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There seems to be a lot of smart people on the forum. How does your IQ compare to the populous?
thegnat
10-23-2007, 07:15 PM
You set me up so well....I had to say Einstein sucks.
However in reality, I'd rate myself as "superior forum member" and every once in awhile "near genius".
As someone once told me "You have to be a genius to be a chemistry major." And chemistry major I am....
toonia
10-23-2007, 07:44 PM
(I didn't vote yet) For me it depends on the intellectual skill. I have made my mark in certain areas, but realize my weakness in other areas. I'm above average in most things, except mechanical reasoning. There I'm right at the 50 percentile supposedly, but may be lower. In language skills I'd say above average, but nothing to write home about. I was stronger in science and math, but would not consider myself that rare in potential in those areas, but could have earned all the degrees if I had chosen that path. I wanted to study astronomy, and it is my path not taken. I have moments of intense nostalgia wishing I understood more.
I do know myself to have a unique gift and drive when dealing in the subjective systems of the arts and psychology. Enough to have potential to make a larger scale contribution if I can remain focused and make the most of the momentum I have gained so far. The most intelligent people I have worked with tend to have a higher opinion of my skill, than I initially do. My biggest issue now is to pull out of a depressive state and maintain my drive to contribute when there isn't much financial stability for the years of training and investment. I have to shake that temporal failure issue and focus on what I can contribute.
qwerty
10-23-2007, 07:45 PM
:)
I'm going with average population here.
It's a tightly held belief of mine that if you think you know too much then you don't have a clue, (no offense intended for anyone else), it's mainly a tool I use for myself.
Stopharian
10-23-2007, 07:54 PM
dont forget....Einstein was an INTP
qwerty
10-23-2007, 08:23 PM
dont forget....Einstein was an INTP
Well we got Stephen Hawking and Isaac Newton (Source (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.)).
And myself I'd class Kurt Godel as intj rather than intp.
toonia
10-23-2007, 09:32 PM
:)
I'm going with average population here.
It's a tightly held belief of mine that if you think you know too much then you don't have a clue, (no offense intended for anyone else), it's mainly a tool I use for myself.
Here's an average smooch for you. :-*
Actually I appreciate those with a sense of what is beyond their personal knowledge. People who can't see past what they appear to know have little chance for growth. It's like driving with the headlights off.
thegnat
10-23-2007, 10:07 PM
:)
I'm going with average population here.
It's a tightly held belief of mine that if you think you know too much then you don't have a clue, (no offense intended for anyone else), it's mainly a tool I use for myself.
Honestly and truthfully people who think they're geniuses drive me up the frickin wall - the set up was just too good to take. Though I know I'm probably above average. My grades in high school reflected that (top 5% of a very academically strong high school and big class) and the fact that I'm a chemistry major in my third year reflects that.
Someone really did tell me that though. I'll take it. hehe
OneBadMother
10-23-2007, 11:59 PM
If you mean above average in average forum, definitely. Here I'm not so sure.
Chainsaw Dundee
10-24-2007, 02:55 AM
I'd say above average populous, but I think thats a modest way to put it.
Max T
10-24-2007, 06:53 AM
:)
I'm going with average population here.
It's a tightly held belief of mine that if you think you know too much then you don't have a clue, (no offense intended for anyone else), it's mainly a tool I use for myself.
Agree- overconfidence in our capabilities is a very common phenomenon- hence my rantings on the 'arrogance' thread.
The more I learn, the less I realise I know and the more I have to read... only to then forget some of what's read! :o
StJimmy
10-24-2007, 08:06 PM
top 5% easily.
deicruxified
10-24-2007, 10:17 PM
can't tell i despise written exams measuring my intellect... but i'm part of upper 25% of the university population. definitely i'm smarter than paris hilton.
QuickSilver
10-25-2007, 03:38 AM
There seems to be a lot of smart people on the forum. How does your IQ compare to the populous?
Pretensions to modesty aside, I chose "average populous" because while it is wonderful to be cognizant and confident of one's abilities, I'm beginning to question the validity of the popular concept of IQ.
Consider the Quarter Mile "drag strips" on which cars are raced, and imagine that we're comparing differing cars without actually racing them. *Certainly in theory a bigger engine, a stronger transmission, stickier tires or a more alert driver may be factors for success, perhaps even prerequisites. *Despite this, even if we can identify one or several superior components on a given vehicle, nothing is guaranteed because we cannot observe or truly test all of the parts by disassembling the vehicle to check down to the smallest subatomic bits (at least not if we're using this analogy to talk about people).
While drag racing defines victory in terms of raw speed, how do we define success in human terms? *Do we think that money is a quantifiable proxy for success, so that "She who dies with the most toys wins"? *Perhaps acquisition of the most desirable mate? *Most/best progeny? *Total units of individual happiness experienced or societal utility generated (and how do we quantify those)?
Without these kinds of clear cut definitions as to what we are measuring and why, there isn't any evidence that anyone should be considered somehow superior. *Unusual perhaps, but like any other works of engineering we are all exercises in compromise. *Perhaps one of us learns more rapidly and yet quickly tires of routine tasks, while another is highly driven but becomes apoplectic when faced with a seemingly insurmountable obstacle, while another can plod though anything yet is incurably cautious; the permutations go on and on...
Consider the fact that the world offers different roles which must be fulfilled by different types people if extant systems are to function optimally. *To hearken back to the car analogy, one may drive to the grocery store in one's $100,000 Porsche but when one pulls a loaf of bread off of the shelf one may be sure that the loaf got to the store in a $100,000 Mack Truck or Peterbuilt, etc.
If meriting high scores on an IQ test is something worth celebrating, it must be a celebration of gratitude for having the ability to understand and appreciate the inherent dignity of those around us to whose roles and special value in the world we might otherwise be blind.
