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rasoirviolon
10-03-2007, 12:05 AM
Starting this topic goes against my usual tendency to remain hidden ...but I suppose a brief introduction would be appropriate just to go with the flow. I've been browsing this forum for the past few days and finally mustered the "courage" to be involved. A few years back I was categorised as ISTP; this seems not to be the case based on the more recent results I've received. Upon reflection, at this point of my life, I think I fit comfortably as an INTJ.
I chose the userID "rasoirviolon" as a french translation from my usual "razorviolin." "Rasoir" comes from the philosophical principle of Occam's/Ockham's Razor ... and "violon" just because I play the violin (as well as viola, piano and guitar).
Jezebel
10-03-2007, 12:35 AM
Glad you decided to come out from the shadows...welcome to the forum!
Do you think you were an ISTP that switched into an INTJ, or do you think you were mistyped all along?
Tarrick
10-03-2007, 12:40 AM
Fear not, for we are not that cruel or evil! We have cookie around here somewhere...
Anyways, welcome. ;D
rasoirviolon
10-03-2007, 12:42 AM
Glad you decided to come out from the shadows...welcome to the forum!
Do you think you were an ISTP that switched into an INTJ, or do you think you were mistyped all along?
I'd go with the former. With life comes a certian sceptism and I suppose that led from my transformation of Perceiving to Judging. Have you consistently maintained an INTJ personality?
Jezebel
10-03-2007, 12:57 AM
I'd go with the former. With life comes a certian sceptism and I suppose that led from my transformation of Perceiving to Judging. Have you consistently maintained an INTJ personality?
I originally typed myself as an INTP. The more stable my life became, the more I identified with judging preferences. I don't know that my personality changed though, it could have just been more difficult to tell with instability.
And milk Tarrick? Cookies taste better with milk!
Anyways...
I think I've always been INTJ... and became less so since I was younger, as "many (INTJs) also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality." :thumbsup:
Anyhow, welcome to the forum! ;D
rwyatt365
10-03-2007, 07:34 AM
And milk Tarrick? *Cookies taste better with milk!
Anyways...
I think I've always been INTJ... and became less so since I was younger, as "many (INTJs) also find it useful to learn to simulate some degree of surface conformism in order to mask their inherent unconventionality." *:thumbsup:
Anyhow, welcome to the forum! *;D
...or tea, perhaps - tea and cookies isn't bad either.
Anyway, welcome to the forum!
Hi, I just joined the forum and randomly clicked on an introduction entry... (coincidence? nah, i don't believe in that kind of crap...)
Anyway I also was an ISTP before (did the test myself about 2 years ago). Recently redid the test and it now clearly shows an INTJ profile. In those 2 years I did a lot self-exploration and got in touch with NLP. This really opened my eyes and I started viewing people in a different light. I also got in touch with myself a lot more.
I'm curious, what do you think that triggered the change from ISTP to INTJ?
Jezebel
10-07-2007, 07:25 PM
Welcome...
Anyway I also was an ISTP before (did the test myself about 2 years ago). Recently redid the test and it now clearly shows an INTJ profile. *In those 2 years I did a lot self-exploration and got in touch with NLP. This really opened my eyes and I started viewing people in a different light. I also got in touch with myself a lot more.
I'm curious, what do you think that triggered the change from ISTP to INTJ?
Not sure, but you aren't the first one here who previously typed as an ISTP. There are a lot of similarities between the types... have you read this site before? http://www.bestfittype.com/istp_intpintj.html
Do you think that sounds accurate?
rasoirviolon
10-07-2007, 07:40 PM
ISTPs are sometimes typed to be closeted "daredevils" and may have a secret desire to act spontaneously; over time, I've lost any impulsiveness to act randomly. Certain childhood experiences have bred in me a fear that has caused my sense of adventure to evaporate (though my curiosity still remains).
I still have a drive to understand how things work but I've also developed interest in theorising and taking concepts (as well as concrete objects) apart. Sometimes when ISTPs are over-stressed they react by sharing their feelings (most often in an inappropriate way) with others; now I'm the direct opposite of that. Sharing feelings to me has become incredibly foreign and I can't say I want to go back to that.
Since my introversion has greatly increased, I seem more of a stranger to everyone around me; the judging factor in me has caused me to withdraw into myself even more. It seems that my introversion caused the other factors to change.
What's your story?
@ Jezebel, thanks for the link, I'll take a closer look when i get the opportunity...
