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jimmywho
09-27-2008, 11:16 PM
Is it just me or do most INTJ want to rule the world, or atleast run it from the shadows?
The idea keeps running through my head.
I've thought about a career in politcs but i'm far too honest and blunt. I'm sad for humanity, i could fix this whole damn place lol.
jimmywho
09-27-2008, 11:26 PM
ya i wouldn't go for the political approach, I would opt for a social revolution leading to a restructuring of the government, but is harder than it seems
I don't want to rule the world. I really just want to be left the hell alone. But it would be nice if people would take the time to reform things properly.
abudevauhnne
09-27-2008, 11:52 PM
Not really. I have too much of my sh*t to work out; I don't want to deal with their problems, too.
I don't want to rule the world. I really just want to be left the hell alone. But it would be nice if people would take the time to reform things properly.
Exactly.
Ligda
09-28-2008, 12:38 AM
Hmmm... too much responsibility. I would rather be asked what my opinion is, and have it be taken seriously. Politics definitely aren't for me, but I wouldn't mind being heard.
Radamisto
09-28-2008, 01:03 AM
As an anarchocapitalist I believe that politics should be abolished. Moreover, as an epicurean, I maintain that politics should be avoided if one desires to be happy. So no, I don't want to take over the world.
Most INTJs are not the power-hungry types. I myself have little interest in ruling the world, since I don't really give a shit about other people.
It would be an interesting challenge.
blueback
09-30-2008, 07:53 PM
I'm not sure it's possible to rule the world. I do plan on fixing a portion of it, though.
Dave C C
09-30-2008, 10:01 PM
Rule no, destruction is more enjoyable.
Sean O
09-30-2008, 10:18 PM
I would definitely like to rule the world from the shadows.
Tocsin
10-01-2008, 08:38 AM
From what I've seen of INTJ preferences here, I'd say that most INTJs do not want to be "the guy (or gal) who rules the world," but we would be quite content to stand behind him constantly tapping him on the shoulder to tell him what he did wrong and what he should have done instead.
Valiyn
10-01-2008, 09:00 AM
Of course, puppets are more disposable then INTJs.....
It's not like we committed any war crimes, cruel and insane methods, or anything else you can put blame on someone for. It was all the puppet's fault! You can't seriously believe that someone who ruled the world didn't have the power to control the sweet, innocent INTJ, all alone in the dark shadows? There is a list of evidence a mile long showing that there is no connection between the INTJ and the current puppet or the 32 puppets before him.
Elsien
10-01-2008, 01:04 PM
Sadly no man will be able to handle running the world, the simple fact is that no matter who you are: Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The only real way for the world to be at peace is for each individual to become at peace and balanced with his/her self and one another.
We need to wake up and realize we are individuals from a social standpoint but our spirits are bound to everyone. You are just as much me as I am you.
Even Atheists cannot deny the fact they have had a coincidence, gut feeling, or an experience that cannot be explained under normal circumstances. Knowing without knowing, feeling auras etc.
Canegrande
10-02-2008, 08:28 AM
I don't think I'd want to be responsible for the whole world. Now some resource-rich South American country with access to the sea would be my cup of tea. In fact, I think I'll go practise my Spanish lessons.
Alexander
10-05-2008, 12:13 PM
I've thought about a career in politcs but i'm far too honest and blunt. I'm sad for humanity, i could fix this whole damn place lol.
Politics isn't the answer I think, there's so little you can do in that system. Think outside the box man.
I've got my own little world changing plan in the works. It might work, it might not, but either outcome is more interesting than not trying at all. No real intention to rule the world, just see some problems with it and want to give my shot at fixing them.
Tocsin
10-05-2008, 01:25 PM
Even Atheists cannot deny the fact they have had a coincidence, gut feeling, or an experience that cannot be explained under normal circumstances. Knowing without knowing, feeling auras etc.
I can.
I can honestly say that I've never seen or experienced something beyond reality, something that people would describe as a cosmic truth, metaphysical, supernatural, or miraculous experience.
I enjoy and find beauty in art, music, nature, and life probably as much as anyone else, but I've never harbored any belief that there is any form of supernatural consciousness or spiritualistic basis for those things or my appreciation of them.
And doesn't "knowing without knowing" sound a little like a ridiculous contradiction?
MindOverMatter
10-07-2008, 12:54 PM
I would love to rule the world or at least be put into a position where I could do some noticable good.
LaoTzu
10-07-2008, 03:25 PM
I can honestly say that I've never seen or experienced something beyond reality, something that people would describe as a cosmic truth, metaphysical, supernatural, or miraculous experience.
I enjoy and find beauty in art, music, nature, and life probably as much as anyone else, but I've never harbored any belief that there is any form of supernatural consciousness or spiritualistic basis for those things or my appreciation of them.
And doesn't "knowing without knowing" sound a little like a ridiculous contradiction?
Never smoked weed I guess ;) It was fun for a while, and I did get to experience all those feelings through it, but those feelings stopped coming by so frequently, so I quit smokin' and got back to thinking clearly.
Fused together, clearly and not so clearly has worked out pretty good for me.
I'd like to run the world from the shadows. I've always thought of myself as a Bhodisattva, and that would make the job so much easier.
Maybe if everyone just came to me for advice, it would be enough :)
But rule?? Nah.... Im much to modest for that.
Fireath
10-07-2008, 04:11 PM
I'm a Physicist. I think you can infer the rest. ;)
Fanowene
10-08-2008, 01:29 AM
From what I've seen of INTJ preferences here, I'd say that most INTJs do not want to be "the guy (or gal) who rules the world," but we would be quite content to stand behind him constantly tapping him on the shoulder to tell him what he did wrong and what he should have done instead.