-QuickSilver
logan235711
10-25-2007, 03:51 AM
don't really believe in IQ per-se
blackout
10-25-2007, 04:17 AM
Tested by the Air Force and by a former employer using a Wonderlic. Both were in the 130-135 range, so that is near genius.
ACT - 30
SAT (old system) - 1310
ASVAB - 99
I was tested as a kid for the "gifted program" and started it in first grade, but I dont know/can't remember what the result was.
fripping
10-25-2007, 05:19 AM
high normal, anywhere from 120-130. at least 2 steps from genius. in any case, it almost certainly will never be used for any great thing, but only selfishly for my own hedonistic enjoyment. it's hard not to troll this forum. you people are ok, but there's too many of you in one place. :lovestruck:
probably about average for this forum +/- 7.536 points using significant figures.
thegnat
10-25-2007, 02:52 PM
high normal, anywhere from 120-130. at least 2 steps from genius. in any case, it almost certainly will never be used for any great thing, but only selfishly for my own hedonistic enjoyment. it's hard not to troll this forum. you people are ok, but there's too many of you in one place. :lovestruck:
probably about average for this forum +/- 7.536 points using significant figures.
How'd you get your stats and sig figs?
Not to be nit-picky or anything - just curious...
Santana28
10-25-2007, 03:14 PM
dont forget....Einstein was an INTP
INTJ with strong INTP leanings here... whats funny about this is that i also share Einstein's astrological profile (Pisces Sag Sag). Perhaps i should read up on him sometime.
Santana28
10-25-2007, 03:18 PM
I supposedly have a 167 IQ, but i think the test itself is skewed severely due to my seemingly limitless abstract reasoning skills. I complete suck in other areas... and it certainly doesn't help me in day to day life... in fact... i'm not sure what hampers me more. The fact that i am an INTJ, or the fact that i can process information faster and on a much broader scope than 95% of the people i deal with on a day to day basis.
fripping
10-25-2007, 05:06 PM
high normal, anywhere from 120-130. at least 2 steps from genius. in any case, it almost certainly will never be used for any great thing, but only selfishly for my own hedonistic enjoyment. it's hard not to troll this forum. you people are ok, but there's too many of you in one place. :lovestruck:
probably about average for this forum +/- 7.536 points using significant figures.
How'd you get your stats and sig figs?
Not to be nit-picky or anything - just curious...
i got the stats by taking a core sample of my torso and counting my tree rings. as for the significant figures, well, let me break it down for you- 7 is a lucky number. 5 is half of ten. 3 is the number of the holy trinity. 6 is just there for kicks. put them together and you get 7.536, voila! science and math and shit!
no, really, that whole post was made up out of educated guesses. that's what intps do. also i was kind of drunk and wanted to see if anybody would take the bait. now that i'm sober, i feel a little guilty for taking advantage.
I scored 143 in my IQ test in my early schoolings. Havent been tested officially since so wouldn't know what my current score would be. I have an 'obsession' with mathematics and physics, but personnally I've always considered that knowledge/intelligence to be relative.
Personnally I agree with Asimov's "What is Intelligence?" passage.
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To everyone, this poll was a trick question. It was all about modesty and most of you failed miserably.
Just kidding. ;)
If you mean above average in average forum, definitely. Here I'm not so sure.
No I meant this forum.
On a forum where nobody really knows who am i will say i test in the genius range. I can't really do it any where else with out fearing being stoned by the public for it. It seems everybody here is smart, so there shouldn't be any bad feelings.
On another note but related. Do any of you have over-excitabilties due to your level of intelligence. I would like to get your opinions on the topic.
If you need more info let me know and i will give you a link to the theory sites.
OFL *;D
On a forum where nobody really knows who am i will say i test in the genius range. I can't really do it any where else with out fearing being stoned by the public for it. It seems everybody here is smart, so there shouldn't be any bad feelings.
On another note but related. Do any of you have over-excitabilties due to your level of intelligence. I would like to get your opinions on the topic.
If you need more info let me know and i will give you a link to the theory sites.
OFL *;D
Sorry, I don't do feelings, but nice to have you on board anyway.
I don't even know what the word "excitabilties" means so I guess I don't qualify. You can always start a thread on the topic if you think its worthwhile.
thegnat
10-26-2007, 11:20 AM
no, really, that whole post was made up out of educated guesses. that's what intps do. also i was kind of drunk and wanted to see if anybody would take the bait. now that i'm sober, i feel a little guilty for taking advantage.
Awesome logic ;D I think that's the best way to deal with sig figs.
qwerty
10-26-2007, 09:53 PM
On a forum where nobody really knows who am i will say i test in the genius range. I can't really do it any where else with out fearing being stoned by the public for it. It seems everybody here is smart, so there shouldn't be any bad feelings.
On another note but related. Do any of you have over-excitabilties due to your level of intelligence. I would like to get your opinions on the topic.
If you need more info let me know and i will give you a link to the theory sites.
OFL ;D
I guess you're asking about a passionate reaction to a subject? I've been told that my eyes light up and I exude energy when boolean sat solving comes up :).
Over-excitabilities are things that affect us physically and mentally, and are connected to varying levels of intelligence. Here is a link to the theory description.
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Wow that is some fascinating stuff, be sure the create a thread on the subject.
As for your original question:
On another note but related. Do any of you have over-excitabilties due to your level of intelligence. I would like to get your opinions on the topic.
I'm not sure to what extend it is related to intelligence but I do have some quirks yes. I really dislike walking through the city by myself and noticing that people are just watching each other. Especially when walking past people sitting on terasses I really feel "watched". This triggers my senses so much and makes me feel uncomfortable. In my mind I know it is ridiculous to feel this way but alas I still do. After many years of strolling through cities I do have become more comfortable with it.
I do think the mind is a great tool for overcoming these quirks. I don't think that avoiding those awkward moments is necessarily good. You need to confront it in order to understand and deal with it.
