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Come on, we all know it's going to happen eventually. :thumbsup:
I remember discussing this in another forum a while ago... but any ideas? Theories?
First thing you'd do when you find out there's a zombie invasion? Ideas for great home-made zombie killers?
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Yes I'm really bored...
We need a fun, throughly ridiculous thread anyway ;D
rwyatt365
10-10-2007, 12:35 PM
Well, it's about time that someone opened a topic with real, practical application!
When faced with faced with an actual zombie invasion – remove yourself to the hinterlands, stopping along to way to supply yourself adequately. Find the nearest Sports Authority, American Eagle, Cabela's, or other general outfitters store and STOCK UP. Head to the nearest (or perhaps furthest) strategic location; high ground preferably with good sight lines that are easily defensible and easy access to fresh water.
Take time to fortify your location. Close off any windows, leaving only gun slots. Bar every door except one, the main entrance and make sure that is strong and zombie-proof. Put a substantial grate across the chimney at several points to hinder ingress, booby-trap it if possible and make sure there is a roaring fire there at all times. If possible, construct a hidden, secret escape route or at least have a plan for emergency evacuation.
Weaponry;
- A brace of shotguns with deer slugs – they can blow off a head easily, plus they have good stopping power if you miss the head.
- Boomerangs (or throwing sticks of some sort) rigged with a razor edge – do it right and you can dismember, or behead a zombie – just don't try to catch them when/if they come back at you!
- At least one hand axe and machete for close-in combat
- Baseball bats…batter up! Time for a little Zombie Ball
- High explosives if you can get them (but I don't know what effect there would be to a blown-up zombie)
Notice I said nothing about rescuing family or friends. Unless I can guarantee their humanity, I would take no chances. Also, one of the main ways that people get caught is trying to save or rescue a loved-one from zombie attack, or failing to recognize that little Susie has already turned. So who's more important, you or little Susie?
Generally head to a mall first (I thank the TV salesman from Dawn of the Dead *;) )
Grab some leather gear... Assuming them zombies didn't grow sharper teeth... it'd help prevent bits
Really, really nice running shoes *:thumbsup:
Stock up non-perishables, fuel, lighters, Aerosol cans
Get some diesel fuel... with the help of flaming arrows, you can set a pretty good protective barrier around your stronghold that can be sprung when necessary.
Grab metal forkes and knives, nails etc... you shrapnel bomb thingy
Nearest hunting equipment retailer... shot gun&ammo, crossbow&arrows, butterfly knife
Now for the stuff I wish I could get
Flame throwers... that I'm planning to build with my aerosol cans and lighters anyway
A pole arm like a halberd or a glaive... (just wave it around like good ol' Gandalf, and you've got chopped up zombies *:thumbsup: )
Aquire cannons from "The Patriot" era (it does a hella good job smashing off limbs and such)
Provided I still remember how to ride a horse... a surefooted cavalry horse (from one of those spanish schools) would probably be the best transportation
better yet, a military Humvee, 4 indiv. wheel drive and all
even better yet, a tank
yet even better... amphibious tank!
Bah... that's it for now...
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qwerty
10-10-2007, 03:59 PM
Best way to survive a zombie attack.... Dress up like a zombie and eat brains with everyone else.
rwyatt365
10-10-2007, 04:30 PM
Best way to survive a zombie attack.... Dress up like a zombie and eat brains with everyone else.
Oh man, that WAAAAY too easy! Where's the fun in that?
qwerty
10-10-2007, 04:34 PM
I would become the zombie puppet master and I would lead them on a charge to find more brains... tell me where did you say you were going to hide out again? Any weaknesses in the building structure?
rwyatt365
10-10-2007, 05:09 PM
I would become the zombie puppet master and I would lead them on a charge to find more brains... tell me where did you say you were going to hide out again? Any weaknesses in the building structure?
I'm in....Panama...yeah, that's right! And...I left the side door open...no, wait, the back door. But that's ok, 'cause my brain has already been eaten, yeah that's right. I don't have any brains. Nope, no brains here. So you can take your zombie horde and keep on traveling south 'cause...there's lots of brains to the south, yeah, that's right! :-X
Gather as much rope, wood, and sharp objects (swords/sharp kitchen knifes w/ sharpner). Then flee to northern western Canada and live in the mountains, if I was in Canada. I would drive my car as far as it would take me on a full tank of gas which would be about 400+ miles. Try to find some gas to store in the back of my car. As far as my route there that's a secret but I do have my escape route out of Chicago planned, which I will share because I'm moving soon and won't be able to use it anymore. Because of the location of Chicago there is the option of stealing a sail boat from a marina probably the Montrose marina. Then sail to the Mackinaw Islands which are in northern Wisconsin. Pretty much what they did in the Dawn of the Dead remake. Except the amount of zombies on that island would be manageable. Or if the island in uninhabitable there is always the option of sailing onwards since all of the great lakes are connected I could get a considerable distance possibly. If animals are not effected by it the fish in the lake would be consumable and I would be surrounded by water.
We're INTJ's we're made for this kind of situation.
Gather as much rope, wood, and sharp objects (swords/sharp kitchen knifes w/ sharpner). Then flee to northern western Canada and live in the mountains, if I was in Canada. I would drive my car as far as it would take me on a full tank of gas which would be about 400+ miles. Try to find some gas to store in the back of my car. As far as my route there that's a secret but I do have my escape route out of Chicago planned, which I will share because I'm moving soon and won't be able to use it anymore. Because of the location of Chicago there is the option of stealing a sail boat from a marina probably the Montrose marina. Then sail to the Mackinaw Islands which are in northern Wisconsin. Pretty much what they did in the Dawn of the Dead remake. Except the amount of zombies on that island would be manageable. Or if the island in uninhabitable there is always the option of sailing onwards since all of the great lakes are connected I could get a considerable distance possibly. If animals are not effected by it the fish in the lake would be consumable and I would be surrounded by water.
We're INTJ's we're made for this kind of situation.
That would be a good idea if only I knew how to sail/navigate on open water. :-/
Tegyrius
10-10-2007, 07:02 PM
This thread has the potential to be made of pure awesome.
My first general piece of advice is that the best way to survive the coming zombocalypse is to be prepared in advance. Zombie Squad can help. (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)
This thread has the potential to be made of pure awesome.
My first general piece of advice is that the best way to survive the coming zombocalypse is to be prepared in advance. *Zombie Squad can help. (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)
KEWL!!!
Man, these guys are the real deal. :o
Tegyrius
10-10-2007, 08:16 PM
I first encountered Zombie Squad at Archon (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) a few years ago. They're very tongue-in-cheek, but there's a lot of good emergency preparedness information under the thin veneer of mobile cadaver suppression. ;D They also throw a pretty good room party.
bikerscars
10-10-2007, 08:24 PM
what 'cha all mean 'going to happen'...
i see zombies all around me every day
working/shopping; working/shopping; working/shopping...
never questioning...
damn freaks...all need to be put out of their misery
blueback
10-10-2007, 09:56 PM
Do you think it's worth creating a product line specifically for the possibility (certanty) of a zombie attack?
I mean, no one would buy your stuff after the attack started because the economy would shut down. An infinite rate of inflation, if you will. So you'd have to sell it to people based on the idea that they will need it later, like spare batteries for when the power goes out.
