What you look like [mbti type features]

[quartertone]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though. descriptive title

[bikerscars]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though.


skinny yes-although athletic
pale-no
bloodless-no
short haired-yes now, but long haired in my 20's
penetrating yet vacant look-ehh sort of

[Rei]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though.

:suspicious: Like Lord Voldemort?

I'm pretty compact - small but atheletic -
Pale but not bloodless... the paleness gives me a really bright flush after excercise/alcohol/embarassment *:(
Hair really depends on the season and what I felt like giving an impression of during that time.
Penetrating yet vacant? *I don't know... I'll have to ask someone I look at a lot *;D

Edit:
Actually, a better example would be vampires...

[quartertone]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though.

:suspicious: Like Lord Voldemort?

I'm pretty compact - small but atheletic -
Pale but not bloodless... the paleness gives me a really bright flush after excercise/alcohol/embarassment :(
Hair really depends on the season and what I felt like giving an impression of during that time.
Penetrating yet vacant? I don't know... I'll have to ask someone I look at a lot ;D

I guess. But the examples were more like rachmaninoff.

I am tall skinny pale and lanky, but I have long hair and facial hair. And quite a menacing stare, too!

[Firelie]

Skinny? Haha, I don't think I'd look skinny even if I was anorexic. I'm fat, but I like to think of myself as a "sturdy woman" ;D

Pale? Got me there. Kinda hard to avoid paleness in Portland, unless you spend the entire summer outside and have enough tan to last you through the winter.

Bloodless? No, I'm quite pink.

Short-haired? Eh, yeah. Curls + long hair = big mess. My head is easier to contain when the hair is short.

Penetrating yet vacant look? I'd have to see that to understand. It doesn't sound very possible to me. The only time I suspect I look vacant is when I'm daydreaming, the rest of the time I'm too busy watching everything around me.

[wolf]

Skinny? Haha, I don't think I'd look skinny even if I was anorexic. I'm fat, but I like to think of myself as a "sturdy woman" ;D
I'm not skinny, either. I was, once, in my youth. I'm rather large in build for my size...

Oh, and I really like sturdy women. :D


I'm pale, short-hair, trimmed-beard... I may look very penetratingly at things, but I don't think I ever look vacant. I'm not sure, though. I feel flush easily sometimes, but I don't look red, or so people claim, so maybe I do look "bloodless".

Anyhow: Missing on at least one point, possibly as many as three.

[lollercancer]

6'2, 185, half-athletic. short to long hair, whatever i feel like having. tan in the summer, pretty pale in the winter. I have a serious look on my face by default, but i always smile and laugh. some girl told me that i reminded her of a wrestler O.o

[Guido]

skinny: yes
pale: yes
bloodless: no (I'm a robot, not a vampire :D)
short haired: yes (For a guy, it might be a little longer than 'short'. Usually 2-4 inches)
penetrating yet vacant look: probably

The 'penetrating yet vacant look' thing made me laugh. I've noticed this in almost anyone I consider interesting to talk to. I would also imagine that a lot of people would describe me in this way.

As for my INTP friend:

skinny: yes
pale: yes
bloodless: yes
short haired: kind of (longer hair than mine. 3-5 inches)
penetrating yet vacant look: kind of (only when he's focused)

[anul]

Skinny: I like to think of myself as a rubenesque male.

Pale: I'm about as pale as I can get I think.

Bloodless: One day.

Short haired: I get confused for a women about once a week. My hair is just past my shoulders and I have giant civil war sideburns. Sometimes if I'm in a bar area I'll let my hair down to see if men confuse me for a women. Usually they do confuse me for a women.

Penetrating yet vacant look: People always think I'm pissed off even when I'm not.

[Jezebel]

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance.
socionics?
INTjs have a characteristic ascetic face. There are two reason for this. Firstly the facial structure itself is often reminiscent of ancient portraits because of its angularity and composition of the features, like cheekbone and eyebrow arcs. Secondly their facial expression is often accepted as emotionless and severe. Their face is usually pale or bloodless. Males often have a short haircut.

In many cases INTjs are slim. Their stomach is usually placed ahead of the chest giving them their characteristic posture. Their gait is somewhat unsure, wavering slightly. Sometimes it seems like they are not sure where they are going. This becomes more obvious in moments of excitement. Their clothes are not usually very striking. INTjs do not like to attract excessive attention to themselves and most of the time they stick to simple clothes, often wearing the same style and composition for a long time.

I think it's ridiculous and it's one of the reasons I can't take anything socionics writes about seriously. Personality type cannot be determined by physical features. Not to say that physical appearance (such as how they take care of themselves and dress) can't give hints, but genetic structure? Nah. Out of the pictures I've seen, there's a lot of variation between how people look within each personality type. I can't say their descriptions for NTs fit how I look.



Here's their physical description for INTps... how's this for unflattering?
INTps often have a characteristic round-shouldered posture. Their necks are often not as well proportioned as other types and their heads seem to strain forwards. Their eyes have a sorrowful look about them as if they are about to be victimised in some way. Their noses are somewhat aquiline in shape which combined with often flattened cheekbones giving the false impression that their noses are large.

During conversation INTps may project their lower lips forward. INTps often show poor control of their lower jaw, allowing them to hang down. INTps normal facial expressions usually reflect wisdom and great life experience or sadness and victimisation.

[OneBadMother]

XD I wasn't aware that there was a proper proportion for necks.

[Rei]

Penetrating yet vacant look: People always think I'm pissed off even when I'm not.

I get that too!

My ex actually e-mailed me and said to me once "Stop glaring at me." * :o
It made me feel so bad, but I was angry at the same time... funny things happen to INTJs *;D


INTjs have a characteristic ascetic face. There are two reason for this. Firstly the facial structure itself is often reminiscent of ancient portraits because of its angularity and composition of the features, like cheekbone and eyebrow arcs. Secondly their facial expression is often accepted as emotionless and severe. Their face is usually pale or bloodless. Males often have a short haircut.

In many cases INTjs are slim. Their stomach is usually placed ahead of the chest giving them their characteristic posture. Their gait is somewhat unsure, wavering slightly. Sometimes it seems like they are not sure where they are going. This becomes more obvious in moments of excitement. Their clothes are not usually very striking. INTjs do not like to attract excessive attention to themselves and most of the time they stick to simple clothes, often wearing the same style and composition for a long time.
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INTps often have a characteristic round-shouldered posture. Their necks are often not as well proportioned as other types and their heads seem to strain forwards. Their eyes have a sorrowful look about them as if they are about to be victimised in some way. Their noses are somewhat aquiline in shape which combined with often flattened cheekbones giving the false impression that their noses are large.

During conversation INTps may project their lower lips forward. INTps often show poor control of their lower jaw, allowing them to hang down. INTps normal facial expressions usually reflect wisdom and great life experience or sadness and victimisation.

