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  1. monkey
    i've always found the quakers very accepting of people, no matter what their beliefs.
  2. PunkinA
    07-08-2016 07:48 AM
    PunkinA
    That looks very appetizing. I'll look into it.
  3. Chilun
    07-06-2016 01:54 PM
    Chilun
    Downloaded the Stoic Week 2013 Handbook for starters. :D
  4. Chilun
    07-06-2016 12:48 PM
    Chilun
    Interesting. Unfortunately, the SMRT program started already (June 19).
  5. Chilun
    07-06-2016 10:07 AM
    Chilun
    Appreciate your help. Thanks!
  6. Chilun
    07-06-2016 09:24 AM
    Chilun
    I share many values with the both Greek and Roman stoics. Epictetus' "Art of Living"; Seneca's "Letters from a Stoic". Do you have any recommendations of good stoic books?
  7. PunkinA
    07-06-2016 06:41 AM
    PunkinA
    I can appreciate what you've written. You've given me an understandable framework with which you are willing to go along with me. You are more likely to believe me when I just say how things are, really. You appreciate a fig leaf over the vagary of "what I experience." I'm willing to put my sentences in the "this-is-this" format, sometimes. I understand that I should converse in this way when I'm looking for your buy-in.

    I'm a little sad that you don't like poetry. I like the idea that the following passage expresses an idea, though conveys no proposition.
    Snow. Shovel. Driveway. Six inches. Doan's Back Pills.
    But I understand that poetry may not be your flavor of ice cream.

    I'll be starting a series of threads at the end of summer that discusses how prose, spoken conversation, and even road signs fulfill our expectation of "what is poetry". Where poetry at large is treated as an unbounded language game, with context driven rules, I hope to show that all forms of writing, including this message, are just extensions of every speaker's right to poetry. I want to make us all Bad Poets.

    I believe the threads may get very bizarre, but I will try to reserve a space within the conversation for prosy propositional talk in case you are interested in participating too. No pressures though.
  8. PunkinA
    07-05-2016 08:03 PM
    PunkinA
    "I like chocolate ice cream".

    Is my statement objective? Do I think ice cream is good, objectively, or does it describe my experience? I have judged ice cream to be good, without thinking it is good for everyone.

    I also predict that you will like chocolate ice cream. We share the same attitude toward chocolate ice cream. That does not mean either of us believe chocolate ice cream is objectively good. It is good to both of us. Our agreement does not make it objective.

    "That car looks red to me."

    "That seems unfair."

    All of my beliefs describe my experience, without me expecting everyone to share the same experience. And when others happen to express the same beliefs that I do, it doesn't make our subjective accounts objective because we've obtained consensus.

    Otherwise, Apocalypse Now is not gratuitous, objectively speaking.
  9. PunkinA
    07-05-2016 09:39 AM
    PunkinA
    I still make judgments. Just ask my wife.

    In my opinion, I own my judgments as expressions of my experience. I never get to the point of saying my opinions or beliefs are objectively verifiable. I still come to the conclusion, personally, that some beliefs work better than others.

    My conservatism comes through where I allow that each person's mode of expression is best for describing their experience. That's as close as I'll get to saying every opinion is valid. Your sentences may not work for me, which would allow me to reject them in describing my beliefs.

    You sound like Captain Willard in Apocalypse Now when he tells Colonel Kurtz, "I don't see any method at all." Please don't hack me in the head with a machete.
  10. PunkinA
    07-05-2016 08:27 AM
    PunkinA
    I feel that way too. When I talk about "my new language" I want to speak about all the things we cannot speak about with Modern grammar.

    When we move away from Objectivity, we get to say new things. Even my language has things that don't get said, but Objectivity does not solve those problems. My dream is that we engage on the new project and tackle new problems instead of trying to muddle about what cannot be said in Modern English.
  11. PunkinA
    06-23-2016 09:04 PM
    PunkinA
    My first semester was great. I learned so much in such a short period of time, I was recognized with an increase in pay and responsibility. I'm doing summer school now and I'm enjoying it greatly.
  12. PunkinA
    06-22-2016 07:12 PM
    PunkinA
    I had never heard of him. I just read his Wikipedia page. I have benefited greatly from CBT over my life though. I'll look further into his work.

    By the way, how is your school going?
  13. oberonblue
    06-21-2016 06:44 AM
    oberonblue
    I believe that Salvation is a gift offered to all humans, and we have the option to reject it. I know of no verses that suggest that every human will end up in Heaven. Most end of the world passages specifically describe those that will be destroyed with the Old Earth along with the devil and all fallen angels.
  14. Monte314
    06-09-2016 02:17 PM
    Monte314
    Sorry to hear this. Losing a friend is never easy, but it os harder when there seems to be no purpose.
  15. Monte314
    06-08-2016 05:55 PM
    Monte314 commented on Words For How You're Feeling
    Is everything alright? Do you need something?
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  17. Aeroflot
    06-02-2016 01:58 PM
    Aeroflot
    The only part that's hard to accept is the providential universe. As much as I want to believe it, I can't. I think there is cause and effect, and thus I think that everything thus happens for a reason, but I can't quite accept that the universe is conscious. There is the argument that if human beings have consciousness, and if human beings are part of the universe, then technically the universe must be conscious. Yet, that doesn't mean the entire universe is conscious.
  18. Aeroflot
    05-31-2016 03:34 PM
    Aeroflot
    The College looks interesting. I might give it a go in the future.
  19. Aeroflot
    05-29-2016 12:41 PM
    Aeroflot
    I will check them out.
  20. Aeroflot
    05-29-2016 10:09 AM
    Aeroflot commented on If Someone Could Change Your Mind....
    Well, ancient stoicism is different from what its modern equivalent is. Systems change with time and knowledge. These days there wouldn't be a God called Logos. Unless you really want there to be a God. Stoicism today is akin to CBT.

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