Now what would really be good would be to stage a small zombie attack in an area where it can be easily put down, but not after a lot of news coverage. Then people would be clamoring to buy zombie repellant gear.
I can imagine a scenario now: where an euntreprenuer discovers a way to make zombies, but can't think of anyone who wants to buy zombies. So instead he does just what I described above. Everything goes according to plan and he gets rich off the IPO. But, one of the zombies had wandered away from the main herd and got lost in the sewers. It wanders around, eating rats, until is stumbles out of a drain a week later. Of course, only poor people live near sewer drains so it takes several days for the growing outbreak to catch anyone's attention. By then, of course, it is too late.
I suppose, once a zombie attack got underway, and I found out about it I would immediately google it to see whether or not we were dealing with fast zombies or slow zombies. If the former, I'd head for Hawaii. If the later, I'd grab a golf bag, stuff it full of hockey sticks, katanas, and baseball bats and head for the zombie hord.
Come on. You know that you would want to dance around the slow zombies and whack them in the head, too. It would be fun.
If the later, I'd grab a golf bag, stuff it full of hockey sticks, katanas, and baseball bats and head for the zombie hord.
Might want to get a golf cart to go with that. That golf bag sounds mighty heavy; even an extremely slow zombie horde can catch up to you if you're being weighted down by that...
Katana? What's with people and Japanese swords? Kill Bill is so overrated.
Wanna get messy? Horse & halberd FTW! A good horse could land some good kicks. A halberd could spear the bodies and decapitate the heads at a safe distance... :thumbsup:
rwyatt365
10-11-2007, 07:29 AM
If the later, I'd grab a golf bag, stuff it full of hockey sticks, katanas, and baseball bats and head for the zombie hord.
Might want to get a golf cart to go with that. *That golf bag sounds mighty heavy; even an extremely slow zombie horde can catch up to you if you're being weighted down by that...
Katana? *What's with people and Japanese swords? *Kill Bill is so overrated.
Wanna get messy? *Horse & halberd FTW! *A good horse could land some good kicks. *A halberd could spear the bodies and decapitate the heads at a safe distance... :thumbsup:
But the Katana is soooo KEWL (Nova had a show about the making of of so-called Samurai Swords recently. I watched it last night and was fascinated). The one thing that pissed me off was the thinly disguised Euro-centricism expressed in the "wonder" of the ability of the Japanese swordsmiths to create such a refined blade using such primitive techniques.
But the Katana is soooo KEWL (Nova had a show about the making of of so-called Samurai Swords recently. I watched it last night and was fascinated). The one thing that pissed me off was the thinly disguised Euro-centricism expressed in the "wonder" of the ability of the Japanese swordsmiths to create such a refined blade using such primitive techniques.
:thinking:
While the Europeans are busy intermarrying between royal families, having sex with someone else's wife, waging wars, stirring trouble in someone elses' land so them rich people can do their pilgrammage. The Japanese refine everything... They live on islands, close enough to China to send scholars/apprentices to learn from them, but frequently attacked by pirates...
1. What else do they have to do but refine what they've got?
2. They need this if they're to survive pirate raids.
lol - you guys are awesome, I love this topic. If I were an ecentric millionaire I would construct a zombie fortress as my primary residence. Complete w/ pillboxes, renewable energy sources on site, and other things I sometimes - literally - dream about. It would look similar to this...To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and this... To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
AntimonyLegault
10-11-2007, 09:28 PM
"what 'cha all mean 'going to happen'...
i see zombies all around me every day
working/shopping; working/shopping; working/shopping...
never questioning...
damn freaks...all need to be put out of their misery "
Ha...finally someone who shares that perspective.
They worship the god of empirical augmentation, you're either with or against, and even if they don't like you, you still have to do things for them to survive.
what 'cha all mean 'going to happen'...
i see zombies all around me every day
working/shopping; working/shopping; working/shopping...
never questioning...
damn freaks...all need to be put out of their misery
Ha...finally someone who shares that perspective.
They worship the god of empirical augmentation, you're either with or against, and even if they don't like you, you still have to do things for them to survive.
Psh... I'm probably one of them on days I SERIOUSLY lack sleep.
Tarrick
10-13-2007, 03:54 AM
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My wall...well, someday.
Well, it's about time that someone opened a topic with real, practical application!
When faced with faced with an actual zombie invasion – remove yourself to the hinterlands, stopping along to way to supply yourself adequately. Find the nearest Sports Authority, American Eagle, Cabela's, or other general outfitters store and STOCK UP. Head to the nearest (or perhaps furthest) strategic location; high ground preferably with good sight lines that are easily defensible and easy access to fresh water.
Take time to fortify your location. Close off any windows, leaving only gun slots. Bar every door except one, the main entrance and make sure that is strong and zombie-proof. Put a substantial grate across the chimney at several points to hinder ingress, booby-trap it if possible and make sure there is a roaring fire there at all times. If possible, construct a hidden, secret escape route or at least have a plan for emergency evacuation.
Weaponry;
- A brace of shotguns with deer slugs – they can blow off a head easily, plus they have good stopping power if you miss the head.
- Boomerangs (or throwing sticks of some sort) rigged with a razor edge – do it right and you can dismember, or behead a zombie – just don't try to catch them when/if they come back at you!
- At least one hand axe and machete for close-in combat
- Baseball bats…batter up! Time for a little Zombie Ball
- High explosives if you can get them (but I don't know what effect there would be to a blown-up zombie)
Notice I said nothing about rescuing family or friends. Unless I can guarantee their humanity, I would take no chances. Also, one of the main ways that people get caught is trying to save or rescue a loved-one from zombie attack, or failing to recognize that little Susie has already turned. So who's more important, you or little Susie?
I love Zombie movies! :P I would definitely want to be on your team (or similar NTJ team) if there was an invasion. Otherwise I probably be eaten or turn into one of them.
OneBadMother
10-13-2007, 10:33 AM
I'm not really worried about a zombie war, since zombies are so slow that they're hardly intimidating. I would probably get some food, water, a sniper rifle, a pistol for if they ever get close enough, a big metal pipe for if they get REALLY close, and bundles of ammo, get into a skyscraper, barricade the doors of the first five floors or so, then go up to the top and snipe some zombies. Of course, there's the problem of what happens when I run out of food, but I'll stock up on canned and dried foods in bulk. There's bound to be a little kitchenette area in a skyscraper used for business purposes, so I'll use whatever I can find from there. Also, if the sewage system ever gets shut down I can always drink from the numerous toilet tanks.
Of course, all this is moot if they're Marvel Zombies, in which case I'm just plain screwed.
I'm not really worried about a zombie war, since zombies are so slow that they're hardly intimidating. I would probably get some food, water, a sniper rifle, a pistol for if they ever get close enough, a big metal pipe for if they get REALLY close, and bundles of ammo, get into a skyscraper, barricade the doors of the first five floors or so, then go up to the top and snipe some zombies. Of course, there's the problem of what happens when I run out of food, but I'll stock up on canned and dried foods in bulk. There's bound to be a little kitchenette area in a skyscraper used for business purposes, so I'll use whatever I can find from there. Also, if the sewage system ever gets shut down I can always drink from the numerous toilet tanks.
Of course, all this is moot if they're Marvel Zombies, in which case I'm just plain screwed.
LOL!