That's almost directly opposite from what I look like. I have high cheekbones, and have trouble buying sunglasses esp since those huge ones came into style :thinking:
Way to prove them wrong =/

[Tarrick]

Fun fun! ;D

I'm a shortish tall with a smallishly large build and I'm thinly fat and have ruddy pale skin. I have darkishly white hair and brownish, bluish green eyes that glow in the dark. And fangs. Yes fangs.

Or for those of you that want what most people perceive:
5'11", just above skinny and just above pale. Dark brown hair, which is keep short, and dark brown eyes eyes. Can't see the fangs, but sometimes I have stubble.
Glare Level 2-5 is generally up, depending on mood.

[Cato the Younger]

Skinny: Not really.

Pale: Yes.

Bloodless: No

Short hair: Yes, and I spike it so it won't ever bug me. I have been known to have long hair though.

Penetrating yet vacant stare: Um, don't think so. I don't think I ever have a vacant look on my face. Though, apparently my face has a naturally unhappy look, and when I'm thinking my eyebrows drop and I look like I'm glaring. I've actually been told to stop glaring.

[deicruxified]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though.
skinny: lean athletic
pale: tan
bloodless: lol
short haired: now yes
penetrating yet vacant look: people's first impression on me (1) shrewed (2) witch (3) bratinella (4) aloof

[Frank]

What do I look like, Im very handsome, or at least my Mom says so.

Build= possibly suggesting INTJ are adverse to either great food are adverse to great exercise= I work out so I’m more on the lean side but Im not considered skinny,. As for food, I eat to live and not live to eat.

Pale= Suggesting that they are adverse to the out doors and are better cramped up in some dark hole reading something or another= a miss for me for I am freshly burnt from a long bike ride, but alas I am a "cracker" who gets very pale in the winter.

Bloodless= That’s what my X says but= to quote love line “I’m a man of great passion” I believe that many INTJ ‘s are very passionate but are very afraid of this, and Im trying to learn to live with it every day.

Short haired= Whaa haa haa ha ha ha ha what does that matter= I keep my hair short to confuse the squares out there.

Penetrating yet vacant stair= hold on let me check in the mirror … … … …= Dang I’m a very scary person with that glassy hollow look in my eyes, why didn’t anybody warn me about this? But honestly I have heard that I can be very intimidating in Hannibal Lector, Rasputin sorta way.

[Max T]

Build- like Lance Armstrong (I wish!) but 6ft and bit thinner.

Pale- not really, tan easily.

Bloodless- nope, just the usual 9 pints in me.

Short-haired- no.3 shaved head for past 8 yrs. Very practical to wash and very low maintenance. Utilitarian.

Penetrating yet vacant stare- yes, just like Homer Simpson's. ;D

[rwyatt365]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though.

skinny; once upon a time, now "well rounded" (LOL)
pale; not even close
bloodless; no one would EVER call me that
short haired; yes, due to advancing baldness (of which, I am not ashamed BTW)
a penetrating yet vacant look ; penetrating, but not vacant

from what I see here, personality type does not equal physical attributes.

[Max T]

from what I see here, personality type does not equal physical attributes.

Yeah, I'd agree personality not = physical attributes.
But focussing on facial features alone, they surely can be more indicative of our personality than a cursory "penetrating yet vacant look" (oxymoron?) would reveal.

E.g. Parents who have lost a child often have 'sadness' written onto their face.
Neurotic types have 'anxious' etched across their forehead and tight mouth.

Just as personality leaks out into day-to-day body language, it is logical that personality can also affect the most malleable part of our body- the face- over decades.
So, at the broadest level, an INTJ (introverted, analytical, creative) is going to look a little different to an ES by 30/40 yrs onwards.
Guess it's not just our personality that would lead to different facial features, but the environment we surround ourselves with (as a result of personality) might also contribute to the difference. I.e. the INTJ facial expression further manifests itself by surrounding ourselves in a different environment to an ES (e.g. ES= more outdoors)- a feedback loop.

;)This could be revealed by INTJ's using significantly different smileys to those at an ESFP forum. ;) [smiley=ugly.gif] [smiley=gorgeous.gif]

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[Max T]

(sorry can't resist).

Just to contradict myself, facial features are dependent on the time of day:

Asleep :sleeping:

Wake up [smiley=skull.gif]

Coffee [smiley=ugly.gif]

Shower [smiley=freak.gif]

Leave house [smiley=gorgeous.gif]

Come home :mad:

Log on to INTJ forum [smiley=smart.gif]

Bed [smiley=ninja.gif] :sleeping:

[Jbmontag]

Skinny: I would say average, I like to keep in shape with Yoga. I also wrestled and have done martial arts most of my live

Pale: Anywhere there is a tattoo...yes. They are expensive and I don't want to damage them

Bloodless: Neh

Short haired: Starting to thin ;D

Penetrating yet vacant look: People do ask me if I'm angry or "What's wrong?" alot

Does this mean all vampires are INTJ?

[quartertone]

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance.
socionics?
INTjs have a characteristic ascetic face. There are two reason for this. Firstly the facial structure itself is often reminiscent of ancient portraits because of its angularity and composition of the features, like cheekbone and eyebrow arcs. Secondly their facial expression is often accepted as emotionless and severe. Their face is usually pale or bloodless. Males often have a short haircut.

In many cases INTjs are slim. Their stomach is usually placed ahead of the chest giving them their characteristic posture. Their gait is somewhat unsure, wavering slightly. Sometimes it seems like they are not sure where they are going. This becomes more obvious in moments of excitement. Their clothes are not usually very striking. INTjs do not like to attract excessive attention to themselves and most of the time they stick to simple clothes, often wearing the same style and composition for a long time.

I think it's ridiculous and it's one of the reasons I can't take anything socionics writes about seriously. Personality type cannot be determined by physical features. Not to say that physical appearance (such as how they take care of themselves and dress) can't give hints, but genetic structure? Nah. Out of the pictures I've seen, there's a lot of variation between how people look within each personality type. I can't say their descriptions for NTs fit how I look.



Here's their physical description for INTps... how's this for unflattering?
INTps often have a characteristic round-shouldered posture. Their necks are often not as well proportioned as other types and their heads seem to strain forwards. Their eyes have a sorrowful look about them as if they are about to be victimised in some way. Their noses are somewhat aquiline in shape which combined with often flattened cheekbones giving the false impression that their noses are large.

During conversation INTps may project their lower lips forward. INTps often show poor control of their lower jaw, allowing them to hang down. INTps normal facial expressions usually reflect wisdom and great life experience or sadness and victimisation.

No, it was not that one. It had pictures of famous "INTjs" and a different physical description than that.

That physical description for personalty thing went out of style in the 1950s. It's not relevant at all, but it's fun.

