The Social Network

**Malkavia** · 10-05-2010, 08:05 AM

I was surprised. I enjoyed the movie.

I thought it was very well done and while showing the founding of Facebook is also shows the complexities of motivations, friendship, money, emotions, and betrayal.

**darynthe** · 10-05-2010, 10:38 AM

I saw it and call me a sissy but I had nightmares about it. I didn't like it.

I ended up totally hating the Zucker character. And the worst is it looks like he basically did everything they show in the movie. He actually had to pay handsomely for betraying cofounder and stealing basic idea of facebook.

Specially the dirty trick of the restructuring to steal back from the person who funded initially was so disgusting I wished he had given him 40% in exchange of the 30% he stole.

It is hard to believe that someone who looks basically sociopathic was capable of creating such a thing as Facebook which caters to the social side of most. Just based on this I would say there is something off on the portrayal of his social abilities.

Also why did everybody seem to be so disagreeable? I hated everybody except Eduardo.

I disagree with you about showing motivations. They said all through the film that Sucker didn't care about money. So why did he do it? Just to create his own cool club? Not a happy thought (it does fit Facebok however.)

**Malkavia** · 10-06-2010, 05:45 AM

He didn't care about money, I think thats EXACTLY why it shows motivations. It shows all the little emotions and jealousies that goes through people's minds.

I agree with you, I only liked Eduardo. The movie makes it hard to see the best in people however I still think all the characters were well made.

I don't think the movie is supposed to make you like the characters.

**JCrow** · 10-06-2010, 01:54 PM

I was just telling my roommate last night that I didn't like ANY of the characters(including Edouardo). I didn't like Edouardo buying into the whole elitist culture of Harvard and the BS fraternity system. He was rich and spoiled too, granted he didn't betray any other characters in the movie. However, he did get majority screwed by zuckerberg, which really sucks, and his friend stabbed totally stabbed him in the back. With that said, i'm sure Zuckerberg thought that he created the website and all Edouardo did was try to sell advertising in New York that summer....something that Zuckerberg never even wanted. Zuckerberg probably thought 'what have you actually done for this website?'

I disliked literally everyone in the film, from all of his stupid nerdy buddies, Justin Timberlake, The twins(hated them the most), The lawyers in the court case and even his ex-girlfriend.

The real moral of the story is that everyone that goes to harvard is an asshole (apparently).

I was entertained though, nothing against the movie
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**OhTheHorror** · 10-06-2010, 02:06 PM

I loved the movie too. The problem is, the movie is based on the book 'based' on the story of facebook, so there are of course falsehoods with characters. I actually liked Zuckerberg's character in the film, because it was so interesting and intricate, and I never though of him as bad, I actually somewhat sympathized with him, along with Sean Parker. And the acting was excellent, which I didn't expect out of Justin Timberlake.
The ending was amazing to me though, even if it probably never happened.

**darynthe** · 10-07-2010, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by JCrow
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I disliked literally everyone in the film, from all of his stupid nerdy buddies, Justin Timberlake, The twins(hated them the most), The lawyers in the court case and even his ex-girlfriend.

The real moral of the story is that everyone that goes to harvard is an asshole (apparently).

I was entertained though, nothing against the movie
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Yeah, especially all the women were disgusting. The insane girlfriend of Eduardo especially and those idiots in the parties.
I think the movie pictured not Harvard people but mostly all US yougsters in the same way they are pictured in other teen films ala Porkies or American Pie, etc, like annoying jerks and women as dumb and slutty. I don't know if this is true as I haven't lived in the States aside from short vacations, but really it LOOKS like an stereotype. I may be wrong.

The movie title could also have been instead The ugly american.

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	I And the acting was excellent, which I didn't expect out of Justin Timberlake. The ending was amazing to me though, even if it probably never happened.

TImberlake was actually acting different from his own self? Really? If so he deserves an Oscar. He was the most obnoxious character I have ever seen.

**Malkavia** · 10-15-2010, 10:23 PM

The Social Network is currently at 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. no big deal.

**Firebrand** · 10-15-2010, 11:06 PM

I saw it and liked it much more than I expected. I like that I was able to get a sense of insight (to the degree of accuracy an interpretation in a movie allows for) into the business of Facebook being built. I found that to be more fascinating than Facebook ever could be.