-- Years ago I had a talk with a friend and we both agreed on the same thing: "I wish I was dumb, life would be so much easier".
fripping
10-29-2007, 10:04 AM
note to self- most intjs love the concept of significant figures itself to pieces, but even those who don't call them "sig figs". even my old chemistry teacher did it. . .
Lumbering Jack
10-29-2007, 11:37 AM
I've never taken an IQ test. Always wanted to, but don't they cost a heap of money? As a middle-schooler, I took a test for the gifted and talented program. I wasn't excepted though. I seem to remember something about arranging blocks to form shapes.
niffer
11-17-2007, 08:36 PM
When I was in elementary school I was in the "gifted program", and when they tested me I ended up with an IQ of approx. 130, I think. And a few years ago I was tested again and my IQ was 150. It's probably gone down since then though, lol!
I don't find IQ very relevant/meaningful.
TheLoneINTJ
11-18-2007, 05:31 AM
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Tarrick
11-18-2007, 05:37 AM
Lone, you hurt my eyes.
And you double posted.
/Smack
vulcan
11-18-2007, 07:14 AM
i b jus plane dum
I don't agree with IQ tests as all as they prove is that you do "tricks quickly".
IQ can test mental agility and it can test memory retention and exposure to information BUT SO WHAT.
True genius intellect is the ability to conceive of whole new observations, which requires the ability to have a reasonable amount of IQ as measured by traditional measurements (say +130) and then the creativity and intuition to connect massive numbers of variables in unique ways until UREAKA. Effectively a "Genius" has a fantastic subconscious that churns shapes/colors/ideas/variables and a whole host of "information" and then throws them into consciousness as a revelation. (That’s my theory).
American Quest 1983
11-19-2007, 12:50 AM
I took the wonderlic test and I scored a 32, which is a 124 IQ. I also scored above average when I was younger, but I forgot the score. At the end of the day, it is not that big of a deal. You have to develop different forms of intelligence to compete and be successful in this world.
stasis
11-19-2007, 09:35 AM
Average populous.
No matter what I'd like to think, I have no evidence to the contrary.
Figmentum
11-19-2007, 06:40 PM
I don't know what the numbers mean, but the last IQ test I had (A year ago?), I scored 146.
godshadowdeath
11-21-2007, 01:03 AM
18 years old
187 iq (got bored half way through and left the testing facility)
einstien aint got nothin on me.
TheLoneINTJ
11-21-2007, 07:30 AM
Now on to another thought....
I find it funny whenever I go on public forums where people talk about IQs everyone who posts their score is somehow WAY over 100. Its like having a forum where everyone posts their penis size and, suprisingly, everyone man suddenly has 9.5", followed by "But I dont think size really matters that much anyway..." (I only use the inpolite analogy because its the best one I could think of)
There are plenty of dolts who end up being very successful. Take President Bush as a perfect example. IQ clearly does not matter in the selection of our national leadership, and he is definately not the first dumb one to end up in that office. Despite the low IQ in our presidents of current and past our country still continues to prosper as it always has.
At the same time, I've known people with very high scores who can't seem to accomplish anything useful for themselves. Take Long-Term Capital Management, a hedge fund run by the brainiest people on the planet...they thought they were so smart but they let their entire fortune get washed out from under them.
Introverted types tend to be good at IQ tests but if the IQ test was based on how well someone could deal with interpersonal BS then we would all score as pretty much useless, but we end up doing as well as we please despite having that as a weakness.
Marja
11-21-2007, 09:33 PM
I find it funny whenever I go on public forums where people talk about IQs everyone who posts their score is somehow WAY over 100. Its like having a forum where everyone posts their penis size and, suprisingly, everyone man suddenly has 9.5", followed by "But I dont think size really matters that much anyway..." (I only use the inpolite analogy because its the best one I could think of)
I was just about to say that I've tested as a borderline genius, but that was when I was 10. I don't think that my IQ is the same now or that it matters. Some people with very high IQs are impossible to deal with.
DroppedGT
11-21-2007, 10:43 PM
That "tickle" website IQ test said I was a genius ;) but I know I am average or slightly above average due to the downright trashy public school system I went to along with the community college where my instructors look like they walked in off the streets.
Also IQ tests I heard were to test those in school using the curriculum rather than what real knowledge you need after school. I know it proves to a degree your ability to process mathematics and language etc, but is that proof of finding a genius?
Sounds like we got so many geniuses in this thread alone we should be able to find an alternative to fossil fuel, solve world hunger and have peace on earth in the next 3 posts...
Hypomanic
12-08-2007, 03:54 AM
Above average populous. Not sure how much above yet.
mielikki
12-10-2007, 04:30 AM
Now on to another thought....
I find it funny whenever I go on public forums where people talk about IQs everyone who posts their score is somehow WAY over 100. Its like having a forum where everyone posts their penis size and, suprisingly, everyone man suddenly has 9.5", followed by "But I dont think size really matters that much anyway..." (I only use the inpolite analogy because its the best one I could think of)
I, on the other hand, have an extremely small penis.
Maybe because I am a girl :-)
Quite Robert
12-20-2007, 06:00 PM
Now on to another thought....
I find it funny whenever I go on public forums where people talk about IQs everyone who posts their score is somehow WAY over 100. Its like having a forum where everyone posts their penis size and, suprisingly, everyone man suddenly has 9.5", followed by "But I dont think size really matters that much anyway..." (I only use the inpolite analogy because its the best one I could think of)
True, but this is definitley not your average forum IQ wise either. I am in the high 130s low 140s
Based on IQ tests I have taken, I always score above average, yet not at the genius level. Usually around the 125-130 range.
