View Full Version : Why do other types come here? Just curious
jtskinner
10-31-2007, 04:12 PM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
The Rose
10-31-2007, 04:19 PM
Yeah. I'd like to know that, too.
I know some INTPs come here.
imoutofhere
10-31-2007, 04:24 PM
I think most of them are trying to misrepresent themselves to the world as INTJ (because it's special and brilliant, just like they wish they were). The girl in the thread I just came from expressed not even knowing she was doing it, so some of them might be deluding themselves. In other words... They don't care if WE think they are, they just want to think of themselves that way on their own. I like to call that kind of thing Voluntary Isolated Ignorance, or VII for short.
If you mean ones not trying to pretend to be INTJ, I haven't noticed anyone on this board yet that's not marked as an INTJ, though I have seen at least two blatant non-INTJs, and I haven't even seen many of the members yet, or been here for very long.
OneBadMother
10-31-2007, 04:48 PM
I come here because INTP Central is too large and intimidating of a beast. Also, to gain greater understanding of the INTJ I know.
Plus, the people here make for interesting conversation.
I come here because INTP Central is too large and intimidating of a beast. Also, to gain greater understanding of the INTJ I know.
Plus, the people here make for interesting conversation.
Yeah yeah... you're here because we are No1.
I can understand with not hanging around lots of P's... it must be a disorganised and chaotic... Do they have threads? Or just one thread with a billion conversations on it? *;D *:-X *:P
Henry
10-31-2007, 05:45 PM
I come here because INTP Central is too large and intimidating of a beast. Also, to gain greater understanding of the INTJ I know.
Plus, the people here make for interesting conversation.
I was on INTP central a while back as I test back and forth between p and j. As a whole, I do not find that they're open intellectually and certainly not emotionally to any range of perspective or experience.
mind_wander
10-31-2007, 06:34 PM
I come here because INTP Central is too large and intimidating of a beast. Also, to gain greater understanding of the INTJ I know.
Plus, the people here make for interesting conversation.
Yeah yeah... you're here because we are No1.
I can understand with not hanging around lots of P's... it must be a disorganised and chaotic... Do they have threads? Or just one thread with a billion conversations on it? *;D *:-X *:P
lol, God you are crazy *:-X ;D But, to understand INTP is very complicated. Its like listening to a skipping cd, "Music is playing, then it stopped, skipped, then onto the next." So INTJ's, WTF was that section of the song was playing. An easier analogy, it does not mean "we don't understand you, we do just takes alot of time recallibrating our thought process." I know my team has questions on what is the true INTP objectives, so if it feels any better to resolve this problem: I'd put it in a pattern in what INTP wants to say it, in a logical matter.
toonia
10-31-2007, 07:42 PM
I come here because I especially enjoy Ni dominant thinking that holds itself strongly to reason. It allows for reasoned speculation. This is not as possible with most cognitive processes.
Here a link to a discussion regarding the fluidity of type from ***********.
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I am personally no expert on Jung, but from what I have read and encountered from those more expert, this personality system was not initially viewed as a fixed self-identifier. To what degree it is fluid? Is there a basic underlying type that can evolve in response to its environment, which will always have some pull to evolve back when the environmental conditions are removed? Or is the system deeply fluid without a single identifying type throughout a lifetime?
This is an important distinction because it places the entire concept of INTJness or any single type as a stable source of personal identity into question. My former psychology professor from a first semester grad course presented MBTI as a fluid system that is interesting but in no way conclusive. Although that doesn't mean there are not certain styles of reasoning that represent the way a particular type tends to think.
xtremegeek
10-31-2007, 08:46 PM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
I got the I_TJ, but the N stumps me. I'm trying to understand the N.
Nomad
11-01-2007, 01:05 AM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
I got the I_TJ, but the N stumps me. I'm trying to understand the N.
What we know comes in under the radar. Our minds continually, constantly, without rest or respite, free associate. A human could not possibly articulate our thought process, too much is involved. Everything in my head is connected to every other, and all things are used. Our decisions and thoughts and conclusions come in gestalt, them we go back and put it in order so others can understand our conclusion. Our odds of making a good decision very quickly are very high, and the more information we have, the faster it comes.
-Nomad
Raven Queen
11-01-2007, 01:18 AM
it must be a disorganised and chaotic... Do they have threads? Or just one thread with a billion conversations on it? ;D :-X :P
I think it's slightly more organised than here, actually. And they have games! :D But then this is still quite new, and they are INTPs who naturally spend 20 out of 24 hours each day on the computer.
I come here because there are too many people there, and I don't feel comfortable.. Plus I'm also fascinated with INTJs, though we INTPS are no.1. :Pfixed broken quote tags
cielo market
11-01-2007, 02:09 AM
They want to see if we're really robots or not.
mind_wander
11-01-2007, 08:22 AM
it must be a disorganised and chaotic... Do they have threads? Or just one thread with a billion conversations on it? *;D *:-X *:P
I think it's slightly more organised than here, actually. And they have games! :D But then this is still quite new, and they are INTPs who naturally spend 20 out of 24 hours each day on the computer.
I come here because there are too many people there, and I don't feel comfortable.. Plus I'm also fascinated with INTJs, though we INTPS are no.1. :Pfixed broken quote tags
Wow, 20hrs-24hrs, spending on the computer. hmm, yeah the P side is the reason for that. For me, there is a stop, too much is not so good. What kind of games? or are you referring to mind games? Nope, we are no. 1, lol. Unless, we meet our own counterpart, then there would be a compromise so we both are no.1's.
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 09:06 AM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
I got the I_TJ, but the N stumps me. *I'm trying to understand the N. *
What we know comes in under the radar. Our minds continually, constantly, without rest or respite, free associate. A human could not possibly articulate our thought process, too much is involved. Everything in my head is connected to every other, and all things are used. Our decisions and thoughts and conclusions come in gestalt, them we go back and put it in order so others can understand our conclusion. Our odds of making a good decision very quickly are very high, and the more information we have, the faster it comes.
-Nomad
So do you tell yourself that you are relegated to a very lonely life unless you hook up with another INTJ? Or do you learn to like lesser mortals?
rwyatt365
11-01-2007, 09:24 AM
[quote=xtremegeek]What we know comes in under the radar. Our minds continually, constantly, without rest or respite, free associate. A human could not possibly articulate our thought process, too much is involved. Everything in my head is connected to every other, and all things are used. Our decisions and thoughts and conclusions come in gestalt, them we go back and put it in order so others can understand our conclusion. Our odds of making a good decision very quickly are very high, and the more information we have, the faster it comes.
-Nomad
So do you tell yourself that you are relegated to a very lonely life unless you hook up with another INTJ? *Or do you learn to like lesser mortals?
Nomad; I like that summary. I think it characterizes the INTJ mind as well as any other I've read. I often have problems trying to explain my thought processes to others, I think I'll try to remember this whenever that occasion comes up again.
xtremegeek; I can't speak for everyone, but I have never felt "lonely" when I have been alone. I have my thoughts with me always, so I am never lonely. That's a hard concept for most other people that are "wired" to believe that alone=lonely. The company of people has never been a driving need for me.
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 09:30 AM
[quote=xtremegeek]What we know comes in under the radar. Our minds continually, constantly, without rest or respite, free associate. A human could not possibly articulate our thought process, too much is involved. Everything in my head is connected to every other, and all things are used. Our decisions and thoughts and conclusions come in gestalt, them we go back and put it in order so others can understand our conclusion. Our odds of making a good decision very quickly are very high, and the more information we have, the faster it comes.
