[smashy]

I work as an independent consultant and last year I had a client (I already stopped working for him) that wanted me to work exclusively as an employee for him full-time and drove me crazy until the point I told him to f*** off because he was a very abusive person to me and others.

He never understood my INTJ personality (and entrepeneur) and thought he could make me an employee like everyone else. He didn't respect me in many ways professionally. But the breaking point was when he told me that if I did what he wants, I could earn lots of money, have a stable job and progress in his company. But... that would mean shutting my mouth and do things as he wants, even if that means leaving my current house and move close to his company (a place I hate for living). He said that if I had a different personality I could be very successful...

Maybe he was right, but I was never person to bend to other's wishes and live a life I don't want. Maybe other people would took the chance and have a comfortable but unhappy life, but I prefer to follow my own path.

The way I see it is I did a wonderful job for him, if he was smart he would understand me and would have negotiated things with me instead.

So, this is all to say that I think the way I am is due to my INTJ traits. Do you have similar stories?

[Scenery]

	Originally Posted by smashy To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	IHe said that if I had a different personality I could be very successful...

So, essentially, he told you that if you were someone else, you could be something else. Nice. I don't have any similar stories, but there's no way I could have put up with that. Honestly, even reading about it makes me angry. Good on you for telling him to f**k off.

I think one of the primary differences between INTJs and other types is that we are more inclined to strive toward our own definition of success as opposed to waht society tells us that success is. As far as I'm concerned, no amount of money in the world is worth being miserable and working for someone who doesn't respect you.

[Warrior]

I find it odd that you say he didn't respect you on a professional level, but yet he wanted you to come work for him. Those things usually don't go together.

[IronSulfide]

That's the nice thing about independent working relationships, you can tell people like this to go to hell.

I've gone through situations where I've had the option to pursue more money at the expense of quality of life, and I've declined every time. I think that once you reach a certain level of material comfort and security, it makes sense to do what interests you and what you enjoy, rather than making yourself miserable over a few extra dollars. The best way to succeed is to know what you want and to achieve it.

[smashy]

	Originally Posted by Warrior To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	I find it odd that you say he didn't respect you on a professional level, but yet he wanted you to come work for him. Those things usually don't go together.

It's not odd if you think that he treats people like they're robots. You're not supposed to say what you want or need, you just have to go what he wants you to do. He doesn't negotiate anything. To me, this is a total lack of respect. But he wanted me to work for him because he knows I'm very good at what I do.

[Reddkatz]

I wish there were times I can tell people they're fucking idiots at work, but then I will get fired. The bad part is if I did get fired I have to work for one of the other 2 hospitals in the area that don't pay well because the hospital I work for owns a lot of clinics and have 3 other satellite hospitals. Once you get fired from my company, you are fired.

[Gameboob]

I fcking hate dumb rules. In high school it was easy to ignore the stupidity of the system, even at my own expense. But in a job setting, something of my own choosing, I would never stand for something degrading like that. I need a job that I can look forward to going to.

Currently I'm in college, which treats me in a much more tolerable way than high school, but I'll soon be looking for a career, one that I really enjoy, that matters much more to me than money, I mean I wouldn't want to waste my days being someone's bitch just so I can enjoy a nice retirement!

[Tactical Panda]

	Originally Posted by smashy To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	But the breaking point was when he told me that if I did what he wants, I could earn lots of money, have a stable job and progress in his company. But... that would mean shutting my mouth and do things as he wants

Nutter with a God complex.

His pitch is pretty much 'serve me unquestioningly and I will provide because I am the true authority to control your world; your main existence at best is based on and relies on your efforts to please me.'

If he was as good as he claimed he was, he wouldn't need to even hire you because he could have trained up an internal staffer with your skills and abilities. But he cannot or for whatever wisdom he employs has not, thus proving his fraudulence and innate impotence.

Just one interpretation / opinion.

[Autumnleaf]

Originally Posted by smashy To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I work as an independent consultant and last year I had a client (I already stopped working for him) that wanted me to work exclusively as an employee for him full-time and drove me crazy until the point I told him to f*** off because he was a very abusive person to me and others. He never understood my INTJ personality (and entrepeneur) and thought he could make me an employee like everyone else. He didn't respect me in many ways professionally. But the breaking point was when he told me that if I did what he wants, I could earn lots of money, have a stable job and progress in his company. But... that would mean shutting my mouth and do things as he wants, even if that means leaving my current house and move close to his company (a place I hate for living). He said that if I had a different personality I could be very successful... Maybe he was right, but I was never person to bend to other's wishes and live a life I don't want. Maybe other people would took the chance and have a comfortable but unhappy life, but I prefer to follow my own path. The way I see it is I did a wonderful job for him, if he was smart he would understand me and would have negotiated things with me instead. So, this is all to say that I think the way I am is due to my INTJ traits. Do you have similar stories?

Good for you. I'm good at what I do but have to follow rules I don't like, and be nice to people who are often like the guy you mentioned. You'll be happier and probably much wealthier if you have your own company.

[TheCapitalist90]

I hate rules and I also hated the concept of having to work for someone and be under them. I agree with Autumnleaf it seems that INTJ's are tailor made for entrepreneurship and being in control. Have you ever considered starting a company( being self-employed), because it seems like you have the attitude for it.@smashy

[True Rune]

No, I'm pretty neurotic so I try to not break rules.. but sure I'd call them dumb. I have no business sense whatsoever and would enjoy a laid-back academic atmosphere, even if it was low-paying.