	Originally Posted by JCrow To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	However, he did get majority screwed by zuckerberg, which really sucks, and his friend stabbed totally stabbed him in the back. With that said, i'm sure Zuckerberg thought that he created the website and all Edouardo did was try to sell advertising in New York that summer....something that Zuckerberg never even wanted. Zuckerberg probably thought 'what have you actually done for this website?'

He did create the website. Eduardo just bootstrapped it initially and helped with some formulas for the precursor (what those formulas were exactly and their importance is not fully clear). Then, when Facebook was taking off, Eduardo was off in lalaland in NY chasing some pipe dream rather than making Facebook happen.

Eduardo was just a big baby because Facebook took off and he wanted to be on the gravy train despite having done next to nothing for it. If anything, Eduardo's contributions should be considered an angel investor's loan, not ownership. Sean did way more in terms of raising capital, without which, Facebook would not be on the level it's on now (though, that could be better really).

	Originally Posted by JCrow To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
	The real moral of the story is that everyone that goes to harvard is an asshole (apparently).

C'mon...
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That's not even close to conclusive. They deal with a handful of people that went there and you paint the entire student body with that brush?

**Malkavia** · 10-16-2010, 09:36 AM

I actually gained the opposite insight about people who go to Harvard. I thought the movie painted a picture that shows both types. I thought people like the initial female in the first scene and the Harvard president showed that many people at Harvard are annoyed with its pretentious stereotype.

I personally know a couple of people who "made it" to Harvard, currently go there, and are incredibly nice, humble people.

**Firebrand** · 10-16-2010, 12:05 PM

There's going to be pretentious people anywhere. To act like this phenomenon only occurs there is nothing short of ridiculous.

**Malkavia** · 10-16-2010, 12:18 PM

Exactly. Im agreeing with you?

**SirJamesIII** · 10-16-2010, 02:36 PM

The movie had to do a lot with male human nature when I thought about it. There wasn't a single woman in the mix in creating facebook. It showed how success took precedence over comradery. And it isn't as simple to call that there was double crossing. Eduardo at times was no help in creating facebook. Zuckerberg was in it all the way through. I think Zuckerberg was even a little generous in bringing Eduardo on the team.

The movie also had an amazing script. "I'm 6'5", 220, and there's two of me." haha

**madroses4life** · 10-18-2010, 07:58 AM

I enjoyed the movie, but wonder how much of it was really true.

**OJlovedNicole** · 10-19-2010, 01:34 PM

The trailer was the best part of this film. Reminded me so much of A Beautiful Mind. The movie disappointed.

Sorkin is an obvious misogynist. A success story about a smart nerd filled with idiotic sluts always sells.

The movie was loosely based on the poorly written Accidental Billionaires, which was an over-dramatization of the story behind Facebook.

Think of this movie as broken telephone.

**INTJoe** · 10-19-2010, 07:12 PM

I like it and I hate a majority of movies. You don't have to be rooting for Zuckerberg to enjoy the movie. I found him as unlikeable but it was still interesting. I thought it was well-shot and good dialogue for the most part (most movies these days have a screenplay maybe 8 pages long). Some of it was forced and corny but whatever. I really like how they filmed the regatta scene.

I thought Eisenberg, Timberlake, and Eduardo all crushed their respective roles. Great performances by those 3. Getting good performances out of the top 3 characters helps a ton.

**BuShinJu** · 10-20-2010, 07:01 PM

I haven't seen it yet, but I like the majority of Dave Fincher movies a whole bunch (Fight Club yay!).

Does the movie actually make any comment on how facebook is used today or imply anything? I have a facebook account but I don't get on there anymore, too many people I don't want to know or want them to know about me.

Will this movie cause an increase in facebook usage?

**INTJoe** · 10-20-2010, 07:21 PM

Nah they really don't talk about the actual program much. At least not the 2009 iteration of it. They obviously go into detail about the incipient stages back in 2003/04 but the movie isn't about the program.

Yes, this movie might convince the 8 people who aren't on Facebook to finally join.
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lol

**Desmond Linus** · 10-24-2010, 05:05 PM

I really thought the movie was excellent. The movie was well written, acted, and directed. It was fascinating to see the sight's genesis. Jesse Eisenberg gives a very calculated performance. His portrayal makes me think that Zuckerberg has Asperger's. I almost cried when I found out how Eduardo's shares were reduced to .03%. Furthermore, he made him sign his own death certificate (I wonder about the truth of that one.) Even if he didn't contribute that much to Facebook, how could you betray a friend when the whole concept was based around communication among friends?