-Nomad
So do you tell yourself that you are relegated to a very lonely life unless you hook up with another INTJ? *Or do you learn to like lesser mortals?
Nomad; I like that summary. I think it characterizes the INTJ mind as well as any other I've read. I often have problems trying to explain my thought processes to others, I think I'll try to remember this whenever that occasion comes up again.
xtremegeek; I can't speak for everyone, but I have never felt "lonely" when I have been alone. I have my thoughts with me always, so I am never lonely. That's a hard concept for most other people that are "wired" to believe that alone=lonely. The company of people has never been a driving need for me.
I can appreciate the concept of 'alone but not lonely' as there have been plenty of times in my life when I thoroughly enjoyed not seeing or speaking to another human being for a day or two. But after a day or two, I realize that I need to have people in my life whether I want to or not - for work, for home projects, etc. So for me, it's a matter of finding balance between the 'alone time' and having people around. But INTJs could live on an island (literally) and never have a need for another human being? You don't have the need for even a buddy on that island?
rwyatt365
11-01-2007, 09:53 AM
I can appreciate the concept of 'alone but not lonely' as there have been plenty of times in my life when I thoroughly enjoyed not seeing or speaking to another human being for a day or two. *But after a day or two, I realize that I need to have people in my life whether I want to or not - for work, for home projects, etc. *So for me, it's a matter of finding balance between the 'alone time' and having people around. *But INTJs could live on an island (literally) and never have a need for another human being? *You don't have the need for even a buddy on that island?
I've watched movies and TV shows where people go nuts after being stranded on desert islands and I've always thought to myself, "What's the big deal?". All the weeping and moaning for families, friends and loved-ones - that stuff drives ME crazy! It would seem to me that using that energy for tending to survival needs would be much more productive. Having another person around means having to deal with their issues (if/when they arise) and that's a real hassle - more trouble than it's worth. As an INTJ I would hazard a guess and say that I could do quite nicely stranded on an island by myself - thank you very much.
Raven Queen
11-01-2007, 09:56 AM
Nomad; I like that summary. I think it characterizes the INTJ mind as well as any other I've read. I often have problems trying to explain my thought processes to others, I think I'll try to remember this whenever that occasion comes up again.
xtremegeek; I can't speak for everyone, but I have never felt "lonely" when I have been alone. I have my thoughts with me always, so I am never lonely. That's a hard concept for most other people that are "wired" to believe that alone=lonely. The company of people has never been a driving need for me.
I can appreciate the concept of 'alone but not lonely' as there have been plenty of times in my life when I thoroughly enjoyed not seeing or speaking to another human being for a day or two. *But after a day or two, I realize that I need to have people in my life whether I want to or not - for work, for home projects, etc. *So for me, it's a matter of finding balance between the 'alone time' and having people around. *But INTJs could live on an island (literally) and never have a need for another human being? *You don't have the need for even a buddy on that island?
I've wondered that myself (not an INTJ though). I find that I can withdraw into my room for days at a time, with virtually no human contact all day- not even instant messaging or text messaging - and only go to the kitchen for food. Haven't tried for more than a few days, because real life usually interrupts and I'll have go out sooner or later. But I think I could survive truly being alone without friends - the only times I really wanted human contact was when I was extremely stressed out or depressed, but books are quite enough to distract me from that, too. And if I wanted to express my thoughts or anything I simply write them down - I hardly ever reveal them to other people anyway.
*Wonders if I have gone off topic*
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 10:58 AM
I can appreciate the concept of 'alone but not lonely' as there have been plenty of times in my life when I thoroughly enjoyed not seeing or speaking to another human being for a day or two. *But after a day or two, I realize that I need to have people in my life whether I want to or not - for work, for home projects, etc. *So for me, it's a matter of finding balance between the 'alone time' and having people around. *But INTJs could live on an island (literally) and never have a need for another human being? *You don't have the need for even a buddy on that island?
I've watched movies and TV shows where people go nuts after being stranded on desert islands and I've always thought to myself, "What's the big deal?". All the weeping and moaning for families, friends and loved-ones - that stuff drives ME crazy! It would seem to me that using that energy for tending to survival needs would be much more productive. Having another person around means having to deal with their issues (if/when they arise) and that's a real hassle - more trouble than it's worth. As an INTJ I would hazard a guess and say that I could do quite nicely stranded on an island by myself - thank you very much.
Hmmm...interesting. Do any of you know of an INTJ (besides Jane Gooddall) who has stranded hiimself/herself, intentionally, in a remote area away from all civilization? Seems to me, there would be some kind of INTJ realestate company that would focus on finding places like that for all you INTJs.
rwyatt365, do you go camping much?
rwyatt365
11-01-2007, 11:04 AM
Hmmm...interesting. *Do any of you know of an INTJ (besides Jane Gooddall) who has stranded hiimself/herself, intentionally, in a remote area away from all civilization? *Seems to me, there would be some kind of INTJ realestate company that would focus on finding places like that for all you INTJs.
rwyatt365, do you go camping much?
...nope, no clue. But I'm sure that has occurred to some enterprising soul.
Camping? No. My 'escape' is to hop in my car (or motorcycle) and go for a long, long drive. I avoid 'company' by having vehicles that - to most people - are highly uncomfortable for long periods of time, so others politely decline my (insincere) offers.
mind_wander
11-01-2007, 11:15 AM
xtremegeek; I can't speak for everyone, but I have never felt "lonely" when I have been alone. I have my thoughts with me always, so I am never lonely. That's a hard concept for most other people that are "wired" to believe that alone=lonely. The company of people has never been a driving need for me.
Take make us both, I never felt alone; well its kinda lonely when no one kinda understand you at times. Hey, some people get it and some people don't. Its not a matter of life or death, but we all have different points of views; we see things alittle more complete. But thats just my guess, if we view things as a whole, besides being alone; Does that mean we are happy INTJ's because we are self-independent?
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 11:17 AM
Hmmm...interesting. *Do any of you know of an INTJ (besides Jane Gooddall) who has stranded hiimself/herself, intentionally, in a remote area away from all civilization? *Seems to me, there would be some kind of INTJ realestate company that would focus on finding places like that for all you INTJs.
rwyatt365, do you go camping much?
...nope, no clue. But I'm sure that has occurred to some enterprising soul.
Camping? No. My 'escape' is to hop in my car (or motorcycle) and go for a long, long drive. I avoid 'company' by having vehicles that - to most people - are highly uncomfortable for long periods of time, so others politely decline my (insincere) offers.
Makes sense. I certainly would not want to ride on a crotch rocket... :thinking:...yes, I can imagine pain, regardless of gender, if one were to ride on a motor cycle for any length of period.
mind_wander
11-01-2007, 11:20 AM
I can appreciate the concept of 'alone but not lonely' as there have been plenty of times in my life when I thoroughly enjoyed not seeing or speaking to another human being for a day or two. *But after a day or two, I realize that I need to have people in my life whether I want to or not - for work, for home projects, etc. *So for me, it's a matter of finding balance between the 'alone time' and having people around. *But INTJs could live on an island (literally) and never have a need for another human being? *You don't have the need for even a buddy on that island?
I've watched movies and TV shows where people go nuts after being stranded on desert islands and I've always thought to myself, "What's the big deal?". All the weeping and moaning for families, friends and loved-ones - that stuff drives ME crazy! It would seem to me that using that energy for tending to survival needs would be much more productive. Having another person around means having to deal with their issues (if/when they arise) and that's a real hassle - more trouble than it's worth. As an INTJ I would hazard a guess and say that I could do quite nicely stranded on an island by myself - thank you very much.