Yeah, something like that. But maybe I wouldn't want to stand behind the person constantly. I wouldn't be able to do enough research about what is going on. I most definitely would like to fix the world. But I don't know enough yet. :cry: I'd be afraid I'd mess it up more than I'd help. So I just let the world run as it is, just fixing small problems I'm sure of how to solve (and of which the required effort fits into my time schedule).
I would definitely like to rule the world from the shadows.
Yeah, that sounds awesome. I'd like to do it in a group, though, not alone. And I wouldn't want anybody to know what I am doing (I guess she shadows thing would imply that).
enWTFp
10-08-2008, 07:47 AM
I would be happy to make a positive change in the world with some of my activities. But before all, I would like to avoid negative impact.
One of the biggest obstacles that begin to appear is that, after sufficient understanding of the world, the positive and the negative all begin to blur and the world itself is not really that well defined as object that deserves positive or negative contribution.
In the end it seems it is more a choice whether to influence or not to influence. My philosophy tends to choose not to influence, because I'm not sure anymore that it would be good. I tend to keep most of my creations unpublished, so that if they by some wild chance influence somebody, at least this is after my death, and hence a little less responsibility.
Kisai
10-08-2008, 06:22 PM
I'd be happy to run the world, but its too much of a bother to get everyone else to my way of thinking. I'm more content studying and understanding things in this lifetime.
Elsien
10-09-2008, 12:04 PM
I can.
I can honestly say that I've never seen or experienced something beyond reality,
And doesn't "knowing without knowing" sound a little like a ridiculous contradiction?
Reality is what you know and see, touch, feel, smell, hear. On a logical basis it would be both correct and incorrect to say that reality are those things.
Correct because: Your reality is different from someone else's reality. What you know is what your brain has nuro-netted together creating reality in your brain. Based on that you are correct, in your reality you have never experienced the things I mentioned above, now contrary to how i said it before, Just because YOU haven't allowed/experienced thse things I mentioned doesn't mean that they simply do not exist.
I say incorrect because: Reality is what we make it. We literally have the ability as humans to make unexplainable things happen. Now to simply call these things a coincidence, miracle working, supernatural yadda yadda, is to simply play into the system of thought that is our world today. When we say these words they come with weight and prejudice. However to deny that things outside of our normal senses, and socialistic being do not exist is just simply ignorance. This is not to say that you are ignorant, but saying that maybe these things have come up in your life and you chose to view them a certain way.
Now I do admit I have experienced certain coincidences completely random wile under the influence of weed. However when taking the same level of coincidence, completely straight laced, no drugs or alcohol or any other substance. Through meditation I have been able to manifest things to happen multiple times. Normally it would seem as a coincidence, but when effort is put forth and results happen which are a direct goal of an influential being, It makes it more that a coincidence.
Bottom line is that no one can rule the world, we al have to become enlightened and only then can the human race live in peace and harmony and equality.
However I am not stupid enough to believe that this will be easily if ever, achieved. Simply because people have what I like to call "Societies Wall" build around their entire being.
Also.. Knowing without knowing means that you know it but you do not know how you know it, you just do, it can be confused with faith in the christian religion, but this is more of a realistic standpoint on the subject. Knowing without knowing is the first step into a larger much deeper rabit hole. The more you go down, the more you come to realize why you know what you know, further enabling your self to reach great heights on many different levels of 'reality'
PHS Philip
10-09-2008, 12:05 PM
I want to take the idiots responsible for the state the world's in (about half the world's population), smack their heads into a wall a few times, then take over and fix all the stuff they've screwed up. On the other hand, if someone else could do it for me, I'd prefer that so I can do something enjoyable instead.
Chrysalis
10-10-2008, 08:52 PM
Absolutely! And I don't mind the responsibility. Ruling from the shadows would be satisfying as well though.
Monster
10-11-2008, 11:22 AM
Jimmywho, you should really go for the media business. You know, make a movie, run a newspapper, launch a tv station, produce a tv show, there's a lot of people like you and they really think they rule the world when they got to the media and enjoy putting crap in other people minds :-)
Power sucks.
Who needs power if you are power? At least when you're on your own. Praises and pawns and glamor life sytle are futile anyway.
So... no, no world conquering now, I prefer conquering my own consciousness first.
Infinel
10-12-2008, 12:13 AM
I dont care for ruling over people. But when I see people in leadership positions do stupid things, I get the feeling that things would be better if I were in charge or at least someone with my thoughts and values.
It might work in theory but I'm not sure how it would go over with the rest of the population.
msfeldha
10-16-2008, 06:41 PM
There is a difference between wanting to rule the world and wanting to change the way people think. All I want is for others to be self-conscious, resourceful and take personal responsibility for their actions. If I have to take over the world to do it so be it.
Reganon
10-25-2008, 08:26 PM
I have always wanted to rule the world, although I have accepted that it is not possible, nor practical, to completely control every person on Earth.
Hatsumomo1
11-06-2008, 11:39 PM
Rule the world? Nah, I don't feel like hearing complaints from every corner of the globe (and you know you would.) Too much BS that I don't care to deal with, not to mention I don't think having a world ruler would be the smartest thing to have. I can't trust anyone enough to live under their shadow no matter where I hide. At least if they just rule a continent or a country you can escape.
I will be more than happy to wait for them to screw up though. I'll be the one who's leading the flaming torch and pitchfork crowd armed to the teeth, ready to set things straight.
John F Kennedy
11-07-2008, 10:39 AM
I'm too busy ruling everything else.
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