I never said I was worried. "The hardest part of the zombie apocalypse is pretending I'm not looking forward to it."
Seriously, being allowed to violently dispose of these things using tactics and 'skillz' without the guilt?
Can it get any better than that?
Problem with your plan... what if they're in hordes? I can't possibly snipe them fast enough esp if you doing it from the sky scraper, you can't see them without your zoom, and the zoom really sucks at locating because it sees such a small area. (I know because it's happened to me in a game... except it wasn't a sky scraper) I just started dropping a grenade on them every once and a while :thumbsup:
Love the gun on the wall.
Zombies and OAP's (Old age pensioners).
Well, I take a bus between the company business park and the main corp offices in the city and this bus also picks up company workers and the general public at a "park & ride" parking lot...
Makes me laugh though.... as we pull into the "park & ride" I can see all the OAP's hobbling with walking sticks towards the bus (taking a bl**dy age) its like out of an epic of "Attack of the Zombies" in slow motion.
So, how would I fight them... Hmm.. closing the bus doors would probably work wonders...
OneBadMother
10-13-2007, 07:04 PM
I'm not really worried about a zombie war, since zombies are so slow that they're hardly intimidating. I would probably get some food, water, a sniper rifle, a pistol for if they ever get close enough, a big metal pipe for if they get REALLY close, and bundles of ammo, get into a skyscraper, barricade the doors of the first five floors or so, then go up to the top and snipe some zombies. Of course, there's the problem of what happens when I run out of food, but I'll stock up on canned and dried foods in bulk. There's bound to be a little kitchenette area in a skyscraper used for business purposes, so I'll use whatever I can find from there. Also, if the sewage system ever gets shut down I can always drink from the numerous toilet tanks.
Of course, all this is moot if they're Marvel Zombies, in which case I'm just plain screwed.
LOL!
I never said I was worried. *"The hardest part of the zombie apocalypse is pretending I'm not looking forward to it."
Seriously, being allowed to violently dispose of these things using tactics and 'skillz' without the guilt?
Can it get any better than that?
Problem with your plan... what if they're in hordes? *I can't possibly snipe them fast enough esp if you doing it from the sky scraper, you can't see them without your zoom, and the zoom really sucks at locating because it sees such a small area. *(I know because it's happened to me in a game... except it wasn't a sky scraper) I just started dropping a grenade on them every once and a while *:thumbsup:
Love the gun on the wall.
That's when the other key to the plan comes in. Zombies aren't very smart, so they might not notice if I pick them off one at a time. Also, they're less likely to catch my scent if I'm so high up than the scent of other, nearby humans, so they're less likely to go for me. Though I do like that grenade idea.
That's when the other key to the plan comes in. Zombies aren't very smart, so they might not notice if I pick them off one at a time. Also, they're less likely to catch my scent if I'm so high up than the scent of other, nearby humans, so they're less likely to go for me. Though I do like that grenade idea.
Hum... I don't know about the "less likely to catch [your] scent" idea. Wouldn't it just allow the wind to carry your scent further?
OneBadMother
10-13-2007, 07:45 PM
Hmm, true, though I'd still think it would be harder to catch from being diluted from me being that high up.
Hmm, true, though I'd still think it would be harder to catch from being diluted from me being that high up.
It's a long shot... but meh... it's possible
ShaiGar
10-17-2007, 11:33 AM
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Work in progress... If I have the inclination I'll continue it tomorrow
OneBadMother
10-17-2007, 02:04 PM
Nice, but why katanas? :P I'd say any slashing blade would do, like the aforementioned machete.
rwyatt365
10-17-2007, 04:49 PM
Nice, but why katanas? :P I'd say any slashing blade would do, like the aforementioned machete.
IMHO a katana is one of the finest blades available; great balance, excellent edge, designed for easy limb removal and/or decapitation. You really can't do much better.
IMHO a katana is one of the finest blades available; great balance, excellent edge, designed for easy limb removal and/or decapitation. You really can't do much better.
Defiantly one of the finest blades, but not very good for a zombie infestation imo.
It's too big and unless you're skilled, you'll be clumsy with it.
I'd much prefer doubled up short swords. It's faster, and more fit for fighting close up.
If you insist on Japanese swords, I'd say the Kodachi or double wield Wakizashis would be better.
Better yet, do like Elektra, and use a pair of sai.
But really, for speed and agility... scimitars! The curved blade makes for a clean exit after slicing. Not likely you're going to try to stab a zombie to death anyway.
rwyatt365
10-17-2007, 05:49 PM
Defiantly one of the finest blades, but not very good for a zombie infestation imo.
It's too big and unless you're skilled, you'll be clumsy with it.
I'd much prefer doubled up short swords. It's faster, and more fit for fighting close up.
If you insist on Japanese swords, I'd say the Kodachi or double wield Wakizashis would be better.
Better yet, do like Elektra, and use a pair of sai.
But really, for speed and agility... scimitars! The curved blade makes for a clean exit after slicing. Not likely you're going to try to stab a zombie to death anyway.
Agreed about the katana, it would take more skill than most could muster to be effective.
I like the Kodachi but don't you think the Wakizashi would be a little too short.
I see the sai as being more a piercing device, or a defensive tool - not much use in a zombie fight.
I think I would consider a Roman Gladius, but only if made of modern steel.
I like the Kodachi but don't you think the Wakizashi would be a little too short.
That's why you get one in each hand :thumbsup:
Sorry, I've got an image of Peter Jackson's version of Legolas fighting Orcs stuck in my head. ;D
I see the sai as being more a piercing device, or a defensive tool - not much use in a zombie fight.
Good point.
Guess it just looked cool to me at the time.
ShaiGar
10-17-2007, 07:45 PM
i chose katanas because i've had some training with them(enough to be skilled, not enough to master). and they're the lightest strongest long sword i could think of. I wanted light and long because i dont want to be worn out with a battleaxe, nor allow them to get too close. I'm a coward when it comes to that, much rather run, or be as far away from them as possible in a fight. However in a massive rampage, two Wakizashis for the win. much shorter, much more managable in a fight, much lighter. In a zombie fight you dont want any piercing weapons, or whacking weapons. Staff and sai and daggers are out. gotta take into account that they're already dead. you want limb removal, specifically legs or head
i chose katanas because i've had some training with them(enough to be skilled, not enough to master). and they're the lightest strongest long sword i could think of. I wanted light and long because i dont want to be worn out with a battleaxe, nor allow them to get too close. I'm a coward when it comes to that, much rather run, or be as far away from them as possible in a fight. However in a massive rampage, two Wakizashis for the win. much shorter, much more managable in a fight, much lighter. In a zombie fight you dont want any piercing weapons, or whacking weapons. Staff and sai and daggers are out. gotta take into account that they're already dead. you want limb removal, specifically legs or head
Oh I see... That's sweet!
Well my worry is that whether you like it or not, they're gonna get close. So I'd rather go with the shorter and lighter weapons.
Staff and sai are definitely out, but if I wanted to keep them at a distance, I'd probably rather go for a glaive. Again the Japanese have a form of it (the best form of it I must add; light, but strong) called the Naginata.
Man... now imagine that thing bladed on both ends... *drool*
ShaiGar
10-17-2007, 10:26 PM
yeah i thought about the naginata (learnt about it years ago after googling ashandarei), but as excellent as that weapon is, it still appears to be more of a weapon you'd use from a distance. double ended naginata? why not extend the double ended naginata blades so that you only have about 1 meter of handle...