Lol, you reminded me of the movie: Pirates of the Caribbean III, when Sparrow was stranded on an Island. I broke out laughing when he was hallusinating and talking to himself on how to solve the problems. Great INTJ thinking :thumbsup: "I don't need anyone, get away from me; since most of the crew try to kill me in the past (Jack Sparrow)."
mind_wander
11-01-2007, 11:22 AM
Nomad; I like that summary. I think it characterizes the INTJ mind as well as any other I've read. I often have problems trying to explain my thought processes to others, I think I'll try to remember this whenever that occasion comes up again.
xtremegeek; I can't speak for everyone, but I have never felt "lonely" when I have been alone. I have my thoughts with me always, so I am never lonely. That's a hard concept for most other people that are "wired" to believe that alone=lonely. The company of people has never been a driving need for me.
I can appreciate the concept of 'alone but not lonely' as there have been plenty of times in my life when I thoroughly enjoyed not seeing or speaking to another human being for a day or two. *But after a day or two, I realize that I need to have people in my life whether I want to or not - for work, for home projects, etc. *So for me, it's a matter of finding balance between the 'alone time' and having people around. *But INTJs could live on an island (literally) and never have a need for another human being? *You don't have the need for even a buddy on that island?
I've wondered that myself (not an INTJ though). I find that I can withdraw into my room for days at a time, with virtually no human contact all day- not even instant messaging or text messaging - and only go to the kitchen for food. Haven't tried for more than a few days, because real life usually interrupts and I'll have go out sooner or later. But I think I could survive truly being alone without friends - the only times I really wanted human contact was when I was extremely stressed out or depressed, but books are quite enough to distract me from that, too. And if I wanted to express my thoughts or anything I simply write them down - I hardly ever reveal them to other people anyway.
*Wonders if I have gone off topic*
Nope you are not off topic because, as you mentioned, "but books are quite enough to distract me from that, too." In here, definitely will read alot and it seems you love it. At least your friendly :)
rwyatt365
11-01-2007, 11:28 AM
Makes sense. *I certainly would not want to ride on a crotch rocket... :thinking:...yes, I can imagine pain, regardless of gender, if one were to ride on a motor cycle for any length of period.
Oh, but it hurts so good! 8-)
One day I'll have to break down and get a touring bike - but that's another thread...
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 12:04 PM
Makes sense. *I certainly would not want to ride on a crotch rocket... :thinking:...yes, I can imagine pain, regardless of gender, if one were to ride on a motor cycle for any length of period.
Oh, but it hurts so good! *8-)
One day I'll have to break down and get a touring bike - but that's another thread...
Yes, that's for another thread. To answer this thread, "Why do other types come here?" Apparently, it's to have some interesting and fun conversation with a group of people we have no hope of understanding. :thumbsup:
thegnat
11-01-2007, 12:20 PM
They're trying to figure out our plot to take over the world. They're afraid of us.
Raven Queen
11-01-2007, 12:27 PM
No, we're not. We're trying to prevent you from taking over the world because it belongs to us.
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 12:30 PM
They're trying to figure out our plot to take over the world. They're afraid of us.
Hmmm.... :thinking: Note to self: INTJs display tendency towards paranoia.
I was on INTP central a while back as I test back and forth between p and j. As a whole, I do not find that they're open intellectually and certainly not emotionally to any range of perspective or experience.
The vast majority are ISTPs and ISTJs that are deceiving themselves. They're not deceiving anyone else as they believe they are, though.
thegnat
11-01-2007, 12:34 PM
They're trying to figure out our plot to take over the world. They're afraid of us.
Hmmm.... :thinking: Note to self: INTJs display tendency towards paranoia.
No. I'm just being realistic.
They're trying to figure out our plot to take over the world. They're afraid of us.
Hmmm.... :thinking: Note to self: INTJs display tendency towards paranoia.
No. I'm just being realistic.
I thought you were just being funny, because I laughed.
thegnat
11-01-2007, 12:40 PM
They're trying to figure out our plot to take over the world. They're afraid of us.
Hmmm.... :thinking: Note to self: INTJs display tendency towards paranoia.
No. I'm just being realistic.
I thought you were just being funny, because I laughed.
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
cielo market
11-01-2007, 12:46 PM
They're trying to figure out our plot to take over the world. They're afraid of us.
Shh! That's top secret! *[smiley=nono.gif]
mind_wander
11-01-2007, 12:48 PM
Who said, we are controlling the world? Whoever said that is lying to themselves, lol.
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 12:48 PM
They're trying to figure out our plot to take over the world. They're afraid of us.
Hmmm.... :thinking: Note to self: *INTJs display tendency towards paranoia.
No. I'm just being realistic.
I thought you were just being funny, because I laughed.
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
LOL...of course I know you are joking. If you really had that much paranoia, you wouldn't be on this thread - you would be locked in some clinical setting all doped up on psych meds.
The bantering was fun, thanks! :thumbsup:
The Rose
11-01-2007, 12:52 PM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
I got the I_TJ, but the N stumps me. I'm trying to understand the N. You might be too close to the cusp to tell, but the ISTJs I know are traditional types. They tend to like old things or antiques. They tend to like to "preserve tradition" and to the same extent, they tend to "resist change".
Does that sound like you at the core?
Relationships are important to them, whereas the INTJ is fiercely independent.
ISTJs are great to have on your team when playing Trivial Pursuit.
The Rose
11-01-2007, 12:56 PM
...
I can appreciate the concept of 'alone but not lonely' as there have been plenty of times in my life when I thoroughly enjoyed not seeing or speaking to another human being for a day or two. But after a day or two, I realize that I need to have people in my life whether I want to or not - for work, for home projects, etc. So for me, it's a matter of finding balance between the 'alone time' and having people around. But INTJs could live on an island (literally) and never have a need for another human being? You don't have the need for even a buddy on that island?You sound like you are probably more S than N.
(And I am only saying so because your profile says ISTJ.)
You need a nice INFP in your life to make life interesting. ;)
I know of several happy ISTJ/INFP combination couples.
The Rose
11-01-2007, 12:59 PM
...As an INTJ I would hazard a guess and say that I could do quite nicely stranded on an island by myself - thank you very much.
Me, too! :thumbsup:
rwyatt365
11-01-2007, 01:02 PM
[quote=wolf]of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
LOL...of course I know you are joking. *If you really had that much paranoia, you wouldn't be on this thread - you would be locked in some clinical setting all doped up on psych meds.
The bantering was fun, thanks! :thumbsup:
A joke?! That was a joke? *:-? *:o
So I can put away my aluminum cap?
cielo market
11-01-2007, 01:06 PM
[quote=wolf]of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
LOL...of course I know you are joking. *If you really had that much paranoia, you wouldn't be on this thread - you would be locked in some clinical setting all doped up on psych meds.
The bantering was fun, thanks! :thumbsup:
A joke?! That was a joke? *:-? *:o
So I can put away my aluminum cap?
They haven't gotten the memo. It's still on. *[smiley=smartass.gif]
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
So... Your volcano or mine?
thegnat
11-01-2007, 01:06 PM
They're trying to figure out our plot to take over the world. They're afraid of us.
Hmmm.... :thinking: Note to self: INTJs display tendency towards paranoia.