Pinkie
12-20-2007, 08:34 PM
I tend to score 130+ in IQ tests, but I'm always a little dubious about how much such tests really tell us.
quentin
12-21-2007, 04:12 AM
It's really not surprising that people posting regularly on web forums are generally more intelligent than the average population. I mean, your average person can barely even spell. 21 to 23% of the adult population in the U.S. are functionally illiterate. (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.) When I taught Composition 101 when I was a T.A. in grad school, it was amazing how much remedial stuff I had to teach - incoming freshman at college simply do not know how to write. Period. I can't believe how high schools can graduate kids who don't even know the fundamental basics of spelling, grammar, vocabulary usage, etc. - and these being the majority of students. So the fact that you can articulate yourself through writing at all, in and of itself indicates a level of intelligence substantially higher than that of most of the rest of the population.
TheLoneINTJ
12-21-2007, 11:47 PM
So from reading this forum...we are all self-proclaimed Geniuses? Or atleast self-proclaimed superior intelliects? Whatever. I don't believe it. I'm straying from this herd. From now on my IQ is 26 and I have a 4" penis.
This probably explains my yuck to all these high IQs: I was in New Haven, CT with a friend a couple years back, we were talking about going to see a show that someone who he knew (who was also in it) said that we should see it because 'it is a good show'. He said something like "If the actors in the show tell you to go because it is good, then it's definately not worth going."
So I hear all these people with super-duper IQ's, and yes I read somewhere that IXXX MBTIs have a high IQ but something just seems to be missing here. But then again, I cant seem to put it together because of my 26 IQ. Maybe someoen can help me with this.
We should do some commando research and post the "What is your IQ?" question in the ESFP forum and see what they have to say. But, then again, aren't ESFPs known for making stuff up?
qwerty
12-22-2007, 12:00 AM
So from reading this forum...we are all self-proclaimed Geniuses? Or atleast self-proclaimed superior intelliects? Whatever. I don't believe it. I'm straying from this herd. From now on my IQ is 26 and I have a 4" penis.
This probably explains my yuck to all these high IQs: I was in New Haven, CT with a friend a couple years back, we were talking about going to see a show that someone who he knew (who was also in it) said that we should see it because 'it is a good show'. He said something like "If the actors in the show tell you to go because it is good, then it's definately not worth going."
So I hear all these people with super-duper IQ's, and yes I read somewhere that IXXX MBTIs have a high IQ but something just seems to be missing here. But then again, I cant seem to put it together because of my 26 IQ. Maybe someoen can help me with this.
We should do some commando research and post the "What is your IQ?" question in the ESFP forum and see what they have to say. But, then again, aren't ESFPs known for making stuff up?
Yeah it does get that way sometimes. I guess a genius is defined partially by his or her actions as well.
IQ is your potential to be a leading mind. It doesn't guarantee that you're the smartest person in the room.
Bear Warp
12-22-2007, 12:30 AM
I'd say my IQ is above the average populous.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Munstead
12-23-2007, 02:20 AM
I've been tested 3 times, at ages 12, 19 and 40. All times in proper testing environments, and mostly what I got from the tests was an understanding of why I feel and see things differently. I'm older so I 'get' things more now. I've learned that an ounce of patience is worth more than a pound of brains. I still struggle mightily for that ounce at times though...
Anyway, an interesting little tidbit from my last testing was that my score would be higher if I was in the US. Apparently, Canadians' ranking are slightly lower because we are generally smarter out of the gate. :devilish:
The gist of what I've learned is that many smart folk struggle in one way or another. I tell my son that just because he's smarter than people doesn't mean he's better than them. We can be humbled best by those less 'intelligent' than us, and I am -- often.
maximo
12-31-2007, 10:07 AM
:)
I'm going with average population here.
It's a tightly held belief of mine that if you think you know too much then you don't have a clue, (no offense intended for anyone else), it's mainly a tool I use for myself.
Good point. It's actually a paradox. The more you learn the smarter you should be? But, in actuality, the more you learn, the more you find out there is to know, so in the end you actually feel kind of dumb.
quentin
12-31-2007, 10:29 AM
It's not a paradox. As I recall, Confucius said something roughly along those lines in the Analects - that a truly wise man is as aware of what he does not know, as he is of what he knows. Only a fool believes that he knows all.
xhaan
12-31-2007, 11:04 AM
I'd say above average populous.
It seems that I'm "smarter" than most people I meet in real life, until I get on forums like this one, where I seem to be average to a bit below average, in relation to the other forum members.
Antares
01-01-2008, 03:41 AM
Most recent test: 147 (But I dont believe in it)
My last believable test was 138
Camelopardalis added to this post, 0 minutes and 53 seconds later...
I'd say above average populous.
It seems that I'm "smarter" than most people I meet in real life, until I get on forums like this one, where I seem to be average to a bit below average, in relation to the other forum members.
This forum seem way to smart, doesn't it? My feelings exactly... *sigh* Sometimes I feel that I'm SO dumb compared to some of the people here. By the way, I don't think that IQ really assess the whole of your intelligence so... I don't really believe in it.
Gonzo
01-02-2008, 03:02 AM
Bah! I hate IQ testing... And the concept of "IQ" for that matter. People tend to emphasis IQ way to much when it comes to telling how "smart" someone is. I've been tested one time and thats just because i had to. Had no desire to know the results tough. Because to me measuring a persons mental capability in IQ, is like measuring their worth in nickels and dimes.
I guess what I'm saying is that the human mind is to complicated to be valued in numbers ;)
Good point. It's actually a paradox. The more you learn the smarter you should be? But, in actuality, the more you learn, the more you find out there is to know, so in the end you actually feel kind of dumb.
Interesting point. The smartest, most intelligent people I've known have also been very humble and quiet about it, almost as if it was a disability. Indeed, socially it probably is.
ScottH
01-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Regarding the talk of "knowledge" (above) in the context of IQ... The two are separate and distinct.
Although I am a proponent of the view that the more information one has, the more patterns of thinking they are skilled at, the more concepts they have to warp and squeeze to fit new problems, and so they should "seem" smarter--more intellectually capable.