:D :D :D Darth Maul Style. :D :D :D
Awesome Incarnate.
rwyatt365
10-18-2007, 05:19 AM
yeah i thought about the naginata (learnt about it years ago after googling ashandarei), but as excellent as that weapon is, it still appears to be more of a weapon you'd use from a distance. double ended naginata? why not extend the double ended naginata blades so that you only have about 1 meter of handle...
:D :D :D Darth Maul Style. *:D :D :D
Awesome Incarnate.
Awesome indeed *drool*
Nomad
10-21-2007, 11:37 PM
I would choose a woodsman's machete, thick, broad blade, finger guard and a back facing hook. It is a chopping weapon, unlikely to break, and the hook can be used to hook a zombies feet our from under them or to pull them off balance to make a coup de grace easier. A round shield made from stainless steel with a edge ground into the rim. That's for when their BO becomes offensive. A lochabar axe is a good choice, designed especially for appendage removal, please look up the Landsknecht mercenary companies.
The problem with artisinal weapons like a katana is that they require a great deal of maintenance, which you may not have the leisure for. I'd rather be alive than look cool.
For distance weapons, choose a high capacity, large caliber handgun like a H&K SOCOM, however, these firearms can be too large for smaller hands. Back it up with a single shot shotgun with the barrel and stock sawed off.For long range work, one of the 50 caliber sniper rifles work wonders. One shot at one mile projects enough force to dismember a human being. In live targets, if you get hit, you die. Hit your hand and it tears your arm off at the shoulder. you can kill a lot of zombies if you start shooting them a mile away. (I was a sniper in the Army in my youth) The idea is punch. Human death results from a loss of blood pressure. Zombies do not have this problem. You have to physically damage their bodies so it no longer functions as a threat. Large caliber, slow moving projectile weapons cause a great deal of damage.
Closer in, choose a firearm with a lot of punch, the slugs were a good suggestion. I am of two minds, capacity vs reliability. There are semiautomatic magazine fed shotguns available, with good capacity, but a simple pump like a Mossberg pump are far more reliable. The semi's have less felt recoil, which can be a factor after a two hour zombie assault, and they are faster to reload.
Also an assortment of WP and frag grenades.
Mobility would be key, a armored humvee armed with either a Mk19 grenade launcher or an m2 would be good, and a Bradley. The main gun is small enough and fast enough to be effective against zombies, and it has multiple gun ports built in. Also amphibious.
Flame throwers can be improvised from garden sprayers, gasoline, detergent and a zippo lighter, IED's and thermite grenades can be made from the contents any home depot or hardware store. Molotov cocktails are easy.
Po Boy napalm can be made with gasoline and detergent or flour.
For defense in place, think defense in layer, with interlocking fire and explosive traps, with mixed dismembering traps. Plan an underground escape route, or have a "panic room" built to cold war bomb shelter specs.
The tactical problem is one of numbers, not superior strategy or mobility or intelligence. The problem is that they just keep coming, and they don't get tired.
If the weather cooperates, and you can find one, a Davy Crockett is nice. A tactical nuclear weapon fired from a recoilless rifle with a range of three miles. Don't make em anymore. thats why the fallout shelter. You strategy is to service as many targets as possible from the greatest possible range, reduce their assets through attrition with unmanned perimeter defense weapons, and then go hunker down and in a secure position like a panic room until they get hungry enough to find someone easier. You other option is high mobility.
Anyone want to guess what I did in the military? [smiley=pirate.gif]
-Nomad
ShaiGar
10-22-2007, 12:26 AM
I would choose a woodsman's machete, thick, broad blade, finger guard and a back facing hook. It is a chopping weapon, unlikely to break, and the hook can be used to hook a zombies feet our from under them or to pull them off balance to make a coup de grace easier. A round shield made from stainless steel with a edge ground into the rim. That's for when their BO becomes offensive. A lochabar axe is a good choice, designed especially for appendage removal, please look up the Landsknecht mercenary companies.
The problem with artisinal weapons like a katana is that they require a great deal of maintenance, which you may not have the leisure for. I'd rather be alive than look cool.
For distance weapons, choose a high capacity, large caliber handgun like a H&K SOCOM, however, these firearms can be too large for smaller hands. Back it up with a single shot shotgun with the barrel and stock sawed off.For long range work, one of the 50 caliber sniper rifles work wonders. *One shot at one mile projects enough force to dismember a human being. In live targets, if you get hit, you die. Hit your hand and it tears your arm off at the shoulder. you can kill a lot of zombies if you start shooting them a mile away. (I was a sniper in the Army in my youth) The idea is punch. Human death results from a loss of blood pressure. Zombies do not have this problem. You have to physically damage their bodies so it no longer functions as a threat. Large caliber, slow moving projectile weapons cause a great deal of damage.
Closer in, choose a firearm with a lot of punch, the slugs were a good suggestion. I am of two minds, capacity vs reliability. There are semiautomatic magazine fed shotguns available, with good capacity, but a simple pump like a Mossberg pump are far more reliable. The semi's have less felt recoil, which can be a factor after a two hour zombie assault, and they are faster to reload.
Also an assortment of WP and frag grenades.
Mobility would be key, a armored humvee armed with either a Mk19 grenade launcher or an m2 would be good, and a Bradley. The main gun is small enough and fast enough to be effective against zombies, and it has multiple gun ports built in. Also amphibious.
Flame throwers can be improvised from garden sprayers, gasoline, detergent and a zippo lighter, IED's and thermite grenades can be made from the contents any home depot or hardware store. Molotov cocktails are easy.
Po Boy napalm can be made with gasoline and detergent or flour.
For defense in place, think defense in layer, with interlocking fire and explosive traps, with mixed dismembering traps. Plan an underground escape route, or have a "panic room" built to cold war bomb shelter specs.
The tactical problem is one of numbers, not superior strategy or mobility or intelligence. The problem is that they just keep coming, and they don't get tired.
If the weather cooperates, and you can find one, a Davy Crockett is nice. A tactical nuclear weapon fired from a recoilless rifle with a range of three miles. Don't make em anymore. thats why the fallout shelter. *You strategy is to service as many targets as possible from the greatest possible range, reduce their assets through attrition with *unmanned perimeter defense weapons, and then go hunker down and in a secure position like a panic room until they get hungry enough to find someone easier. You other option is high mobility.
Anyone want to guess what I did in the military? *[smiley=pirate.gif]
-Nomad
Quartermaster?
When shit goes down, I want you in my seaside fortress.
5 layers of 3 meter high fences. reinforced
8 Meters tall x 3 meters wide Cement/Steel reinforced walls.
5 sections, including a quarantine area for new arrivals.
You'd be Master of Arms
rwyatt365
10-22-2007, 08:15 AM
Right on Nomad! I like the way you think. :thumbsup:
ShaiGar
10-22-2007, 09:30 AM
seems though that Nomad is thinking "in the moment" without planning for the future, for defence or reasoning that ammunition is not something that you can shoot off screen to reload for.
sure you can top up your car with a lot of ammo, but that eventually runs down.
what about a base to retreat to?
rwyatt365
10-22-2007, 12:54 PM
seems though that Nomad is thinking "in the moment" without planning for the future, for defence or reasoning that ammunition is not something that you can shoot off screen to reload for.
sure you can top up your car with a lot of ammo, but that eventually runs down.
what about a base to retreat to?
