How extreme are you?

[The Rose]

I am such an extreme INTJ that I named my children in alphabetical order!

I used to keep my spice rack and all my record albums in alphabetical order, too,
but I don't have time for that anymore.

I am such an extreme INTJ that when my first 2 kids were born on a holiday,
I insisted that I have my C-Section for the 3rd one on a holiday, too!

I have heard of a guy who sorts out all his M&Ms by color,
and eats the colors in a certain order,
but I am not that bad.

[Firelie]

I arrange my M&Ms and eat them in a specific order. If one of the piles of color isn't the same number as the rest, I eat the amount of them that will make them equal, then after that I eat one from each pile in accordance with the color spectrum. You have no idea how happy I was when they finally added blue to the M&M colors. Now they just need to ditch brown and put violet in, and it would be perfect (I'm talking about regular M&Ms, by the way)

I don't arrange my spices, though, cuz I don't have many, and I can't see naming my kids in alphabetical order or having them be born on holidays, though.

[qwerty]

Hmmm that's interesting. As far as compulsions or rituals go I generally don't goto extremes unless there is a problem with the way I'm doing something.

I guess that is my compulsion - I do not like doing something the same way twice. (computer science here) When I'm working on a problem then I will draw on my background and use previous solutions to other problems to define a general way to solve the new problem but after I've done that I'll re-write the new solution from scratch and try to make it completely different.

[wolf]

I arrange my M&Ms and eat them in a specific order. If one of the piles of color isn't the same number as the rest, I eat the amount of them that will make them equal, then after that I eat one from each pile in accordance with the color spectrum. You have no idea how happy I was when they finally added blue to the M&M colors. Now they just need to ditch brown and put violet in, and it would be perfect (I'm talking about regular M&Ms, by the way)
It helps to know I'm not the only one that does things like this.

I eat my food rather methodically in certain patterns based on the type of food and how it was made. Some people notice this and find it rather peculiar.

[Apococlock]

Wow, that is quite different than myself o.O

I really don't have any extreme tendencies to arrange or habitual rituals to dance around. I suppose checking my email or specific forums are about as tedious as I get, and that's about as far as it goes.

Cool to hear what you guys do though.

[The Rose]

I arrange my M&Ms and eat them in a specific order. *If one of the piles of color isn't the same number as the rest, I eat the amount of them that will make them equal, then after that I eat one from each pile in accordance with the color spectrum. *You have no idea how happy I was when they finally added blue to the M&M colors. *Now they just need to ditch brown and put violet in, and it would be perfect (I'm talking about regular M&Ms, by the way).
LOL! because if they got rid of brown and added violet, you could eat them in ROY G BIV order, right?!

I used to keep my folders in my locker in ROY G BIV order!

My husband couldn't believe the first time he ever saw me dole out M&Ms!
I was giving each child the exact same number of each color!

He's like- give them each a handful and get it overwith!
But I CAN'T do it that way!!

[Firelie]

LOL! *because if they got rid of brown and added violet, you could eat them in ROY G BIV order, right?!


Yes, that's exactly it. I usually end up tacking brown next to red because that's really the only place it can go (in my mind, anyway), but it really does screw up my order.

[The Rose]

LOL! *because if they got rid of brown and added violet, you could eat them in ROY G BIV order, right?!


Yes, that's exactly it. *I usually end up tacking brown next to red because that's really the only place it can go (in my mind, anyway), but it really does screw up my order.

LOL! We are so funny, aren't we? :D

[Firelie]

I always kinda wondered if it was just a personality trait or the beginnings of OCD. hehe

[Guido]

I can't really think of anything I'm OCD about. For the M&Ms, I just see it as candy that I eat. The order or colouring is irrelevant since it's only purpose is for eating. I will tend to eat skittles in groups of colours, but that's because I like the distinct flavours rather than many flavours mixed at once. I would guess INTJ would make people prone to OCD things like that? But I don't think it's a universal trait.

(edit) Actually... that fruit loop post I made in the small talk forum might be a little cracked o.0

[Tarrick]

Can't say I do much with food, but I do tend to meticulously organize various files and folders on my computer and my book shelves. Maybe I'm just too practical to be extreme... Oh well.

[TeleportThis]

Wow. That M&M thing is pretty crazy. I'm not very color oriented though. I've never 'color coded' anything in my life.

The only thing I keep in order is CDs and DVDs.

[The Rose]

Wow. *That M&M thing is pretty crazy. *I'm not very color oriented though. *I've never 'color coded' anything in my life.

The only thing I keep in order is CDs and DVDs.All right!
You go! :thumbsup:

[Selly]

I have a thing about even numbers. If I chew two cheerios on one side of my mouth, I chew two cheerios on the other side of my mouth. Same with M&Ms.

I'm also pretty anal about organizing my bookmarks. I have a folder for my school websites, a folder for YouTube links, a folder for fan art and so on and so forth.

[HackerX]

All I can say is... wow!

Don't think I'd get 1/4 of the way through sorting a pack of m&m's before I got bored and ate them all

[radioactivez0r]

My CDs are alphabetized when they first go on the shelf, and over time they just stack up. When I move again I'll start over :) When it comes to food, I have to eat everything in equal parts, so that no part of the meal gets devoured, leaving the rest...although if it's food I don't like that much, I will eat it all first to get it out of the way. Stuff I like equally, though, shares the fork. I'll even try to even out a sandwich if it seems like there's more left on one side.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty tame.

[Rei]

I am such an extreme INTJ that I named my children in alphabetical order!
...
I am such an extreme INTJ that when my first 2 kids were born on a holiday,
I insisted that I have my C-Section for the 3rd one on a holiday, too!
...

I always thought it'd be neat to name my children alphabetically. *Considering I really like A and B names, it would work out well too... *Then again, I also like E names.. and goodness I am NOT having that many children.

Ever regret that C-section?


I'm a total freak when it comes to putting things in order. *I don't do it by alphabet though... I usually do it by content... and the category next to the one before has to be more related to the one before than the one after too.

My book shelves are in order of genre/content/size. *My music in order of genre/male or female vocalists/artists/date of publication etc.
When I get those Halloween pack chocolates (I stock up for studying *:lovestruck: ) I sort the different types, eat the extra ones until I have the same amount of all the types. *:suspicious:

[The Rose]

I am such an extreme INTJ that I named my children in alphabetical order!
...
I am such an extreme INTJ that when my first 2 kids were born on a holiday,
I insisted that I have my C-Section for the 3rd one on a holiday, too!
...

I always thought it'd be neat to name my children alphabetically. *Considering I really like A and B names, it would work out well too... *Then again, I also like E names.. and goodness I am NOT having that many children.

Ever regret that C-section?I was trying to be concise so I didn't explain fully.
The other 2 kids were also C-sections.
The first one was after 28 hours of labor.
The second was after 61 hours of labor - because I was trying to have a regular birth.
So for the 3rd one, it was a no-brainer to make an appointment.
And since the first 2 accidentally ended up on holidays, I had to TRY to get a holiday for the 3rd one.

I'm a total freak when it comes to putting things in order. *I don't do it by alphabet though... I usually do it by content... and the category next to the one before has to be more related to the one before than the one after too.

My book shelves are in order of genre/content/size. *My music in order of genre/male or female vocalists/artists/date of publication etc.THIS is why I can't organize my basement!

When I get those Halloween pack chocolates (I stock up for studying :lovestruck: ) I sort the different types, eat the extra ones until I have the same amount of all the types. :suspicious:I've done that too!

[rwyatt365]

I have a "food thing" too. When I eat Dots (the gummy candies in various flavors), I always line the colors up, in sequence always making sure that I start with a red one, and end with a red one (I LOVE the red ones).

When I eat regular food from a plate I never mix the different things together; a mouthful of this, chew, swallow, a mouthful of that, chew swallow, repeat. I'm not real keen on food touching, or sauces mixing on the plate either.

My other OCD-ism is a rant I have at home about dishes in the sink. Why is it that people have such difficulty in rinsing off their dishes and putting them into the dishwasher? And then, why can't people take the dishes OUT of the dishwasher when it's finished so that the cycle can begin again. Every day, when I come home after work, I find the sink completely full of dirty dishes and the dishwasher is full of clean dishes and every cupboard is empty. It drives me CRAZY! What sense does that make!!

[wedekit]

Anxiety disorders, yummy!

I have OCPD and social anxiety. I get really, really anxious when my cell rings. It is such a mood killer.

I always have to rewrite my math homework and all my notes. I don't walk on cracks in the sidewalk. I'm find people who are insufficient for doing basic tasks intolerable. I have obsessive thoughts. Basically if I think of anything that I don't want to think about (someone naked), it's all I can do. It's annoying. I stew on mistakes and embarrassing moments constantly. There's a lot more to list but I don't want to bore you.

[Rei]

Anxiety disorders, yummy!

I have OCPD and social anxiety. I get really, really anxious when my cell rings. It is such a mood killer. *


Why do you even carry your cell phone around then?

[deicruxified]

how extreme am i?

1. i don't want anyone fixing my room. i flip when someone else does (ex mom)
2. if ever i'll be writing on a sheet of paper, i fold it in half and right on the left side first... i make sure the handwriting is as small yet readable as possible so that i could maximize the space of my paper
3. i take a bath at least twice a day
4. i flip when my friends are late and would get revenge as soon as possible
5. i brush every tile in the bathroom
6. i don't want people touching my hair
7. i only use black ink to write stuff and purple ink to highlight stuff
8. i count how many times i rinse my clothes
9. except for weather disturbances, i go to whereever place i want.
10. my phone is always on silent mode

[Firelie]

10. my phone is always on silent mode

Pssh, that's not extreme. Cell phone ringers are annoying. Mine's always on silent mode too.

[Jbmontag]

I check my alarm is set several times after I lay down. I also have the cracks in the sidewalk problem, and any checkered pattern I move like a knight on a chessboard. My bed is always in a corner. I prefer if any numbers I'm using are all odd or even, not mixed. I snap my fingers in a cadence when I walk up or down stairs.