[24687531]

No, it was not that one. It had pictures of famous "INTjs" and a different physical description than that.

That physical description for personalty thing went out of style in the 1950s. It's not relevant at all, but it's fun.

You probably not seen me (ofcourse). That description of INTjs and some parts of INTp purely describe me. Man having a little knowing about these personality types would 100% spot me! I'm freaking INTj.

[quartertone]

I guess we can only agree on the expression part.

But I see a lot of "athletic." Define athletic.

[Rei]

I guess we can only agree on the expression part.

But I see a lot of "athletic." Define athletic.

Erm... we have lean muscle?
My mother used to tease me for having "manly" arms :thumbsup:

[thephoenix1414]

Skinny- yes, not necessarily athletic but healthy and in shape
Pale- yes
Bloodless- probably, although I am not sure what that actually implies
Short hair- typically, goes along with the efficiency, once grew my hair out to tick my xSTJ mother off
Penetrating yet vacant stare- definitely, people at school call it the "look", every one in my family has it but my intjness has increased its power. one of my more useful tools

[Antares]

:suspicious: Like Lord Voldemort?

I'm pretty compact - small but atheletic -
Pale but not bloodless... the paleness gives me a really bright flush after excercise/alcohol/embarassment :(
Hair really depends on the season and what I felt like giving an impression of during that time.
Penetrating yet vacant? I don't know... I'll have to ask someone I look at a lot ;D

Edit:
Actually, a better example would be vampires...

Really? I am always under the impression that the young TMR would be INTJ and so would Voldemort, but people insist that he is INTP.

Skinny: Average. Not exactly skinny.
Pale: Most of the time
Vacant, penetrating look - Former, yes. Latter, no. I wish.
Hair: A bit over shoulder length, quite short for a girl, I suppose.

Vampires would be better. Voldemort's eyes are far from vacant. They're always filled with lunacy and thirst for blood. His young self might apply more.

[Paul V]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though. descriptive title

Skinny: Nope.
Pale: Yes.
Bloodless: When I wake up or I'm about to go to bed, yes.
Short hair: Not anymore.
Penetrating/vacant look: Penetrating, yes. Vacant: Only when daydreaming.

I agree, vampires fit this description to a T (Distracted, short-haired vampires actually).

[Pinkie]

Skinny: Not really. 'Slim' is the word I would use.
Pale: Yes.
Bloodless: My lips are very pale a lot of the time.
Short hair: Nope. Below shoulder length.
Penetrating/vacant look: People have used both to describe the way I look at them, so yes, I suppose so.

[BadMojo]

Skinny: Absolutely not... More like a 195cm grizzly with a kissable belly
Pale: Yes - Haven't gotten my tattoo yet
Bloodless: Nope
Short hair: Yes, short and messy at the moment
Beard: Yes
Penetrating/vacant look: Sometimes

[INTJoe]

Skinny: I'm athletically fit at 6' 182. But I am the "skinniest" member of my family of 6.
Pale: Yes, I'm Irish-American. I sunburn within 10 minutes without sunblock.
Bloodless: I have blood.
Short-haired: My hair is always "longer" than the average male. It is very thick and full, and it grows fast, so even after I cut it, it grows in quickly, and I'm lazy about haircuts. I used to grow my hair out in the winter, and have had hair 14" long at the longest, while working in a professional office. Not easy to get away with for too long.
Penetrating/Vacant look: Oh yeah. People always think I'm bored, or angry, or depressed, when I'm never bored, angry or depressed as long as my mind is healthy!

[HarleyQuinn]

Skinny: Very.
Pale: Very. If not for a pulse, I could probably be mistaken for a vampire.
Bloodless: I have blood. Usually takes cold or me blushing/being embarrassed for it to appear on my face though.
Short Haired: Yep. I don't like having my hair below my shoulders. I let it "grow out" down to the bottom of my neck last summer and hated it.
Penetrating/Vacant Look: I'm always being accused of glaring or daydreaming unless I actually smile while looking.

[Sheepo]

Skinny: Yes, comes with having a small stomach..?
Pale: Yes. I don't tan, I burn, but no tan.
Bloodless: I blush easily : D...
Short Haired: Yes. I butcher it once it starts to curl at the shoulders...
Penetrating/Vacant Look: I don't know, I don't think i have a "look"... I'd have to ask someone.

[jdc127]

Seems a bit like phrenology to me... And as useful/useless and all other broad generalizations, albeit in very limited circumstances in this instance.

[karen]

I'm chubby but athletic,
yes, pale (but I can't help it! I don't color... probably growing up in Portland, the skin doesn't know what to do with the sun I throw at it)
very long hair
as for the eyes.. I dunno..

[Nightelf]

Skinny: yes
Pale: yes
Bloodless: yes, I blush easily
Short-haired: yes, it's practical, though not very feminine
Penetrating/vacant look: don't know. I'd say severe look.

[Merle]

I was intrigued by this thread... mostly because I think people's perception of my personality is aggravated by the way that I look...
I think that having an INTJ personality is generally considered fairly unfeminine...
I'm 5'11'', and slim... but broad shouldered etc... swimmer's body really...
So, not only do I not fit into a lot of guy's idea of a feminine personality, but I'm taller than most of them too....
I have long curly hair, and keep it that way because it makes me feel more feminine...
I have a long face and sharp, defined eyebrows... which I think make me look pretty intense...
So I was wondering about other female INTJs... whether you try to make yourself physically more feminine to make yourself more acceptable?

[Tsuru]

skinny: Nooooo. I'm fat fat fat. ;(
pale: Very. XD
bloodless: Not sure what that means.
short haired: I've got scraggly beethoven hair. So nope.
penetrating yet vacant look: Sort of? :/

[BlueTopaz]

Skinny: Not really, athletic.
Pale: No. Maybe.... I'm in Florida, what can I say????
Bloodless: Let me check, nope, Lestat is still hanging around the window
Short Haired: No, long hair.
Penetrating/Vacant Look: I don't know, penetrating, probably, vacant, my mother says yes.

[Astra]

So I was wondering about other female INTJs... whether you try to make yourself physically more feminine to make yourself more acceptable?

yep. I am 5'9" and quite broad-shouldered with biggish hands and feet. I would prob have what people call an athletic build if I wasn't so crap at all sports ;). So, I generally make an effort to wear decent clothes and don't like going out of the house without proper make-up on.

OTOH, I don't do fake tan, hair-straightening or fake nails, so by the average woman's standards I probably don't look especially groomed. I think I'm doing ok for an N-type though :).

[Sheepo]

So I was wondering about other female INTJs... whether you try to make yourself physically more feminine to make yourself more acceptable?

I'm not quite sure. I never felt as though I needed to make myself more feminine to feel "accepted."