True, but after roaming the countryside, ridding the nation of zombies and stockpiling fuel he (we?) can drop by your place for tea and cookies.
True, but after roaming the countryside, ridding the nation of zombies and stockpiling fuel he (we?) can drop by your place for tea and cookies.
Tea and biscuits... Cookies go with milk :thumbsup:
ShaiGar
10-22-2007, 08:26 PM
seems though that Nomad is thinking "in the moment" without planning for the future, for defence or reasoning that ammunition is not something that you can shoot off screen to reload for.
sure you can top up your car with a lot of ammo, but that eventually runs down.
what about a base to retreat to?
True, but after roaming the countryside, ridding the nation of zombies and stockpiling fuel he (we?) can drop by your place for tea and cookies.
Yes, but the entrance to my base has a quarantine area, you'd have to stay there for a month before entering the rest of it. :) I can furnish you with hydroponic supplies.
blueback
10-26-2007, 02:21 PM
Have any of you ever read The Day of the Triffids? To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.'s this greate post-apocalyptic book about a zombie infestation but instead of human zombies they're carnivorous plants. Anywho, there's this great "gun" in the book that shoots spinning disks which cut the stalk of the Triffids from a distance. I think something like that would be useful against zombies too. It would be like those soft disk guns that little kids play with except it would shoot razor-shart steel disks and cut zombies to pieces! What's even better is you can pick the disks up and use them again. It's got the best features of a katana and an assault rifle.
OneBadMother
10-26-2007, 02:33 PM
That sounds interesting, though I don't think razor-sharp would be as good against zombies. I'd suggest something with a serrated edge, but that'd just get stuck.
Maybe some kind of long-distance chainsaw? Better yet, build some kind of machine to chainsaw through zombies for you? <_<
cielo market
10-26-2007, 02:40 PM
I think we can all agree that those in our party who become infected will be shown no mercy. *[smiley=knife.gif]
C'mon people, this isn't a wait-n-see kind of situation!
rwyatt365
10-26-2007, 02:41 PM
Have any of you ever read The Day of the Triffids? *To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.'s this greate post-apocalyptic book about a zombie infestation but instead of human zombies they're carnivorous plants. *Anywho, there's this great "gun" in the book that shoots spinning disks which cut the stalk of the Triffids from a distance. *I think something like that would be useful against zombies too. *It would be like those soft disk guns that little kids play with except it would shoot razor-shart steel disks and cut zombies to pieces! *What's even better is you can pick the disks up and use them again. *It's got the best features of a katana and an assault rifle.
Good idea. Reuseable, recyclable and eco-friendly! "Green" zombie killing. :thumbsup:
OneBadMother
10-30-2007, 02:25 PM
On the topic of zombie wars... (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)
Off-key singing, fun music video.
TruorTupnm
10-30-2007, 10:52 PM
Um, I would use one of those nuclear fallout basement type places with lots of food and air and stuff. I'd just hide. Would bring nobody with me, because they might be infected or could go crazy from hiding for too long. Mayhaps have some cameras to watch, but they'd probably get destroyed after a while. That circular blade shooting thing sounds pretty cool for beheading as a last resort. Gotta have a shotgun. Killer robots, though, preferably. So what if they kill someone pretending to be a zombie? That person would have ended up a zombie out there, anyways. I helped him out. Lastly, something to numb all pain, just in case. I wouldn't wish to kill myself. It could be pretty cool to watch them tear me apart for as long as I could. Or I could still get rescued at the last second. Maybe? :( Zombies are far too scary, for myself. I like my brain. Only vampires are scarier.
Nomad
10-31-2007, 08:24 AM
seems though that Nomad is thinking "in the moment" without planning for the future, for defence or reasoning that ammunition is not something that you can shoot off screen to reload for.
sure you can top up your car with a lot of ammo, but that eventually runs down.
what about a base to retreat to?
I addressed this. A bomb shelter, nothing less would be sufficient. Build all the walls you like( even considering that you have to survive the zombies while you build it) 20000 zombies attack all ten of your walls, you kill 18000 and create ramps of bodies for the other zombies to climb and you are overwhelmed. If you are not overwhelmed , you have a problem with 20000 dead, decaying bodies just meters from where you live. Then you have space vs population issues, what is your maximal amount of people for your given square meterage and the supplies you can grow or store? Only essential personal could be allowed, people who can provide some valuable service, and consequently every one you lose to the zombies is a greater loss, until your system is unsustainable. Most sieges of walled cities were just matters of who could hold out longer, with cold, disease, hunger and thirst being the deciding factors. You have all these problems, the zombies don't. You will have to endure a 24/7 assault for months or years until until the zombies bodies decay to the point of not being a threat. A bomb shelter can do this, a walled fortress cannot.
So, Occam's razor. Bomb shelters already exist, no need to build them and waste time resources and lives to do so. Easily stocked and replenished by raids and such. Hermetically sealed and incapable of being opened from the outside. I'll personally take Cheyenne Mountain, thank you very much.
-Nomad
Nomad
01-29-2009, 07:56 PM
Howdy,
Long time no see. I have not been around because I have been searching all the world, from the snow encrusted peaks of the Andes to the jungles of Southeast Asia. I have kept watch, yes, a lonely sentinel in the night, searching, searching...
And now the war begins....
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Thought you might find that amusing. Not around because of 16 credits a semester, a full time job, and a mix of part time gigs and volunteer work.
hope you are all well, and pass along my warning..
The Zombies are coming.
:-)
Nomad
Kuroyue
01-30-2009, 04:39 PM
I won't actually contribute a plan, but there are some grey areas to be investigated before any battling begins.
-Source of zombies
-area and amount of zombies
-cognitive abilities and intelligence. And under this area:
---if conscious enough to handle thought processes, determine style and formation of combat, as well as their equipment, if any. Determine and investigate any leaders or apparent oddballs in the group
---if unconscious, determine their movement tendencies (arms held straight ahead? Fully functioning body, but with no lights on?)
---any peculiarities not previously expected of a typical zombie
-estimate the average physical capabilities of the zombies (walk and moan, or sprintclimbswingmachetti?)
-observe the efficiency of regenerative abilities, if any (achieved using the following factor: )
-Observe any current attacks toward the zombies, be it a lone idiot, a mob, an army, tank, airplane, etc. These are guinea pigs.
-Finally, gather the top relevant specialists and plan for a permanent solution.
-EDIT: also, consider strategic locations and any fallen cities.
I've probably left out a few elements, considering that I did not really read the rest of this thread beforehand.
nacht
01-30-2009, 04:43 PM
If you find out about the invasion early enough, relocate to Svalbard.
llBradll
01-30-2009, 04:47 PM
Make chain link fences around your stronghold. You can shoot the zombies through them because zombies can't climb
llBradll added to this post, 3 minutes and 10 seconds later...
IMHO a katana is one of the finest blades available; great balance, excellent edge, designed for easy limb removal and/or decapitation. You really can't do much better.
I agree. You could take heads off like it was going out of style
Kuroyue
01-30-2009, 04:48 PM
Make chain link fences around your stronghold. You can shoot the zombies through them because zombies can't climb
llBradll added to this post, 3 minutes and 10 seconds later...
