I believe I did adress it -- I meant it in the context of a teenager being spanked in the bottom as punishment for bad behaviour. The links you provided make no mention of teenagers, unless I overlooked something, so we seem to be talking about two different things.

Or maybe I'm just totally confused.

Nah Zeth, I'd wanted to disclaim this beforehand but didn't think it necessary until now. I'm not projecting - not the unfortunate recipient of ass spanking from my own folks (thank fuck) in case if that's what you're assuming when you took the high road by apologizing. TBH it's not my emotional or moral cause towards spanking that keeps me here, but rather the ignorance about child discipline in general.

A good ass-smacking would bring the ballance of power back.

Is there a reason why you're repeating your "intrigue" about the definition of ass and sexual organ? If you're not keen on addressing your own statement above, then there hardly is a point in continuing this exchange IMO.

P.S. IE 8 is bad, I'm on Chrome and occasionally Firefox.

Cheers. No reply needed unless you see fit.

The links you provided mention studies of children ages 3-6. I believed the discussion concerned 10+ children, who were concious enough to link punishment to certain actions. If that was not the case, I agree that young children shouldn't be punished physically.

If you felt offended by my posts, I apologise -- at no point did I use sarcasm, it just seems I like having things defined clearly; hearing about the bottom being a sexual organ shocked in intrigued me.

*IE 8 fail double post*

Back on topic, what I don’t understand is, even if there is a need for physical punishment, which I’ve already stated I have nothing against in aforementioned VM to you, why the ass specifically? Why not a smack on the palm? Why is the ass specifically more effective at all in physical punishment?

There are sexual dangers connected to this act and well documented negative repercussions.

The First Real-Time Study of Parents Spanking Their Kids

Long Term Effects of Spanking

Plain Talk About Spanking

I ask this question in all sincerity, why would you think otherwise? Simply by reference to your own experience in childhood? Is that even enough to prove a lack of danger in the case of so many other children?

There was an ongoing argument regarding its classification in the United States (albeit for different reasons), but on the account that definitions are not the crux of my post, and since I’ve addressed this in #21, what’s the point in making an argument about semantics now? Sarcasm at this point is an ego trip I have no interest in, you’re free to continue though - fine by me. Zzz

I never saw buttocks as a sexual organ (thanks for pointing that out - I was amazed at how the definition was stretched. Reminds me of categorising the carrot as a fruit and the snail as a fish here, in Europe)

Nontheless, those studies you mentinon seem to be the bane of parenting nowadays. It may have negative repercussions, but only due to people becoming more and more "sensitive" to one another. I mean, our parents grew up in times where the belt was an instrument of power, and discipline in class was enforced with a cane. Was that bad? Maybe. Was there order and did those people turn up to be good adults? Mostly.

Comparing it to the feathering wild jungle nowadays (mother is a teacher), I can see the truth in the saying "don't fix something if it ain't broken". Stressless childhood, while of course being what a parent would want, is impossible, or at least unhealthy -- the world will eventually hit the children hard (mostly by buttholes who did not respect anyone).

Appreciate your gesture at clarifying the definition of both terms, Zeth. I was responding to your post on how “A good ass-smacking would bring the balance of power back.”

Is there a the difference between ass-smacking and spanking?

Oxford definition: an act of slapping, especially on the buttocks as a punishment for children. IMO there isn’t.

I have nothing against physical discipline (I grew up with the cane). My point is punishment by way of striking a sexual organ has well documented negative repercussions in children. It goes a lot deeper than a mere lesson from parent to child.

From Wikipedia: Smack may refer to: Slap, a broad stroke made with the open hand; Spanking, a form of corporal punishment

But where will you find a copy of PE online? I had a hard time installing the PS emulator on Windows XP. Hahaha... good luck. The game play is pretty good, easily completed in a week or so but graphics will not stand up to the latest ones out on the market. Have fun.

Alas, I do not own a PSP :/

Besides, I love Square games, so I won't deprive myself of the guilty pleasure of going through them :P

Yeah I had to download a PC emulator for PS in order for the game disk to work. If you’re on PSP, save the trouble and just get Parasite Eve 3.

Is the game available via some sort of simulator for the PC? It sounds interesting enough to try

EDIT: Oh, and there is a third game in the series, albeit on the PSP