Anybody self-employed? - Page 2

**Kaethus** · 04-11-2008, 07:04 PM

Many of you bring up a valid point. There would be an instant lack of socialization. And I am disinterested in schmoozing like "a professional whore". I live with a roommate right now and I don't talk to her much. Right now, I'm in a phase where I'm supposed to be mad at her for waking me up in the middle of the night twice in one month (usually it's spaced further apart) because of her drunk merrymaking. The first time she locked her self out of the apartment and the second time she brought friends over (also drunk) during a work night. I got approx. 2 hours of sleep. But anyway...

What would a company full of INTJ's be like?

Genuine meaningful conversations, with competent experienced/willing to learn individuals. Stoic, yet authentic hard workers with shells that melt with time, patience and consistent interactions? Is there any way a company like that could go wrong?

**notoppings** · 04-11-2008, 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=What would a company full of INTJ's be like?

Genuine meaningful conversations, with competent experienced/willing to learn individuals. Stoic, yet authentic hard workers with shells that melt with time, patience and consistent interactions? Is there any way a company like that could go wrong?[/QUOTE]

Great place I'd like to find it but the chances of more then one INTJ sneaking in under the radar is highly unlikely the rest of the staff would be frightened by the sheer productivity.

**blue tie** · 04-14-2008, 02:04 PM

I've failed twice (thrice?) on small projects (websites) that are typical to what people would do if they started out on their own. And I failed miserably, like crashed and burned and made an embarassment of myself and my client.

To me the largest problem is lack of structure. I like structure a lot but for some reason I can't provide it for myself. Being completely self-employed sounds like a terrible, terrible idea. At least from my experience/perspective.

**brianh** · 04-14-2008, 03:02 PM

I have been self employed for four years now, I make less but I do not have to deal with the politics and power struggles at the old job.

I make furniture and signs most of my income of late is chainsaw carving, all the work is creative and fulfilling I did not realize how much I hated my job until I quit.

Self employment can be hard but I feel more in control of my life.

**MCR** · 04-17-2008, 06:39 AM

I am...have been for around 5 years now. I have a career where that is pretty common though (I'm a graphic designer). Working for myself is not as difficult as I thought it would be. The discipline came pretty naturally, which I was surprised about. I took all the things that I didn't like about working for large companies and made sure they didn't find their way into my own personal office. That alone made it a lucrative scenario.
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
All of those things, combined with something that I do truly chalk up to luck and being in the right place at the right time made my business take off and I haven't looked back since. I'm very fortunate...and very grateful. This INTJ is very humbled by that.
To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

**soundchaser** · 04-17-2008, 10:43 PM

I am self employed as a computer consultant. I just really enjoy working with computers to the point that I often don't feel like I'm working. However, even though I do get satisfaction from helping people through their troubles and getting them on the right track, I don't think I'll keep doing this forever, because it just feels like such small potatoes. Put another way, I don't feel like I'm really doing anything significant with my life. I know that I should just be focused on being happy, but another part of me feels that my life would be a waste if all I ever end up doing is working on a bunch of computers.

However, the alternatives I see worry me for other reasons. The bureaucratic BS of the academic world is truly frightening, even though it seems to be the arena through which I'd best fulfill my aspirations of meaningfulness.

**jesse** · 05-20-2008, 05:45 AM

I've given self-employment plenty of thought, mostly because the idiocy of employment policy and employer mentalities in Finland suck. This would of course entail relocating elsewhere to a jurisdiction which does not see self-initiative and business through hostile eyes.

Somehow the thought of doing long term 9-5 jobs with the repetitiveness and politics depress me. I don't want to subject myself to that rat race where you essentially are the mercy of others, namely the employer.

**fictionsmosaic** · 05-20-2008, 06:42 AM

I find myself doing various oddjobs, sometimes it's moving furniture, sometimes it's moving logs out of a yard, moving office equipment around, fixing a computer of minor problems, tutoring, I also train a little bit to people on how to shoot as well as maintain their firearm. Charge whatever I feel the job is worth but I rarely do a job for free unless I can exchange certain favors when I see fit.

I make sure that the favors that are owed are ones that will be beneficial to me. Should something happen in my life, I can call back for the favors and live freely for anywhere between half a year to a year. When people come to me for advice, I'll honor their problem with my help, but in return, something always has be exchanged.