[Aoiluna]

Skinny:athletic, not really 'skinny' but not 'fat'
Pale: very, only because i take care of my skin. i dont want to look 50 when im 30
Bloodless: last time i checked, no
Short Haired: No, long hair.
Penetrating/Vacant Look: yes to both, but the latter only while daydreaming

[Antares]

So I was wondering about other female INTJs... whether you try to make yourself physically more feminine to make yourself more acceptable?

I don't strive to make myself more 'acceptable'. To me, my appearance represents me and I honestly couldn't give less if they don't like the way I am, but I do dress normally. I dress up on occasions like Homecoming and other balls, and sometimes during summer, I would put on my shell jewellery and wear skirts and flip-flops at school, but most of the time I'm hardly what you'd call 'feminine'.

[Hdier]

Well, I'm technically a low F and not a T, but I'm going to ignore that for now.

Skinny: According to the government, my weight is a health risk for my age. I weigh about 185 lbs. or so, at age 15, and none of it muscle.

Pale: Sometimes if I go into a doctors/school nurses office and I haven't been there before they think that I'm about to faint or something because I'm so pale. It comes from having having naturally pale skin, though not extraordinarily so, and hating the sunlight. And outside in general. I also burn very easily, and my skin won't tan (I once got the nickname 'lobster', though it wore off fast, thank goodness).

Bloodless: How is this different from pale? Obviously you can't literally mean not having blood, unless your talking about dead 'uns.

Short Hair: I used to keep it short. I still would, but I'm a busy person and it's not that important. Though I'll probably get it cut soon because I'm in Swimming now in school.

Penetrating Vacant Look: Yes, if I'm thinking deeply, alone in public, or (especially) both. People who know me (a lucky few) understand that when this happens I'm not actually mad or anything, but they still shouldn't bug me (I get grumpy when someone distracts me from my thoughts).

BTW, just so you all know, I think it is incredibly . . . :searches for 'politically correct' word: . . . silly to think that you can determine someones psychological profile based on physical appearance.

[Ace1337]

Skinny: Yes, as skinny as they get, and tall to make things worse.
Pale: Yes.
Bloodless: Yes.
Short Haired: Yes. It's practical, long hair just gets in the way.
Penetrating/Vacant Look: Yes I have a penetrating look.
all yes :D

[Blacklustre King]

Skinny: No, I’ am athletic. I have a very muscular frame. I try to stay fit.
Pale: Yes, very
Bloodless: You could say that I’ am, philosophically or literally?
Short Haired: Very Long White Blonde Hair
Penetrating/Vacant Look: Yes, people are often averted by my glare for its very imposingness.

[Queen Rat]

Skinny: Quite so.
Pale: To the point of being teased about it by my family and friends.
Bloodless: Somewhat.
Short Hair: Yes. It's almost chin length, but definitely short for being a girl.
Penetrating, Vacant Look: Yep. That's my default expression.

So I was wondering about other female INTJs... whether you try to make yourself physically more feminine to make yourself more acceptable?
I try to dress very feminine for this reason, but also because I like feeling feminine.

[pavman]

This would work better as a poll....

skinny: nope, over-weight, but enough muscle to fool the girls
pale: no, half-Italian makes you generally not pale, unless its winter.
bloodless: ? huh? blush? I used to blush alot when I was a kid. Not sure now, but I do turn red on occasion when something embarrassing pops up.
short haired: sometimes. I am growing it right now, and grew a beard. Before this I shaved it off due to unrequited love.
penetrating yet vacant look: sometimes. I think I space out when thinking, but I tend to *always* look people in the eyes, and it *miffes* me when they can't do the same (or worse, when they blink alot and look around alot... I just want to smack them for not being in the here and now). The best is when I catch a speaker's/professor's/leader's eyes from across the room. I think it creeps them out ;D

Oh yeah, and for a girl, feminine is hot! :o) I've only met one INTJ female (at least I think), and I'm not sure I'd want to be in a relationship with someone who wasn't good at showing her emotions and being "feminine" (trying to get an INTP right now, and she's so annoyingly passive-aggressive with the relationship...frustrates me...sometimes she flirts up a storm to the point where I just want to RAR, other times I have no clue if she's even interested...). :undecided:

[AliciaS2R]

Skinny: nope, curves over muscle, short too
Pale: a little, not too much sun here in NY during the winter, my natural "farmer's tan" is fading away
Bloodless: the nurse seemed to find enough on my annual physical
Short Hair: Shorter than it's ever been, but still past my chin
Penetrating, Vacant Look: depends on whether I am lost in thought or not. I also like to look people in the eye when talking to them, it makes some nervous, maybe it's that penetrating stare while I wait for them to say something of interest... oh wait, that would be my blank vacant stare ;)

[Merle]

Oh yeah, and for a girl, feminine is hot! :o) I've only met one INTJ female (at least I think), and I'm not sure I'd want to be in a relationship with someone who wasn't good at showing her emotions and being "feminine" :

that's what I'm talkin' about...

[Wapiti]

that's what I'm talkin' about...

Hey, don't think like that. There was a day I would have said the same thing. But knowing what I know today, an intj female the way they are is to die for. It just took me a while to get to this point. Just don't tell my wife I said that.

[Uberfuhrer]

Skinny: No. I'm a little overweight and I have a big build.
Pale: Yes, so much so that my acne is really hard to hide completely.
Bloodless: *Cuts wrists* no, I've got blood.
Short hair: Yep. I always shave my head for efficiency.
Penetrating yet vacant stare: Oh yes. I have a very piercing gaze.

[Lout]

Skinny: Yes, but only as a somewhat recent development.

Pale: No. Considering my heritage, I would be surprised if I was.

Bloodless: No. Heartless? Perhaps, but not bloodless.

Short hair: Only because of various social obligations. If it were up to me, I would only get a haircut if it reached unmanageable proportions.

Penetrating yet vacant stare: I've been told that I have a vacant stare because I tend to look off into space quite a lot. I'm not entirely sure if it is piercing.

[Volition]

Skinny- not quite, I am slim built.
Pale- very pale, for my 'ethnicity'.
Bloodless- no, at least when I blush in a massive way.
Short-haired- not yet, it's quite long at the moment as it reaches my waist, but I only kept it that way for religious reasons. I'm going to get it cut quite soon and I'm going for a short style.
Penetrating yet vacant look- I don't really know.

[spiritdetectivegirl]

skinny: No, I'm built like an Frank Frazetta drawn woman.
pale: Yes
bloodless: no
short haired: No
penetrating yet vacant look: Not sure about that one, serious maybe but hm, I'll have to ask about it.

