases, people ignore background unrelated work (eg. random thinking) that counts to the later mastery of a certain skill. But it is rare that one does not need special attention and effort to cultivate a skill or talent.

So, the key is patience and effort. I agree with some of the above that you are just impatient. Just keep going and one day you will master what you want to master.

BTW, just keep posting and reading in this forum. The vocabularies INTJs use here tend to be a little more difficult than the average book you find, so your English will definitely improve (I noticed my own improvement too, as an Asian). Once you find that you don't need the dictionary to read the posts here, then it's time for you to challenge more difficult texts, like scientific journals.

Please never never give up.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:56 PM   #52
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Interesting post. I too have immigrant parents and grew up with huge gaps in my American cultural knowledge. All the way through college I would hear people talking familiarly about things I had never known. I may have had it easier psychologically, as my mother is English which is a powerful leg up on Western Civ. And as a boy I got to wander around in some kind of biological anesthesia until I was 30. Girls may suffer more in their relatively acute awareness of their social surroundings. But the constant feeling of being an outsider is no doubt what makes me an INTJ today.

You grow out of it. Or I should say into it.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:57 PM   #53
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what are you good at?
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:05 PM   #54
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Everyone trying to be sympathetic is just saying that probably because they are really smart and have no idea what it's really like not to be.

Oh, I think one has an idea. Considering how sensitive mental acuity is to regular exercise, sleep, nutrition there's certainly a range that's noticeable - and at the lower end many activities are suddenly a struggle.

But again - she isn't unintelligent, she just thinks she is. Her writing and thinking is fairly lucid, and her concerns show that her mind is reaching out to fulfill its potential. It is quite easy to be educationally stunted in this day and age.

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Old 10-24-2011, 11:10 PM   #55
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... i'll just move on to my point. focus on what you're good at, and flourish at it. some people are good at being smart. others are good at other junk and stuff. there's more than one way to be interesting.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:30 AM   #56
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You may be [insert field name] inclined, but to reach the level of mastery, you need at least 10 years of toil, for "talented" or "non-talented" alike.

Frankly, Malcolm Gladwell is one of the most overrated thinkers in our culture today.

There's no way that statement stands up to any serious (or even casual) scrutiny.

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an example that comes to mind immediately. I'll leave the math exercise to the reader.

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Old 10-25-2011, 11:04 AM   #57
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Read shit you like then find other people that like it and talk to them about it. Kind of like this Forum.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:07 PM   #58
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Supposedly, intelligent individuals tend to underestimate themselves, so the OP may have an edge.

To clarify, tend to does not equal all the time, just a thought.
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:23 PM   #59
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  Originally Posted by TheStranger
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Supposedly, intelligent individuals tend to underestimate themselves, so the OP may have an edge.

To clarify, tend to does not equal all the time, just a thought.

Good point. The OP is probably smarter than most by acknowledging he/she isn't smart in the grand scheme of things.

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Old 10-25-2011, 07:43 PM   #60
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In any case, it is a rather big stepping stone to sounding more intelligent which is more important within an intellectual social context than actually being more intelligent but lacking the verbal acumen to express it.
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