[bikerscars]

others consider it a bit extreme when it comes to washing my hands before eating any food that i touch...i just think it's proper hygiene

i am also rather certain to rinse any soap residue off in the shower/sink

although i am very organized; i am not a neat freak

i am a bit extreme when it comes to money...i hate to borrow/lend money to anyone(although giving is not a problem)

[Jack]

When I go out to eat I usually eat the most expensive part of the meal first, then finish the less important parts.

I rinse my car twice after I wash it, I cut my grass diagonally one week then horizontal the next.

I tend to be uncomfortable in tight clothing(ankle/wrist cuffs). I usually buy shoes that are tan and/or brown.

All of my guitars are black, an instrument is vibrant enough with out it needing bright colours.

I count my steps when walking up a set of stairs.

I also read pages twice, I don't know what that means but I have done it forever.

[StJimmy]

i guess i'm like the opposite of extreme or something, i'm not nearly as neurotic as most of you guys are, apparently ;D

[rasoirviolon]

all black guitars Jack? cool! how many do you have?

...hmm weird quirks of mine

all the doors in my home have to be closed before i leave
i feel extremely insecure if i'm not wearing a watch ... even to the point that i sleep with my watch on every night
i hate eating in public
food on the plate cannot touch other food (but i don't use those plates that have separate compartments)
"fingerfoods" are a no-no for me since i simply can't eat with my hands (i always have to use cutlery...even with things like fruit and i eat nuts or small things with chopsticks)

umm.. probably the strangest of all is that all my books are covered; they all have white coverings and the titles and authors written on the spine in black sharpie... and only black sharpie.

[Rei]

all black guitars Jack? cool! how many do you have?

...hmm weird quirks of mine

all the doors in my home have to be closed before i leave
i feel extremely insecure if i'm not wearing a watch ... even to the point that i sleep with my watch on every night
i hate eating in public
food on the plate cannot touch other food (but i don't use those plates that have separate compartments)
"fingerfoods" are *a no-no for me since i simply can't eat with my hands (i always have to use cutlery...even with things like fruit and i eat nuts or small things with chopsticks)

umm.. probably the strangest of all is that all my books are covered; they all have white coverings and the titles and authors written on the spine in black sharpie... and only black sharpie.


Yeah I have the thing with the closed doors and the watch too. I used to shower with my watch on.
But since I got dogs I had to stop the whole door closing ritual. *I think it's a bit mean if I don't let them have the run of the whole house. *::)

[phoenix]

Wow...amazing how many of these I relate to.

Food: I hate it when foods touch, and I finish eating each item before moving on to the next in a very specific order; vegetable, rice/potato/pasta, then meat. All dinners should contain those three or I get all out of whack.

M&Ms: Yup, sort by color. But I eat green first, then brown, then yellow. I dislike the more artificial colors (blue, red) so I eat them last. I still eat them, just last. LOL

CDs/records: Sort alphabetically by artist, then by date of release

DVDs: Sort by genre, then alphabetically by title

Books: Sort by genre, then alphabetically by author, then by date of release, unless dealing with a series. I keep the series in the appropriate order.

Somehow I'm not nearly so methodical with virtual items. I don't oversort my files, my email inbox is always full. No hand washing, watch wearing, or door closing issues. Also, I've gotten much less obsessive over time....I learned that no one else will put things back in order, and I have to be okay with that. It's not worth the stress to get upset. Don't sweat the small stuff.

I still get told that I am anal. Isn't that nice? ::)

[Unknown]

It's nice to know I'm not the only quirky one out there.

Whether it's M&M or Skittles, I organize them by color, eat the ones with the fewest first and then in order until I'm left with the largest pile. *I like the idea of eating them in ROY G BIV order! *:D

At one time, I had my books in order by the dewey decimal system.

Amen to the dirty dishes in the sink!! *I have to make sure the sink is empty before going to bed or leaving the house. *On a similar note, when I cook...I have to have the kitchen (my domain!) clean before I can eat. *Generally, I clean as I go. *I can't stand it if someone works in the kitchen and piles the dirty dishes in the sink to be cleaned "later" (usually by me).

[Jeroen Jan-Willem]

I am such an extreme INTJ that I named my children in alphabetical order!
I am not entirely sure why such "extremes" would relate to being INTJ.

I used to keep my spice rack and all my record albums in alphabetical order, too,
For a spice rack that makes sense to me (though I don't have one now, and since my ENFP does most of the cooking I don't think it would be worth the effort). My CDs are organized from "important"" to "rarely used", mostly by genre. Within those groups, albums from the same band go together, usually from most important to least important band-wise (though related projects tend to go with the perceived "main" one), and for the band in chronological order.

[thegnat]

I arrange my M&Ms and eat them in a specific order. If one of the piles of color isn't the same number as the rest, I eat the amount of them that will make them equal, then after that I eat one from each pile in accordance with the color spectrum. You have no idea how happy I was when they finally added blue to the M&M colors. Now they just need to ditch brown and put violet in, and it would be perfect (I'm talking about regular M&Ms, by the way)
It helps to know I'm not the only one that does things like this.

I eat my food rather methodically in certain patterns based on the type of food and how it was made. Some people notice this and find it rather peculiar.

same here to both of you!

I'm also weird in that with corn on the cob, I have to eat either 4 rows of corn at a time or 3 rows of corn at a time. I adjust so I don't have to eat 5 or 2 rows of corn depending on the corn cob.

It's kind of random with me.

Except the cleanliness of my room (entropy rules there), I'll have most things in some sort of order. But I will organize my bookmarks on my computer, my computer, school stuff to an extent will be organized....I just have to motivate myself to clean.....

[grey]

Stairs are always counted, up and down. I suppose this helps me navigate in the dark, though that's really not the reason for this. Sidewalk squares and tiles are always counted, and an average of steps/unit is maintained.

Tips on credit card purchases must always bring totals to whole-number dollar amounts.

Candies that are packaged in assortments of colors/flavors eaten so as to first establish even distribution of distinguishable pieces? Yep.

Meals eaten in a specific order by dish? Yep.

DVDs, CDs, and books stored alphabetically, by genre? Yep.

[aelan]

I get really, really anxious when my cell rings. It is such a mood killer.
I hate when my cell phone rings, it startles the hell out of me (which is why I usually having it on vibrate). *For the longest time whenever it rang I'd get this horrible initial fear that something bad had happened- probably because people RARELY call me anyways, so why the hell would it be ringing? *Actually, sometimes when people talk to me IRL, it's almost like I'm in shock and don't know what to do because it was so unexpected..

I have a thing about even numbers. If I chew two cheerios on one side of my mouth, I chew two cheerios on the other side of my mouth. Same with M&Ms.
when I was a kid, if I accidentally hurt myself on one side, I'd have to intentionally hurt myself on the other to make it even (assuming it didn't hurt that much)



As for M&Ms and other colorful candy, only if they are already out of the bag will I eat the correct amount to make there be an equal number of each color.

I do, however, have specific colors for each one of my classes, and I have to get binders that match that particular color (or I will determine what the appropriate substitute-color is to be, if the original color is not available). *I even have subdivisions for different types of a subject, for example, Psychology in general is yellow-gold, but different types of psychology have different colors (i.e. child development=dark blue, abnormal psych=maroon, my current personality theories class is of the yellow, gold, green color scheme, similar to that of philosophy, but if we were learning about the MBTI, it would possibly have more of a blue, purplish feel to it).

[xtremegeek]

I arrange my M&Ms and eat them in a specific order. *If one of the piles of color isn't the same number as the rest, I eat the amount of them that will make them equal, then after that I eat one from each pile in accordance with the color spectrum. *You have no idea how happy I was when they finally added blue to the M&M colors. *Now they just need to ditch brown and put violet in, and it would be perfect (I'm talking about regular M&Ms, by the way).
LOL! *because if they got rid of brown and added violet, you could eat them in ROY G BIV order, right?!

I used to keep my folders in my locker in ROY G BIV order!

My husband couldn't believe the first time he ever saw me dole out M&Ms!
I was giving each child the exact same number of each color!

He's like- give them each a handful and get it overwith!
But I CAN'T *do it that way!!

ROY G BIV order...that's great! My nephews think I'm weird becaue I swear that the red M & Ms taste better. It's really just a ploy to get some M & Ms. When I tell someone that the red ones taste better...first they disagree; then upon seeing my stubborn insistance that they taste different, the person will seek out some M & Ms and make me do a blind "taste test." I don't care if I get the taste test right, I just got some free M & Ms. ;D

[Cub]

I have to open applications on my computer in order. On my Taskbar they HAVE to be in this order....Outlook first; Internet Explorer second; My Computer (folders) third; Calculator fourth. Beyond that it doesn't matter. If I accidently close Outlook, I have to close everything else and reopen Outlook first so it's the first thing in my Taskbar.

I HATE even numbers. If I am setting a timer or alarm clock it has to be set to an odd number. If I am setting a clock and the current time is 12:00, I have to set my clock to 12:01.

I can't eat green skittles.

:-?

[Firelie]

I have to open applications on my computer in order. On my Taskbar they HAVE to be in this order....Outlook first; Internet Explorer second; My Computer (folders) third; Calculator fourth. Beyond that it doesn't matter. If I accidently close Outlook, I have to close everything else and reopen Outlook first so it's the first thing in my Taskbar.


Haha, I do that too. I get so pissed off if one of the programs freezes, cuz that means I have to redo the order again. I've actually figured out how to make the biggest "freezer" restart without losing its spot in the line. [smiley=idea.gif]

[Cub]

OK, I thought of another thing that is very extreme that most people find quite strange. :-[

I don't know if it's an INTJ thing or if I'm just weird.....but....I cannot eat meat that is in a shape. So any meat that has been taken apart and put back together in a shape....nope, can't eat it!!!! Yes, that means hamburgers, hotdogs, sausage, lunchmeat (you know that kind that is a circle). Basically any processed meat is out of the question. A chicken breast is fine, a steak is fine, etc...

Shaped meat freaks me out!!! :scared:

[HarleyQuinn]

1: The M&M's/Skittles/Whatever color has to go by color first. If it's Skittles or Starburst, I start with the "worst" flavor i.e. yellow or orange and work my way to the "good" flavors i.e. red or purple.

2: If I make a pile for books, they have to go down based on size (small to large) and pertain to the class/topic.