I agree. You could take heads off like it was going out of style
They can't swim, either. Look for isolated islands and destroy bridges.
Maayan
01-30-2009, 04:49 PM
I'd dress up like a video game princess and convince a legion of nerds to protect me. :)
Zombicide
01-30-2009, 05:09 PM
And I. . .would fall for it
BostonIan
01-30-2009, 06:38 PM
I've always assumed that zombies couldn't swim. The question is whether they float or sink to the bottom and walk on the seafloor. If they walk on the bottom, islands aren't safe, but boats would be.
They don't seem too strong, so a simple bite-proof suit should suffice, made of something like kevlar or even a few layers of leather or denim should be enough. Zombies are slow, so an automatic rifle should peel through a whole herd of them.
Tactics involve machine guns and vans. Stop near a group of slow zombies, unload on them, run back to the van, drive away. Rinse and repeat.
llBradll
01-30-2009, 06:53 PM
I'd dress up like a video game princess and convince a legion of nerds to protect me. :)
I've already saved enough video game princesses.
SteveJrII
01-30-2009, 07:41 PM
I feel like the bomb shelter would be the best strategy. But how about staying on the roof of a sam's club or some type of bulk store. Just get on the roof with a tent, weapons and other supplies. Could get through the roof and to the top of the big shelves for additional supplies. which would be up too high for the zombies to reach. Wouldn't work as well if there are stairs to the roof. Might be able to hold out until the dead start to rot.
I'd dress up like a video game princess and convince a legion of nerds to protect me. :)
as long as you stay in one castle.....
Valiyn
01-30-2009, 07:55 PM
How would I fight a zombie war?
First, I would invest in some bullet proof head gear for my zombie army.
Next, I increase my numbers by hitting the big business and their CEOs. This leaves the stupid people to muck up the surviving INTJ plans to stop me, especially those extremely emotional people that always panic at the best possible moment for me.
Next, convert the SJ military with all the weapons into zombies. While the INTJ are off trying to survive, I'll be going in for their logistics and ammo. Zombies don't need to sleep. They can stand there all day and stare at the pockets of INTJ resistance untill the INTJs go to sleep. Ammo will be scarce and you can't hold the baseball bat forever.
My zombies will win the Zombie War.
Nihilum
01-30-2009, 08:39 PM
In addition to a zombie-safe skyscraper, extremely large ration supply, water, a sniper rifle, pistol, and army combat knife, I would want bullets (a lot of them) with a copper alloy jacket only at the tip and end (for protection from heat in the barrel) and a core made of cesium. Bullet lodges in zombie, and the zombie fluids react with the cesium to blow them apart.
That would be very fun to watch, but not very practical.
CaseBlue
01-30-2009, 09:29 PM
I think I would take out some frustrations on zombies that I would recognize. I know I'll be devoured in the end, but eh... I had a good run.
metamagnet
01-30-2009, 10:44 PM
Magic Missiles of course.
Best. Spell. Ever.
Indubitably
01-31-2009, 12:58 PM
We're INTJ's we're made for this kind of situation.
You know, I think both INTPs and INTJs really have to defer to the ISTPs when it comes to zombie survival. I know ISTPs you could drop off bucknaked in the middle of the forest and by the end of the day they'd be lounging under a makeshift lean-to in their new buck skin jacket while stirring some venison and wild tubers in an old hubcap hanging from barbwire over the fire they started by glaring for 40 minuets straight at a pile of twigs without blinking. ISTPs are about the most ninja-lonewolf-rambo survival badass types arround.
Neither INTJs nor INTPs are naturally talented at physical pursuits or terribly aware of their surroundings, INTJs do NOT suffer last minuet changes to their plans or improvisation well, and INTPs.. well, INTPs have a hard time remembering to tie their shoes in the morning, never mind remembering to grab the keys to their car when they are being chased by a half dozen ravenous zombies.
Indubitably added to this post, 6 minutes and 39 seconds later...
My zombies will win the Zombie War.
Oh but I beg to differ, your zombies will be no match for my swarm of flying zombie cyborg ninja kittens.
PS: Did I mention that they can burrow like naked mole rats, and come with optional rainbow sparkle name tag?
Curious Cat
01-31-2009, 01:12 PM
I'd kill myself to become a zombie, then I would through political machinations and murder become zombie queen, then I'd call off the war.
What is there another way?
AnotherNormal
01-31-2009, 03:15 PM
I remember the first zombie movie I saw :) I think it was one of the originals, I liked it :) For some reason I felt odd liking it.
Is there a new zombie movie coming out soon ?
What are some of the better zombie movies that are already out ?
As for plans in the event of a zombie invasion ... get way from the major population centers, can you imagine being in LA or NY ? Heck big cities are bad enough now ;)
Keep the car gassed up, spare fuel in the trunk. Space permitting have a reserve tank installed. Buy some land out of the city, build zombie proof compound.
In the event that plan A fails or is delayed ... there should be a number of contingency plans.
B. You are at work when zombies attack -
C. While on a road trip to the painted desert you hear about the zombie invasion over the radio -
nacht
01-31-2009, 10:01 PM
The katana is a beautiful blade, but it is relatively easy to break all things considered. Still would be extremely effective as an anti-zombie weapon.
I sort of like boar spears as well.
I've always assumed that zombies couldn't swim. The question is whether they float or sink to the bottom and walk on the seafloor. If they walk on the bottom, islands aren't safe, but boats would be.
They don't seem too strong, so a simple bite-proof suit should suffice, made of something like kevlar or even a few layers of leather or denim should be enough. Zombies are slow, so an automatic rifle should peel through a whole herd of them.
Tactics involve machine guns and vans. Stop near a group of slow zombies, unload on them, run back to the van, drive away. Rinse and repeat.
I think we established in World War Z that zombies sink and that most islands are therefore not safe. It also made flooded catacombs beneath paris nightmares to deal with.
Zombies are also generally portrayed as very strong, so a bite-proof suit is only effective if they don't try and pull you apart (joints only bend so far).
The problem with machine guns is that they are so bloody inaccurate against something that you basically need a head shot to kill. Maybe if you used the right kind of round...
Nihilum
01-31-2009, 10:06 PM
Which is why you use the aformentioned, but undeveloped, cesium round, Nacht.
nacht
01-31-2009, 10:10 PM
Which is why you use the aformentioned, but undeveloped, cesium round, Nacht.
Some kind of incendiary round is definitely a plus, but I still think you'd want to go for more precision than you can get with a van-mounted M60. Give me a Model 70 over a SAW any day ^^;;
Nihilum
01-31-2009, 10:16 PM
I agree, but you do have to admit it would be fun to just lay down some explosive bullets on zombies from the top of a building.
llBradll
01-31-2009, 10:44 PM
I'd kill myself to become a zombie, then I would through political machinations and murder become zombie queen, then I'd call off the war.
What is there another way?
But you're a zombie then so your plan wouldn't work too well without a brain.
Sliderule
01-31-2009, 10:45 PM
First of all what kind of zombies? Demonic/undead zombies or virus/plague zombies?
The first ones are a real bitch.
Nomadofthehills
01-31-2009, 11:08 PM
It seems many of the people posting here would die relatively soon. I suggest the works by Max Brooks to start with, and then expand your research. Zombie survival is no joke.