[Windmill]

Skinny - Yes. Well, I'm of a healthy weight, but I'm on the lower end. Am I athletic? No. But I'm not bony.
Pale - Yes I am pretty pale naturally, but I tan OKish. Lets face it, I don't go outside much!
Bloodless - No, I have very soft skin. I look very young, I look more like 13-15 when I'm 17 going on 18 according to most people.
Short haired - No, but I am a girl, most of us have longish hair. When I was younger I had a bowl cut but by 12 I ditched it. I have very fine, soft hair so it can't get too long without getting tatty looking, currently its almost below my shoulders
Penetrating yet vacant look - No, my look is very sleepy. I look constantly sleepy because I inherited squinty eyes.

[Uytuun]

So I was wondering about other female INTJs... whether you try to make yourself physically more feminine to make yourself more acceptable?

I don't know...I feel very feminine, but in a sort of empowered way. The queen kind of femininity, not at all the princess kind. As an N, I can never attain the kind of groomed look some Ss seem to be able to achieve, but I don't really mind. I love stylish, strong, chic clothes with an original twist, but I'm also known to run around in PJs for days on end. I love to dress nicely, but it's an effort. I suspect that for some SJ types it comes much more naturally (they even look put together in sports/sleep gear :p). When I don't have to go out, I just lounge around in comfy clothes with my hair in a messy bun or something. I don't really feel like there is a lack of femininity in my personality, so I don't do anything to compensate. I think our appearance is greatly determined by our self-confidence.

The only make-up I wear is basically mascara to accentuate my dark eyes and lipgloss/stain.

As for the other aspects:

Skinny: well, I'd say slim, with a regal posture/attitude.
Pale: yes, but I tan easily.
Bloodless: Not really...
Short haired: I've had it very short and rather long...at present somewhere in the middle.
Penetrating yet vacant look: I think so, not entirely sure.

[Yaotl]

Im more of a hippie altough I apear skinny I have very long hair and loose fitting clothes that don't fit into my current decade at all. If im in the sun for to long I start to burn almost instantly becoming all sorts of red, thismight be because of a lack o sunlight because of severe covert shizoidism. But none the less I am simply boney because I sometimes forget to eat whilst pondering.

[AgentofGaming]

Skinny: Yes, very. I get to eat as much as I want and not gain weight too!
Pale: Yes, UV rays are evil so I will stay in my room.
Bloodless (devoid of human emotion or feeling): Not really, but I'd have to try real hard to have sympathy if you lost a relative I didn't know.
Short hair: Long hair that passes eyebrows is very itchy, plus it frustrates me when I sleep if it touches my neck.
Penetrating yet vacant stare: Yes, very empty and neutral, sometimes it even looks angry.

So ..... hmm... all yes....

[Merle]

I don't know...I feel very feminine, but in a sort of empowered way. The queen kind of femininity, not at all the princess kind. .

I relate to this lol... Iguess I didn't explain myself too well before...
I'm not unfeminine, and I don't feel unfeminine - unless I'm with short men that I tower over...
But basically, I've never been girly... at 13 I was 5'10", and I grew an inch between then and now... and I've always looked grown up, like a woman not a girl... now I'm in my twenties I feel much more comfortable with the way I look and I guess that's probably to do with me actually looking more my age. But I think that people, especially men, still find me intimidating looking - mostly I suppose because I'm so tall, but also because I'm not pretty-pretty, I'm not going to beat myself down - I know I'm attractive, but in a slightly severe way....
So, I do try to soften myself up by keeping my hair long etc

[Scorne]

Skinny: Average build, just a bit more muscle than most.
Pale: Caucasian male, slight tan on the arms.
Bloodless: No, I do get very red in the face when drinking/laugh though.. Worries me a bit.
Short Hair: I have a military cut or size 1 or 2 shaving all over.
Penetrating yet vacant stare: Constantly, although I was born using forceps and it made my eye pigmentation strange at the sides so it really doubles the stare.

[spiritdetectivegirl]

skinny: No, I'm built like an Frank Frazetta drawn woman.
pale: Yes
bloodless: no
short haired: No
penetrating yet vacant look: Not sure about that one, serious maybe but hm, I'll have to ask about it.

Edit: Bloodless; Yes.

[iMiki]

Skinny: Average but quite athletic (legs).
Pale: I get burned easily so I have a tan. I don't like getting a tan.
Bloodless: I have blood.
Short Hair: I used to. Now, I have mid-length hair.
Penetrating, Vacant Look: My serious expression, I guess.

[lancelot]

I look like an INTJ whose trying to be cool.

[Nyiah]

Skinny: Average, with no athletic abilities.
Pale: Nope, fairly tan.
Bloodless: No, I've got blood...
Short Hair: Nope, few inches past shoulders.
Penetrating, Vacant Look: Hmm, maybe that's my 6 AM look, like "WTF am I doing up at this time?"

[JusVisiting]

I'm not sure. Certain types, in particular INFJ, have a certain look. They are almost always slender, attractive, naturally pale, and have a "penetrating yet vacant stare". The way they hold themselves is different as well, sort of feminine and soft. I've only noticed a pattern with that type.

[desg90]

Skinny: No, I tend towards the hated endomorphic shape and metabolism.

Pale: I inherited Spaniard gens. I'm one of the few people with white skin and green/hazel eyes in my family. Most are brown-skinned with black eyebrows.

Bloodless: I wish. When I was very little adults teased me because of my tomato-red cheeks.

Short haired: No, but that's mainly because my pushy mother orders me to cut it whenever it gets below my eyebrows. (Fortunately, that's a common problem for people my age). Maybe I'll let it grow longer once I get in a more pleasant shape. Long hair looks better on lslim people, you know.

Penetrating yet vacant look: If someone manages to look me in the eye... yes. I usually tend to avoid the eyes of others and having glasses covering my eyes doesn't help either. People tend to feel uncomfortable after looking at my eyes for a while, so...

[Alida]

well, I'm not technically INTJ, but fwiw:

Skinny: no
Pale: medium
Bloodless: how is this different from the above? (I'm a redhead, so yes, I turn very red when working out; people ask if I'm ok)
Short Haired: no. for the sake of appearance; short hair would make my face look round
Penetrating/Vacant Look: when I'm bored or uncomfortable.

[True Rune]

Skinny: Yes, I have a fast metabolism.. I'm not super muscular, but it's not like nothings there.
Pale: I tan kind of easily, so not really.
Bloodless: In the emotional sense, I can be. In the psychical sense, I don't know.
Short Haired: Yes.
Penetrating/Vacant Look: I don't know, people have never told me about my gaze.. but I wouldn't be surprised if I do..

[PRBori]

hmm..

Height 5'4
Eyes Brown
Broad Shoulders, Athletic Legs
Hair: Curly,kinky, long brown hair
Body: not too skinny, not to fat... somewhere in between just right
Skin Color: It depends, light cream on winter, medium chocolate in summer.
Bloodless: No, as someone mention before I'm a robot... so there is plenty of oil to share
Facial: small fluffy lips, almond shape eyes... not sure how to describe the rest

I think that pretty much describes me... Body is not perfect after two kids... but I'm certainly working on getting back to what I used to be 36'/26'/36'... not far from it, I shall reach it before the end of the year since is one of my goals this year.