3: See #2 but lining up food items (cereal boxes, poptarts, etc.), small to large and either front to back or right to left.

[Firelie]

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[Epicurus]

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[ShaiGar]

I'm naming my son
William Wolfgang Wright - after my four favourite things.
William Shakespear - Master poet and playwright.
Amadeus Wolfgang Mozart - Master Classical Musician
Wilbur & Orvil Wright - Invention and Areonautics
WWW - The Interwebs

[hopscotch]

I don't have any serious compulsions. *I used to alphabetize my books, CDs and DVDs but space doesn't permit this anymore. *I also used to colour-code my closet. *Actually, I still do in a way; whereas I used to ensure garments of the same colour were grouped together, I now take pains to avoid hanging items of the same colour too near each other. *I like the rainbow effect.

I'm rather anal about keeping doors closed and placing objects back in their respective places. *I also double-check that I have my keys at least three or four times daily, even though I've only locked myself out once.

[Paul V]

I'm extremely extremist. I usually love or hate things, no middle ground. But when it comes to arguements, I always try to reach common ground.

[cielo market]

I top off at the gasoline pump until I reach an even dollar amount... even though they say not to :P

[yllmar]

This thread has been very therapudic for me. ;D


I do just about everything that has been mentioned.
Count steps
Not step on cracks in the sidewalk
Divide my toys in half when I was a child to the point if something wasn't balanced evenly I couldn't function
I sort my CDs alphebetically by artist in chronological order, and then the whole collection is grouped by extreme genre
My DVD collection is sorted by genre aphabetically by title, with the R-rated stuff on the top shelf so the children can't reach it. The G-rated stuff is on the bottom shelf in easy reach.
My pantry is sorted so that it looks like a grocery store shelf in perfect alignment, with all the labels facing frontward
I can't stand dirty dishes in the sink, either, nor can I stand clean dishes not put away
When I fill up my glass from the water bottle in the refridgerator, I don't put it back without filling it back up first
My house keys are in my front left pocket, my car keys in my front right pocket, my wallet in my back right pocket and extra things that I may need to carry briefly goes in the remaining pocket. This never changes.
My cell phone goes on my left side and is always on vibrate. This isn't unusual, but my call log, message log, and voice mail is empty at all times.
I am angry if the wireless phone is not on the charger
My food doesn't touch and I don't have divided plates. I eat one specific food at a time. This isn't different from what has already been mentioned, but what is unusual is if I'm eating a sandwich I leave the part where I was holding the bread. I don't eat the sandwich handle.
The dishes are put away in a specific pattern. This never changes.


I could go on...

I get called anal quite frequently, but I see this as been efficient.

Thanks for this thread. 8-)

[Firelie]

Something I've noticed myself doing lately...Balancing out weights on the elevator. If it's not packed with people, I estimate people's weight and position myself in relation to them to make it more balanced. If I'm in the elevator alone, I'll stand in the center.

Guess the elevator ride is just THAT boring.

[Gabrielle]

I don't put my notebooks in ROYGBV, but I always sorted them out in class order, left to right. So last year I had Chemistry first, so Chemistry book and notebook was always on the leftmost. Classes after lunch were on the lower shelves in my locker.

I also always have to take the same staircase, same side. If there's anyone standing in my way and I can't get through, I have to come back down and redo it.

I have a lucky pen and pencil, and I always have to use those during tests.

I can't go to sleep in a messy room, so I always have to tidy things up, put out clothes for the next day, sort out my books, pack them in my bag, make sure that my desk is clean and tidy.

I'm a little neurotic, I guess.

[zero]

I eat my food in a specific order, like many of you here (e.g steak, french fries, drink)
Also I work through the plate from outwards to the centre when eating pasta

I don't step on the cracks in the sidewalk

When walking over grids or planks, I step on the points that I'm sure they will support my weight

CD's, DVD's, comics etc are in chronological order

When wearing my jacket my cellphone is always on my right hand pocket, my wallet in the inner left pocket, my mp3 in my inner right pocket (also has a hole for the headphones) , rolling tobacco apparel in the outer left hand chest pocket and my keys are in the second left hand pocket always. Jacket has a lot of pockets :D

I always put coins in my wallet so they dont jingle, I get really annoyed by any jingle from anything

I don't like anyone putting my room in order, I know where everything is in the chaos I create :D

I watch how every bulding I walk in is structured (pillars etc)

I always want to drink first from a bottle that I've bought with/for a friend

Last, I want my filter tip columns to be in that way so all columns are full and only one is missing filter tips

I've been told countless times that the two last ones are really strange but I couldn't care more, I can't function if they're not done that way :P

[The Rose]

My dresses are hanging in order in my closet. I take the dress from the left... wear it... put it at the end of the line on the right. That way I don't have to remember what I wore last.

[cielo market]

My dresses are hanging in order in my closet. I take the dress from the left... wear it... put it at the end of the line on the right. That way I don't have to remember what I wore last.

are they also in order of length? that's how I hang up my clothes :D

[The Rose]

are they also in order of length? that's how I hang up my clothes :DWow! I never thought of that! I am much more likely to hang all the same colors together.

No I only own about 10 dresses. I wear them to church on Sunday. So I don't wear the same one too frequently, I rotate them.

[Baba Eshka]

Hey, I hate to borrow/lend money too. Giving is not a problem with me too, although I can't bring myself to remind people that they owe me, and they do take advantage of that. But to borrow money, I'd rather eat cat food...

I just came across this web site, and this is totally crazy, I never thought about that like that. I started asking my husband some questions, and he pointed some things too, though he is INTP (a total weirdo, even from my perspective)
And come to think of that, my husband makes fun of me every time I make myself a sandwich - the meat had to be PERFECTLY distributed on the bread. And what is this thing with M&Ms? I do eat them color wise too. And let not start talking about order of things in my kitchen....

[Todos]

Hmm, I don't have any of these compulsions. When something is important, I want to double check it if someone else does it, and I'd rather do it myself, but a neat freak I am not! And if you want to see disorganized, take a look at my garage. I always thought it was INTJ to focus on something, putting all else aside (like neatness) that is not essential to getting it done.

[Darklord]

Well, I'm obviously not as anal-retentive (As opposed to -expulsive) as you guys, but I do have some of these:

- When in high school in the US for a year, I'd always organize my folders so that the next one I'd need would be at the back.
- My DVD collection is organized by series, genre and general "theme", forming a progression (Science Fantasy -> Space Opera -> "Hard" Space Fiction -> "Ground" SF -> Scientific Mystery -> Conspiracy Fiction -> Mystery with fantastic elements -> Fantasy set in the present). Except that I organize everything in inverse order, so that a series would go like this: Season 3 - Season 2 - Season 1.
- My clothes are organized by color: The brown shirt is there, and the white one right on top of it, and all the black stuff is over there.
- I made a system of stickers to put on my movies, rating them by languages available, suitability for children and quality. One symbol for each combination.
- I made a database for all the lightbulbs at work, before deciding not to use it.
- I organize the glasses and plates in my cupboard from smallest to largest.
- I organize my M&Ms into "sets" consisting of one of each colour.
- I cut my food into symmetric shapes. Generally squares.
- When unwrapping or opening something, I always try to leave the wrapping intact. I also peel my oranges so that there is only one piece of peel.

But I doubt that you will find anybody who does no such thing at all.

EDIT: Also, I organize my desk, table or any other surface at which I spend some time in straight angles. Unless there's a computer or book or something involved, because then I'll be too preoccupied.
EDIT #2: And I also organize shapes, words and numbers into certain patterns.

[The Rose]

... my husband some questions, and he pointed some things too, though he is INTP (a total weirdo, even from my perspective)tee-hee
And come to think of that, my husband makes fun of me every time I make myself a sandwich - the meat had to be PERFECTLY distributed on the bread.....My husband makes fun of me, too! (ISTP)

I have to apply butter to every square millimeter of the toast!

...- When in high school in the US for a year, I'd always organize my folders so that the next one I'd need would be at the back.
- My DVD collection is organized by series, genre and general "theme", forming a progression (Science Fantasy -> Space Opera -> "Hard" Space Fiction -> "Ground" SF -> Scientific Mystery -> Conspiracy Fiction -> Mystery with fantastic elements -> Fantasy set in the present). Except that I organize everything in inverse order, so that a series would go like this: Season 3 - Season 2 - Season 1.
- My clothes are organized by color: The brown shirt is there, and the white one right on top of it, and all the black stuff is over there.
- I made a system of stickers to put on my movies, rating them by languages available, suitability for children and quality. One symbol for each combination.
- I made a database for all the lightbulbs at work, before deciding not to use it.
- I organize the glasses and plates in my cupboard form smallest to largest.
- I organize my M&Ms into "sets" consisting of one of each colour.
- I cut my food into symmetric shapes. Generally squares.
- When unwrapping or opening something, I always try to leave the wrapping intact. I also peel my oranges so that there is only one piece of peel.
...<swoon> My HERO!

[Darklord]

What can I say? I'm a master of arbitrary rules and patterns. I always make them up, and I always break them. Like my movie-stickers: Not before had I decided to follow through on it than I discovered that the number of easily-recognizable geometric patterns were smaller than the amount of categories I had drawn up, and that we didn't have the necessary raw materials at home to boot. I decided that not using that system was more efficient.

I also have taken the time to figure out the most efficient way of using the elevators at work.

[Jedi_sena]

I am the only person who thinks that I am organized. From the looks of my messy desk, and home, no one would ever believe that I am a perfectionist. But if one thing is moved in my home or workspace, I go into orbit. In my mind, things go where I had them last, and I never lose or misplace anything unless someone else has interfered. My mind is highly organized according to my standard, unfortunately, my standard of orderly is unique only to myself. I do a great many things out of compulsion, but very few people notice them.

[INTJgal]

A lot of the things described in this thread are more "extreme J-ness" than extreme INTJness. Not all, but some.