No. I'm just being realistic.
I thought you were just being funny, because I laughed.
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
LOL...of course I know you are joking. If you really had that much paranoia, you wouldn't be on this thread - you would be locked in some clinical setting all doped up on psych meds.
The bantering was fun, thanks! :thumbsup:
Good good :thumbsup:
You are very welcome ;) It's my kind of style, at least today to not be totally serious.
thegnat
11-01-2007, 01:08 PM
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
So... Your volcano or mine?
ours. I get 75% of the lava though. You can have the rocks. I'll find something to do with the lava.
rwyatt365
11-01-2007, 01:10 PM
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
So... *Your volcano or mine?
ours. *I get 75% of the lava though. *You can have the rocks. I'll find something to do with the lava.
Just like an INTJ to start doling out percentages and setting out conditions! ::)
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
So... Your volcano or mine?
ours. I get 75% of the lava though. You can have the rocks. I'll find something to do with the lava.
Make more rocks?
It's a deal, as long as I get the main ICBM silo.
thegnat
11-01-2007, 01:18 PM
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
So... Your volcano or mine?
ours. I get 75% of the lava though. You can have the rocks. I'll find something to do with the lava.
Just like an INTJ to start doling out percentages and setting out conditions! ::)
Hm. I suppose that's true. Oh well. I guess I fit the type.
But I'm being nice as there could be some diamonds in those rocks. but i dunno. I'm in the mood for lava.
I want to make a *TRUE* lava lamp. Wouldn't that be freakin sweet? And it'll be HUGE.
OneBadMother
11-01-2007, 01:21 PM
Hey, give the rocks to me! I'm a geology person, I don't even care if there are diamonds in them or not. :thumbsup:
rwyatt365
11-01-2007, 01:24 PM
I want to make a *TRUE* lava lamp. *Wouldn't that be freakin sweet? *And it'll be HUGE.
Sweeeet!
"Hey dude, check out my LAVA lamp" [smiley=beatnik.gif]
I wonder how you would heat such a thing without the wires used for heating it melting...
A real lava lamp would be really cool, though a bit toasty for most environments.
OneBadMother
11-01-2007, 01:35 PM
Hey, the earth already acts as one giant lava lamp. The only thing we'd need to do is make the crust transparent somehow. :D
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 01:46 PM
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
So... *Your volcano or mine?
ours. *I get 75% of the lava though. *You can have the rocks. I'll find something to do with the lava.
Just like an INTJ to start doling out percentages and setting out conditions! *::)
YES!!! Amen to that statement. I've noticed it a lot with the few INTJs I know. Why do you folks do that? And what is the expected reaction from us non-INTJs?
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 01:52 PM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
I got the I_TJ, but the N stumps me. *I'm trying to understand the N. *You might be too close to the cusp to tell, but the ISTJs I know are traditional types. They tend to like old things or antiques. They tend to like to "preserve tradition" and to the same extent, they tend to "resist change".
Does that sound like you at the core?
Relationships are important to them, whereas the INTJ is fiercely independent.
ISTJs are great to have on your team when playing Trivial Pursuit.
I like to celebrate the holidays - but I don't care where I am when celebrating.
I have some friendships that go back 20 years that I don't want to give up; but I'm more than willing to give up my old couch, instead of being like my sister who would recover her old couch.
I've moved several times since graduating college. I've rented, then owned, then rented again.
Trivial Pursuit - I love that game!
Maybe my S/N is close.
Thanks for the input.
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 01:58 PM
...
I can appreciate the concept of 'alone but not lonely' as there have been plenty of times in my life when I thoroughly enjoyed not seeing or speaking to another human being for a day or two. *But after a day or two, I realize that I need to have people in my life whether I want to or not - for work, for home projects, etc. *So for me, it's a matter of finding balance between the 'alone time' and having people around. *But INTJs could live on an island (literally) and never have a need for another human being? *You don't have the need for even a buddy on that island?You sound like you are probably more S than N.
(And I am only saying so because your profile says ISTJ.)
You need a nice INFP in your life to make life interesting. *;)
I know of several happy ISTJ/INFP combination couples.
I might as well give up then. INFPs are more scarce than INTJs (at least in my part of the world.) :-/
No, we're not. We're trying to prevent you from taking over the world because it belongs to us.
Emmm... You're just a mere mortal.
We (INTJ's) are the meaning of the universe...
ps: Lets face it... you're just a wannabe (voyer :P) INTJ..
chunes
11-01-2007, 04:01 PM
I came here because I am very frustrated with my type. I wish I were INTJ or ISTJ. Or maybe even ISTP. Just anything other than this curse. :(
pointless nostalgia
11-01-2007, 04:31 PM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
INTJs are interesting to me... the way you guys explain things just make sense. I would be stuck thinking about random things without ever being able to come to a conclusion if I wasn't around NTJs. Also, reading the discussions on here, as well as on *****, help me better understand my NT friends. :)
HarleyQuinn
11-01-2007, 04:41 PM
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
So... Your volcano or mine?
ours. I get 75% of the lava though. You can have the rocks. I'll find something to do with the lava.
Just like an INTJ to start doling out percentages and setting out conditions! ::)
YES!!! Amen to that statement. I've noticed it a lot with the few INTJs I know. Why do you folks do that? And what is the expected reaction from us non-INTJs?
Because we believe we know what's best for you and you should just accept it by following our guidelines? :P
I know for myself anyway, it's because I've already logically thought of almost (if not all) of the scenarios of the situation and worked out the best benefit to both (or more) parties. Then I don't want to be pestered by questions I've already mentally answered myself so I just go ahead and give the other person the final consensus and skip the "what if X happens" part.
thegnat
11-01-2007, 09:37 PM
xtremegeek said:
YES!!! Amen to that statement. I've noticed it a lot with the few INTJs I know. Why do you folks do that? And what is the expected reaction from us non-INTJs?
We also like efficiency. Inefficiency bugs the hell out of us.
I've had that happen twice in lab now.
So I already have it planned out for next Wednesday.
My plan:
Tuesday night I'll make up the solutions for the second set, maybe do calculations for another metal/quencher combination in case people want to do it. Wednesday people A and B can start taking measurements of the data of solution set 2. While people C and D can work on preparing solution set 3. Then people C and D can work up data for solution set 3 while people A and B will start making solution set 4. Then A and B can work up that data while C and D can start putting all the data into manageable graphs.
Now just doesn't that sound efficient and great?
The Rose
11-01-2007, 10:00 PM
...I might as well give up then. INFPs are more scarce than INTJs (at least in my part of the world.) :-/Aww. Don't give up. Hang in there. You'll find someone nice to share your life with.
If anyone ever doubted that thegnat was an INTJ, they need doubt no longer after that post.
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 10:21 PM
...I might as well give up then. *INFPs are more scarce than INTJs (at least in my part of the world.) :-/Aww. Don't give up. Hang in there. You'll find someone nice to share your life with.
Thanks. I sure hope so because I'm not like INTJs. I really do need a buddy to share my life with. I can't live on an island by myself...one other person on the island is all I really need.
xtremegeek
11-01-2007, 10:27 PM
xtremegeek said:
YES!!! Amen to that statement. I've noticed it a lot with the few INTJs I know. Why do you folks do that? And what is the expected reaction from us non-INTJs?
We also like efficiency. *Inefficiency bugs the hell out of us.
I've had that happen twice in lab now.
So I already have it planned out for next Wednesday.
