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  1. unkindhuman
    05-12-2015 11:05 AM
    Hmm, I'll check it out sometime. Thanks again!
  2. unkindhuman
    05-12-2015 11:00 AM
    No! My knowledge of ethics is rudimentary at this point. Any articles by him you would recommend?
  3. unkindhuman
    05-12-2015 10:56 AM
    I think the mix and match approach works too. Unfortunately, again, it becomes thorny when you need to decide how to mix and match.

    Yes, Aristotle was very ignorant about slavery.
  4. unkindhuman
    05-12-2015 10:44 AM
    I think utilitarianism is an attractive ethical theory, more-so than deontological ethics. But, as you have pointed out, it can be used to justify things that are most likely wrong (like slavery). I think, though, if it were possible to do the kinds of calculations that utilitarianism proposes to do, then we could potentially get somewhere. However, in the thorniness that is the field of ethical theory, I think it's a daunting task at the very least.

    Virtue theory does have its merits as well.
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  6. Monte314
    05-07-2015 02:54 PM
    Keep me posted, man. You are a good guy.
  7. Monte314
    05-07-2015 02:02 PM
    Monte314 commented on 30 Day Compulsion Challenge
    I hope you are well. Sounds like you are stepping some positive steps here.
  8. Stek
    04-23-2015 08:04 AM
    Well, 87e30 is wrong. It is not "the same". It is pretty far from it. But the concepts are similar to some degree.
  9. Stek
    04-23-2015 08:00 AM
    Modern employment is not the same as classical slavery. But it does build on similar logic. That is my point. Of course, our situation is so incredibly much better, that some people get offended on behalf of actual slaves when this comparison is being pointed out.
  10. Stek
    04-23-2015 07:53 AM
    Calm down. I said they build on a similar logic. We are "slaves" to society. We do what society tells us to do, or else. There is no "master" because the system governs itself. But if you don't submit to the system, you are fucked.
  11. Stek
    04-23-2015 07:04 AM
    Yes, it is stretching it. It is a form of slavery, in a mild sense, but with a similar logic. It all depends on your definition of course. If you define slavery literally as it appear in the bible, then this is not it.

    But we are not free from society. We go to work to get money to cover our expenses. I'd rather not. But I have to. It is a brilliant self-sustaining process. There is no "master" but society itself. And money is what makes it all go around. But this is a completely new discussion that I didn't really want to get into. Just a comparison.
  12. Stek
    04-23-2015 03:06 AM
    Thanks, but I already agree. In fact, I would also support the argument that we are all slaves to society (job/expenses). In that sense, one could argue that we live by the biblical god's rules, and that we accept our slavery. We just don't accept every form of slavery.
  13. Kisai
    04-21-2015 09:11 AM
    I'd like to make a better argument, but certain chuckleheads, who make a habit of lying to people, would use my arguments for their own ends.
  14. kosh
    04-20-2015 01:28 PM
    kosh commented on Does this analogy work?
    You're digressing at this point.
  15. Monte314
    04-16-2015 03:44 PM
    Monte314 commented on How to not answer questions?
    Hee! Hee!
  16. dontfuckwithme
    04-13-2015 01:14 PM
    dontfuckwithme commented on A Philosopher Goes to Church: Part Deux
    Great post and thread idea.
  17. Zsych
    04-08-2015 07:44 PM
    Zsych commented on Indiana Passing SB-101
    good one.
  18. SkyBright
    02-13-2015 05:20 PM
    My point is it's not a loss. The "potential allies" you think I lost didn't exist. Those comments are just meant to shame or embarrass me into thinking if only I had acted differently then I could have controlled other people's reactions and made them my friends. That truly would be delusional if I thought I could do that. So, what, Tocsin isn't going to like me? Imperator is going to think I'm an idiot? You aren't going to be my buddy and tell me how wonderful I am?

    Yeah, I think I am already in that position. Nothing has changed in that respect.
  19. SkyBright
    02-13-2015 02:05 PM
    SkyBright commented on Know to believe God!
    This would bother me except I was already alienated. So I alienated people who already looked at me as an oddity among other things. Is that a loss for me?
  20. Monte314
    02-04-2015 11:09 PM
    Yes, I know about vaccination schedules, and am fully aware that infants are at risk of infection by communicable diseases. That fact alone, however, does not make the case for any *specific* legal remedy. How to deal with their susceptibility is a separate issue... and one that is the concern and responsibility principally of their parents.

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