But, in the general sense, what a person knows, or thinks they know, has little to do with IQ. In fact, it's a pet peeve of mine when people confuse the two by, for example, calling a Trivial Pursuit winner "so smart," when in fact they have only shown knowledge.
Intelligence is merely some measurement of mental capacity, be it speed, memory, etc. IQ tests are only one way to measure such capacity, but as many like to say, "IQ tests measure how well you do on the IQ test."
Antares
01-04-2008, 08:36 AM
I'm wondering though. What of an individuals talents in fields that are not tested in regular IQ tests (logical, lingual, spatial etc)? I don't find IQ especially believable. What about musical and artistic geniuses? Out of perhaps 800 high school students in my school (I don't know the exact number, but 800 should be a close estimate), I'm one of the few out of perhaps 400 music students who made professional standard. I transpose music at sight and is the best sight-reader I know (besides the professor who instructs me). My art teacher who teaches me oil painting tells me that I'm her most gifted student. Doesn't that count for intelligence as well?
Aldanga
01-04-2008, 07:32 PM
I don't know my IQ, but I said 'average forum member' because I think we're all decently smart around here. 'Above average populous' sound horribly dumb to me, seeing as the state of our 'smartness' in the U.S. of A. I put myself a little bit above 'Above Average'.
elsdfr
01-04-2008, 09:39 PM
I think mine is negative :p
Sean O
07-26-2008, 10:42 PM
My IQ was last tested to be 144. To my knowledge, that qualifies as "near genius".
Seppuku Savant
07-26-2008, 10:48 PM
definitely i'm smarter than paris hilton.
Yes. Me too. ^.~
I have higher aptitude than the general populace, but I'm not a genius by any means.
zibber
07-27-2008, 06:55 AM
Around these parts, maybe not even average. I love this place.
ElstonGunn
07-27-2008, 11:11 AM
I'm not sure what my IQ is, but I can pee a really far distance...
I took an Iq test for an average adult (around age 20 to 30) and got 114. dunno what that is for a 16 year old
hauteur
07-27-2008, 11:45 AM
This forum seem way to smart, doesn't it? My feelings exactly... *sigh* Sometimes I feel that I'm SO dumb compared to some of the people here. By the way, I don't think that IQ really assess the whole of your intelligence so... I don't really believe in it.
Don't worry, Antares, you're not. Especially when you factor in your age.
I didn't answer the poll. I've only taken the IQ test that are online and I have zero confidence in their ability to give an accurate assessment. No matter how good their algorithms are, there just aren't enough questions on them to get a good measure. But that's not really why I didn't answer.
I honestly don't generally compare myself to other people when it comes to intelligence. As competitive as I am, I don't do that in this space. I put a lot of effort in communicating in ways that can be understood by the people I'm talking to. I'm also surrounded by intelligent people. I work in information technology, so most (not all) of the people I work with are very smart.
With that said, I've been told that some people describe me with adjectives such as "wicked smart" when I'm not around. Not totally sure what that means, though.
Mozzes
07-27-2008, 12:31 PM
I rate my IQ 3.5 stars out of 5.
SevenOfSpades
07-27-2008, 12:50 PM
My IQ test results have been in the 130-141 range, though I know I'm terrible at spatial recognition and rotating shapes, which I tend to think of as... pointless. I don't believe IQ is anywhere near being a definitive measurement of intelligence. I have been called a genius, but I don't believe it. At all. I have a lot to learn.
Motor Jax
07-27-2008, 04:29 PM
heh, superior forum member for me
Erika Redmark
07-27-2008, 04:36 PM
I wouldn't "rate" my IQ myself, but I took a test from a psychologist when I was 9 or 10. I've never seen the results myself, but if I remember my mother correctly my score was around 140 or 150. So…above average, but not genius level or anything.
Saint
07-27-2008, 04:42 PM
Genius, by definition.
Erika, genius begins at 140-145 or so. That's in the top 2%.
The Real Eagle
07-27-2008, 04:44 PM
I believe I am in the top 5% of the entire population.
I also believe I am 'only' about average when compared to others on this forum.
Mozzes
07-27-2008, 04:47 PM
Genius, by definition.
Erika, genius begins at 140-145 or so. That's in the top 2%.
In my opinion genius is something you are only after you've accomplished something worthy of being called 'genius'. Anything less is self-aggrandizement and ego stroking. Though I suppose that's mostly what IQ tests are for anyways.
Zedicus
07-27-2008, 05:00 PM
There seems to be a lot of smart people on the forum. How does your IQ compare to the populous?
This may have been said before but I did not read all the posts, but I think you need 2 polls for this to be in any way answerable. The average populous is not represented on this forum, it is one of the reason I enjoy reading the posts here. On this forum I would most likely be below average for general IQ, however in the main populous I could be considered above average the only official IQ test I had was after succumbing to Carbon Monoxide poisoning while working for my father cutting concrete, and I scored 136 which made me laugh because I may have been genius level IQ before.
I believe genius should only be applied to someone who discovers something new, not someone who is good at brain teasers.
Erika Redmark
07-27-2008, 08:28 PM
Genius, by definition.
Erika, genius begins at 140-145 or so. That's in the top 2%.
Well, I know someone who can memorise whole books…so if I'm a genius, they're basically off the charts, LOL.
Wikipedia says that Leta Hollingworth defined "genius" as 180, although Terman called anyone over 140 as a "genius".
Re ego-stroking: well, I'm not athletic or popular, and I'm pathetic in social situations…I have to come up with something to stroke my ego about. XD
Antares
07-28-2008, 02:48 AM
Um, I've begun to think: Why is Einstein the epitome for High IQ? His IQ according to most sources is only 160. Try Goethe instead. Or Thomas Wolsey.
I honestly don't generally compare myself to other people when it comes to intelligence. As competitive as I am, I don't do that in this space. I put a lot of effort in communicating in ways that can be understood by the people I'm talking to. I'm also surrounded by intelligent people. I work in information technology, so most (not all) of the people I work with are very smart.