My plan:
Tuesday night I'll make up the solutions for the second set, maybe do calculations for another metal/quencher combination in case people want to do it. Wednesday people A and B can start taking measurements of the data of solution set 2. *While people C and D can work on preparing solution set 3. *Then people C and D can work up data for solution set 3 while people A and B will start making solution set 4. *Then A and B can work up that data while C and D can start putting all the data into manageable graphs. *
Now just doesn't that sound efficient and great?
If I were your lab partner, and you presented me with that, I would say, "I'm going to go get some hotwings and beer. Do what you want!" ::)
thegnat
11-01-2007, 10:55 PM
If I were your lab partner, and you presented me with that, I would say, "I'm going to go get some hotwings and beer. Do what you want!" ::)
There's a 90% chance that won't happen and I most likely won't even mention it because I know people won't follow it and it'll end up working like this:
I won't make the solutions because I'll be lazy. So we'll all get involved in making the solutions, person B will sit at the computer of the UV-vis, I'll get the cuvette ready, it'll go in the UV-vis, then I'll take the cuvette and put it in the fluorimeter and tell person B integration data (as person B is already designated Data Meister) while people C and D do nothing (what happened last week). Maybe C and D will make the 3rd solution set(modified from last week and ideal). while we take data. Depends on how motivated they are. Then the process will repeat over again.....
We have 3 hours. We can either a) go on last week's pace after we screwed up and get a set done in about an hour and a half. Which means we'll be there an hour and a half longer than 4pm. Not good. b) Do a slightly modified version of last week and C and D will make solutions while we pound out data and perhaps get out in 3 hours. or c) go uber-efficient and get out in under 3 hours.
Damn I really am such an INTJ hehe
Nomad
11-02-2007, 12:55 AM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
I got the I_TJ, but the N stumps me. I'm trying to understand the N.
What we know comes in under the radar. Our minds continually, constantly, without rest or respite, free associate. A human could not possibly articulate our thought process, too much is involved. Everything in my head is connected to every other, and all things are used. Our decisions and thoughts and conclusions come in gestalt, them we go back and put it in order so others can understand our conclusion. Our odds of making a good decision very quickly are very high, and the more information we have, the faster it comes.
-Nomad
So do you tell yourself that you are relegated to a very lonely life unless you hook up with another INTJ? Or do you learn to like lesser mortals?
I actually like other people quite a bit, I find most people interesting and I don't believe there is such a thing as a lesser mortal, we just have different strengths and weaknesses. Not being able to articulate a thought process is a disadvantage, in my book. I do need my space. Robert B Parker's character Spenser has an ideal relationship. Monogamous, long term and they live in separate homes.
BTW, I love camping, long thru hikes and I found survival school so interesting that I forgot that I was supposed to be psychologically stressed by my isolation. I admit to being lonely sometimes, but it's not the kind of thing I dwell on at all. I could live on an island for years and be fine. It is nice to have someone to talk to. Provides stimulus.
I was just trying to explain how the intuitive part of our thought process works.
-Nomad
Solaris
11-02-2007, 01:57 AM
I come here because I seem to have known an unusually high number of INTJ's. I don't just mean that I've run across a lot of you, I mean I've had a lot of close friends that turned out to be INTJ. So I'm here to understand them a bit more. However, I guess that's not really a problem is it? If I didn't "get" INTJ's, I wouldn't have had so many as close friends. Whatever, I just like INTJs and INTJs seem to like me then.
cielo market
11-02-2007, 02:11 AM
*reads comments*
Okay... I know I'm not the only INTJ getting an ego-boost from other types wanting to know more about ours. Call it arrogance, but you don't hear vice-versa ::)
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 02:29 AM
No, we're not. We're trying to prevent you from taking over the world because it belongs to us.
Emmm... You're just a mere mortal.
We (INTJ's) are the meaning of the universe...
ps: Lets face it... you're just a wannabe (voyer *:P) INTJ..
No, sorry to burst your bubble, but I have no wish of becoming an INTJ. :P
I'm serious about that, actually. Even before I found out about the MBTI, I was already fascinated with INTJish people, and wanted to know more about them... But I never desired to be them. And anyway, I'm not a mere mortal, I'm the queen, and gods don't exist.
My type has more fun, nyah nyah. ;D
Solaris
11-02-2007, 03:03 AM
*reads comments*
Okay... I know I'm not the only INTJ getting an ego-boost from other types wanting to know more about ours. Call it arrogance, but you don't hear vice-versa ::)
Well, I don't know. These INTJ's usually find me more than I find them. I wouldn't want to be an INTJ, I really love social interaction more than your average INTJ does. I quite like being an ENTJ.
pointless nostalgia
11-02-2007, 03:26 AM
*reads comments*
Okay... I know I'm not the only INTJ getting an ego-boost from other types wanting to know more about ours. Call it arrogance, but you don't hear vice-versa ::)
Well, I don't know. These INTJ's usually find me more than I find them. I wouldn't want to be an INTJ, I really love social interaction more than your average INTJ does. I quite like being an ENTJ.
I have several close INTJ friends, and each one of them initiated the friendship. :P
rwyatt365
11-02-2007, 08:32 AM
No, we're not. We're trying to prevent you from taking over the world because it belongs to us.
Emmm... You're just a mere mortal.
We (INTJ's) are the meaning of the universe...
ps: Lets face it... you're just a wannabe (voyer *:P) INTJ..
No, sorry to burst your bubble, but I have no wish of becoming an INTJ. :P
I'm serious about that, actually. Even before I found out about the MBTI, I was already fascinated with INTJish people, and wanted to know more about them... But I never desired to be them. And anyway, I'm not a mere mortal, I'm the queen, and gods don't exist.
My type has more fun, nyah nyah. ;D
So you admit it! You are fascinated by the "INTJ"! The INTJ has captivated you and lured you into it's lair! You will succumb, you will comply, you will acquiesce!
The INTJ has bent the will of the queen to it's purposes!
The INTJ reigns!! Bwahahahaha [smiley=crowngrin.gif]
NOW who's having more fun :P [smiley=clown.gif]
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 09:20 AM
If I were your lab partner, and you presented me with that, I would say, "I'm going to go get some hotwings and beer. *Do what you want!" ::)
There's a 90% chance that won't happen and I most likely won't even mention it because I know people won't follow it and it'll end up working like this:
I won't make the solutions because I'll be lazy. *So we'll all get involved in making the solutions, person B will sit at the computer of the UV-vis, I'll get the cuvette ready, it'll go in the UV-vis, then I'll take the cuvette and put it in the fluorimeter and tell person B integration data (as person B is already designated Data Meister) while people C and D do nothing (what happened last week). * Maybe C and D will make the 3rd solution set(modified from last week and ideal). *while we take data. *Depends on how motivated they are. *Then the process will repeat over again.....
We have 3 hours. *We can either a) go on last week's pace after we screwed up and get a set done in about an hour and a half. Which means we'll be there an hour and a half longer than 4pm. *Not good. *b) Do a slightly modified version of last week and C and D will make solutions while we pound out data and perhaps get out in 3 hours. or c) go uber-efficient and get out in under 3 hours.
Damn I really am such an INTJ hehe
Uber-INTJ
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 09:24 AM
of course I was. ;) I'm glad *someone* laughed. I wanted to see if xtremegeek would get it that I wasn't being serious.....
So... *Your volcano or mine?
ours. *I get 75% of the lava though. *You can have the rocks. I'll find something to do with the lava.