Timberlake's character was very unlikeable, as he was supposed to be. The thing that I keep thinking about is what Rashida Jones' character meant when she said "You're not an asshole, you just try so hard to be." Why would he try to be an asshole if he wanted to be accepted?

I love how everyone who has a Facebook saw this movie and posted on their wall about it(myself included.) It's self-perpetuating that way.

The movie touched on the topics of real friendship and creative integrity very well. I would see it again. This and Inception are my 2 favorite films for this year.

**cdpeck** · 10-24-2010, 10:41 PM

I just saw the movie today and really liked it. I found Jesse Eisenberg's portrayal of Mark Zuckerberg fascinating, especially the interactions with his "girlfriend". I've read online that Mark Zuckerberg is probably an INTJ, and I think the movie certainly made it look like he was. It's hard to say what he's like in real life, or even how closely the movie portrayed any real events. But I totally related to the character from the moment he was onscreen.

10-05-2010, 08:05 AM	#1
Malkavia Core Member [237%] MBTI: ENXP Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9,489	I was surprised. I enjoyed the movie. I thought it was very well done and while showing the founding of Facebook is also shows the complexities of motivations, friendship, money, emotions, and betrayal.
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10-05-2010, 10:38 AM	#2
darynthe Member [45%] MBTI: INFP Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,824	I saw it and call me a sissy but I had nightmares about it. I didn't like it. I ended up totally hating the Zucker character. And the worst is it looks like he basically did everything they show in the movie. He actually had to pay handsomely for betraying cofounder and stealing basic idea of facebook. Specially the dirty trick of the restructuring to steal back from the person who funded initially was so disgusting I wished he had given him 40% in exchange of the 30% he stole. It is hard to believe that someone who looks basically sociopathic was capable of creating such a thing as Facebook which caters to the social side of most. Just based on this I would say there is something off on the portrayal of his social abilities. Also why did everybody seem to be so disagreeable? I hated everybody except Eduardo. I disagree with you about showing motivations. They said all through the film that Sucker didn't care about money. So why did he do it? Just to create his own cool club? Not a happy thought (it does fit Facebok however.)
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10-06-2010, 05:45 AM	#3
Malkavia Core Member [237%] MBTI: ENXP Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9,489	He didn't care about money, I think thats EXACTLY why it shows motivations. It shows all the little emotions and jealousies that goes through people's minds. I agree with you, I only liked Eduardo. The movie makes it hard to see the best in people however I still think all the characters were well made. I don't think the movie is supposed to make you like the characters.
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10-06-2010, 01:54 PM	#4
JCrow Member [07%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 287	I was just telling my roommate last night that I didn't like ANY of the characters(including Edouardo). I didn't like Edouardo buying into the whole elitist culture of Harvard and the BS fraternity system. He was rich and spoiled too, granted he didn't betray any other characters in the movie. However, he did get majority screwed by zuckerberg, which really sucks, and his friend stabbed totally stabbed him in the back. With that said, i'm sure Zuckerberg thought that he created the website and all Edouardo did was try to sell advertising in New York that summer....something that Zuckerberg never even wanted. Zuckerberg probably thought 'what have you actually done for this website?' I disliked literally everyone in the film, from all of his stupid nerdy buddies, Justin Timberlake, The twins(hated them the most), The lawyers in the court case and even his ex-girlfriend. The real moral of the story is that everyone that goes to harvard is an asshole (apparently). I was entertained though, nothing against the movie To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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10-06-2010, 02:06 PM	#5
OhTheHorror Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 108	I loved the movie too. The problem is, the movie is based on the book 'based' on the story of facebook, so there are of course falsehoods with characters. I actually liked Zuckerberg's character in the film, because it was so interesting and intricate, and I never though of him as bad, I actually somewhat sympathized with him, along with Sean Parker. And the acting was excellent, which I didn't expect out of Justin Timberlake. The ending was amazing to me though, even if it probably never happened.
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10-15-2010, 10:23 PM	#7
Malkavia Core Member [237%] MBTI: ENXP Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9,489	The Social Network is currently at 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. no big deal.
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10-16-2010, 09:36 AM	#9
Malkavia Core Member [237%] MBTI: ENXP Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9,489	I actually gained the opposite insight about people who go to Harvard. I thought the movie painted a picture that shows both types. I thought people like the initial female in the first scene and the Harvard president showed that many people at Harvard are annoyed with its pretentious stereotype. I personally know a couple of people who "made it" to Harvard, currently go there, and are incredibly nice, humble people.