@ rasoirviolon:
My story seems different. I used to be held back a lot because people didn't react accordingly to my views. This made me a bit uncertain on the social front. One of the eye openers I got is when I realized that I was judging people too much. This believe also led to the believe that people were judging me and created a sens of "being different". Over the years i have removed many of these "judging" believes and it certainly made me feel much more comfortable within the society.
Additionally, I've been studying NLP practices (at a basic level) which opened my eyes on how and why people act and react (I can't go into details, it's too vast of an subject). This also made me genuinely interested in other people and taught me that subconsciousness and non-verbal communication plays a huge role in most people. It allowed me to approach people easier and in a way they expected to be approached. This was especially true for emotionally oriented people. I'm still struggling with the being spontaneous bit though...
How this correlates to a change from ISTP to INTJ, I have no clue. But perhaps I'm not a real INTJ, I still have to read Jezebel's article..
Welcome...
Anyway I also was an ISTP before (did the test myself about 2 years ago). Recently redid the test and it now clearly shows an INTJ profile. In those 2 years I did a lot self-exploration and got in touch with NLP. This really opened my eyes and I started viewing people in a different light. I also got in touch with myself a lot more.
I'm curious, what do you think that triggered the change from ISTP to INTJ?
Not sure, but you aren't the first one here who previously typed as an ISTP. There are a lot of similarities between the types... have you read this site before? http://www.bestfittype.com/istp_intpintj.html
Do you think that sounds accurate?
Hi, to follow up on this, I read the article and it mentions ISTP's who pretend to be INTJ/INTP's. Perhaps its true, but I just don't have the feeling that I'm pretending to be anything else then myself. I reread several ISTP profiles and they strongly remind me of the person I was a couple of years ago. I also did some internet tests and got mixed INTJ/INTP results. Does this make sense to anyone??? *sigh*
Jezebel
10-14-2007, 04:57 PM
Hi, to follow up on this, I read the article and it mentions ISTP's who pretend to be INTJ/INTP's. Perhaps its true, but I just don't have the feeling that I'm pretending to be anything else then myself. I reread several ISTP profiles and they strongly remind me of the person I was a couple of years ago. I also did some internet tests and got mixed INTJ/INTP results. Does this make sense to anyone??? *sigh*
I don't think the article means to imply anyone is intentionally pretending to be another type. Just that due to having similar traits (perhaps for different underlying reasons) and sometimes sharing similar interests, they can be lookalikes.
In the end, I only think the MBTI is useful if you can relate to your type description and use it to better understand yourself and others. I relate to some of the other descriptions as well, but find the INTJ description most useful when looking at my problem areas and how I relate to other people. Is it possible that I mistyped? Maybe, but I don't see the point in pursuing it if I find it less useful.
Hi, to follow up on this, I read the article and it mentions ISTP's who pretend to be INTJ/INTP's. Perhaps its true, but I just don't have the feeling that I'm pretending to be anything else then myself. I reread several ISTP profiles and they strongly remind me of the person I was a couple of years ago. I also did some internet tests and got mixed INTJ/INTP results. Does this make sense to anyone??? *sigh*
I don't think the article means to imply anyone is intentionally pretending to be another type. Just that due to having similar traits (perhaps for different underlying reasons) and sometimes sharing similar interests, they can be lookalikes.
In the end, I only think the MBTI is useful if you can relate to your type description and use it to better understand yourself and others. I relate to some of the other descriptions as well, but find the INTJ description most useful when looking at my problem areas and how I relate to other people. Is it possible that I mistyped? Maybe, but I don't see the point in pursuing it if I find it less useful.
Yes, you're right, there is no point in pursuing. Just made me a feel a bit awkward, pretending to be an INTJ whilst maybe I'm not. Anyway I changed my MBTI to INTx. I had rather changed it too ISTP/INTJ/INTP but only 4 characters are allowed :)
rasoirviolon
10-14-2007, 06:10 PM
IjzerenHein... i tend to get mixed results. those exact three by the way. ;) ... personally i feel i fit it the most as an INTJ but there are certain INTP traits that show themselves when the occasion calls for it.
IjzerenHein... i tend to get mixed results. those exact three by the way. ;) ... personally i feel i fit it the most as an INTJ but there are certain INTP traits that show themselves when the occasion calls for it.
I too feel that INTJ fits me best. When I read the INTP/ISTP profile some of it fits and other parts don't. I guess it just means we are borderline on both N/S and P/J.
Hooraaaa for diversity :D
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