Just like an INTJ to start doling out percentages and setting out conditions! *::)
YES!!! Amen to that statement. *I've noticed it a lot with the few INTJs I know. *Why do you folks do that? *And what is the expected reaction from us non-INTJs?
Because we believe we know what's best for you and you should just accept it by following our guidelines? *:P
I know for myself anyway, it's because I've already logically thought of almost (if not all) of the scenarios of the situation and worked out the best benefit to both (or more) parties. *Then I don't want to be pestered by questions I've already mentally answered myself so I just go ahead and give the other person the final consensus and skip the "what if X happens" part.
Yuck! "just accept it" my arse! I'll put up a fight, if for no other reason than to combat the boredom of the approach. A little spice never hurt an INTJ - sounds like you INTJs may need a little spice in your lives.
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 09:33 AM
No, we're not. We're trying to prevent you from taking over the world because it belongs to us.
Emmm... You're just a mere mortal.
We (INTJ's) are the meaning of the universe...
ps: Lets face it... you're just a wannabe (voyer *:P) INTJ..
No, sorry to burst your bubble, but I have no wish of becoming an INTJ. :P
I'm serious about that, actually. Even before I found out about the MBTI, I was already fascinated with INTJish people, and wanted to know more about them... But I never desired to be them. And anyway, I'm not a mere mortal, I'm the queen, and gods don't exist.
My type has more fun, nyah nyah. ;D
So you admit it! You are fascinated by the "INTJ"! The INTJ has captivated you and lured you into it's lair! You will succumb, you will comply, you will acquiesce!
The INTJ has bent the will of the queen to it's purposes!
The INTJ reigns!! Bwahahahaha *[smiley=crowngrin.gif]
NOW who's having more fun *:P [smiley=clown.gif]
Heh heh, I come here in order to understand my subjects so that I can manipulate them better. ;) I will not succumb, I have my royal guards: the other INTPs on this forum.
Since you seem to be having so much fun, I shall make you the royal Jester![smiley=clown.gif] Bow down in awe and reverence, minion!
(ps I love the way the quotes keep adding up... :D)
rwyatt365
11-02-2007, 09:34 AM
Because we believe we know what's best for you and you should just accept it by following our guidelines? *:P
I know for myself anyway, it's because I've already logically thought of almost (if not all) of the scenarios of the situation and worked out the best benefit to both (or more) parties. *Then I don't want to be pestered by questions I've already mentally answered myself so I just go ahead and give the other person the final consensus and skip the "what if X happens" part.
Yuck! *"just accept it" my arse! *I'll put up a fight, if for no other reason than to combat the boredom of the approach. *A little spice never hurt an INTJ - sounds like you INTJs may need a little spice in your lives.
*draws battle-axe of logic and shield of rationalization* We accept your challenge! Prepare to defend thyself Sir Geek!! ;)
xtremegeek said:
YES!!! Amen to that statement. I've noticed it a lot with the few INTJs I know. Why do you folks do that? And what is the expected reaction from us non-INTJs?
We also like efficiency. *Inefficiency bugs the hell out of us.
I've had that happen twice in lab now.
So I already have it planned out for next Wednesday.
My plan:
Tuesday night I'll make up the solutions for the second set, maybe do calculations for another metal/quencher combination in case people want to do it. Wednesday people A and B can start taking measurements of the data of solution set 2. *While people C and D can work on preparing solution set 3. *Then people C and D can work up data for solution set 3 while people A and B will start making solution set 4. *Then A and B can work up that data while C and D can start putting all the data into manageable graphs. *
Now just doesn't that sound efficient and great?
That’s the thing with INTJ’s. We are masters at efficient action. What you are saying is observable in many occupations. Take project management, which is always time bounded, the sensors will just follow the process and seem to be oblivious to the fact that the end date may not be met, whereas the INTJ will step back and bring the whole chain into focus and assess points for time reduction etc.
The absolute acid test is whether someone can see the end point and step back through the process to the current point and devise contingencies for probabilistic type events that may happen along the future path. The sensors… will just inch forward and solve problems as they meet them.
ShaiGar
11-02-2007, 09:45 AM
I'm probably one of the Blatant non-INTJ's.
I come here because I enjoy your stuffiness.
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 09:48 AM
Because we believe we know what's best for you and you should just accept it by following our guidelines? *:P
I know for myself anyway, it's because I've already logically thought of almost (if not all) of the scenarios of the situation and worked out the best benefit to both (or more) parties. *Then I don't want to be pestered by questions I've already mentally answered myself so I just go ahead and give the other person the final consensus and skip the "what if X happens" part.
Yuck! *"just accept it" my arse! *I'll put up a fight, if for no other reason than to combat the boredom of the approach. *A little spice never hurt an INTJ - sounds like you INTJs may need a little spice in your lives.
*draws battle-axe of logic and shield of rationalization* We accept your challenge! Prepare to defend thyself Sir Geek!! *;)
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! :P
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 09:56 AM
Because we believe we know what's best for you and you should just accept it by following our guidelines? *:P
I know for myself anyway, it's because I've already logically thought of almost (if not all) of the scenarios of the situation and worked out the best benefit to both (or more) parties. *Then I don't want to be pestered by questions I've already mentally answered myself so I just go ahead and give the other person the final consensus and skip the "what if X happens" part.
Yuck! *"just accept it" my arse! *I'll put up a fight, if for no other reason than to combat the boredom of the approach. *A little spice never hurt an INTJ - sounds like you INTJs may need a little spice in your lives.
*draws battle-axe of logic and shield of rationalization* We accept your challenge! Prepare to defend thyself Sir Geek!! *;)
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! *:P
Oooh, I spawned a daughter without knowing it?? :scared:
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:04 AM
Because we believe we know what's best for you and you should just accept it by following our guidelines? *:P
I know for myself anyway, it's because I've already logically thought of almost (if not all) of the scenarios of the situation and worked out the best benefit to both (or more) parties. *Then I don't want to be pestered by questions I've already mentally answered myself so I just go ahead and give the other person the final consensus and skip the "what if X happens" part.
Yuck! *"just accept it" my arse! *I'll put up a fight, if for no other reason than to combat the boredom of the approach. *A little spice never hurt an INTJ - sounds like you INTJs may need a little spice in your lives.
*draws battle-axe of logic and shield of rationalization* We accept your challenge! Prepare to defend thyself Sir Geek!! *;)
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! *:P
Oooh, I spawned a daughter without knowing it?? :scared:
Don't worry. I'm fully potty trained and already have my library card. I won't be a disgrace to the royal lineage. :thumbsup:
rwyatt365
11-02-2007, 10:05 AM
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! *:P
"Sir" just implies knighthood - I was bestowing honor upon you. *;)
But if you wish the royal platitudes then "Your Royal Highness". Still, have at it!! *;D
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:07 AM
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! *:P
"Sir" just implies knighthood - I was bestowing honor upon you. *;)
But if you wish the royal platitudes then "Your Royal Highness". Still, have at it!! *;D
Bring it on Sir...er, um, cough...what's your title?
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 10:08 AM
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! *:P
"Sir" just implies knighthood - I was bestowing honor upon you. *;)
But if you wish the royal platitudes then "Your Royal Highness". Still, have at it!! *;D
Bring it on Sir...er, um, cough...what's your title?
He's the Court Jester! :D
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:10 AM
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! *:P
"Sir" just implies knighthood - I was bestowing honor upon you. *;)
But if you wish the royal platitudes then "Your Royal Highness". Still, have at it!! *;D
Bring it on Sir...er, um, cough...what's your title?