I'm also fiercely competitive; but I don't compare IQs. For one, I don't know most people's IQ. But so what if they have a higher IQ than me? I compare achievements, knowledge and intellectual capacity. What's intelligence if you aren't going to put it to good use? That's why I don't respect smart people who accomplish nothing.
phantasma
07-28-2008, 02:54 AM
According to my IQ, I'm a borderline genius, but I seldom ever feel that smart. IQ only portrays problem solving intelligence, and not much else.
Karamazov
07-28-2008, 03:02 AM
I agree with past comments in acknowledging our stronger and weaker points. IQ tests aren't necessarily indicative of where a person belongs on an intellectual level.
sam988
07-28-2008, 03:19 AM
I got just superior than average intelligence; more than enough to do what i need to do, although if i could choose to get 10 or 20 more IQ points i wouldn't complain..
demvesalius
07-28-2008, 03:43 AM
150's...apparently...but I think of IQ as megahertz on a computer, megahertz mean nothing unless there is a large enough hard-drive. Although I'm considered to be very intelligent, I have yet to find anything in academia that gets my heart to burn like it does for racing my bike. School is just boring to me and a bunch of regurgitation.
I'm not going to vote.
Jakalwarrior
07-28-2008, 11:56 AM
In highschool one of those little standardized tests told me I was smarter than 98% of Louisiana... then on the ACT I only got a 27 :( (my math score sucked horribly). Guess that means I am super smart for my state and only pretty smart for the country.
le Duc
07-28-2008, 12:01 PM
If I was high when I took the IQ test, wouldn't that give me a high IQ?
Bandit
07-28-2008, 03:24 PM
Just got off the short bus, which way do I go?
True Rune
07-28-2008, 04:30 PM
Nothing special 120-130 range. 131 is the highest I've ever scored..
Erika Redmark
07-28-2008, 04:53 PM
I'm also fiercely competitive; but I don't compare IQs. For one, I don't know most people's IQ. But so what if they have a higher IQ than me? I compare achievements, knowledge and intellectual capacity. What's intelligence if you aren't going to put it to good use? That's why I don't respect smart people who accomplish nothing.
Well, when I interact with someone who memorises entire books and takes graduate-level courses as a sophomore, for example, that's a tip-off that his innate potential is pretty good. I kind of envy that guy's inner mental life. (Or when someone engages in philosophical discussions with college students and older adults and can totally hold their own–better than most even–at the age of 15. ^_~)
NephilimAzrael
07-28-2008, 05:55 PM
It is genius level, but the irony is that I often, due to sub-par performance in standardized academic exams, display a nonchalant idiocy, yet my IQ branches into the genius regions (love psychometric testing).
I always thought it was my abysmal communication skills. :sneaky:
It isn't about the brain though. It's about the body in this world. I'm in brilliant shape, round being the dodecahedron being a shape. lmao.
Provoker
07-28-2008, 07:29 PM
I have been called a genius
Why "a genius" rather than just "genius"? Do you place "a" before God lol?
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I intellectually benchpress something between 131 and 155. With that said, words people have used to describe me over the years include intellectual, intelligent, bright, sensible, gifted, philosophical, insightful, interesting, independent-minded, free thinker and in very rare cases genius. But when I've been called genius it was usually by simpletons who became lost in a converation with me usually after my preface to the main debate. For the most part, I haven't been given the genius title by my peers and family. In my view, genius involves adopting novel ways of looking at things combined with keen perceptions that penetrate through the pettiness of social consciousness and reveal the highly intricate and complex nature of reality.
phantasma
07-29-2008, 03:36 AM
Because "genius" is not a name. It's a level/rank, just like the difference between God (a specific god) and a god, an immortal all powerful person.
Sorry, it's all obvious to me, and irks me when it isn't obvious to someone else.
Beery Swine
07-29-2008, 06:38 AM
I'm surprised Average forum member hasn't gotten more. Ya'll a bunch of cocky bastards. Nearly 60% think they are at least an above average forum memeber, which is, needless to say, completely impossible. I mean I'm in the 95th percentile (about 125) but that seems about average for this forum.
NephilimAzrael
08-01-2008, 08:30 PM
I'm surprised Average forum member hasn't gotten more. Ya'll a bunch of cocky bastards. Nearly 60% think they are at least an above average forum memeber, which is, needless to say, completely impossible. I mean I'm in the 95th percentile (about 125) but that seems about average for this forum.
If most of us are above average intelligence, then why consider it cocky to state the fact. I would consider it more like being proud of the INTJ trait of intelligence and confidence. :toff:
Monte314
08-02-2008, 10:29 PM
Eh... so so. What is much more important is how *other* people rate my IQ.
PHS Philip
08-02-2008, 10:38 PM
I had an IQ test (a real one) so I know where I was in relation to the general population at age 8. I don't, however, know how I compare to them now. I also know that this forum is well above average. And finally, I know all too well that I can't objectively judge my intelligence. So I'll just say "Average Forum Member."
Mozzes
08-02-2008, 10:42 PM
When I first saw this thread I thought it was asking "How would you rate IQ (that movie with Meg Ryan)?" So I felt compelled to answer "plain dumb" on the poll.
PHS Philip
08-02-2008, 10:46 PM
If most of us are above average intelligence, then why consider it cocky to state the fact. I would consider it more like being proud of the INTJ trait of intelligence and confidence. :toff:
There is a tier "average forum member" and "superior forum member." For the most part, you're going to have equal numbers of above and below average people. Since this forum is skewed toward higher IQs, and the farther you get from the population average, that could be changed a bit, but I think it would be a little more in the direction of more slightly below the forum average, and a few well above it. But then, that actually would mean that there would just be a wider range above than below, wouldn't it...*sigh*
But then, I'm both making a few assumptions, and no good at analyzing statistics. So ignore the ramblings here, for all intents and purposes it's enough to say that there should be a roughly even distribution here above and below.