04-11-2008, 07:04 PM	#26
Kaethus New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 21	Many of you bring up a valid point. There would be an instant lack of socialization. And I am disinterested in schmoozing like "a professional whore". I live with a roommate right now and I don't talk to her much. Right now, I'm in a phase where I'm supposed to be mad at her for waking me up in the middle of the night twice in one month (usually it's spaced further apart) because of her drunk merrymaking. The first time she locked her self out of the apartment and the second time she brought friends over (also drunk) during a work night. I got approx. 2 hours of sleep. But anyway... What would a company full of INTJ's be like? Genuine meaningful conversations, with competent experienced/willing to learn individuals. Stoic, yet authentic hard workers with shells that melt with time, patience and consistent interactions? Is there any way a company like that could go wrong?
Kaethus is offline post a comment

04-11-2008, 07:13 PM	#27
notoppings Veteran Member [53%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,128	[QUOTE=What would a company full of INTJ's be like? Genuine meaningful conversations, with competent experienced/willing to learn individuals. Stoic, yet authentic hard workers with shells that melt with time, patience and consistent interactions? Is there any way a company like that could go wrong?[/QUOTE] Great place I'd like to find it but the chances of more then one INTJ sneaking in under the radar is highly unlikely the rest of the staff would be frightened by the sheer productivity.
notoppings is offline post a comment

04-14-2008, 02:04 PM	#28
blue tie Member [02%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 108	I've failed twice (thrice?) on small projects (websites) that are typical to what people would do if they started out on their own. And I failed miserably, like crashed and burned and made an embarassment of myself and my client. To me the largest problem is lack of structure. I like structure a lot but for some reason I can't provide it for myself. Being completely self-employed sounds like a terrible, terrible idea. At least from my experience/perspective.
blue tie is offline post a comment

04-14-2008, 03:02 PM	#29
brianh New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 26	I have been self employed for four years now, I make less but I do not have to deal with the politics and power struggles at the old job. I make furniture and signs most of my income of late is chainsaw carving, all the work is creative and fulfilling I did not realize how much I hated my job until I quit. Self employment can be hard but I feel more in control of my life.
brianh is offline post a comment

04-17-2008, 06:39 AM	#30
MCR New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 28	I am...have been for around 5 years now. I have a career where that is pretty common though (I'm a graphic designer). Working for myself is not as difficult as I thought it would be. The discipline came pretty naturally, which I was surprised about. I took all the things that I didn't like about working for large companies and made sure they didn't find their way into my own personal office. That alone made it a lucrative scenario. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of those things, combined with something that I do truly chalk up to luck and being in the right place at the right time made my business take off and I haven't looked back since. I'm very fortunate...and very grateful. This INTJ is very humbled by that. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
MCR is offline post a comment

04-17-2008, 10:43 PM	#31
soundchaser New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 18	I am self employed as a computer consultant. I just really enjoy working with computers to the point that I often don't feel like I'm working. However, even though I do get satisfaction from helping people through their troubles and getting them on the right track, I don't think I'll keep doing this forever, because it just feels like such small potatoes. Put another way, I don't feel like I'm really doing anything significant with my life. I know that I should just be focused on being happy, but another part of me feels that my life would be a waste if all I ever end up doing is working on a bunch of computers. However, the alternatives I see worry me for other reasons. The bureaucratic BS of the academic world is truly frightening, even though it seems to be the arena through which I'd best fulfill my aspirations of meaningfulness.
soundchaser is offline post a comment

05-20-2008, 05:45 AM	#32
jesse Member [10%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 420	I've given self-employment plenty of thought, mostly because the idiocy of employment policy and employer mentalities in Finland suck. This would of course entail relocating elsewhere to a jurisdiction which does not see self-initiative and business through hostile eyes. Somehow the thought of doing long term 9-5 jobs with the repetitiveness and politics depress me. I don't want to subject myself to that rat race where you essentially are the mercy of others, namely the employer.
jesse is offline post a comment

05-20-2008, 06:42 AM	#33
fictionsmosaic New Member [01%] MBTI: INTJ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9	I find myself doing various oddjobs, sometimes it's moving furniture, sometimes it's moving logs out of a yard, moving office equipment around, fixing a computer of minor problems, tutoring, I also train a little bit to people on how to shoot as well as maintain their firearm. Charge whatever I feel the job is worth but I rarely do a job for free unless I can exchange certain favors when I see fit. I make sure that the favors that are owed are ones that will be beneficial to me. Should something happen in my life, I can call back for the favors and live freely for anywhere between half a year to a year. When people come to me for advice, I'll honor their problem with my help, but in return, something always has be exchanged.
fictionsmosaic is offline post a comment