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Monte314
06-28-2008, 01:46 PM
Does anyone like "paper-and-pencil" games? Things like crossword puzzles, Sudoku, etc.?

And what about "manual games"? Things like Rubik's Cube, the 15-tile puzzle, etc.?

TheLastMohican
06-28-2008, 01:52 PM
Does anyone like "paper-and-pencil" games? Things like crossword puzzles, Sudoku, etc.?

And what about "manual games"? Things like Rubik's Cube, the 15-tile puzzle, etc.?

Crossword puzzles are okay. Sudoku is a bore.

I love the 15-tile puzzle. I got my time down to about 20 seconds, and then I lost it. I hope I find it sometime soon.

I learned how to solve the Rubik's cube by the standard layer-by-layer method, and got my time down to about a minute or a minute-and-a-half. Then I quit that method (awfully repetitive) and started learning the Petrus method. I currently have forgotten some of the algorithms for the layer-by-layer method, and I have not had proper time to finish learning the Petrus method, so right now I cannot solve it at all. I plan to get good at that too, though.

Seppuku Savant
06-28-2008, 10:10 PM
I learned how to solve the Rubik's cube by the standard layer-by-layer method, and got my time down to about a minute or a minute-and-a-half.

I literally bought a Rubik's cube today. I'm going to start learning the layer by layer method. Crosswords can be fun. Only if I'm in the mood.





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Is it out of place to say, I really love traditional wooden pencils?

Homini Lupus
06-29-2008, 05:38 AM
Last time I saw a Rubrik's cube the man who had it in his hands tore it into pieces and started throwing them at the girl near him, discovering accidentally a very interesting lateral way to solve it: you unbuild it then you rebuild it with the right faces.

Marja
06-29-2008, 09:20 PM
Last time I saw a Rubrik's cube the man who had it in his hands tore it into pieces and started throwing them at the girl near him, discovering accidentally a very interesting lateral way to solve it: you unbuild it then you rebuild it with the right faces.

It's harder to do that with newer cubes, unless (I've heard) you buy the kind you build yourself.

I can solve layer by layer, but it's boring and slow. I'm trying to teach myself the algorithms for the other method.

15 tile puzzles, I've never tried those...

Homini Lupus
06-30-2008, 01:15 AM
Paint is another possible solution with newer cubes. Tey'll never put my mind in a box.

Seppuku Savant
06-30-2008, 07:10 AM
Last time I saw a Rubrik's cube the man who had it in his hands tore it into pieces and started throwing them at the girl near him, discovering accidentally a very interesting lateral way to solve it: you unbuild it then you rebuild it with the right faces.

ha ha That's hilarious. Poor girl. = p What is the point of doing it that way though?

emanon
06-30-2008, 08:45 AM
I generally do some sort of pencil-and-paper variety puzzle before I go to bed each night. Sudoku's okay. I really like other Japanese logic puzzles like Hashi and Hitori better. Other logic and word puzzles are good too. I've dabbled in writing crostic puzzles.

Rubik's & 15-tile I'm not so big on.

TheLastMohican
06-30-2008, 08:58 AM
It's harder to do that with newer cubes, unless (I've heard) you buy the kind you build yourself.

To make things more difficult, you have to take apart the cube in order to lubricate it to make it easier to take apart. One way you can break in the cube without taking it apart is this:

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I can solve layer by layer, but it's boring and slow. I'm trying to teach myself the algorithms for the other method.


The Petrus method doesn't have any additional algorithms. You follow a basic pattern, but you figure your own way through each step (until you reach the top layer, when you revert to the layer-by-layer algorithm).