OK, so that's enough said about me..

[v2B2]

socionics?


I think it's ridiculous and it's one of the reasons I can't take anything socionics writes about seriously. Personality type cannot be determined by physical features. Not to say that physical appearance (such as how they take care of themselves and dress) can't give hints, but genetic structure? Nah. Out of the pictures I've seen, there's a lot of variation between how people look within each personality type. I can't say their descriptions for NTs fit how I look.

Here's their physical description for INTps... how's this for unflattering?
INTps often have a characteristic round-shouldered posture. Their necks are often not as well proportioned as other types and their heads seem to strain forwards. Their eyes have a sorrowful look about them as if they are about to be victimised in some way. Their noses are somewhat aquiline in shape which combined with often flattened cheekbones giving the false impression that their noses are large.

During conversation INTps may project their lower lips forward. INTps often show poor control of their lower jaw, allowing them to hang down. INTps normal facial expressions usually reflect wisdom and great life experience or sadness and victimisation.


LOL :laugh: Didn't know there is such a thing as socionics!!!

From observation, INT- people might not be your latest fashion getters, but we have our own style that we are comfortable with... Though a hard-core INTP's dress sense is a dead giveaway sometimes ;D INTJ's tend to fare somewhat better...

That blank vacant look? Yeah, most agree we do have that sometimes, but that is only because we are thinking (CPU running at full capacity) or find that what is happening is nothing worth noting (screen-saver mode)...

But the socionics thing, if that is my job, I think a clairvoyant do the same thing!

[ChfMojoRising]

Skinny: yes, for a long time, but a sedentary life-style has made me fill out to a more healthy look in recent.

Pale: For my skin color, I guess I am. I'm a black/white mix~ all of your strengths, none of your weaknesses!

Bloodless: I can get quite red in the face under the right circumstances. (Over-heated CPU in the head.. or a kernel panic lol)

Short hair: yes, please.

Vacant stare: some times, yes. Other times it's more of a fiery aggressive look. There were many times people would stop and ask who I was going to beat up, when I was just, say, headed to the store for bread @_@

Do ya think INTJ's have a unique modes of dress?
I'm a jeans + any kind of shirt guy~ but uniquely I wear a trench coat (sometimes tied around my waist, hanging like a kilt... not a skirt) have a thin pair of gloves, and a newsie cap. (coat, gloves and hat are all black, cloth)

[v2B2]

Do ya think INTJ's have a unique modes of dress?
I'm a jeans + any kind of shirt guy~ but uniquely I wear a trench coat (sometimes tied around my waist, hanging like a kilt... not a skirt) have a thin pair of gloves, and a newsie cap. (coat, gloves and hat are all black, cloth)

Not exactly dress code, but I find INTJs dress up as they are for their unique reasons (often for comfort and functionality, or for a sense of their own character), whereas hard-core INTPs don't border :embarassed:

[Serket]

Skinny: Work in progress
Pale: very
Bloodless: almost
Short hair: no, long

[selimut]

i'm pretty thin and fit.
i'm a girl but prefer short hair (i think it's more practical).
tanned.
penetrating yet vacant look??

[thod]

Skinny: Nope. 6'4"/6'5" 220 lbs. Built like a rugby/American football player (and was). Tending to gain fat in middle age, any exercise turns it back to muscle.
Pale: Blond haired, blued eyed. Traveling in Europe everyone starts talking to me in German. Thus pale skinned.
Bloodless: Plenty of blood, but am not red skinned.
Short Hair: Nope, medium.
Penetrating yet vacant stare: Yep, always staring off into the distance.

I look like the stereotype viking. Which leads many people to put me into the category of 'dumb thug'. It has its advantages too when dealing with the SJ's.

[spittingvenom]

skinny: nope...short (5' flat)....and voluptous (T and A) :thumbsup:
pale: nope...soy latina (mexicana y italiana)
bloodless: nope...a bit ruddy
Penetrating vacant stare: maybe....I tend to wear my general annoyance on my face though...so the vacant, penetrating stare often veers to eye rolling and exasperation.

[malefide]

Skinny: I'm thin...not really skinny, though.
Pale: Yes. Very.
Bloodless: Often...but you can see my veins through my skin because it's so transluscent, so you can see that I have blood. :P
Short haired: Not really. It's at shoulder-length or thereabouts, which is a lot shorter than it used to be. I need to cut it more.
"Penetrating yet vacant look": Sometimes, yeah. People have said "intense yet blank".

[ceg6]

Skinny: :laugh: No. Will always be a curvy kind of girl. I do work out 6 days a week or so.
Pale: I have dark brown hair and brown eyes. Maybe a little in winter but I tan easily.
Bloodless: No
Short hair: No it's past my shoulders.
Penetrating yet vacant stare: Occasionally.

[sriv]

What we look like has nothing to do with MBTI. It only describes personality. Maybe we work out a little less than other types but trying to find a trend in skin color differences is ridiculous.

[Uberfuhrer]

I am a socionics ENTp-Ti subtype. I actually find the theory interesting in how a person's eyes can reflect their personality. Basically, socionics is where to look when you notice the trend of INFPs having deep and dreamy eyes -- and more than any other type, INFPs almost always look dreamy. In general, the NF types in socionics have a dreamy, melancholy look in their eyes, although ENFps tend to have a crafty look in their eyes. And the piercing gaze often attributed to the INTJ is more related to the ENTp in socionics.

Naturally, socionics and MBTI won't always match, but it's still a really fascinating perspective, and in many ways, socionics is more related to Jungian theory than modern MBTI theory.

EDIT: But if it's any consolation, MBTI and Keirsey type theory don't always match, either.

[Lagawrd]

6 feet
169 LBS
Fit
I am tanned
Pony tail goes down to my upper back
Black jeans, sweater or a no-logo T shirt. Sometimes a heavy jacket when it is cold. For some reason I do not like the idea of short unless I am in the ring.

[vad1981]

Average height (5'9"), a little chubby, generally considered good looking. Bloodless? only during the winter when I dont see much sunlight...vacant/staring look - I guess so...I have an unwanted knack for freaking out women and police officers with my look...Let's just say my smile muscles are not the strongest part of my body.

[rvi]

Penetrating yet vacant look: People always think I'm pissed off even when I'm not.

I thought I was the only one. I am usually very placid and neutral, but people say their first impression of me, if I walk by and don't talk, is that I will rip their face off because I'm mad. I always laugh because I'm kind of the opposite.