He's the Court Jester! *:D
he he he...those are fightin' words! Long live the Queen!!! ;D
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 10:16 AM
he he he...those are fightin' words! *Long live the Queen!!! * ;D
Bah! What are you doing standing around cheering? Go do your duties!
rwyatt365
11-02-2007, 10:16 AM
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! *:P
"Sir" just implies knighthood - I was bestowing honor upon you. *;)
But if you wish the royal platitudes then "Your Royal Highness". Still, have at it!! *;D
Bring it on Sir...er, um, cough...what's your title?
He's the Court Jester! *:D
he he he...those are fightin' words! *Long live the Queen!!! * ;D
Beg pardon maam's...I am Sir Wyatt of INTJ, protector of the realm, defender of logic, upholder of all that is rational. Ye shall pay for bespoiling my lineage!! Arm thyself :scared:
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:18 AM
he he he...those are fightin' words! *Long live the Queen!!! * ;D
Bah! What are you doing standing around cheering? Go do your duties!
Ooops! gotta run...swoosh~~~
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:20 AM
My title should be Her Royal Highness, the Geek! *:P
"Sir" just implies knighthood - I was bestowing honor upon you. *;)
But if you wish the royal platitudes then "Your Royal Highness". Still, have at it!! *;D
Bring it on Sir...er, um, cough...what's your title?
He's the Court Jester! *:D
he he he...those are fightin' words! *Long live the Queen!!! * ;D
Beg pardon maam's...I am Sir Wyatt of INTJ, protector of the realm, defender of logic, upholder of all that is rational. Ye shall pay for bespoiling my lineage!! Arm thyself *:scared:
:-/ With what? All I have is my mind...up against an INTJ, I'm like David. Oh wait, David beat Goliath. Never mind. Bring it on Sir Wyatt of INTJ!
rwyatt365
11-02-2007, 10:26 AM
:-/ With what? *All I have is my mind...up against an INTJ, I'm like David. *Oh wait, David beat Goliath.
...with stones - yes, but not with brains!
Bring it on Sir Wyatt of INTJ!
But wait...you...me...87% compatible...I'm a thinker not a fighter. *[smiley=scholar.gif]
"Why Can't We Be Friends" - War (mid '70s?)
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:34 AM
:-/ With what? *All I have is my mind...up against an INTJ, I'm like David. *Oh wait, David beat Goliath.
...with stones - yes, but not with brains!
I disagree. David was smart enough to calculate that one shot landing in that spot would kill Goliath. It was the calculation which killed Goliath.
Bring it on Sir Wyatt of INTJ!
But wait...you...me...87% compatible...I'm a thinker not a fighter. *[smiley=scholar.gif]
"Why Can't We Be Friends" - War (mid '70s?)
Huh? You are waving a white flag already. Sheesh, I was just getting started. What's a gal to do...all ready for war and no one to fight with. OK, we'll have peace if that's what you really want...after all I am an ISTJ - peacemaking and officiating are my game.
rwyatt365
11-02-2007, 10:43 AM
:-/ With what? *All I have is my mind...up against an INTJ, I'm like David. *Oh wait, David beat Goliath.
...with stones - yes, but not with brains!
I disagree. *David was smart enough to calculate that one shot landing in that spot would kill Goliath. *It was the calculation which killed Goliath.
Bring it on Sir Wyatt of INTJ!
But wait...you...me...87% compatible...I'm a thinker not a fighter. *[smiley=scholar.gif]
"Why Can't We Be Friends" - War (mid '70s?)
Huh? *You are waving a white flag already. *Sheesh, I was just getting started. *What's a gal to do...all ready for war and no one to fight with. *OK, we'll have peace if that's what you really want...after all I am an ISTJ - peacemaking and officiating are my game.
Tactical withdrawal, typical INTJ feint. Gets you off your guard then *BLAMMO*, out cold. [smiley=faint.gif]
Be afraid, be very afraid! ;)
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 10:50 AM
*Sits in front of the screen with popcorn* [smiley=popcorn.gif]
Make it a bloody fight! * :D
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:53 AM
:-/ With what? *All I have is my mind...up against an INTJ, I'm like David. *Oh wait, David beat Goliath.
...with stones - yes, but not with brains!
I disagree. *David was smart enough to calculate that one shot landing in that spot would kill Goliath. *It was the calculation which killed Goliath.
Bring it on Sir Wyatt of INTJ!
But wait...you...me...87% compatible...I'm a thinker not a fighter. *[smiley=scholar.gif]
"Why Can't We Be Friends" - War (mid '70s?)
Huh? *You are waving a white flag already. *Sheesh, I was just getting started. *What's a gal to do...all ready for war and no one to fight with. *OK, we'll have peace if that's what you really want...after all I am an ISTJ - peacemaking and officiating are my game.
Tactical withdrawal, typical INTJ feint. Gets you off your guard then *BLAMMO*, out cold. *[smiley=faint.gif]
Be afraid, be very afraid! *;)
Believe me! I have a healthy fear of INTJs. But, there is safety in numbers, and the SJs greatly outnumber the NTs. (hmm...why is that, I wonder :thinking: Darwin's theory, I guess.)
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:54 AM
*Sits in front of the screen with popcorn* [smiley=popcorn.gif]
Make it a bloody fight! * :D
Well now, aren't you going to share some of that popcorn?
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 10:57 AM
*Sits in front of the screen with popcorn* [smiley=popcorn.gif]
Make it a bloody fight! * :D
Well now, aren't you going to share some of that popcorn?
Noooo!! Get over there and fight!
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 10:59 AM
*Sits in front of the screen with popcorn* [smiley=popcorn.gif]
Make it a bloody fight! * :D
Well now, aren't you going to share some of that popcorn?
Noooo!! Get over there and fight!
But what about my union contract? Oh, never mind...
Sir Wyatt of INTJ, the Queen does not accept your proposed peace plan (sorry buddy I tried.) Therefore, let the war commence!
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 11:02 AM
This is the real reason why other types come here. To drive INTJs nuts. :)
Mission succeeded.
(Just thought I'd put that there so that things don't seem too off topic...)
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 11:05 AM
This is the real reason why other types come here. To drive INTJs nuts. :)
Mission succeeded.
(Just thought I'd put that there so that things don't seem too off topic...)
True statement ;) If I can figure out what drives an INTJ nuts, I'd be a happy camper.
rwyatt365
11-02-2007, 11:12 AM
If I start to fight, then the bloodlust comes out and women, children and small animals are not safe. *:scared:
This is the real reason why other types come here. To drive INTJs nuts. :)
Mission succeeded.
(Just thought I'd put that there so that things don't seem too off topic...)
True statement *;) *If I can figure out what drives an INTJ nuts, I'd be a happy camper. *
Want to drive an INTJ nuts? *:-?
Ask them, "What do you think about...", and then ignore their answer - or worse tell them they're wrong.
Raven Queen
11-02-2007, 11:14 AM
So, rwyatt... What do you think about sex in relationships?
xtremegeek
11-02-2007, 11:18 AM
So, rwyatt... What do you think about sex in relationships?
LOL...twisted! I like it.
rwyatt365
11-02-2007, 11:24 AM
So, rwyatt... What do you think about sex in relationships?
Read this thread (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 2 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.), you can ignore me there. * ;)
Evalind
11-02-2007, 07:13 PM
I have a healthy fear of INTJs. But, there is safety in numbers, and the SJs greatly outnumber the NTs. (hmm...why is that, I wonder :thinking: Darwin's theory, I guess.)