[Jedi_sena]

I guess I should air my dirty laundry. Each piece of laundry falls into one of these categories: dirty non-fuzzy white, lightly worn non-fuzzy white, dress non-fuzzy white, dress fuzzy white, dirty fuzzy white, lightly worn fuzzy white, dirty non-fuzzy dark, lightly worn non-fuzzy dark, dress non-fuzzy dark, dress fuzzy dark, red/purple fuzzy, red/purple non-fuzzy, tan fuzzy, tan non fuzzy, dirty tan. There must be enough of each category to fill the washer before I begin, so the laundry piles up tremenously before I ever get to it. I cringe when my helpful husband does laundry because it is, in my view, wrong; but I don't want him to know my ridiculous system nor do I want him to know the reason I have let it pile up for so long.

Also, I have a reason (albeit silly) for doing everything including scooping up which flakes in a bowl of cereal. Some bites must be taken because of the time they've encountered the milk and the degree of sogginess, etc. I have a strategic way to eat everything and must disassemble the meal to suit those strict guidelines. To most onlookers, it doesn't seem to have any logical pattern so almost no one takes note.

[Ryokurin]

I recently went through a "life simplification" project a few months back when I attempted to get rid of most of them, but here are some of the ones I had during my life.

1. When I was a kid I ate one dish at a time, until it was finished then I moved on to the next.
2. DVDs are organized by series, in disk order.
3. Perfectionist. I will start something over if I think it can be better, or cleaner even if I'm almost finished. Lets use mp3s as an example. first I put it in genres. then sorted by artists, then I got the tagging right, then I made sure it had album art, then I started having lossless options and on and on.
4. I can't stand repeating myself more than twice.
5. I always take steps two at a time.
6. When it comes to work I have to be at least 30m early. Its not enough to just be on time. I need the breathing room as it stresses me out when I'm late, even if its not my fault.

[The Rose]

I am the only person who thinks that I am organized. From the looks of my messy desk, and home, no one would ever believe that I am a perfectionist. But if one thing is moved in my home or workspace, I go into orbit. In my mind, things go where I had them last, and I never lose or misplace anything unless someone else has interfered. My mind is highly organized according to my standard, unfortunately, my standard of orderly is unique only to myself. I do a great many things out of compulsion, but very few people notice them.I am this way, too.

One thing I remembered about my youth though - whenever the class would have desk-cleanup day, I never had anything to do. My desk was never messy. It was neat and organized with a place for everything and everything in its place 24/7!

In high school, my locker was always neat and clean with my notebooks all in color-coded order.

Even now, my vehicle is always clean. I make everyone take everything out when we get out. I can't stand having a messy car with stuff on the floor.

What I learned about all that is this:
I am very neat, clean and organized when it's a small space, and when everything has a place. The reason my house is messy is because we have too much stuff that doesn't have a place where it belongs. Since I can't get my house clean, I don't bother trying at all. Resistance seems futile.

[phoenix]

are they also in order of length? that's how I hang up my clothes :D

/blush I do that . . . put all the dresses together and sort them by length. Also, my hanging clothes are sorted by utility, all sweaters together, all pants, all shells for under the jackets, then the jackets, of course . . .

My partner just shakes her head. But she doesn't complain when it's easy to find what she's looking for in the closet.

[Jedi_sena]

Yes, some spaces (confined areas) are neat, like the linen closet for some reason. Very orderly and it is hidden. Also, I have a drawer w/ office-use things like stapler, tape, calculator and there is a designated space for it. I'll have to think on this more. I am overwhelmed by housekeeping. Also, when asked to find something I look in two places: where it goes, or where I used it last. Without outside interference, it will ALWAYS be in one of those locations.

I often arrive at work early although that time is unpaid, just so I can work myself up to it and get in work mode. I have two half-days where I come in at 1pm. I hate those days because I am behind before I ever arrive and feel very stressed until I catch up. I hate being late--even when it isn't my fault. I hate walking in just at 8am, even though coworkers are regularly up to 20 minutes late, some of them with far more responsibility than I have. Their tardiness doesn't soothe my conscience one bit.

The part about repeating yourself fits too. My husband often asks the same question repeatedly in the course of an evening or a week, hoping for a different answer, but I am always consistent and still, he asks as if he's never voiced the question or heard the answer before. I often hear myself say, "Did we not just have this conversation?" But I love telling the same story over and over again as long as there is a new listener each time. Go figure.

I love to make lists too. Few lists of tasks ever really get carried out because I find new perameters require a new list. I do take pleasure in accomplishing duties on a perfected list, but often find the lists inadequate and therefore worthless. I dream of doing much more than I actually get done.

[The Rose]

Yes, some spaces (confined areas) are neat, like the linen closet for some reason. Very orderly and it is hidden. Also, I have a drawer w/ office-use things like stapler, tape, calculator and there is a designated space for it. I'll have to think on this more. I am overwhelmed by housekeeping. Also, when asked to find something I look in two places: where it goes, or where I used it last. Without outside interference, it will ALWAYS be in one of those locations.

I often arrive at work early although that time is unpaid, just so I can work myself up to it and get in work mode. I have two half-days where I come in at 1pm. I hate those days because I am behind before I ever arrive and feel very stressed until I catch up. I hate being late--even when it isn't my fault. I hate walking in just at 8am, even though coworkers are regularly up to 20 minutes late, some of them with far more responsibility than I have. Their tardiness doesn't soothe my conscience one bit.

The part about repeating yourself fits too. My husband often asks the same question repeatedly in the course of an evening or a week, hoping for a different answer, but I am always consistent and still, he asks as if he's never voiced the question or heard the answer before. I often hear myself say, "Did we not just have this conversation?" But I love telling the same story over and over again as long as there is a new listener each time. Go figure.

I love to make lists too. Few lists of tasks ever really get carried out because I find new parameters require a new list. I do take pleasure in accomplishing duties on a perfected list, but often find the lists inadequate and therefore worthless. I dream of doing much more than I actually get done.I am very much like you in all that you shared.

[Jedi_sena]

Looked around the house last night and sure enough, there are many tiny spaces like the kitchen cupboards, my jewelry case, etc. that are neat and orderly and stay that way on a consistent basis. Two things these spaces have in common: small spaces, seldom disturbed by others. That explains why I never keep my desk orderly at work--it is a catch-all spot for the entire office and my stapler is always missing! Arggggh! I cannot bear to dust the house and now I know that it is because my husband has begun collecting action figures and they are taking over every horizontal surface of the house. My aversion to dusting began when he moved my clutter to make room for his clutter. No coincidence.

[The Rose]

I feel exactly the same way about dusting. As a matter of fact there is a box of stuff in the basement that has never been unpacked in 20 years because it just sits out gathering dust!

[Jedi_sena]

Also, my laundry thing is much more detailed than I admitted. I also have to launder each pile in a particular order taking into account factors such as how long each load will take to dry and whether it can be left in the dryer while I leave the house for work or whether it will require being folded and hung immediately. The degree of dirtiness as well as the intended use of the items determine the temperature and the amount of detergent/softener, and which wash/dry cycles they will need. Factory settings and recommended dosage are merely a stepping off point to begin calculating the proper way each load should be done. I don't do this neurotically so much as it just makes sense to do it right. On one hand it is a compulsion, but on a more important level it just is the most effective, logical method.

My husband & I were talking about this last night and I grabbed a hair conditioner off of the bathroom countertop and said, "where does this go?" He replied, "well, it is hairstuff so it goes in the bathroom." He based the decision on a single fact. When I see it, I think, well, it is a leave-in conditioner and should be applied directly after leaving the shower, so it goes not in the shower, but outside of the shower in the nearest cabinet which would be the one over our toilet. However, the size of the bottle exceeds the shelf clearance. My solution was: Put a measure of the product in a small spray-bottle that fits in the proper cabinet. The original product packaging and the remaining contents will go under the sink where the large rolls of TP and the refill bottle of handsoap reside, but in front of them since it is the smallest thing in the cabinet and the most likely item to be next accessed. My husband replied "that is exhausting!" But necessary. These are calculations that I am making every second of every day and it is second nature.

[The Rose]

Also, my laundry thing is much more detailed than I admitted. I also have to launder each pile in a particular order taking into account factors such as how long each load will take to dry and whether it can be left in the dryer while I leave the house for work or whether it will require being folded and hung immediately. The degree of dirtiness as well as the intended use of the items determine the temperature and the amount of detergent/softener, and which wash/dry cycles they will need. Factory settings and recommended dosage are merely a stepping off point to begin calculating the proper way each load should be done. I don't do this neurotically so much as it just makes sense to do it right. On one hand it is a compulsion, but on a more important level it just is the most effective, logical method.

My husband & I were talking about this last night and I grabbed a hair conditioner off of the bathroom countertop and said, "where does this go?" He replied, "well, it is hairstuff so it goes in the bathroom." He based the decision on a single fact. When I see it, I think, well, it is a leave-in conditioner and should be applied directly after leaving the shower, so it goes not in the shower, but outside of the shower in the nearest cabinet which would be the one over our toilet. However, the size of the bottle exceeds the shelf clearance. My solution was: Put a measure of the product in a small spray-bottle that fits in the proper cabinet. The original product packaging and the remaining contents will go under the sink where the large rolls of TP and the refill bottle of handsoap reside, but in front of them since it is the smallest thing in the cabinet and the most likely item to be next accessed. My husband replied "that is exhausting!" But necessary. These are calculations that I am making every second of every day and it is second nature.If there ever comes a day when we're both old and gray widows, I propose we become roommates! We will definitely get along! ;)

[Jedi_sena]

If there ever comes a day when we're both old and gray widows, I propose we become roommates! We will definitely get along!

Well, I will give it some calculated thought. Too many variables to make a snap decision.

Seriously though, it is kinda nice to network with folks of like-mind since we apparently only encounter each other in the real world 1 in 100 times and probably immediately dismiss one another when we do.

[Hdier]

I have a thing about even numbers. If I chew two cheerios on one side of my mouth, I chew two cheerios on the other side of my mouth. Same with M&amp;Ms.

Same here, only with absolutely everything. I have an obsession with making everything absolutely equal, even if it means punching myself on one arm to make the pain the same as the other arm (I'm considering seeing a shrink...)

[The Rose]

...Seriously though, it is kinda nice to network with folks of like-mind since we apparently only encounter each other in the real world 1 in 100 times and probably immediately dismiss one another when we do.I know what you're saying. I think there's an INTJ in my Bible study - or maybe an INFJ - haven't got her quite figured out yet. But I can't tell you haw happy I am to know it. It makes me want to cultivate a friendship with her.