[OddFactor]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though. descriptive title

Skinny: Yes, very, but athletic.
Pale: No.
Bloodless: No.
Short haired: Nope, hair is below my Adam's apple.
Penetrating yet vacant look: From time to time. I've learned to control it.

[Cuivienen]

Skinny: No, I`m pretty average
Pale: average, I tan fairly quickly even though I`m usually not outside much.
Bloodless: No
Short haired: No, I`ve always had long(er) hair (shoulder length at least)
Penetrating yet vacant look: Yes, pretty much, I usually have an unfocused-yet-lost-in-thought look. Paired with blue eyes the look is occasionally pretty intense.

[Latte]

Skinny: Athletic.
Pale: No, but yes, sort of. If I wasn't merely 50% genetically nordic, I'd be extremely pale, I guess.
Bloodless: Nah.
Short hair: Varies, middle ground atm I guess.
Beard: No.
Penetrating/vacant look: vacant, absent while thinking (literally shutting off visual feed to consciousness). Penetrating when looking at people.


I think they are taking it too far with the specifications on looks and such. There may be lifestyle tendencies more likely in INT people due to preferences emerging from way of thinking than in people of other 3 letter combos leading to a higher rate of INT people that look somewhat like the description than people of other 3 letter combos, yet I see no reason to believe there would be any direct correlation (there never is).

[schwartzie]

The whole pale skin, short hair, etc. characterization sounds ethnocentric and antiquated.

But, interestingly, a friend who proctors IQ tests to bright people, and has for many years, says she can peg within 10 or 15 points where people will end up, based on their eyes when she first meets them. She insists that it's pretty easy to see if there's "someone home in there."

[Motor Jax]

Skinny: no, 5'8", 185-190lbs and barrel-chested

Pale: olive to dark complexion

Bloodless: only when the vampires come out, or i donate to the Red Cross

Short hair: military high-n-tight

Beard: yes, shaved off of course... but there is always that potential

Penetrating/vacant look: not vacant, but always moving, observing, and studying people and i never miss anything. they can be penetrating though, especially when i am studying someone that seems to display numinous behavior or is just someone i find either interesting or engaging

[Aronnax]

With the exception of short hair and simple clothes that socionics description sounds nothing like me.

I'm 5'10" 175 lbs with brown hair and eyes. I have a barrel chest with a narrow waist and relatively short legs for my height (my pants size is 31-30). I keep my hair around 2" long (it's the clipper extension I use when it's time to cut it) and I'm tan.

[catd]

skinny: Yes
pale: No
bloodless: No
short haired: No, long thick hair
penetrating look: Yes
vacant look: Never

[searcher]

I suppose I'm skinny, though I really have more of an hourglass shape.*cringes at description*
pale - no way. Tan. Permanant tan.
What the hell does bloodless mean anyway? I'm not bloodless - I bleed when i get cut just like anyone else. Just ask my flatmate.
I don't have short hair. I have fine hair. not good short. Really wispy. And turning from white blonde to dark brown over the years. Naturally.
I do not have a sorrowful look to my eyes. I have a...weird look.....They change colour.
About the "stomach before chest" thing. That is physically impossible with my proportions.

[iuniperus]

If all INs are like me, they're thin because they frequently forget to eat regular meals. Eating is more of a nuisance to me than a pleasure.

Other than that, I don't think skin colour has any relevance unless it's because we're usually indoors and don't get much sun. I'm pretty pale.

Frail, delicate, and graceful (which I don't see) are a few adjectives people have used to define how I look.

[Chimerical]

skinny Yeah, but I'm in shape
pale- No, I'm black.
bloodless- No
short haired-yes, most of the time
penetrating yet vacant look- Yes

[IgnoranceIsKind]

skinny: yes, but with an atheletic built because of track and rugby trainings.
pale: my classmates have confirmed this, so yes.
bloodless: this too, along with being pale.
short haired: yeap, always. its much neater if you ask me, and it also complements my jawline.
penetrating look: Yes (only because it sounds sexy)

[quest ion]

skinny: Not really.
pale: yes but I'm trying to get a decent tan
bloodless: no
short haired: For most of my teenage years yes. It's slightly beyond shoulder- length now.
penetrating yet vacant look: Yes. All the time. Funny thing is sometimes.. on the train, I try to lift my eyebrows a bit to loosen up my expression. HAHA.

[TheReal]

6'3" - 178 lbs
pale - I tan easy and never have white-white skin
bloodless: no, but I am more likely to be cold when the temperature is normal for other people. (i hate being cold, it's like a mental prison)
Short haired - 1.5 inches long and I'm dieing to get it cut.
Penetrating look: I never asked, but i feel my look is too strong to look at people for a whole 5 seconds. So I look for a second and look away, and keep a smile on my face.
I consider myself attractive.

[hongi]

Skinny: no, 5'9", 180 lb

Pale: not a chance - tan easily - generally olive/dark complexion

Bloodless: no way

Short hair: short right now - long and the short of it is . . . I change it as my mood fits

Beard/mustache: not in the last year . . . 16 years before yes . . . next winter maybe

Penetrating/vacant look: yes . . . sometimes

[44sunsets]

I've found that people of the same gender, type and race will tend to share similar facial characteristics. Even before I got to know them, I could pick out the INTJ women because of how they look.

I haven't had a chance to test this with INFJs yet, as I have yet to meet more than one other INFJ in real life...

[Mozzes]

I'm not "skinny" by a long shot. 230lbs at 5'11". I started lifting weights at 16 (8 years ago) though I haven't been as consistent as I'd like. I've been tested at around 15% body fat, so I'm not extremely lean but I'm not obese either. I've started to rock climb, though, so I'm trying to drop down to 190lbs or so.

I'm also definitely not pale. I tend to tan well and I usually spend at least a few hours per day in the sun from spring through fall playing basketball, baseball, hiking, or something of the sort.

I do, however, keep my hair short.

[beverly penn]

Skinny: lean, I'd say

Pale: not really

Bloodless: no

Short hair: pretty short

Penetrating/vacant look: It seems like an interesting pattern is forming. I've been bothered about the "severe" look my entire life, but I don't even notice I'm doing it. A girl I met once called it my "default" setting.

[eastman]

I've been skinny throughout my life. It fascinates me that I don't gain that much weight.

[schwartzie]

I've found that people of the same gender, type and race will tend to share similar facial characteristics. Even before I got to know them, I could pick out the INTJ women because of how they look.

um...forgive the skepticism, but yes, eyes are a give-away. If you are referring to anything other than the eyes...well... what do INTJ women of north european ancestry look like?

[Mariko]

I am as pale as my Irish Mother- sure wish I could tan like my Japanese Father but, no luck!

