Hi, I'm an INTJ Scientist

[undeniablyINTJ]

Hi I'm male, married, 37, an INTJ, and a successful scientist. Since my personality type makes me unique, I thought I'd try to learn how other INTJs deal with this. It's not always easy.

[Firelie]

Welcome to the forum, then! I'm sure there's enough conversation here for you to learn how INTJ's deal with ANYTHING. :D

[thegnat]

Hi I'm male, married, 37, an INTJ, and a successful scientist. Since my personality type makes me unique, I thought I'd try to learn how other INTJs deal with this. It's not always easy.

Welcome :)

What kind of science?!

PS I'm a chem major.

[mind_wander]

Welcome, osborn.

[Ijz]

Welcome,

Successful scientist? You mean as in major breakthroughs? I'd like to hear more about that :)

[undeniablyINTJ]

Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm looking forward to this forum.

I do Low Temperature Physics Research. The people who are interested tend to be 1)scientists themselves, 2) people who are interested in meeting a physicist because it is new (like going to the zoo), or 3)a person who had considered physics as a major (am I cynical or what :)). Even if I talk about Science with analogies, and at a popular news story level, most people are speechless afterwards. As a result I normally avoid talking about it. This I would imagine that a Chem Major would have a similar experience.

I've recently picked up archery as a hobby, and that is more fun to discuss freely.

By the way IjzerenHein, I think I'm successful because of important steps forward rather than major breakthroughs (I'm not hoping for a Nobel prize or anything). What kind of chem do you study thegnat?

[GOD]

Hi I'm male, married, 37, an INTJ, and a successful scientist. *Since my personality type makes me unique, I thought I'd try to learn how other INTJs deal with this. *It's not always easy.

Actually it gets easy when your surrounded by other intj's... at work I have a cluster of them... and they are so "kick ar*e" that even I'm timid in comparison.

The biggest thing in life is to understand other people and their motives and emotions... once you understand them then you can chill a bit and slowly become a bit more adaptive.

If you take the philosophy that however people lead their lives doesn't matter as we all end up in the ground anyway.... then you'll realize everyone is just using their limited years on this planet to the best effect that they can comprehend.

Certain people you might not relate to… but it’s these same people that work in occupations such as nurses, and do some outstandingly good things for society, for little reward.

[Rei]

I do Low Temperature Physics Research. The people who are interested tend to be 1)scientists themselves, 2) people who are interested in meeting a physicist because it is new (like going to the zoo), or 3)a person who had considered physics as a major (am I cynical or what :)). Even if I talk about Science with analogies, and at a popular news story level, most people are speechless afterwards. As a result I normally avoid talking about it. This I would imagine that a Chem Major would have a similar experience.

I've recently picked up archery as a hobby, and that is more fun to discuss freely.

By the way IjzerenHein, I think I'm successful because of important steps forward rather than major breakthroughs (I'm not hoping for a Nobel prize or anything). What kind of chem do you study thegnat?
How to deal? I think I just don't care enough about other people to need to 'deal'
I've found that when I meet INTJs we naturally gravitate toward each other though.

Physics totally rules all sciences, physics people are also usually very cool :thumbsup:
Unfortunately my current major doesn't have any required physics courses anymore.

Archery was something I really wanted to do in high school. I haven't had a chance to go back at it since I left the school after a year.

Progress = Success
Though I think I, as an INTJ's would usually need the final breakthrough. It's a great motivation.

Enough rambling...
Welcome to the forum!

[thegnat]

Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm looking forward to this forum.

I do Low Temperature Physics Research. The people who are interested tend to be 1)scientists themselves, 2) people who are interested in meeting a physicist because it is new (like going to the zoo), or 3)a person who had considered physics as a major (am I cynical or what :)). Even if I talk about Science with analogies, and at a popular news story level, most people are speechless afterwards. As a result I normally avoid talking about it. This I would imagine that a Chem Major would have a similar experience.
You're right I know *exactly* where you're coming from.

That's cool awesome (had to prevent lame joke) :) At low temperatures some funky stuff has to happen and I'm sure if I knew more about it it would be quite interesting :) Everything's OK at 0K, right? ouch! groan! slaps self!

I've recently picked up archery as a hobby, and that is more fun to discuss freely.
Ah, archery, that's cool. Yeah, I can discuss tennis quite a lot easier than chemistry with people :)

By the way IjzerenHein, I think I'm successful because of important steps forward rather than major breakthroughs (I'm not hoping for a Nobel prize or anything). What kind of chem do you study thegnat?
I think if we measured success by major breakthroughs 90% of scientists would be failures haha We've gotta appreciate the important steps forward ;)

I'm a third year right now studying (presently) Physical (I keep wanting to write physics instead of physical! gah! just did it again!) Chemistry and Inorganic chemistry (and physics as another of my classes). I'll take quantum chem in the Spring and Chem research in the Spring (and continue physics).