What's funny is we're similar in eerie ways, and really different in many ways - like she's not computer savvy.

I think the differences come from what Keirsey says about how INTJs tend to "specialize" in different areas of knowledge. Her areas of specialty are different from my areas of specialty. That might be what makes it difficult for us to recognize each other.

[amei]

This is a fun thread to read. Here are my contributions.
Definitely eat M&Ms by color, although I don't have a set color order. I just have to eat all of the same color at once. Oh, and I like to eat them by pairs.
I don't like the food on my plate to touch. I like to eat all of one thing first and then the next thing instead of alternating bites.
When I was in college, my notes had to be perfectly aligned. I would actually measure how far the indent was so that when I started on a new page, the indents would match.
As a child, I remember spending afternoons rearranging my bookshelf and trying out new ways like alphabetical by author, alphabetical by title, height, genre.

[The Rose]

This is a fun thread to read. Here are my contributions.
Definitely eat M&Ms by color, although I don't have a set color order. I just have to eat all of the same color at once. Oh, and I like to eat them by pairs.
I don't like the food on my plate to touch. I like to eat all of one thing first and then the next thing instead of alternating bites.
When I was in college, my notes had to be perfectly aligned. I would actually measure how far the indent was so that when I started on a new page, the indents would match.
As a child, I remember spending afternoons rearranging my bookshelf and trying out new ways like alphabetical by author, alphabetical by title, height, genre.Cool.:cool:

[Hdier]

I eat my M&M's by color, but I go by the most in a color to the least in a color, usually, rather than a set order.

Also, I unwrap my presents in ROY G. BIV (it takes a long time to sort them out, as I have to look at the main color, than secondary color, etc. It's easier if it's just one color rather than a design with diffrent colors)

[The Rose]

I eat my M&M's by color, but I go by the most in a color to the least in a color, usually, rather than a set order.

Also, I unwrap my presents in ROY G. BIV (it takes a long time to sort them out, as I have to look at the main color, than secondary color, etc. It's easier if it's just one color rather than a design with different colors)Really! Unwrapping your presents in order. I've never heard of that one. Lucky you! You get so many presents!

[Jedi_sena]

M&Ms and Skittles. Yeah. I grab a handful and start eating them down in such a way that brings the population into balance (equal numbers of each color/flavor) then I eat each of them (never more than one at a time) in order of favoritism so that I maintain the equal population to the end, but always end up w/ the orange for the final bite saving the best for last in each go around.
Gosh, I need professional help!
I worked w/ a non-INTJ who had to go through the entire bag counting out same amount of each color to fill his candy jar at work. You were welcome to take from the jar, but only if you took the same number of each color out to maintain a balance. This guy also dunked his tea bag in hot water exactly 30 times. Other than those quirks, he didn't seem very neurotic to me at all.

[Hdier]

Really! Unwrapping your presents in order. I've never heard of that one. Lucky you! You get so many presents!

Actually, I tend to get more small things (the last two being an exception) rather than bigger things (I'm talking monetarily, not physical size), so I tend to technically have more, but...

[The Rose]

M&Ms and Skittles. Yeah. I grab a handful and start eating them down in such a way that brings the population into balance (equal numbers of each color/flavor) then I eat each of them (never more than one at a time) in order of favoritism so that I maintain the equal population to the end, but always end up w/ the orange for the final bite saving the best for last in each go around.

Gosh, I need professional help!tee-hee
I worked w/ a non-INTJ who had to go through the entire bag counting out same amount of each color to fill his candy jar at work. You were welcome to take from the jar, but only if you took the same number of each color out to maintain a balance. This guy also dunked his tea bag in hot water exactly 30 times. Other than those quirks, he didn't seem very neurotic to me at all.Aww. Poor guy! (Because inevitably there's "P" who comes by who just has to ruin your day by making it uneven!)

[The Rose]

Actually, I tend to get more small things (the last two being an exception) rather than bigger things (I'm talking monetarily, not physical size), so I tend to technically have more, but...Still. Somebody had to wrap all those presents. Lots of presents is fun.

[Hdier]

Good point (evil laughter just for the fun of it)

[logos]

* I eat my m&ms/skittles in order of least frequently occurring color in my handful to most frequently occurring color.
* I eat broken chips/pretzels from my serving first
* I eat the smallest and largest slice of pizza when its cut unevenly

I find I do this in all things; tackling that which does not appear to be uniform first.

I do the same thing when I play video games. I take the least likely paths first hoping to find short dead ends with hidden treasures then continue on the course. When working on a project, like painting, i paint all the corners, edges, and other weird things first, which seems like a small % of it, but then I can uniformly roll the rest and bam its done. It just seems to make sense. I like to get the loose ends tied up before I tackle the 'meat' of a project. I figured it was a 'J' thing.

I do some of the things others mentioned as well, including avoiding sidewalk cracks and washing dishes I used to cook before I eat and dishes I used to eat immediately afterwards. When I fill my gas tank, it doesn't have to be an even dollar amount, but the number sequence must be a discernible pattern. It usually takes just under $40 to fill my tank (small car) so I get numbers like $39.12 (3+9=12), $38.55 (|8-3|=5,|3-8|=5), or $37.21 (3*7=21).

The pocket thing I figured applied to everyone. Wallet back left (I'm left-handed), gun front left, Keys front right, phone left belt, work phone left belt slight rear.

[Aesthesis]

I don't really have any extreme habits like some aforementioned. But I do like to walk in patterns, like a recurring sequence of steps, and if I mess it up, I have to start all over again. That's pretty much the most extreme thing I do, seems pretty tame.

[Hdier]

I do some of the things others mentioned as well, including avoiding sidewalk cracks.

That's right! I forgot to tell you that if I walk on a tiled ground (only outside), than I always step in only one tile (or four, if they're to small) when I walk.

I don't really have any extreme habits like some aforementioned. But I do like to walk in patterns, like a recurring sequence of steps, and if I mess it up, I have to start all over again. That's pretty much the most extreme thing I do, seems pretty tame.

LOL, I do this once in a while, too.

[The Rose]

* I eat my m&ms/skittles in order of least frequently occurring color in my handful to most frequently occurring color.
* I eat broken chips/pretzels from my serving first
* I eat the smallest and largest slice of pizza when its cut unevenly

I find I do this in all things; tackling that which does not appear to be uniform first.

I do the same thing when I play video games. I take the least likely paths first hoping to find short dead ends with hidden treasures then continue on the course. When working on a project, like painting, i paint all the corners, edges, and other weird things first, which seems like a small % of it, but then I can uniformly roll the rest and bam its done. It just seems to make sense. I like to get the loose ends tied up before I tackle the 'meat' of a project. I figured it was a 'J' thing.

I do some of the things others mentioned as well, including avoiding sidewalk cracks and washing dishes I used to cook before I eat and dishes I used to eat immediately afterwards. When I fill my gas tank, it doesn't have to be an even dollar amount, but the number sequence must be a discernible pattern. It usually takes just under $40 to fill my tank (small car) so I get numbers like $39.12 (3+9=12), $38.55 (|8-3|=5,|3-8|=5), or $37.21 (3*7=21).

The pocket thing I figured applied to everyone. Wallet back left (I'm left-handed), gun front left, Keys front right, phone left belt, work phone left belt slight rear.You're kidding about the gun, right? :scared:

[Jedi_sena]

Washing dishes. I begin w/ fresh soap and hot water and wash the drinking glasses first (because those aren't ever heated and therefore need to be the cleanest. I follow with ceramic mugs, then glass/ceramic serving dishes, then plastic containers, then the utensils, then the cooking pans and such.) Each catagory is done from cleanest to dirtiest item and at some point I may need to do an extra water change. I don't really stress over it, and it flows quite naturally, but I must admit that if husband is clearing the table and dumps something into the sink that is not in-sync w/ my program, then I take it out and set it on the counter for later.
My sponges graduate to more and more degrading jobs as they wear out, but that just makes good sense.

[The Rose]

Washing dishes. I begin w/ fresh soap and hot water and wash the drinking glasses first (because those aren't ever heated and therefore need to be the cleanest. I follow with ceramic mugs, then glass/ceramic serving dishes, then plastic containers, then the utensils, then the cooking pans and such.) Each catagory is done from cleanest to dirtiest item and at some point I may need to do an extra water change. I don't really stress over it, and it flows quite naturally, but I must admit that if husband is clearing the table and dumps something into the sink that is not in-sync w/ my program, then I take it out and set it on the counter for later.
My sponges graduate to more and more degrading jobs as they wear out, but that just makes good sense.Well, that is the proper way to do dishes.
I have a dishwasher now, but I used to follow the same principle when doing them by hand, i.e. cleanest to dirtiest/greasiest.

[logos]

You're kidding about the gun, right? :scared:

lol

No, I'm not kidding. I am licensed to carry concealed weapons and do so.

[Hdier]

Out of curiosity, why? Do you feel safer that way? Were you mugged before or anything like that? Give me motivation! (sorry, but I love dissecting people's psychology)

[Darklord]

I do the same thing when I play video games. I take the least likely paths first hoping to find short dead ends with hidden treasures then continue on the course.Isn't it annoying when those **** game designers suddenly decide to spring a trap on you, and, Surprise! that turn 50 minutes back? Yeah, that was the dead end. You're on the main track right now.
The pocket thing I figured applied to everyone. Wallet back left (I'm left-handed), gun front left, Keys front right, phone left belt, work phone left belt slight rear.American.

[logos]

Out of curiosity, why? Do you feel safer that way? Were you mugged before or anything like that? Give me motivation! (sorry, but I love dissecting people's psychology)I choose to do so for the simple logic that it is better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it. I am of the opinion that every person (okay every man, yes I have double standards) has the moral responsibility to take up the defense of not only self but others as well if it ever happens that they become in the presence of a forced felony -- eating or banking or whatever during a robbery, walking in on an assault/rape, etc. -- Even without a weapon, I am still the kind of person who will not stand idly by while myself or others are being victimized. In carrying my own weapon, I give myself more options in those scenarios, increasing the odds of my success.