Skinny- No I have never been skinny but I am not fat, well fat in all the right places...
I am short 5"1'
Emotionless expression yea unless I am upset

[Beery Swine]

Buzzed brown hair with no guard so it's short as that machine can get it, permanent 2-day shadow, overweight, bulky/broad shoulders and I tend to burst into flames when in direct sunlight. A few years ago I would alternate between buzzed, punk spikes and long hair. Also my brow is usually furrowed in an introspective thinking visage. So, to review:

Skinny -
Pale +
Bloodless ? possibly +
Short hair +
Penetrating look ? possibly +
Vacant look ?

Boy, that really wasn't very helpful at all, was it? Too iffy.

[VendettaNZ]

skinny yes-although athletic
pale-very
bloodless- I have very bad circulation, so purple hands and blush very easily
short haired-yup
penetrating yet vacant look- aparently I look very vacant and stare away when thinking

[Functianalyst]

I'm sure this has probably been done before, but I'm new.

I was at this site that seemed to be determining logical intuitive introverts only by their appearance. They seemed to all be skinny, pale, bloodless, short haired and had a penetrating yet vacant look on their face. (Samuel Beckett and Larry king). I dont know if that only applies to men, though. descriptive titleBut you're referring to Socionics, not MBTI. Besides can someone who claims INTj (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) under one system be the same under the other when they reverse the functions for introverts? I would think that per Jung, you are going to dominate with the same function under either system, thus INTJs would be INTp's (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) under Socionics.

[Mercury]

Skinny: No. I am quite round and curvy. Maybe slender in non-curvy areas.

Pale: No, I have dark brown skin.

Bloodless: No. I do have mild circulation problem though LOL.

Short hair: No. I can sit on my hair, it's very long.

Penetrating/vacant look: Yes, my eyes are often described as penetrating or vacant. It depends. When I'm thinking about too many things at once I tend to get the 'vacant' or absent-minded look. When I'm focusing on someone or thinking about just a few things I get the penetrating look.

[Functianalyst]

Again taking into consideration that Socionics reverses the functions for introverts, I would be considered a LSI (ISTj) in that system (or maybe something completely different). ISTjs often have a very firm, solid figure, especially males. They keep their feet rooted to the ground giving the impression that they are sturdy and secure. Their heads are firmly fixed squarely to their shoulders and are practically immovable. Their necks appear to be inflexible so when they turn their head their shoulders usually follow. Their facial expressions are somewhat unemotional and show great concentration.That's true to some extent, however I think my gait is very bouncy when I walk or so I have been told by others.Male ISTjs often wear a moustache. If they do not have one then there probably is a logical reason for it, as in general they all agree that a moustache is a good idea. Their clothes are often clean, ironed and tidy. They follow strict styles, never being too flashy or extravagant. It is as if military uniforms were designed specifically for ISTjs. They take great care of their appearance and may criticise people who do not.Definitely true about the mustache for me. In fact I don't think that I have cut it more than twice in many years. I do like my clothes clean and tidy, but I usually dress functionally so I wear alot of loose fitting clothes and polo type shirts. I don't wear them now, but during my college days I wore surgery wear and army dungarees.Many ISTjs find it quite easy to interact with strangers and considering that they are introverts can feel quite close to someone even after a relatively short amount of contact. They often have a large compendium of jokes and anecdotes. Males often use this arsenal to charm females, usually behaving very gallantly, successfully playing role of the gentleman. They are often the life and soul of the party. They enjoy singing with little more than a guitar for accompaniment and often in a romantic style.All true and yes people who do not know me would believe that I am extraverted. I could go on and on, but this does seem to fit me.

As stated, regardless of what they call it, I Ti-Se. I would suspect that as been stated in other threads that the average INTJ does not Ti-Ne, instead they Ni-Te (making them ILI-INTp in Socionics). This is the definition of that type:INTps often have a characteristic round-shouldered posture. Their necks are often not as well proportioned as other types and their heads seem to strain forwards. Their eyes have a sorrowful look about them as if they are about to be victimised in some way. Their noses are somewhat aquiline in shape which combined with often flattened cheekbones giving the false impression that their noses are large.

During conversation INTps may project their lower lips forward. INTps often show poor control of their lower jaw, allowing them to hang down. INTps normal facial expressions usually reflect wisdom and great life experience or sadness and victimisation. Although INTps are introverts, some of them may behave in a very extroverted manner.

INTps with more developed aesthetic taste are neat and tidy. They look after their clothes which they know well how to compose and combine. When they interact with others they are softly spoken and unobtrusive, leaving others the impression that they are intelligent and educated. When asking someone for something, they usually do it in such a way as to rarely be denied.

INTps with less developed aesthetic taste usually look like they are not bothered about their appearance. Their clothes are often old and worn and their footwear may be in a bad condition. When interacting with others they may be very active, pushy and sometimes even aggressive. They often do not obey the norms of politeness and may sometime be rough and vulgar, however this behaviour usually does not last a long time.

When INTps speak publicly they habitually adopt a slow, monotone speech pattern. This may have a sleep inducing hypnotic effect on their audience. INTps are good at noticing contradictions in theories or opinions and can focus others attention to this. They are able to predict short term forthcoming events in both visual and associative forms. Through observation and their own experiences INTps can create a precise model of others behaviour allowing INTps to predict peoples next moves. They often amaze and interest people with this quality.

INTps are very sceptical to others who are undertaking new beginnings. They are able to pour cold water on others burning enthusiasm. They try to keep others from being passionate as they consider strong emotions to be harmful. INTps also look after their health and can be very captious in these matters. For example, they may wash their hands more often than others do. They pay a lot attention to hygiene and sanitation.

INTps are often active in business and commercial matters. They have good abilities to quickly calculate profit. Usually they are relaxed and only undertake projects that show considerable return and profit. They are not afraid to run big businesses. Usually INTps are very economical. They do not like to make presents or lend money to others. Because of this quality they usually try to appear poorer than they actually are. However when it comes to spending money on themselves, they can be very generous.

INTps usually work slowly, paying a lot of attention to detail. In their activities they show a strict logic, that can sometimes become very pedantic and scrupulous. INTps may check that all home appliances are off many times before leaving.

[nonentropic]

(focus on the intj traits of eccentricity-strong individualism & self determination/self determining...my own unique worldview)

probably too intense, athletic-lean-fit-strong strengthwise-masculine, focussed outwardly and/or inwardly or obviously a combo of both, practical, like the colors green-blue-black-brown-white and tans-masculine versions-not into pastels for me/on me at all, reserved-removed-quiet often and so on.... 6' 1" 185 lbs (basically)

[phantasma]

I'd say I'm fairly INTP. I'm a fairly lean 5'8'' girl so I'm usually awkwardly tall for my age and gender, longish dark blonde hair, I'm fairly pale, piercing, somewhat sarcastic stare, vacant look on my face most of the time, I usually wear dark colors, somewhat edgy fashion statement. Let's just say I look different and detached by definition. INTP all the way.