The defensive 'bite proof suit' is akin to the medieval suit of armor and just as that would prevent a sword edge reaching the flesh, so the BPS prevents the zombies teeth from reaching the flesh. The zombies lack of tool usage means that it need only defend against teeth and as such would be easy to implement. The zombies lack of intelligence means it would not occur to it to attempt to remove the suit prior or during biting. Although teeth resistant fabric would be desirable other variations can be conceived off such as the bubble suit, which would prevent the zombies teeth from gaining purchase or the porcupine suit which would spear any incoming zombies. Of course variations could be used. Since the zombie prefers the neck bite, a spiked collar would ensure a pierced zombie head.
The wall simply extends the perimeter of the bite proof suit out wards. If the zombie were to bite the suit but not the wall, then tests would be needed to determine the distance from the flesh that zombies cease to bite. Zombies inability to climb or use tools means that anything with sufficient strength and height would keep them out of your compound. Active walls, such as electrified fences, present the problem of zombie corpse build up which could lead to them eventually topping the wall.
Islands are more interesting in that the only defense they offer is a body of water. Being dead, drowning offers little threat to the zombie. Perhaps these work by fish attacks, once sufficient flesh has been removed we are left with a skeleton and defense against skeleton attacks is beyond the scope of this post. One has to consider that perhaps the efficacy of islands is due more to their isolation than anything else. A zombie on the shore has to know that their is an island over the horizon and that it contains fresh brains. Little information is available regarding the zombies detection range or method.
So assuming one has a well constructed and well stocked redoubt should one then seek to leave it in order to engage the zombies. All the information we have form the movies shows the immediate effects of a zombie invasion. Yet the zombies can be seen to eat corpses and even other zombies. If this is their energy source then simply sitting it out would be sufficient since the supply of living people would reduce leaving the zombies to starve.
Lets assume the zombies are able to detect brains at an infinite range, have an infinite energy source, do not decay etc. This means that staying put would not solve our problem and we need an active mechanism for eliminating them. The constant inflow of zombies would eventually overwhelm any walls we could build. Perhaps then we should keep hyenas who have little problem withe eating rotting flesh. There are no zombie hyenas or crows. As the zombies come in the well fed animals would grow in numbers providing a self maintaining system.
The design of your redoubt must also be considered. We have to assume that their will be zombie penetrations and random deaths within the populace will lead to internal zombie production. At a primitive level dogs could be used to warn of zombie presence yet that would not prevent propagation. Thus a chambered approach must be used. A series of doors with combination locks for example, every door could have the same number but it would still be beyond a zombie to open. This would allow for containment and the zombies therein could be dispatched using conventional suit and sword methods.
Nomadofthehills
02-01-2009, 09:22 AM
Your animal scenario assumes that zombies provide adequate nutrition. Sure, hyenas and crows can eat rotting flesh, but they really require more than that to survive. Most predators eat the liver and other organs of their prey, ensuring proper vitamin accumulation. I fear that after the population of predators increase with the number of zombies, eventually they would cease breeding, as their supplemental food (ie nonzombie animals) would have run out, and their condition would decrease.
Snowdragon
02-01-2009, 03:08 PM
With a wooden 2x4 with a nail on the end, just like in Silent Hill 2.
Last night, I had a dream about being James Sunderland in Silent Hill 2.
Nomadofthehills
02-01-2009, 09:22 PM
With a wooden 2x4 with a nail on the end, just like in Silent Hill 2.
Last night, I had a dream about being James Sunderland in Silent Hill 2.
Highly inefficient. You will die.
Lycurgus
02-01-2009, 09:48 PM
Two words; Underground Bunker.
A large, fortified, underground bunker with concrete walls and a large, Steel door. With the Silo converted into Living Area / Food Storage / Energy Generation, and enough canned goods to last for years, even with multiple people.
With a small arms room that includes multiple;
Remington 1100's (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) (although, I have to admit that the Armsel Striker (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) is appealing, if only for the fact that it has replaceable, rather than fixed, magazines).
M249 (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) Squad Automatic Weapons.
Carbine M82CQ .50 BMG rifle (pictured, top) (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), which will rip flesh to shreds a few inches in any given direction from the shock wave and Barrett M82's (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) for longer range.
I would probably include a number of M16's (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) and To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.]M4's[/url], for lighter armament.
I would also attempt to acquire fully automatic weapons from the (then abandoned) military bases on raids that I would conduct with my 15 survivor allies.
And room to expand, I'd have multiple empty rooms which I could store food / add survivors to my underground colony.
Also, camera systems topside. I might even try to build a small, well fortified, city above my underground bunker if there were enough of us... but lets wait to plan for that until after I rele-- I mean, until after something something happens. ;)
OmegaPsi
02-01-2009, 10:02 PM
Several of my choice weapons for fighting zombies would be:
Home-made Flamethrower (Super-Soaker with a lighter at the end.)
Katana (Got that from you guys =))
and my favorite weapon for zombies would have to be the good ol' shotgun.
Oh and lots of red barrels...
EDIT: Wanted to keep this realistic
Lycurgus
02-01-2009, 10:05 PM
EDIT: Wanted to keep this realisticZombie war, realistic, really?
OmegaPsi
02-01-2009, 10:24 PM
Zombie war, realistic, really?
Its always the disbelievers that get infected first.
;D
AnotherNormal
02-01-2009, 11:28 PM
Would need to do some research into what caliber round is needed for the head shot to be effective.
50 cal and shotguns are impressive but the ammo gets heavy. Utilizing 223 would be a good idea if it proves to be effective,
Lycurgus
02-01-2009, 11:48 PM
Would need to do some research into what caliber round is needed for the head shot to be effective.
50 cal and shotguns are impressive but the ammo gets heavy. Utilizing 223 would be a good idea if it proves to be effective,A .223 would do damage, but I don't think it would do sufficient damage to obliterate the CNS, which is necessary in order to completely stop a Zombie.
questionableme
02-02-2009, 12:21 AM
Can someone tell me why zombies eat brains? And don't say it's because they're hungry.
Lycurgus
02-02-2009, 12:22 AM
Can someone tell me why zombies eat brains? And don't say it's because they're hungry.It's because they're hungry -- for brains.
questionableme
02-02-2009, 01:37 AM
It's because they're hungry -- for brains.
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
AnotherNormal
02-02-2009, 01:46 PM
hmmmm .223 might be a little lite. 7mm is on my list as a possible caliber, might as well make it hollow point.
dragonsscout
02-02-2009, 09:53 PM
Hmm. Some of these plans sound good, if I could get the resources and a long term base. For mass zombie killing though, it seems like slowly retaking areas by building fortified areas would be a good strategy. You'd also want to wait awhile until most of the 'original' zombies died from starvation or decomposition.
Mine's pretty straightforward. For slow, dumb zombies, it's hit up the Big 5 across the street as soon as it's possible/safe. There are hunting rifles, crossbows, ammunition, and flint, etc. there. While I'm there I can go to the Safeway in the same place to get stocked up on non-perishables. Next, on bike, hit up the stables at UCD if there are suitable horses, get some goats, get some books on the subject of goat farming (and be sure to save my friend who knows about goats), get some grains. Now, unlike what it says in the Zombie Survival Guide, freeways would be great, as people go to sleep before becoming zombies (usually) so there wouldn't be too many cars on the road. Now we can either go to the Sierra Nevada Range, or to the coast, then take a ship down to one of the Channel Islands.