American.
Was it the firearm or the multiple phones that indicated this?

[Hdier]

Spoken like a true INTJ (that was a complement).

I feel much the same way, though I would rather learn martial arts, so that it would be harder to take my 'weapon' away, and MUCH harder to notice my 'weapon'.

(okay every man, yes I have double standards)

Does this mean that you don't think that woman have the same moral responsibility? You were so wonderfully logical, then ruined it with prejudice. :(

[logos]

Does this mean that you don't think that woman have the same moral responsibility? You were so wonderfully logical, then ruined it with prejudice. :(

I have double standards based on gender but not without reason. I cannot fault a woman for not fighting an armed robber the same way I cannot fault a child or an unusually small/frail or otherwise disadvantaged man. It does not make sense when the odds are strongly against you -- the safer odds are hoping to survive remaining a victim rather than taking the scenario into your own hands. You'll notice I didn't say that I believe every person should carry a gun. It is a personal choice and a heavy responsibility and I can very much understand the myriad reasons why some people would rather not carry such a burden. -- But women who choose to carry guns I consider under the same obligation, or women with combat training who know how to take down someone twice their size. So, while I've stated it as a gender bias, it's really just a generalization based primarily on physical prowess among other things.

While I've tried to argue it logically and feel like I've succeeded, the truth of the matter is that this double-standard comes before 'thinking it out' in this case. It comes from some primal and instinctive place that I can only experience intuitively which tells me that women & children in my life are not at fault if they become a victim, be it of violence or starvation - I am for not providing for and protecting them. I am an advocate of women's rights who has gender bias and I'm okay with that.

[Hdier]

From what I understand, your basing the standard off of ability, not gender. Woman do have to work harder etc. in order to become equal strength that a man could achieve without as much work, but if they are able, then they should? If this is indeed what you are saying, then you are logical.

Congratulations! :)

[The Rose]

I choose to do so for the simple logic that it is better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it. I am of the opinion that every person (okay every man, yes I have double standards) has the moral responsibility to take up the defense of not only self but others as well if it ever happens that they become in the presence of a forced felony -- eating or banking or whatever during a robbery, walking in on an assault/rape, etc. -- Even without a weapon, I am still the kind of person who will not stand idly by while myself or others are being victimized. In carrying my own weapon, I give myself more options in those scenarios, increasing the odds of my success.


Was it the firearm or the multiple phones that indicated this?I am the same way, even though I am a female. I once stood up to a bully who was throwing rocks at another boy and making him cry. I was 9 years old.

[INTJoe]

Hmmm, it's hard for me to think of ways I'm "extreme INTJ-ish", because I'm 28 and I've been doing things a certain way for so long that I don't see my weird behavior as an anomoly anymore. It's just become "normal".

One thing I can think of, though, in terms of planning, that I ALWAYS do is at meals I try to pace my meal so that I do not finish any side too early. In other words, I'll eat a bite of turkey, then green beans, then potatoes, then back...until I'm left with 1 bite of each. The soda is harder for me to ration because if I run out, I'll just grab another.

But I do not like finishing a particular portion earlier than the others.

My ISTJ girlfriend does the complete opposite and will eat all the turkey first, then all the green beans then all the potatoes. To me, that is insane. Who wants to eat 12 bites of mashed potatoes one-after-the-other?!?

lol Sensors...

[The Rose]

... But I do not like finishing a particular portion earlier than the others.

My ISTJ girlfriend does the complete opposite and will eat all the turkey first, then all the green beans then all the potatoes. To me, that is insane. Who wants to eat 12 bites of mashed potatoes one-after-the-other?!?

lol Sensors...tee-hee

[INTJoe]

tee-hee

Oh, I make fun of her for it all the time. I can be heard saying "Friggin' Sensor..." when she's being unintuitive. lol.

"Friggin' Sensor..." is like my new euphymism for what used to be "Use your head!". But I do love her, and she takes care of all the little crap that I don't feel like, such as paying our bills on time and keeping our place clean and orderly. :)

[Hdier]

My ISTJ girlfriend does the complete opposite and will eat all the turkey first, then all the green beans then all the potatoes.

I'm kinda like that, because I don't want my food to be mixed up. I have to take a drink of something whenever I change foods, so that the flavor doesn't get mixed up. It's weird, because if chicken and mashed potatoes are served separately, then I don't want them mixed up, but if they are served together, then I don't mind them being mixed up.

Oh, yeah. I also will eat one thing, then another, and so on. Otherwise, the tastes will be changing constantly, which I don't like.

[INTJoe]

Oh, yeah. I also will eat one thing, then another, and so on. Otherwise, the tastes will be changing constantly, which I don't like.

That's the whole idea. The law of diminishing returns comes into play when eating. Taking 7 consecutive bites of mashed potatoes isn't nearly as rewarding as 7 singular bites, each following a bite of some other portion.

[Jedi_sena]

It's weird, because if chicken and mashed potatoes are served separately, then I don't want them mixed up, but if they are served together, then I don't mind them being mixed up.
That hits a chord with me. I don't mind pink food (such as strawberry icecream) but I absolutely detest it when white food and red food collide and turn pink. They opened a Cold Stone Creamery in our town and my brother took me there. I was mortified when I saw how the oreo cookies get smooshed into the icecream and I could not eat it. I love oreo cookie ice cream out of the bucket because the cookie bits seem to be just "born there" but as a mix-in; well that is just WRONG!
I like divided plates. Some foods go together naturally like when they smother Mexican food w/ chili, that is okay because the chili goes w/ the enchiladas, the rice, and the beans. But my corn cannot touch my mashed potatoes or I'll gross out.

[Hdier]

I tend to avoid watching food being made for that reason. Also, I prefer a bunch of seperate plates to a divided one, because

a) I never really used divided plates so now they seem weird

and

b) If I have something like meat, the 'juice' :grin: will spill over.

[Jedi_sena]

So, do you like to go to buffet where you can get as many plates as you want. I like buffet for that reason. I like that I can get a plate, put one thing on it, eat that thing while it is hot, not have food run together, and not have a pile of dishes to do later. I like saucy foods, but die if they mix. Once we went to a fondue restuarant and they gave us these little sunburst plates with tiny divisions and I was in heaven! Sauces galore and nothing got mixed. I was also really good at not cross-contaminating the raw meat fork w/ the eating fork, etc.

[The Rose]

So, do you like to go to buffet where you can get as many plates as you want. I like buffet for that reason. I like that I can get a plate, put one thing on it, eat that thing while it is hot, not have food run together, and not have a pile of dishes to do later. I like saucy foods, but die if they mix. Once we went to a fondue restuarant and they gave us these little sunburst plates with tiny divisions and I was in heaven! Sauces galore and nothing got mixed. I was also really good at not cross-contaminating the raw meat fork w/ the eating fork, etc.I don't like it when my sauces mix either, but then sometimes if they're similar, I don't mind too much - I'm thinking of a Chinese food buffet.

[Hdier]

I like Old Country Buffet- they have small plates in addition to large ones (something I have not noticed in other buffets), and great food. I'm trying to lose weight right now, though, so buffets are something I don't do (According to the government, I am overweight enough that I could develop a health issue...the government never fails to give me information that is either totally useless or I already know [U.S. gov't])

[danalaina]

yep. i'm quirky too.

i eat my M&Ms in ROYGBIV order. if i spill out a handful onto the tabletop for snacking, i eat them by quantity, too...meaning, if they're in differing quantities, i eat the excess of each color until the numbers match. then i pick them off one by one in ROYGBIV.

i find that i often organize (or subcategorize) things by color when there is no other obvious criterion (alpha, type or size). shoes, nailpolish, clothing, etc. (you can make fun of me for it, but you'll never separate this INTJ chick from her slingbacks!)

i don't like it when my food touches other food. this especially bothers me with meat dishes served over rice or when i've got salad on the plate, and the dressing migrates. when dealing with a plate with, say, three types of food on it, i don't tend to eat them in any particular order. sometimes i'll eat all of one thing first, sometimes not. it's rare that i purposefully eat two separate items at once, though.

i tend to deconstruct my food and eat it by component parts when possible. sandwiches, pizza...anything that has "parts" gets pulled apart and eaten top to bottom. this tendency has lessened a little, but i'm pretty sure that's only because i don't generally have much time to devote to ordinary meals anymore.

i used to organize my books by author and then title (or series order). alpha for CDs/DVDs. i've become completely non-sentimental about these things, though, so my love for minimalism and mid-century modern design interferes. now, CDs/DVDs go in a wallet, and books i am unlikely to pick up again soon get stored. my bookshelves only need to be tidy these days to keep me happy. with less quantity, the need to organize it to death has ceased.

i organize cabinets, pantries and fridge with items by type and/or size. this just seems logical, since you can fit more things into a neatly organized space.

i'm sure i could think of a dozen other little quirks if given enough time, but i have to go pick apart my dinner. ;)

[The Rose]

I used to not be able to eat casseroles for the very reason that people have mentioned about their food touching other foods, but my (ISTP) husband would tease me and tell me it was illogical, so I finally convinced myself to stop caring.

[Firelie]

i tend to deconstruct my food and eat it by component parts when possible. sandwiches, pizza...anything that has "parts" gets pulled apart and eaten top to bottom. this tendency has lessened a little, but i'm pretty sure that's only because i don't generally have much time to devote to ordinary meals anymore.

I used to do that with pizza, but my mom got on my case about it so much during my childhood that I don't really do it anymore...Part of that, though, is that I order my own pizzas with the stuff I like on them now that I'm (supposedly) an adult, so I don't really have any reason to pick stuff off and put it in piles.

[Danisty]

I do the same thing when I play video games. I take the least likely paths first hoping to find short dead ends with hidden treasures then continue on the course. When working on a project, like painting, i paint all the corners, edges, and other weird things first, which seems like a small % of it, but then I can uniformly roll the rest and bam its done. It just seems to make sense. I like to get the loose ends tied up before I tackle the 'meat' of a project. I figured it was a 'J' thing.I'm exactly the same way with video games. I'm probably like that with other things too, but I tend to forget my quirks because to me they aren't all that weird.