Anderson
08-02-2008, 11:07 PM
One test I took three years ago said my IQ is 130. The most recent one I took (about a month ago) said 134. So for practical purposes, I'll just call it 132. I think that is the cutoff for Mensa. If I'm not mistake, IQ is scored on a bell curve, in other words, how much higher you scored in comparison with the general population. SAT (old style)-1260; ACT-33; ASVAB-97. I would sincerely call myself abover-average intellegence, or even gifted, but am in no way Bobby Fisher.
Monte314
08-02-2008, 11:14 PM
One test I took three years ago said my IQ is 130. The most recent one I took (about a month ago) said 134. So for practical purposes, I'll just call it 132. I think that is the cutoff for Mensa. If I'm not mistake, IQ is scored on a bell curve, in other words, how much higher you scored in comparison with the general population. SAT (old style)-1260; ACT-33; ASVAB-97. I would sincerely call myself abover-average intellegence, or even gifted, but am in no way Bobby Fisher.
The standard deviation of the Stanford-Binet IQ test is 16 points. Two standard deviations above the mean would be 132, which is at about the 98th percentile. That's where this odd-looking Mensa score comes from.
Mozzes
08-03-2008, 12:41 AM
One test I took three years ago said my IQ is 130. The most recent one I took (about a month ago) said 134. So for practical purposes, I'll just call it 132. I think that is the cutoff for Mensa. If I'm not mistake, IQ is scored on a bell curve, in other words, how much higher you scored in comparison with the general population. SAT (old style)-1260; ACT-33; ASVAB-97. I would sincerely call myself abover-average intellegence, or even gifted, but am in no way Bobby Fisher.
Wow, you creamed me in ACT by 4 points but I scored almost 150 points higher than you did on the SAT. I don't even remember what the difference was between them.
Anderson
08-03-2008, 01:27 AM
Wow, you creamed me in ACT by 4 points but I scored almost 150 points higher than you did on the SAT. I don't even remember what the difference was between them.
I should probably mention that I took the SAT only once--at the end of my junior year in high school. Well actually it was the summer between my Junior and Senior year. I took the ACT months later, so I was better prepared for the ACT. Mind you, these are 2003 scores, so I would be interested in what it would be now? Of course there's always the GRE, but since I'm pre-med, the MCAT is more suitable to my ambitions. I haven't even cracked a Princeton Review/Kaplan guide to the MCAT yet, so it looks like I have some work to do!
Monte314
08-03-2008, 06:34 PM
Wow, you creamed me in ACT by 4 points but I scored almost 150 points higher than you did on the SAT. I don't even remember what the difference was between them.
The SAT is an aptitude test: it attempts to measure intellectual ability irrespective of knowledge.
The ACT is an achievement test: it attempts to measure knowledge/mastery without focus on intellectual capacity.
So, a simplistic interpretation of pairs of scores might be:
high SAT + high ACT: you are using your great gifts well
high SAT + low ACT: you "smart", but not living up to it
low SAT + high ACT: you are making outstanding use of limited gifts
low SAT + low ACT: run for office
PHS Philip
08-03-2008, 06:39 PM
Haha, I like the last one. It's funny 'cause it's true :(
LionsPride
08-03-2008, 07:04 PM
I'd say my intelligence is higher than the average population. My intelligence was only slightly higher than average in my degree program at University. And I'd say I'm below average when it comes to intelligence on the INTJ forum. In terms of IQ, I'm not sure. I've never been formally tested so I can only go on comparisons to those around me (subjective I know).
In terms of how I view my own intelligence, without comparing it to other people, I feel reasonably competent to deal with a wide variety of situations or problems. Some things I am better at handling then others, but for the most part there isn't much I can't learn if I need to. To that end I am pretty satisfied with my level of intelligence, but I am always hungry for more knowledge.
searcher
08-04-2008, 02:28 AM
I tested 157, so I put genius *watches modesty fly out window*
gioanpj
08-04-2008, 09:12 AM
Can we really quantify intelligence? I think IQs are wrong on so many levels. I'll go into it further if asked nicely.
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ElstonGunn
08-04-2008, 06:19 PM
Can we really quantify intelligence?
Yes, but only if I can use that information to "prove" than I'm smarter (i.e., better) than you. Otherwise, no, intelligence can't be quantified.
gioanpj
08-04-2008, 09:38 PM
Yes, but only if I can use that information to "prove" than I'm smarter (i.e., better) than you. Otherwise, no, intelligence can't be quantified.
Yes, so it tends to be nothing more than a crude rationale for one's lot in life, and a way to mask an inferiority complex. Narcissism has never looked so unappealing.
NephilimAzrael
08-04-2008, 09:46 PM
Yes, so it tends to be nothing more than a crude rationale for one's lot in life, and a way to mask an inferiority complex. Narcissism has never looked so unappealing.
He was being arrogant & pompous, not narcissistic.
gioanpj
08-04-2008, 10:23 PM
He was being arrogant & pompous, not narcissistic.
I wasn't necessarily referring to his post, nor him as a person (I don't know him). Certainly though, arrogance and pomposity are, generally speaking, expressions of narcissism. Yet, it appears that all three are interrelated.
Let's get real though. Blabbering about your IQ is idiotic. No one cares, and it's merely a way to inflate one's ego. Just because a person has a "high IQ" doesn't mean they're not morons in other aspects of their life, i.e. social skills, etc.
I'd take a dullard with some social skills over a "genius" with a penchant for expressing how intelligent he is any day.
But this is the thread where we're supposed to stroke our egos, right?
NephilimAzrael
08-04-2008, 10:32 PM
I'd take a dullard with some social skills over a "genius" with a penchant for expressing how intelligent he is any day.
But this is the thread where we're supposed to stroke our egos, right?
