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Rick
11-15-2007, 10:36 PM
I read this article a couple of years ago and was impressed enough that I bookmarked it.

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I'm a 44 year old INTJ and have seen a lot. Enough to see some extremely significant changes in our country and culture. I'm very concerned with where things are headed. I see entropy, and entropy loses. Reasoned response and planning win.

I have another site bookmarked, but can't find it at the moment. Essentially, it points out that we are being invaded from the south, and that it is a peaceful invasion from Mexico and South America. It is intelligently written, and particularly talks about cultures in terms of their dominance and submissiveness. We in the US are the dominant culture (for now). In that perspective, we will be dominant til we are outnumbered, then we will become submissive when the incoming culture exerts it's dominance. It is a question of who is being assimilated. Within the history of our country, others have come here and embraced the culture, trying to fit in. This situation is different.

I'm not at all racist and wish all well. I was the production manager in my last job, and the majority of the workforce only spoke Spanish. I was the only Spanish speaking manager there, and had lots of friends among my workers.

Overall, what I see is a loss of logic, or a resignation from it.

Thoughts? Anyone else concerned?

brewmaster
11-16-2007, 12:32 PM
I won't comment in depth on the "invasion from the south," only that when I hear topics like this I am reminded of a quote from Family Guy: "Look its the three symbols of the Republican party, a fat white guy afraid of change."

As to the linked article and your seeing a loss of logic. Well, the president isn't really swamped. All those scenarios and fears mentioned in the article are artificial. Intentionally created by the current administration to create a sense of chaos. The loss of logic and derailment of society is intended to take the job of thinking away from the populous so that they become the only authority that is looked to for the answers.

Santana28
11-16-2007, 01:46 PM
Google "North American Union" when you get a chance...

Figmentum
11-16-2007, 03:13 PM
The UK is being invaded "Peacefully" by muslim extremists. America is being invaded by "Peaceful" Latin American druglords. Oh my, isn't this just dandy! This is why republicans AND democrats can kiss my ass. Repubs in Gov are too stupid, Dems in Gov are too flimsy.

ShaiGar
11-16-2007, 05:49 PM
This is off topic slightly I know...
All I have ever seen is a planet with landmasses, and just one more species of vertebrates. I could never look down at the earth and see political boundaries ('cept australia of course we occupy the whole landmass)

blueback
11-17-2007, 02:32 AM
True. I'm serving in the US military; we swear loyalty to the Constitution. So, basically, I committed to a set of uncorrupted guiding principles. I'm just fine with that.

There hasn't been a single power structure in history that didn't unravel at some point, so the US will probably disappear or change form eventually. At least the principles have had time to become ingrained in more than 300 million people. . .they should stick around after this incarnation of them disappears.

stasis
11-18-2007, 02:09 AM
You can't stop the social evolution (or devolution, depending on your perspective) that accompanies the collision and exchange of culture. There's no point even trying. The thing to try to do, I think, is to agitate for that social evolution being a sum improvement over what previously existed. A productive fusion.

I think the problem with "assimilation," the reason the invasion hypothesis might have some merit, is its being set back by the modern notion of multiculturalism. Which is: cooperating but compartmentalized, egalitarian but proud, unified but distinct ethno-cultural enclaves. When people are encouraged by the mainstream culture to define themselves along distinct ethno-cultural lines, as opposed to (for example) national lines, they don't assimilate very far. They exude. And in doing so, they aren't fusing either - the fusion of culture being a sort of mutual assimilation.

blueback
11-18-2007, 02:29 AM
What he said.