So as far as weapons go, it would be thus:
Hunting Rifles (I know how to clean and shoot guns)
Hunting Crossbows
Machete/Bat/Crowbar/Axe
Survival Knives/Hatchet
Armor:
Tough, padded clothing. Nothing too heavy or flashy. I would imagine that 2-3 layers of cargo pants or jeans should be okay with a tough jacket, probably denim or leather. Boots, duct tape, gloves, and a helmet with a clear face shield would be good. Camo would be good, since zombie presumably have to see you first (or hear you).
Transport:
Van+Trailer (to get to final destination)
Bikes(short-term)
Horses(if I can adequate ones, time used varies)
The Day of the Triffids is a great book. That's actually why I like the island idea and long-term sustainability so much.
Dear Leader
02-04-2009, 08:28 AM
With a great big grin on my blood splattered face. ;D
Practically though, if it were to happen I would most likely be in the house. It's not the greatest fortification there ever was but I would assume it hold the brain dead zombies at bay long enough to get tooled up.
Going by what's in the house at the moment the only weapons I'd be able to gather would be-
One very rusty samurai sword
A baseball bat that was whittled by my brother
An early 19th century half metal bound bible with very sharp edges
A box of matches
A variety of slightly rusty implements out the tool bucket
A variety of kitchen knives
An three year old mitsubishi [although it could easily be mistaken for 47 years, especially the way it handles on the corners]
Against a full horde of flesh eating blighters this arsenal wouldn't serve me well. I'd have to find people I could rely on so I'd venture out in search of my friends, leaving my immediate family to become lunch.
They stay all over the place, so if I managed to survive rounding them all up I'd insist we head to the nearby castle. It contains a cannon which doesn't fire, but which would certainly squash a few of the undead. It has tall, steep walls the brainless horde would fail to climb. And it has a tourist office where we can all have a nice cup of tea.
It would then be necessary to get in contact with the other survivors and the remains of the military, but I suspect we'd end up just drinking tea and arguing over the number of points awarded for a groin shot as opposed to a head shot...
Snowdragon
02-04-2009, 08:31 AM
Highly inefficient. You will die.
I could always use my chainsaw/gun.
AnotherNormal
02-04-2009, 01:54 PM
It would then be necessary to get in contact with the other survivors and the remains of the military, but I suspect we'd end up just drinking tea and arguing over the number of points awarded for a groin shot as opposed to a head shot...
This brings up an interesting point. Just as there are intjs scattered around, there would be survivor groups scattered around.
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ranwayslo
02-04-2009, 02:56 PM
I work in law enforcement. This has allowed me to develop that small core of really close friends that provides my support. Relevant? Yes, as it turns out there are a surprising number of police/military types who believe in the "Zombie Apocalypse." This is of course a bit of silliness, but I have become enamored with the large number of problems presented by this situational fantasy. For example I know that almost all people spend a great deal of time considering the acquisition of firearms, however almost none of them have considered the ammunition. I have for myself determined that the key role for me in fighting during the zombie apocalypse would be to make myself invaluable by learning the art of re-loading ammunition. In this support role I would be less likely to be exposed to infection/death by the zombies therefore allowing me to survive longer.
Oops...I just showed my inner nerd...didn't I?
firebee
02-04-2009, 03:12 PM
I have for myself determined that the key role for me in fighting during the zombie apocalypse would be to make myself invaluable by learning the art of re-loading ammunition. In this support role I would be less likely to be exposed to infection/death by the zombies therefore allowing me to survive longer.
Axes don't need reloading :ninja:
Nomadofthehills
02-04-2009, 09:01 PM
But ATP does, you will get tired.
Feral
03-10-2009, 09:36 AM
Ok, so you wake up one day, and you find out that the zombie invasion has begun. What do you do!?
Here's what I'd do:
I wake up early. Usually some time between 2-4 am, depending on if I have to work or not. Usually, these hours are when the zombie infestation is just starting to get out of hand.
I will definitely have to leave my apartment. It is not safe here, and I have no way of making it safe.
First stop- Walmart. 5 miles away. Most people are going to be too busy sleeping, getting eaten, or being undead at this hour, so my neighborhood is going to be rather quiet on the road until everyone starts waking up and going crazy. Luckily, this Walmart is open 24/7, so I won't have to break in. I don't want to break in. I want everything intact. Because I'm taking it over.
Why Walmart? Well, it's a super center, so they've got tons of food. There's also guns, and lots of nifty stuff you can make other weapons with. It's a pretty good staging area. There aren't any windows along the sides, and the windows in the front will be fairly easy to barricade.
Here, I and whoever else is working at Walmart will hole up for a little while, until things die down outside, taking in survivors when they come around. Naturally, new comers would have to be watched very very carefully until one could be absolutely certain that they hadn't been bitten or whatever.
We wouldn't likely be there for long though, because there is a safer place, and it's no more than 7 miles away. Costco is a veritable fortress, and could sustain a good handful of people for a pretty long time. It's got stuff for gardening, and we could grow some stuff if really necessary. Generators wouldn't be terribly hard to come by, and gas wouldn't be expensive at all! It's also fairly close to Kmart and WinCo... and the Columbia river.
In any society that collapses, there's always some assholes running around and trying to take people hostage for their own good and stupid shit like that. Costco is a good location because we could defend it as long as we had ammunition. That's going to be the challenge, finding ammo.
Once things cool off a little bit, we can hit the river. Boats aren't hard to find, and we could probably have a pretty decent little fleet by the time we're ready to head out. No use in putting all of your eggs in one boat that could sink and kill everyone! We could take a lot of shit with us via this river. Barges have no problem. And then, to the coast. Find somewhere to restock all of our supplies, find some good maps (hopefully by then we have someone who knows how the hell to navigate properly), and find ourselves a nice island that isn't overrun by the undead.
And yes, I am a nerd.
Kisai
03-10-2009, 11:25 AM
You guys are all nuts for taking the zombies head on.
I'd run down to the CDC and inject me an ebola monkey epidemic. Fight fire with ebola monkeys!
Feral
03-10-2009, 11:54 AM
You guys are all nuts for taking the zombies head on.
I'd run down to the CDC and inject me an ebola monkey epidemic. Fight fire with ebola monkeys!
But what if zombism passes to monkeys?
Then we're screwed.
Plus, what do Ebola monkeys know about removing the head or destroying the brain?
Kisai
03-10-2009, 12:00 PM
In 3 weeks, everything is going to be a warm pile of goo. Monkeys, zombies, and freedom fighters.
Sequoia
03-10-2009, 04:17 PM
First of all, I'd find a steamroller....
HeyZeus
03-10-2009, 07:49 PM
anti-gravity device.
iuvat
03-11-2009, 02:06 AM
Fence off my house. The front side is made mostly of windows, and there is plenty of deck to stand on, so I'd sheet metal off the front, with head level holes for spears to save bullets. Just poke the head of the zombie from above if it gets too close.
Buy a generator, the water runs off a well. As long as my satellite Internet company doesn't go down, I'm set for years. The neighbors can afford a little food in return for stay in my super-fortress.
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