Or be ironic? :laugh: I doubt the preference for modesty matters if one is authentically being humorous, but if some of these posts are intended for boasting then I would agree with you.
gioanpj
08-04-2008, 11:16 PM
Or be ironic? :laugh: I doubt the preference for modesty matters if one is authentically being humorous, but if some of these posts are intended for boasting then I would agree with you.
Ah, yes, how hilarious. I've never seen anything funnier than an internet forum where everyone claims to be a super genius because it's "ironic."
:)
enWTFp
08-04-2008, 11:56 PM
IQ sucks, as well as Einstein. Got 140 something, always thought that's nothing much. Who cares to compare with the average anyway.
Mozzes
08-05-2008, 01:25 AM
FYI I was dissin' IQ tests before all the cool kids were doing it.
ElstonGunn
08-05-2008, 08:09 PM
FYI I was dissin' IQ tests before all the cool kids were doing it.
Yeah, but the only people who criticize IQ tests are the people with low IQs. Right?
Mozzes
08-06-2008, 01:10 AM
Yeah, but the only people who criticize IQ tests are the people with low IQs. Right?
I'm the exception to every rule.
upuaut
08-06-2008, 01:11 AM
I believe 'genius' is a lot of hard work, in general. a good IQ definitely helps.
Max T
08-06-2008, 12:35 PM
A professor once considered me a genus amongst humans- homo habilis no less.
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I grunted and went back to my flint.
127001
08-06-2008, 01:29 PM
I consistently test in the genius range, but I don't think IQ is a very accurate measure of general intelligence since the brain is far too complex to be accurately described by a single number.
dont forget....Einstein was an INTP
An INTP would say "God does not roll dice?"
That's not a very perceptive thing to say. It's a judgment.
NephilimAzrael
08-06-2008, 05:12 PM
I consistently test in the genius range, but I don't think IQ is a very accurate measure of general intelligence since the brain is far too complex to be accurately described by a single number.
An INTP would say "God does not roll dice?"
That's not a very perceptive thing to say. It's a judgment.
And could god create an IQ that he himself could not outwit? :laugh:
ElstonGunn
08-07-2008, 10:13 PM
An INTP would say "God does not roll dice?"
That's not a very perceptive thing to say. It's a judgment.
I heard this rumor that once, a long time ago, an INTP actually did make a judgment. No one knows for sure what he decided, but they say it had something to do with wearing socks that matched.
IQ tests are not a very good test of intelligence. Hell, you can study for them if you've done enough. All I've been able to discern is that it's a test of how well you can spot patterns.
Regardless, I did one in Gr. 10 and I scored a 144.
Wufnu
08-24-2008, 11:28 AM
My IQ has always fluctuated around the 150's. Lowest I've had was 152, highest 161. Usually I'm around 155. It's a pretty meaningless number. I'm happy with C's in my courses so IQ definitely doesn't equate "success" or superiority. In fact, I usually don't talk about it but I feel comfortable with discussing it with y'all.
RabbitEars
08-24-2008, 11:35 AM
Offtopic, but I am starting to be a fan of Monte.
Not the first one I suppose :)
How valid are the results of an IQ test done at 4.5?
Agile
08-24-2008, 01:49 PM
Since IQ = intelligence quotient, it says little about how smart you are, and has nothing to do with worldly successes such as ambition, schlolarly achievements, etc.
IQ tests are a measure of brainpower, not application...do read Monte's post on the SAT vs the ACT for an explanation.
All human behaviors are learned. All of them. The argument that talent measurements are not good measures of talent...misses the mark, because talent is a learned behavior.
It is just a behavior that is learned from sources hard to pin down, and there is always a nature component that is difficult to separate from nurture, leaving enough of a grey area for those who will only accept overwhelmingly positive test results as authoritative (ie *93%* of those scoring 1400+ on the SAT graduated college in 4 years, with a 3.7+ GPA, from a top 25 university)
It is, however, still a learned behavior (intelligence in this case) so the correct question is, does an IQ test give us the results we want? Do the results make the distinctions we want them to make, the measurements we want? If so, the test is an appropriate measure.
Infernia
08-24-2008, 02:50 PM
I never did well on IQ tests. So I answered average. Though I might be below average. I don't know. It doesn't really matter, since I have other skills.
RabbitEars
08-24-2008, 03:05 PM
Agile, I mean 4.5 years old. Not the GPAs something, I never took it, I am from Poland. It is the only valid test I have.
Wufnu
08-24-2008, 04:22 PM
Uh oh, I took one of those free ones from IQtest.com and it was 132. I guess my brain has died some in the past 6 years. No drugs, honest!
PHS Philip
08-24-2008, 05:58 PM
All human behaviors are learned. All of them.
I hate to nitpick, but that's not true. Certain behaviors are instinctual, such as drinking water, sex, listening, talking (the languages aren't instinctual, but communication in some form is), and breathing. They're all behaviors, but they aren't learned.
Mechanical Messiah
08-24-2008, 06:31 PM
Gotta love on-line IQ tests. I've never encountered a forum where the average IQ was less than 130 or so.
PHS Philip
08-24-2008, 06:43 PM
Gotta love on-line IQ tests. I've never encountered a forum where the average IQ was less than 130 or so.
It's because us internet users are superior in every way to those foolish offline pawns. ;)
zibber
08-25-2008, 07:52 AM
I picked average forum member (and sincerely believe that), but hasn't there been a similar poll recently?
Uh oh, I took one of those free ones from IQtest.com and it was 132. I guess my brain has died some in the past 6 years. No drugs, honest!
Same here, thereabouts. If that means I'll get 160 on a real test too, I'm entirely down with that.
Wufnu
08-25-2008, 08:19 AM
Hrrm, I think it said somewhere their test is usually accurate within like 10 points? I dunno. I think what it means is that mine has gone down. Can they go down?
I know when I took the Mensa practice exam a couple years it said I should definitely get in touch but I just didn't feel like shelling out the money to take a test for a plastic card. I don't think they do much in my area.
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