I can't have my food touching either and I always eat one thing and then move to the next in order of my least favorite item to my favorite item. Salads must always be on a separate plate and I'd rather not have a tossed salad because I like to make my own with things layered in a specific order. I'm like that with tacos and sandwiches too. Things have to go on in the right order or it doesn't taste right to me.

Presents are always unwrapped carefully and never torn. I can't stand tearing wrapping paper and I've been like this from the very beginning. It used to drive my parents crazy.

[prometheus]

I won't compromise on my ethics/morals/rights.

Not one little bit.

I guess Lights, and the other wishy washys would say I'm extreme.

[Hdier]

Yeah, Dainsty, I tend to forget them to. For example, I keep on forgetting that, when you have two zippers on the same part of your backpack, most people don't make sure that they meet in the center.

[Tarrick]

I won't compromise on my ethics/morals/rights.

Not one little bit.

I guess Lights, and the other wishy washys would say I'm extreme.

Agreed. What I hold true isn't something that I will trade or bargain away. If done once out of convenience then why not again?

[Caramel]

Hmm.. my DVD's, games and books are ordered by genre and by series. (All my sci-fi is next to eachother, all my fantasy is, all the horror..etc. If it has multiple seasons or parts those are stuck together aswell.

Then I put the ones I use most up front, and the ones I use less frequently in the back.

I always considered that pretty normal. How can you find something when you have a couple of hundred of books, films and games and you don't order them?

Clothes are ordered on what kind of clothes they are. Shoes go with shoes, pants with pants, tops with tops..etc. Again, most used at the top, least used at the bottom.

M&M's and Skilttles and Mentos (hmm..candy!) get eaten by colour. This is a pure taste issue; green and yellow fruits taste alike and so do the red and purple ones, but orange doesn't. So you have to order them otherwise it will taste like crap.

I zip backpack zippers in the center too. Why else would there be 2 zippers? (Hint: no its not a backup zipper.)

[rwyatt365]

I do the zipper-thing too;
Yeah, Dainsty, I tend to forget them to. For example, I keep on forgetting that, when you have two zippers on the same part of your backpack, most people don't make sure that they meet in the center.
I zip backpack zippers in the center too. Why else would there be 2 zippers? (Hint: no its not a backup zipper.)
I drive my wife nuts by re-zipping the zippers whenever we pack for going out of town - but she thanks me later when she has to fish something out of a bag while we're on the road.

Logic prevails! :thumbsup:

[Hdier]

Huzzah, logic!

Though, to be fair, I should say that it is a compulsion that I have to make both 'sides' equal, not for any practical reason. Also, both hands must zip up the same amount.

[rwyatt365]

I cloak my compulsion in a veil of logic in order to deflect closer scrutiny.

"No dear, it makes perfect sense! See how easy it is when they're equal?!" :thumbsup: ;)

[Danisty]

Yeah, Dainsty, I tend to forget them to. For example, I keep on forgetting that, when you have two zippers on the same part of your backpack, most people don't make sure that they meet in the center.Oh I do that too! It drives me craziest when things are nearly symmetrical.

[Caramel]

Oh yes indeed. I have a thing with asymmetrical eyebrows.. it can annoy me up to a point I actually walk over to the person having them, correcting it and going back to whatever I was doing.

[stasis]

I zip backpack zippers in the center too. Why else would there be 2 zippers? (Hint: no its not a backup zipper.)
A problem I have encountered when doing that manifests when the backpack is overloaded with heavy textbooks. When the zippers are not arranged to one side of the track or the other, and depending upon where the stitching on the bag is (and to some extent, how much use the zipper has seen), they'll tend to pull apart (unzip) and the backpack will open. So, I always zip both to one side. But I suspect you're right about the intended function.

[Caramel]

Overloaded backpacks can indeed be a problem. The obvious solution would be to buy a bigger backpack or to carry around less heavy textbooks. ;)

[Thank you captain obvious. You're welcome.]

[The Rose]

Oh yes indeed. I have a thing with asymmetrical eyebrows.. it can annoy me up to a point I actually walk over to the person having them, correcting it and going back to whatever I was doing.Not being asymmetrical used to bother me until I realized no one is perfectly symmetrical.

[Danisty]

Not being asymmetrical used to bother me until I realized no one is perfectly symmetrical.I'm not as bothered by people being asymmetrical as things being asymmetrical. For example, if you happen to be familiar with the Dairy Queen logo, has always driven me crazy. Even as a child I complained about it. They've recently changed it to fix the asymmetry but now everything else about it sucks. Here's the original though, for people who might not be familiar with it:

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What bothers me about it is that it looks like it's supposed to be symmetrical, but it's not. It's like someone was just sloppy.

[The Rose]

I'm not as bothered by people being asymmetrical as things being asymmetrical. For example, if you happen to be familiar with the Dairy Queen logo, has always driven me crazy. Even as a child I complained about it. They've recently changed it to fix the asymmetry but now everything else about it sucks. Here's the original though, for people who might not be familiar with it:

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What bothers me about it is that it looks like it's supposed to be symmetrical, but it's not. It's like someone was just sloppy.Poor you. That's awful!
I never noticed it was asymmetrical!

It's just a D & a Q now?

[Hdier]

That logo would drive me nuts. I'm glad they changed it. It would've tricked me at first, which would've only increased my annoyance.

[Danisty]

Poor you. That's awful!
I never noticed it was asymmetrical!

It's just a D & a Q now?I would apologize for ruining it for you by bringing it up, but they changed the logo. They fixed the assymetry of that shape and changed it to just DQ, but they have stupid looking swooshes on it now. Oh well, it may be ugly, but it's more balanced.

That logo would drive me nuts. I'm glad they changed it. It would've tricked me at first, which would've only increased my annoyance.Yes! It's like a lie!

[Booko]

Yup, when I could eat M&Ms I ate them in a particular color order, even when in a dark movie theater.

I stopped eating them about the time blue came out, but it was pretty much in order of my favorite colors. I saved the best for last.

My hard drive is immaculate. Wish I could say the same for the house, but other people live here and there's only so much maid service I care to provide. I could be online or reading more, you know?

[INTJoe]

I'm not as bothered by people being asymmetrical as things being asymmetrical. For example, if you happen to be familiar with the Dairy Queen logo, has always driven me crazy. Even as a child I complained about it. They've recently changed it to fix the asymmetry but now everything else about it sucks. Here's the original though, for people who might not be familiar with it:

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What bothers me about it is that it looks like it's supposed to be symmetrical, but it's not. It's like someone was just sloppy.


They felt that this logo was totally justified.

Right-justified, that is. ZING.

Wow, that was terrible MS Word humor. That is like the lowest form of "humor". :)

[Booko]

I used to not be able to eat casseroles for the very reason that people have mentioned about their food touching other foods, but my (ISTP) husband would tease me and tell me it was illogical, so I finally convinced myself to stop caring.

Hm, is eating like a toddler an INTJ thing? My friends make fun of how I eat. I don't like my food touching. I eat the protein, turn the plate a bit, eat the starch, turn the plate, eat the veggies.

Oh god I'm OCD about eating even. Help!





Booko added to this post, 4 minutes and 38 seconds later...

Hmm.. my DVD's, games and books are ordered by genre and by series. (All my sci-fi is next to eachother, all my fantasy is, all the horror..etc. If it has multiple seasons or parts those are stuck together aswell.

Then I put the ones I use most up front, and the ones I use less frequently in the back.

I always considered that pretty normal. How can you find something when you have a couple of hundred of books, films and games and you don't order them?

Yeah, we have about 5000 books in the house still. I used to organize by Dewey Decimal or alpha for fiction when it was in the hundreds. Now they are grouped in areas by type. My cookbooks are arranged by cuisine -- geographically.

M&M's and Skilttles and Mentos (hmm..candy!) get eaten by colour. This is a pure taste issue; green and yellow fruits taste alike and so do the red and purple ones, but orange doesn't. So you have to order them otherwise it will taste like crap.


I've always maintained to my husband that I could tell the difference between the taste of a red M&M and a green one. He never believed me, so we did the blind taste test thing and now he doesn't argue with me.

Red ones are best.

I zip backpack zippers in the center too. Why else would there be 2 zippers? (Hint: no its not a backup zipper.)

I center them too. If I didn't, it would take longer to search which side of the backpack the zipper pulls were on.

Anyone read "Cheaper by the Dozen"? Nevermind the awful recent movie, or the older one with Clifton Webb. Read the book. Anyone who likes efficiency will appreciate it. :D





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Oh yes indeed. I have a thing with asymmetrical eyebrows.. it can annoy me up to a point I actually walk over to the person having them, correcting it and going back to whatever I was doing.

I straighten pictures in other people's homes. I try to do it when they aren't looking.

ANd it drives me nuts when artwork is hung wrong -- it's usually too high. It should be at average eye-level.

[Sylvanus]

I am glad I'm not alone in this. I didn't realized other people were like me (except OCD people). My CD's are organized alphabetically by category and release date, my movies are all alphabetical, except for the kids movie binder, they are all organized by animated/nonanimated, then also the Disney has its own section, and the Veggietales do too. Disney is organized by whether it is a classic, or made within the last 15 years, and the non-feature film ones (Pooh, Baby Einstein's etc.). My books are organized by category, then by series and size, it's all very complicated. My closet is organized by occasion and color. All of the shirts have to face left.

I am better than when I was younger, but I still do odd things. When I was really young I had a thing where I would interlock my fingers in strange patterns in a particular order. I can't even recall how I used to do it. I also have a habit of ripping apart words in my head and reorganizing them in certain ways. Each letter has a 'point value' (a qualitative value) that sometimes change when they are placed next to certain other letters. It's so ingrained in me I can't even explain how I do it. To me it's kind of like a background process in Windows, that eats up processor bandwidth and doesn't really serve a function, but I can't get it to close the program.

I am not as anal about my food placement, but I don't like the mixxing of flavors. I am incredibly picky. I have 'sensory issues', where the texture of certain foods in my mouth feels wrong. I won't eat most fruits, I tolerate some vegetable but they have to be served just right.

I am not an incredibly neat person. I like to have things clean and organized, but I dislike having to maintain it. I usually let things go for a couple days, then clean everything at once before it gets too bad.