What I'll be researching in the spring is Inorganic Photochemistry. Most likely luminescence of variations on a compound. My end of the semester project will kind of start that.

I also want to go to grad school for a PhD. Definitely more towards the inorganic/physical side of chemistry. I am not made for organic syntheses. I'm very interested in alternate forms of energy. Which is what the prof I'm researching for is very interested in so it's a perfect project for me. I've been really enjoying Inorganic lab though. It's been a lot of fun. A LOT more so than gen chem and organic lab.

[rwyatt365]

Welcome!

It seems like we have a few scientists, or fledgling scientists here. You're in good company.

[Ijz]

Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm looking forward to this forum.

I do Low Temperature Physics Research. The people who are interested tend to be 1)scientists themselves, 2) people who are interested in meeting a physicist because it is new (like going to the zoo), or 3)a person who had considered physics as a major (am I cynical or what :)). Even if I talk about Science with analogies, and at a popular news story level, most people are speechless afterwards. As a result I normally avoid talking about it. This I would imagine that a Chem Major would have a similar experience.

I've recently picked up archery as a hobby, and that is more fun to discuss freely.

By the way IjzerenHein, I think I'm successful because of important steps forward rather than major breakthroughs (I'm not hoping for a Nobel prize or anything). What kind of chem do you study thegnat?
I'm sorry I wasn't implying that success equals major breakthroughs at all. I'm just a physics enthusiast and I'm just really curious what kind of work you do. Physics was actually my second love but I chose to take the Computer Science road instead. Could you share one of your important steps forward with us, I'd love to hear it :)

[kitcat]

Hi I'm male, married, 37, an INTJ, and a successful scientist. Since my personality type makes me unique, I thought I'd try to learn how other INTJs deal with this. It's not always easy.

hello...i'm quite new to this forum...same age as you...

i think i have a scientist's brain but i'm more arts/humanities/literature oriented. right now i'm quite interested in linguistics b/c i have subjects i can study...my sons. haha. the way they learn is so fascinating to me.

anyway, just wanted to say hi...or aloha!

[undeniablyINTJ]

I'm glad there are many scientists and science fans here :). Also glad to hear someone (thegnat) is working on alternative energies. That sounds interesting :thumbsup:. I'm also glad to hear someone is interested in arts/humanities/literature and kids 8-). I enjoy reading Jack Reacher (detective) novels and my kids, boys 5 & 8 yrs, keep me busy with activities such as cub scouts and swimming.

OK, here is a quick version of what I do. If you skip down further, I'll have something on Bowhunting!

Physicists are interested in using quantum states (e.g. atomic states that you studied in high school chemistry) as the basis for computing. In today's computers the classical bit (in state 0 or 1) is the basis, but in a quantum bit (qubit), the basis can be a combination of both states. Whereas a classical bit has two states (0 or 1), the quantum bit has an infinite number states which can be pictured as a location on a sphere. That degree of freedom and rules for operations and measurements laid out in quantum mechanics (which are even nonintuitive for physicists, which is why Einstein had many objections) allows researchers to do certain computations faster (in theory only thus far, and by the way some computer scientists work in the field of quantum computing algorithms now).

I research a superconducting circuit implementation of qubits. My devices are fabricated using techniques similar those used in making circuits in your computer. However, these devices exhibit quantized states (unlike those of our computer chips, but like quantized states of an atom) due to low dissipation materials (e.g. the superconducting wires) and the low temperatures (close to absolute zero). I have developed a circuit to study the quantum dissipation in circuits, which should be helpful to improve todays superconducting qubits.

OK, now on archery and bowhunting... I'm just getting into this but it is a blast. I've joined an archery club that has 3D shoots (shooting at rubber animals from unspecified distances in the woods). Also, I have a friend who is showing me the ropes of hunting deer. My interest is probably related to me playing in the woods as a kid, and the scenery is beautiful in the woods with the leaves changing, animals crawling/flying around, and breezes blowing over the hills. Also, it appeals to my goal oriented side.

[thegnat]

Ah since you did such an awesome explanation of your research :thumbsup: Great work, too :thumbsup: (and I was so right in thinking you were going to be nearing 0K! woot! hehe)

I shall explain mine a bit more...

I'm basically working on a project that's overall goal is to kind of make a man-made photosynthesis (using something other than chlorophyll) so we can split water into hydrogen and oxygen for hydrogen fuel cells without producing emissions by using fossil-fuel run electricity to produce the hydrogen. That way it is a *totally* green process.