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10-16-2010, 12:05 PM	#10
Firebrand Member [41%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,655	There's going to be pretentious people anywhere. To act like this phenomenon only occurs there is nothing short of ridiculous.
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10-16-2010, 12:18 PM	#11
Malkavia Core Member [237%] MBTI: ENXP Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9,489	Exactly. Im agreeing with you?
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10-16-2010, 02:36 PM	#12
SirJamesIII Member [38%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,544	The movie had to do a lot with male human nature when I thought about it. There wasn't a single woman in the mix in creating facebook. It showed how success took precedence over comradery. And it isn't as simple to call that there was double crossing. Eduardo at times was no help in creating facebook. Zuckerberg was in it all the way through. I think Zuckerberg was even a little generous in bringing Eduardo on the team. The movie also had an amazing script. "I'm 6'5", 220, and there's two of me." haha
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10-18-2010, 07:58 AM	#13
madroses4life Banned MBTI: XNTJ Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 86	I enjoyed the movie, but wonder how much of it was really true.
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10-19-2010, 01:34 PM	#14
OJlovedNicole Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 119	The trailer was the best part of this film. Reminded me so much of A Beautiful Mind. The movie disappointed. Sorkin is an obvious misogynist. A success story about a smart nerd filled with idiotic sluts always sells. The movie was loosely based on the poorly written Accidental Billionaires, which was an over-dramatization of the story behind Facebook. Think of this movie as broken telephone.
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10-19-2010, 07:12 PM	#15
INTJoe Veteran Member [75%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,009	I like it and I hate a majority of movies. You don't have to be rooting for Zuckerberg to enjoy the movie. I found him as unlikeable but it was still interesting. I thought it was well-shot and good dialogue for the most part (most movies these days have a screenplay maybe 8 pages long). Some of it was forced and corny but whatever. I really like how they filmed the regatta scene. I thought Eisenberg, Timberlake, and Eduardo all crushed their respective roles. Great performances by those 3. Getting good performances out of the top 3 characters helps a ton.
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10-20-2010, 07:01 PM	#16
BuShinJu Member [43%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,734	I haven't seen it yet, but I like the majority of Dave Fincher movies a whole bunch (Fight Club yay!). Does the movie actually make any comment on how facebook is used today or imply anything? I have a facebook account but I don't get on there anymore, too many people I don't want to know or want them to know about me. Will this movie cause an increase in facebook usage?
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10-20-2010, 07:21 PM	#17
INTJoe Veteran Member [75%] MBTI: INTj Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,009	Nah they really don't talk about the actual program much. At least not the 2009 iteration of it. They obviously go into detail about the incipient stages back in 2003/04 but the movie isn't about the program. Yes, this movie might convince the 8 people who aren't on Facebook to finally join. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. lol
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10-24-2010, 05:05 PM	#18
Desmond Linus Member [07%] MBTI: ENFP Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 312	I really thought the movie was excellent. The movie was well written, acted, and directed. It was fascinating to see the sight's genesis. Jesse Eisenberg gives a very calculated performance. His portrayal makes me think that Zuckerberg has Asperger's. I almost cried when I found out how Eduardo's shares were reduced to .03%. Furthermore, he made him sign his own death certificate (I wonder about the truth of that one.) Even if he didn't contribute that much to Facebook, how could you betray a friend when the whole concept was based around communication among friends? Timberlake's character was very unlikeable, as he was supposed to be. The thing that I keep thinking about is what Rashida Jones' character meant when she said "You're not an asshole, you just try so hard to be." Why would he try to be an asshole if he wanted to be accepted? I love how everyone who has a Facebook saw this movie and posted on their wall about it(myself included.) It's self-perpetuating that way. The movie touched on the topics of real friendship and creative integrity very well. I would see it again. This and Inception are my 2 favorite films for this year.
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10-24-2010, 10:41 PM	#19
cdpeck New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 49	I just saw the movie today and really liked it. I found Jesse Eisenberg's portrayal of Mark Zuckerberg fascinating, especially the interactions with his "girlfriend". I've read online that Mark Zuckerberg is probably an INTJ, and I think the movie certainly made it look like he was. It's hard to say what he's like in real life, or even how closely the movie portrayed any real events. But I totally related to the character from the moment he was onscreen.
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