[The Rose]

I straighten pictures in other people's homes. I try to do it when they aren't looking.

And it drives me nuts when artwork is hung wrong -- it's usually too high. It should be at average eye-level.LOL! Great post!
I straighten pictures in other people's houses, too!

[Jedi_sena]

These most recent posts reminded me that I maintain our household phone list and group things in categories and then in alphabetical order. My husband can't use it and so I maintain another list for him that has no categories, just alphabetic. But my list has neighbors, friends, family, out-of-town family, businesses, etc. as categories. The traditional filing systems are great when multiple people use and maintain them, but I can find a number so much easier on my more complicated list, then on the strictly alphabetic list.

[xhaan]

I arrange my M&amp;Ms and eat them in a specific order. If one of the piles of color isn't the same number as the rest, I eat the amount of them that will make them equal, then after that I eat one from each pile in accordance with the color spectrum. You have no idea how happy I was when they finally added blue to the M&amp;M colors. Now they just need to ditch brown and put violet in, and it would be perfect (I'm talking about regular M&amp;Ms, by the way)

I don't arrange my spices, though, cuz I don't have many, and I can't see naming my kids in alphabetical order or having them be born on holidays, though.


I do the same with candy, but I turn the piles into symmetrical geometric shapes also.

[Hdier]

I'm not sure if this qualifies, but it's late and I feel like sharing...

I personify just about everything. I'll apologize to chairs and desks when I bump into them, and feel guilty when I throw my controller because I'm upset, it's basically the same as if I had beat on my dog, then felt guilty about it later (I don't beat on my dog, but it would evoke a similar reaction, which would in turn be similar to the one I would feel if I ever obtained a child and beat on him/her).

[xhaan]

I'm not sure if this qualifies, but it's late and I feel like sharing...

I personify just about everything. I'll apologize to chairs and desks when I bump into them, and feel guilty when I throw my controller because I'm upset, it's basically the same as if I had beat on my dog, then felt guilty about it later (I don't beat on my dog, but it would evoke a similar reaction, which would in turn be similar to the one I would feel if I ever obtained a child and beat on him/her).

Haha! sorry.. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing because this is like me. I had a Gameboy, and used to play tetris on it to perfection... but one time I couldn't get to my high score for some reason, (getting to level 100+ on secret hard mode while making as many tetris as possible)

I couldn't get the biggest rocket again, for some reason, it seemed like I'd screw up no matter how hard I tried... then I punched the screen. And oh man, you'd think I punched a baby or something, it cracked the screen and I almost cried, because I 'hurt' the Gameboy. I didn't intend to break it, just give it a firm rap on the screen, but it split the LCD and it leaked out.

Luckily I was able to take it to a place that refurbishes them and trade it in for a new (used but not broken) one.

[Pinkie]

^Ha! I do that! I thought I was the only one! I might take it to slightly more insane extremes, though - I took my pot-plant home for Christmas because I didn't want it to feel lonely for three weeks.

[rwyatt365]

I personify just about everything. I'll apologize to chairs and desks when I bump into them, and feel guilty when I throw my controller because I'm upset, it's basically the same as if I had beat on my dog, then felt guilty about it later (I don't beat on my dog, but it would evoke a similar reaction, which would in turn be similar to the one I would feel if I ever obtained a child and beat on him/her).
I don't apologize to the things that I might bump into but I do criticize myself for bumping into them. "Smooth move, Ex-Lax!", or "Don't you watch where you're going?" are common things that I say to myself for doing something clumsy.

[Hdier]

"Smooth move, Ex-Lax!"

:groans: Whenever I do something clumsy around my dad (happens 2-3 times a day) he says this, and he has a way of making things very old, very fast...and he's been using it for over a year now.

[Paul V]

:groans: Whenever I do something clumsy around my dad (happens 2-3 times a day) he says this, and he has a way of making things very old, very fast...and he's been using it for over a year now.

Sounds like me and my dad, only you get silent disapproval at the moment and then mocking remark later when someone else is present.

[Hdier]

My dad doesn't give me any silent disapproval. He can be very vocal about it. Somehow, we tend to make each other very emotional (usually something like grumpy or angry) if we're around each other for more than an hour or so. Both of us tend not to display our emotions so much in other situations (I think he's an ISTX).

[Paul V]

My dad doesn't give me any silent disapproval. He can be very vocal about it. Somehow, we tend to make each other very emotional (usually something like grumpy or angry) if we're around each other for more than an hour or so. Both of us tend not to display our emotions so much in other situations (I think he's an ISTX).

Yeah, I remember you telling me that. My dad's an ISTJ, and he's pretty much a rock with life and sentience. He has a watered down personality. He doesn't talk much, doesn't express himself much, and he has simple tastes. But he's alright, I suppose. He's solid and stoic, something I'd wish I could be.

[Blacklustre King]

I’ am highly compulsive about arranging my room to be efficiently spacious and cozy. Wiring from electronics must be unknotted and seamlessly strewn through their respective areas in such a way that whether they are exposed or not they are pleasing on the eyes.

My television and speakers must be facing the outside wall to ensure that sound escaping my room in minimal and my couch must be situated directly in front of my television. From desks to chairs and even my couch and stands must all sit angular never diagonally.

My windows must be covered by thick curtains that encompass the entire window to prevent outside light or wandering eyes from intruding.

How’s that?





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I consider beds inefficient wastes of space so I refuse to own one and rather sleep in my floor with or without any padding, I’ am used to the hard surfaces now.

I refuse to own a car for the inefficient cost and maintenance. I prefer to walk for I accomplish systematic goals in the process. I only have to purchase food and drink not gas and car insurance, I get exercise which ensures my body and mind remain efficient. If I ever actually need to ride a long distance, two hundred plus miles, I can car pool with an associate who shares a similar objective.

[Paul V]

How’s that?

I was shocked at first, but then I realised I would be exactly like you if I owned my own place. I agree about the car but I completely and utterly disagree about beds. I am able to sleep anywhere, but I love soft, comfortable beds, the larger the better. I know it sounds innefficient, but when you're too big for a normal bed, or you're always uncomfortable no matter how you sleep, you begin to appreciate those kinds of beds.

[Sylvanus]

I refuse to own a car for the inefficient cost and maintenance. I prefer to walk for I accomplish systematic goals in the process.

Cost/benefit analysis...
I may spend thousands of dollars a year on my car, but the hundreds of hours I save more than make up for the expense.

[Blacklustre King]

Time to me is an expendable and costless commodity. The amount of time I use getting from place to place becomes irrelevant when weighed against my ultimate benefits of physical and mental health and cost effectiveness. The distances I need to travel, thanks to the acute placement of my place of residence I can access everything I need to access without needing to worry about the constraints of a time testing schedule.

With the thousands of dollars I save not having a car I can purchase and live my life comfortably, correction, more comfortably. I’ am able to use my extra revenue to fund my organization.

I' am the definition of an INTJ as we all are.

[Sylvanus]

Time to me is an expendable and costless commodity. The amount of time I use getting from place to place becomes irrelevant when weighed against my ultimate benefits of physical and mental health and cost effectiveness. The distances I need to travel, thanks to the acute placement of my place of residence I can access everything I need to access without needing to worry about the constraints of a time testing schedule.

With the thousands of dollars I save not having a car I can purchase and live my life comfortably, correction, more comfortably. I’ am able to use my extra revenue to fund my organization.

I' am the definition of an INTJ as we all are.

I suppose it all depends on your priorities. I enjoy destinations, not journeys. Time is my most precious commodity, I dislike squandering it. I am careful with my money, but for me the convenience is worth the price. Before the necessities of the family forced me to upgrade, I had a $2000 prelude that sipped gas. Without any car it would have turned a 30 minute commute to work into a 3 hour ordeal, switching busses mutiple times. That was 4 years ago when I was in the military and worked almost 80 hours a week. It would have been easier to sleep at work than to go home. I could probably survive easily without a car now, if it was just me. It would take less time to bike to work than to take a bus. But I refuse to go grocery shopping and carry $150 worth of groceries home every week on a bus (or bike).

[xhaan]

Time to me is an expendable and costless commodity. The amount of time I use getting from place to place becomes irrelevant when weighed against my ultimate benefits of physical and mental health and cost effectiveness. The distances I need to travel, thanks to the acute placement of my place of residence I can access everything I need to access without needing to worry about the constraints of a time testing schedule.

With the thousands of dollars I save not having a car I can purchase and live my life comfortably, correction, more comfortably. I’ am able to use my extra revenue to fund my organization.

I' am the definition of an INTJ as we all are.


Time is not expendable, or costless. You are just willing to part with it more easily than others, and are benefited by the fact that is doesn't 'cost' you 'much' (everything is close by).

I theorize that if it took you 10 hours to get to a place in order to trade for commodities/food (things you need), that you would value your time a lot more because you would have to either spend more time during your trading sessions to make it worth while (and therefore have to carry more back with you), you would raise/make your own items which you need (still costing you time), or you would simply relocate because your time does matter to you.

[Blacklustre King]

Time to ME is an expendable and costless commodity.

I never quoted time as being relatively or mutually less important or valuable to others besides myself.

Of course I would relocate; it would be foolish even if you had a car to have to drive that kind of distance to buy and trade goods and services.

Ten hours would be a thirty mile drive (I’ve walked thirty miles in ten hours so I know.) Gas prices would not permit anyone with sense to continue living at such a distance from commodities they require to sustain their own existence. This would not only be inefficient but completely illogical.

Sorry about any confusion or animosity I have created with my earlier post.

[cielo market]

Not sure if this is "extreme," but...

I don't bother with displaying (text/word-based) brands and such on my person. I much rather prefer to wear logos/symbols that refer to things I like that only certain people would understand or obsess over "inside jokes." I choose to be indirect in my appearance this way. Or maybe it's the designer in me :p

For example, my notebooks used to have strange phrases like "AJA AJA FIGHTING" and "La grenouille mange le pamplemousse"

I have this tiny button and this small faded design on my messenger bag:
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I have this as a key chain: (I suppose only Texans would get this one heh)
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One of my favorite shirts features this logo:
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Props to you if you recognize them! :thumbsup:
(...without cheating by checking the url's) :laugh:

[Vicimdhar]

^Ha