And then at the end of the semester I'm basically putting something in a surfactant (because it forms micelles and apparently it only luminesces in a surfactant that we know of) to see how it luminesces (or glows bwahaha) so it can segway to the spring :)

The molecule I'm working with is known to tag DNA by intercalating into DNA with the guanine base (reminds self to explain that in the introduction of her lab report today). [Pt(terpy)Cl]+ and derivatives. There's a ton of work being done with this. If you want any more info, just ask :) heck, I'm on my 10th page of my lab report and not done so I should know *something* about it. hehe

[rwyatt365]

All that chemistry-talk - makes me dizzy [smiley=faint.gif]
Makes me glad I got into something easy like IT ;D

[Ijz]

Wow thats some interesting stuff of both of you. :)

So undeniably, just to verify that I understand. The circuit you worked on detects the undesirable quantum state change (due to dissipation) of other circuits? And this allows for testing and thus building better circuits with less dissipation?

Actually, I've been working on alternative energies too. In fact I've been working on it all night.............oh wait...there it goes.....
*holds nose and waves hand*

Unfortunately I'm not in science myself but in engineering so I won't bother you with that (unless you really wanna know *wink* *wink*).

[undeniablyINTJ]

That's great thegnat. I remember reading about extracting hydrogen from water using solar energy, and I think it sounds really great. I would love to have a fuel cell car some day.

IjzerenHein, you got it right. The circuit is made with the lossy components of qubit circuits, and can measure the amount of loss in those circuits. These measurements lead to better circuits.

[mind_wander]

All that chemistry-talk - makes me dizzy *[smiley=faint.gif]
Makes me glad I got into something easy like IT *;D
Lol, well I am into Business, lack of Business INTJ's. Oh well, hey rare can't be any weirder. But, I do like Sci-fi stuff, does that count?

[INTroJect]

Wow People. I can feel the INTJ mentality in this room, strangely familiar to myself of all things. I have been searching around online because I connect myself a lot with being an INTJ, unfortunately I have never met a confirmed one. I can watch people and get pretty close to their type most of the time..suspected a few INTJs but can you believe there are INTJs out there who dont know about the MBTI or let alone that they are an INTJ? Shame.

The reason that I am searching around online is I am trying to find some answers for myself and some direction for my life. I kinda fell into this job working IT (and do actually like it sometimes) but I dont think being a business analyst is my "Road", so to speak. But it is just all a blur on what I want to do. Any of my fellow INTJ homies go through an extended period of indecision before chosing a career?

Im 26 and my career history is looking like a connect the dots puzzle. I am very INTJ and the inefficiency of it is prob what is concerning me. Everyone here sounds so set in their respective fields, is it a-typical amongst us to jump around into different fields? Any of you ever wonder what is on the other side of the fence?

Thanks

[Max T]

Im 26 and my career history is looking like a connect the dots puzzle. I am very INTJ and the inefficiency of it is prob what is concerning me. Everyone here sounds so set in their respective fields, is it a-typical amongst us to jump around into different fields? Any of you ever wonder what is on the other side of the fence?


I can empathise with you Lone INTJ- I jump in and out of different fields.
Get really hooked on one- read loads of stuff and practice it, then get a little bored and move on.

The subject matter isn't totally ditched- just distilled into a useful core and retained.
Could be a result of our 'knowldege-seeking' trait.
This site suggests that "once a subject is mastered, the NT is likely to move on."
http://borntoexplore.org/addcar~2.htm#NTs

Welcome, by the way. :thumbsup:

[Ijz]

Wow People. I can feel the INTJ mentality in this room, strangely familiar to myself of all things. I have been searching around online because I connect myself a lot with being an INTJ, unfortunately I have never met a confirmed one. I can watch people and get pretty close to their type most of the time..suspected a few INTJs but can you believe there are INTJs out there who dont know about the MBTI or let alone that they are an INTJ? Shame.

The reason that I am searching around online is I am trying to find some answers for myself and some direction for my life. I kinda fell into this job working IT (and do actually like it sometimes) but I dont think being a business analyst is my "Road", so to speak. But it is just all a blur on what I want to do. Any of my fellow INTJ homies go through an extended period of indecision before chosing a career?

Im 26 and my career history is looking like a connect the dots puzzle. I am very INTJ and the inefficiency of it is prob what is concerning me. Everyone here sounds so set in their respective fields, is it a-typical amongst us to jump around into different fields? Any of you ever wonder what is on the other side of the fence?

Thanks

Personally I knew very strongly what I wanted and that was the Computer Science road. Luckily my career has been an up going line every since I started. I only had 2 jobs but in both I got (=earned) a lot of freedom and I was able to thrive very well. After 5 years doing the first job I quit because I needed a new challenge. In my current (2nd) job I still have a lot of freedom and still get to write low-level C++ code. But more importantly I'm much more actively involved in the company-processes and strategic aspects. The bottom line is that I still get to exercise my previously obtained skills while learning all kinds of new things. These combined seem to satisfy both the INTJ and INTP in me.

But I have no idea what will happen after 5 years into my current job. I have no idea if I want to do this for the rest of my life and several times I have considered quiting and studying physics instead. But alas everytime something happened and the fun returned :)

As to what I personally prefer in a company:
- Small, non bureaucratic
- Freedom and room for creativity/innovation.
- Challenging.
- Being able to make a (substantial) contribution.