This got my brain all tingly... reproduction (and all things that go along with it) is probably easier mentally for those who're doing less thinking & planning, thinking & re-planning, and thinking & re-re-planning. If natural selection favored INTJs we'd be a vastly more intelligent species. ;) :P
I have a healthy fear of INTJs. *But, there is safety in numbers, and the SJs greatly outnumber the NTs. (hmm...why is that, I wonder :thinking: Darwin's theory, I guess.)
This got my brain all tingly... reproduction (and all things that go along with it) is probably easier mentally for those who're doing less thinking & planning, thinking & re-planning, and thinking & re-re-planning. If natural selection favored INTJs we'd be a vastly more intelligent species. ;) :P
Don't worry... Gobal warming will f*ck em... *;D
The INTJ's will have made bunkers to save them from the searing heat... The F's will be running around trying to save everyone.. F*ck em. *The P's will be bumping into each other as they try to save themselves.. Doh doh.. he he.. F*ck em. Sure its the S's that will build the shelters... but we'll close the door before they can get in... F*ck em..
Yip, a brave new world. INTJ. *;D
Don't believe us...... *:-X
chocky
11-03-2007, 07:33 AM
I'm here for the same reasons as OneBadMother
I come here because INTP Central is too large and intimidating of a beast. Also, to gain greater understanding of the INTJ I know.
Plus, the people here make for interesting conversation.
And I agree with Harry too. The tone of *********** is decidedly small-minded. Anti-intellectual even. Ideas play second fiddle to highschool popularity politics.
HeterodoxRobot
11-16-2007, 11:46 PM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
Mating instincts, curiosity, my incessant need to partake in pleasurable acts of procrastination...
Aestheticbend
11-17-2007, 01:03 AM
They want to see if we're really robots or not.
My money is on this! :irked:
niffer
11-17-2007, 02:46 AM
Actually, I was invited.
I'm staying here because I love all you INTJs so. I does. :lovestruck:
AresX9
11-17-2007, 02:48 AM
The others don't want to be trampled when the INTJs finally build their robot army to take over the world, that's why.
(Sounds like something an ENTJ would do...)
godshadowdeath
11-21-2007, 01:15 AM
Wow, 20hrs-24hrs, spending on the computer. hmm, yeah the P side is the reason for that. For me, there is a stop, too much is not so good. What kind of games? or are you referring to mind games? Nope, we are no. 1, lol. Unless, we meet our own counterpart, then there would be a compromise so we both are no.1's.
i think 20 to 24 hours is somewhat normal when not going to school. then again I am a natural 72w 24s.
deicruxified
11-21-2007, 02:56 AM
They want to see if we're really robots or not.
or probably try to find out if we got in here our blue prints of our world domination plan...
how do i cancel my account here?
lol joke
Darklord
11-21-2007, 03:08 AM
True statement ;) If I can figure out what drives an INTJ nuts, I'd be a happy camper.
Don't try to fool yourself, you'd still only be a *sad animal*.
*Frumples*
I come here because I find INTJs to be calmer and more rational than most other types, world domination notwithstanding.
Yes, I just admitted that I like INTJs better than INTPs. Deal with it, but remember - that opinion is open for revision should the need arise.
deicruxified
11-21-2007, 03:53 AM
YES!!! Amen to that statement. I've noticed it a lot with the few INTJs I know. Why do you folks do that? And what is the expected reaction from us non-INTJs?
yes i do that a lot - mentioning percentages when i plan. but then my "s" friends would often complain, "give me exact data bitch!!" but i can't because i can never judge the outcome. percentages help a lot in prior planning. most of the time i have plans 'til "d". just recently, we're planning to sack our stuff from home and stay in the wilderness for almost 2 weeks so just to give ourselves a christmas gift that is - away with people. the actual case is, alma mater's official mountaineering club sent us an invite to join their mid year climb this coming dec 19-22 in a level 2 climb in a province somewhere in the south. let's call this "a". then we were also planning a climb-spelunking trip in the northern part of the country on dec 26-31. let's call this "b". we are also considering an option to join both so let's call this "c". my hypothesis is:
given the factors present in our environment i.e. kill-joy (asian) parents who wants to spend with their kids this christmas, ssdd jobs, budget constraints and pending school/college projects, there's a 60% chance that we might just pick either a or b
so what now after the hypothesis? i do the plan. but before i go there, what are the pros, cons and draws?
[blah blah blah...]
after identifying the pros, cons and draws, i check on my team and try to speculate a foresight of the possible situations, try to think how they think...
1. what's their budget?
2. are they working/studying
3. do they have kj parents
4. are they fit for the activity
5. their preference (if i can persuade them to mine, better hehehe joke)
and so on...
then i go for whatever possible plans i could think of to the extent of even including the most absurd and unrealistic of them all. plan a would be most favorable to all minus all the possible problemsl should there be any easy possible solutions found. then c... z the least... after whatever solutions i can think of but would still fail to push through with a. most of the time, i only reveal plan a, b and c then d.....z i keep it to myself for the following reasons
1. to surprise people when i act in a spur of the moment (hehehehe)
2. could easily alter c-z in my mind once another issue rises up
3. guessing game: for my team mates to draw for themselves plans d-z from their minds especially the "s" people so when they make contingenicy plans which they think i don't know, but i know already, i still know how to catch up with them.
going back, the plans are:
1. plan a: do "c"
2. plan b: do "a"
3. plan c: do "b"
each plan has sub plans i.e. a.a, a.b, a.c... but that would take eons to explain so let's skip it. then later, i set up a meeting with them and i present plan a-c and let them add other possible pros, cons and draws. from there, i let them decide. whatever their decision maybe, all is favorable since i have sub-plans just to steer the situation a bit so as to be organized. it's still better for a lead to present the top plans so as for them to make a choice and alter them the way they want (sometimes they give other insights as well) so we remodel or debunk a plan. i find it to my advantage to let my team mates have a choice because they work best when they like what they are doing (and if something stupid happens, i am in the right position the blame them all for being so gullible nyahahahahaha... joke) once they've made a choice, i follow and observe how things are going and will be going in the long run. then if something fucks up, i get whatever possible solutions from what i speculated in my other back-up plans.
yeah there.... so i therefore conclude percentages helps. you can't get a clear-cut view of what the actual situation would be like so you set the ideas in percentages then plan on possible actions on percentages so when you're on the field, your mind has planty of ammunition.
hohoho merry christmas!
stasis
11-21-2007, 01:48 PM
What attracts you to this place anyways? I'm just curious, this is not me trying to say get off the forum or anything but I'm just wondering why.
There are four equally important things that attract me to a messageboard: the activity level of the community, the topics under debate, the character of that debate, and the qualities of the board administration.
To begin with, then, this messageboard caters to a broad range of subjects - to include politics, philosophy, psychology and sociology, technology, and art. These are some of my favorite internet topics. Second, this board's selling point is its aesthetic focus upon the INTJ type. I've found that the character of debate amongst INTx types, be it in terms of intellectual substance, knowledge, logical incisivenesses, or even novel antagonism, has a greater chance of retaining my attention than that found amongst communities mostly populated by other types. And finally, the qualities of the board administration appear to be of a great standard. There is competent and interested attention being paid to the graphical presentation of the board; to the social maintenance of the board, with respect to the future operation; and to the actual functionality of board policy to these ends.
Therefore, I find it worth a look.
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